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I can't listen to the music? Since all this fiasco has blown up I have found I can't listen to his music
It happened after the 'diss' track - I just can't feel the same way about his stuff I genuinely hope it's temporary, but this time he has gone so far in showing his disregard and what appears to me at least, to be contempt for his fanbase that when I listen to him it just makes me feel like a patsy for continuing to support him all these years - even more so given I enjoyed the London aftershows so much I wish he would come out and explain himself in a clearly worded statement rather than the silence we have at the moment I am sure he believes himself to be in the right - at the moment though I just cannot see his point of view and more importantly cannot understand his methods Anyone else feeling the same? I have been a fan for some 30 years and knew he had little love for us , but this just seems a bridge too far.....  | |
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There is plenty of disregaurd going on in this site that goes far beyond what Prince has done....  PRINCE IS WATCHING U  " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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chillichocaholic said: There is plenty of disregaurd going on in this site that goes far beyond what Prince has done....
i agree that there appears to be a lot of angst - on both sides people on here cleim to be in some way associated to prince and are truly vitriolic in their denouncement of anyone who raises objection to how it has been handled other people claim to be 'in' with the site owners and state what has happened or been threatened but of course that is only one side of the matter from the 'outside' it feels like ordinary music lovers have been given no respect - but it may well be that only part of the story has been told It would be far better if Prince would set the record straight from his point of view, clearly and maturely - obviously no-one is forcing him to do so - no-one can - but I think that after supporting him for so long the fans at least deserve it even if they can't demand it in London he seemed very relaxed, happy and appreciative of his fans - especially at the aftershows - he played his guitar right there in front of me and others and we didnt grab or disrespect him - he just kept playing and we loved it - we appreciated his skill and energy and I thought he appreciated our response - non-prince fans with me were blown away - they are bemused now though all this just somehow doesn't square with where we all are now - surreal [Edited 11/15/07 1:42am] | |
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sorry you´re feeling that way
I don´t have that problem at all  | |
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even though I think what he´s doing is WRONG, of course
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garganta said: even though I think what he´s doing is WRONG, of course
[Edited 11/15/07 1:52am] Oh but of course  [Edited 11/15/07 1:59am] PRINCE IS WATCHING U " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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I think I'll remove him from my IPod until this shit is over, I find myself skipping everything of his that comes on    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: I think I'll remove him from my IPod until this shit is over, I find myself skipping everything of his that comes on
But then u"ll just have to put it back later  Is it really affecting u THAT much?PRINCE IS WATCHING U " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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chillichocaholic said: CalhounSq said: I think I'll remove him from my IPod until this shit is over, I find myself skipping everything of his that comes on
But then u"ll just have to put it back later Is it really affecting u THAT much?I have a lot of him on my IPod so his songs come up a lot  It'd be easy to put them back on, they're saved on ITunes regardless... It's not so much that I'm torn up over all this BUT I do find that I'm not wanting to hear him right now 
. [Edited 11/15/07 2:16am] I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: chillichocaholic said: But then u"ll just have to put it back later Is it really affecting u THAT much?I have a lot of him on my IPod so his songs come up a lot It'd be easy to put them back on, they're saved on ITunes regardless... It's not so much that I'm torn up over all this BUT I do find that I'm not wanting to hear him right now
. [Edited 11/15/07 2:16am]  PRINCE IS WATCHING U " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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chillichocaholic said: CalhounSq said: I have a lot of him on my IPod so his songs come up a lot It'd be easy to put them back on, they're saved on ITunes regardless... It's not so much that I'm torn up over all this BUT I do find that I'm not wanting to hear him right now
. [Edited 11/15/07 2:16am] exactly how i feel! | |
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yeah i cant do it either, ive been down with Prince since 1978 and its really killing me that when i listen or try to i get so turned off by it. | |
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small circles, big wheels!
I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious! |
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small circles, big wheels!
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The man vs. the music, and not suprisingly the music wins down.
The man has always been a Jackass, and removed from reality. For those of you who can't appreciate his music anymore I've no sympathy. You must've been very deluded in the 1st place.  small circles, big wheels!
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Rightly said: The man vs. the music, and not suprisingly the music wins down.
The man has always been a Jackass, and removed from reality. For those of you who can't appreciate his music anymore I've no sympathy. You must've been very deluded in the 1st place. hmmm in the past its usually been a case of many many mind changes - with fans just getting in the way of the man and his art - this at least on the face of it appears different at least to me , in the sense that it appears not to be linked to the 'art' at all but rather about money and power as I say - could be wrong and would welcome a statement clearing it up | |
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Everything has basically already been stated. The situation was about the images that were not approved to be circulated. And it's just coureous, to complain without coloring your grievances with insults. Remebering that we all start a brand new day, everyday. No one is chained to their past. There is no such thing as living your yesterday, or living your tomorrow. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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Everyone keeps saying that PFUnk is a diss towards fans and I just disagree with that. Is it directed at fans? Yes. Is it a diss? No. I see this as simply Prince saying to his fans, no matter what you think, no matter what you do, it's not going to bring him down, he's still going to bring the funk. It's like Prince used this song to get the point across that it's about the music, should be about the music, and that no matter how angry people get about the Cease and Desist letters, he's still going to put out the music. I've been trying to find the diss in the song, and I just don't see it. | |
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completely agree...just a funky jam with a big of a message to fans..the line about cancer and having poor isnt to slander fans, its just treating everyone as equal no matter what.
those who dont listen to him just cus of this fiasco are just plain weak. Wouldn't you love to love me? | |
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i felt exactly the same but realised i was just grieving as is everyone who feels this way
the process is first denial. then comes the anger. you will feel a bit depressed with it all , but then finally accept the situation. these emotions are felt with any loss... i couldnt listen 2 the musi. it felt so tainted. but the visual stuff helps. 'i still love u' thread was great coz when everyone was hating...u had a handful of orgers who were being so positive & clearly enjoying themselves & had managed 2 ignore all the crap that's going on. | |
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LoveRobot said: Since all this fiasco has blown up I have found I can't listen to his music
It happened after the 'diss' track - I just can't feel the same way about his stuff I genuinely hope it's temporary, but this time he has gone so far in showing his disregard and what appears to me at least, to be contempt for his fanbase that when I listen to him it just makes me feel like a patsy for continuing to support him all these years - even more so given I enjoyed the London aftershows so much I wish he would come out and explain himself in a clearly worded statement rather than the silence we have at the moment I am sure he believes himself to be in the right - at the moment though I just cannot see his point of view and more importantly cannot understand his methods Anyone else feeling the same? I have been a fan for some 30 years and knew he had little love for us , but this just seems a bridge too far..... Diddums.. What exactly has he done anyway?...taken a few pics and a few videos off the internet..why is that such a personal attack on you..if the music was so important and now its not because he has upset you in this tiny tiny way then I suggest you question your level of interest..seems to me people are more worried about not being able to come here and slag him off than to listen to the gems he has given us in the past! | |
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seriously, (and for once i am being serious) people grieve in their own way.
and i think for a lot of the former "fams", there is some serious grief going on. i mean, i can't imagine how it must feel because for me my love for Prince kinda got chipped away from me piece by piece over the years. it was a slow process. but for some of the fams, this thing hit them all at once. like they finally had the curtain lifted and realized that the great and powerful OZ was a fraud after all. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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lottielooloo1968 said: i felt exactly the same but realised i was just grieving as is everyone who feels this way
the process is first denial. then comes the anger. you will feel a bit depressed with it all , but then finally accept the situation. these emotions are felt with any loss... i couldnt listen 2 the musi. it felt so tainted. but the visual stuff helps. 'i still love u' thread was great coz when everyone was hating...u had a handful of orgers who were being so positive & clearly enjoying themselves & had managed 2 ignore all the crap that's going on. As a hospice social worker, I just want to clarify that the stages you listed are not the stages of grieving, but are rather the Stages of Grief as explained by Kubler Ross, to describe what an individual goes through during the dying and death experience. The actual stages of grieving are: Numbness (mechanical functioning and social insulation) Disorganization (intensely painful feelings of loss) Reorganization (re-entry into a more 'normal' social life.) Many people utilize Kubler-Ross's Stages of Grief as a model of Grieving for the loss of a loved one, but these were generated more to explain what a person goes through who is told they are dying. Also the stages aren't in order. Some people may first become angry, then depressed, then angry again, before experiencing denial. In working with patients that are dying (have 6 months or less to live), I've even seen patients achieve total acceptance of their prognosis before then going into denial. We're all different and we each grieve in our own way, depending upon our understanding of what is occurring and our beliefs of what should occur/will occur/might occur. | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: seriously, (and for once i am being serious) people grieve in their own way.
and i think for a lot of the former "fams", there is some serious grief going on. i mean, i can't imagine how it must feel because for me my love for Prince kinda got chipped away from me piece by piece over the years. it was a slow process. but for some of the fams, this thing hit them all at once. like they finally had the curtain lifted and realized that the great and powerful OZ was a fraud after all. Touche! Some of the fam sheep remind me of the followers in Life Of Brian, the ones convinced Brian he is the son of god..... BRIAN: Leave me alone! 1st FOLLOWER: Give us a sign! 2nd FOLLOWER: He has given us a sign! He has brought us to this place! BRIAN: I didn't bring you here! You just followed me! 1st FOLLOWER: Oh, it's still a good sign by any standard. 2nd FOLLOWER: Master! Your people have walked many miles to be with You! They are weary and have not eaten. BRIAN: It's not my fault they haven't eaten! 2nd FOLLOWER: There is no food in this high mountain! BRIAN: Well, what about the juniper bushes over there? FOLLOWERS: Hhhh! A miracle! A miracle! 1st FOLLOWER: He has made the bush fruitful by His words. YOUTH: They have brought forth juniper berries. BRIAN: Of course they've brought forth juniper berries! They're juniper bushes! What do you expect?! ELSIE: Show us another miracle! ARTHUR: Do not tempt Him, shallow ones! Is not the miracle of the juniper bushes enough?! FOLLOWERS: A miracle! He is the Messiah! BRIAN: I'm not the Messiah! ARTHUR: I say You are, Lord, and I should know. I've followed a few. FOLLOWERS: Hail Messiah! BRIAN: F**k off! [silence] ARTHUR: How shall we f**k off, O Lord? . [Edited 11/15/07 6:49am] . |
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SquirrelMeat said: ButterscotchPimp said: seriously, (and for once i am being serious) people grieve in their own way.
and i think for a lot of the former "fams", there is some serious grief going on. i mean, i can't imagine how it must feel because for me my love for Prince kinda got chipped away from me piece by piece over the years. it was a slow process. but for some of the fams, this thing hit them all at once. like they finally had the curtain lifted and realized that the great and powerful OZ was a fraud after all. Touche! Some of the fam sheep remind me of the followers in Life Of Brian, the ones convinced Brian he is the son of god..... BRIAN: Leave me alone! 1st FOLLOWER: Give us a sign! 2nd FOLLOWER: He has given us a sign! He has brought us to this place! BRIAN: I didn't bring you here! You just followed me! 1st FOLLOWER: Oh, it's still a good sign by any standard. 2nd FOLLOWER: Master! Your people have walked many miles to be with You! They are weary and have not eaten. BRIAN: It's not my fault they haven't eaten! 2nd FOLLOWER: There is no food in this high mountain! BRIAN: Well, what about the juniper bushes over there? FOLLOWERS: Hhhh! A miracle! A miracle! 1st FOLLOWER: He has made the bush fruitful by His words. YOUTH: They have brought forth juniper berries. BRIAN: Of course they've brought forth juniper berries! They're juniper bushes! What do you expect?! ELSIE: Show us another miracle! ARTHUR: Do not tempt Him, shallow ones! Is not the miracle of the juniper bushes enough?! FOLLOWERS: A miracle! He is the Messiah! BRIAN: I'm not the Messiah! ARTHUR: I say You are, Lord, and I should know. I've followed a few. FOLLOWERS: Hail Messiah! BRIAN: F**k off! [silence] ARTHUR: How shall we f**k off, O Lord? . [Edited 11/15/07 6:49am] LOL classic!!! http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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LittleRedCorvette said: lottielooloo1968 said: i felt exactly the same but realised i was just grieving as is everyone who feels this way
the process is first denial. then comes the anger. you will feel a bit depressed with it all , but then finally accept the situation. these emotions are felt with any loss... i couldnt listen 2 the musi. it felt so tainted. but the visual stuff helps. 'i still love u' thread was great coz when everyone was hating...u had a handful of orgers who were being so positive & clearly enjoying themselves & had managed 2 ignore all the crap that's going on. As a hospice social worker, I just want to clarify that the stages you listed are not the stages of grieving, but are rather the Stages of Grief as explained by Kubler Ross, to describe what an individual goes through during the dying and death experience. The actual stages of grieving are: Numbness (mechanical functioning and social insulation) Disorganization (intensely painful feelings of loss) Reorganization (re-entry into a more 'normal' social life.) Many people utilize Kubler-Ross's Stages of Grief as a model of Grieving for the loss of a loved one, but these were generated more to explain what a person goes through who is told they are dying. Also the stages aren't in order. Some people may first become angry, then depressed, then angry again, before experiencing denial. In working with patients that are dying (have 6 months or less to live), I've even seen patients achieve total acceptance of their prognosis before then going into denial. We're all different and we each grieve in our own way, depending upon our understanding of what is occurring and our beliefs of what should occur/will occur/might occur. as i stated the emotions will be felt with ANY loss. kubler ross model can be apllied 2 any loss, not just dying. & it's good tht people r able 2 talk about their grief on the org! | |
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lottielooloo1968 said: LittleRedCorvette said: As a hospice social worker, I just want to clarify that the stages you listed are not the stages of grieving, but are rather the Stages of Grief as explained by Kubler Ross, to describe what an individual goes through during the dying and death experience. The actual stages of grieving are: Numbness (mechanical functioning and social insulation) Disorganization (intensely painful feelings of loss) Reorganization (re-entry into a more 'normal' social life.) Many people utilize Kubler-Ross's Stages of Grief as a model of Grieving for the loss of a loved one, but these were generated more to explain what a person goes through who is told they are dying. Also the stages aren't in order. Some people may first become angry, then depressed, then angry again, before experiencing denial. In working with patients that are dying (have 6 months or less to live), I've even seen patients achieve total acceptance of their prognosis before then going into denial. We're all different and we each grieve in our own way, depending upon our understanding of what is occurring and our beliefs of what should occur/will occur/might occur. as i stated the emotions will be felt with ANY loss. kubler ross model can be apllied 2 any loss, not just dying. & it's good tht people r able 2 talk about their grief on the org! Can you tell me exactly what it is that you are grieving? And yes, while the stages of dying can be applied to other areas of trauma related to loss, the model itself was designed for dying individuals (not for those left behind). However, I would argue as well that many professionals do criticize this model as being too rigid, and as not really explaining the grieving process very well. Whereas the stages of grieving that I mentioned, typically does explain the grieving process in a much more succinct way and encompasses much more of what an individual who is grieving may experience. | |
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SquirrelMeat said: ARTHUR: I say You are, Lord, and I should know. I've followed a few.
Funniest film ever but you somehow missed out my favourite part of that scene:
FOLLOWERS: Hail Messiah! BRIAN: F**k off! [silence] ARTHUR: How shall we f**k off, O Lord? . [Edited 11/15/07 6:49am] BRIAN: I'm not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am not the Messiah, do you understand?! Honestly! GIRL: Only the true Messiah denies His divinity. BRIAN: What?! Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the Messiah! FOLLOWERS: He is! He is the Messiah! BRIAN: Now f**k off! As for the topic, Prince is a tit and has always seemed a bit of a tit to me. I've never been overly interested in the man, only the music. I think what is happening is over the top and uneccessary but it certainly hasn't had any effect upon my listening to his music and I love the new track. RIP | |
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TheEnglishGent said: SquirrelMeat said: ARTHUR: I say You are, Lord, and I should know. I've followed a few.
Funniest film ever but you somehow missed out my favourite part of that scene:
FOLLOWERS: Hail Messiah! BRIAN: F**k off! [silence] ARTHUR: How shall we f**k off, O Lord? . [Edited 11/15/07 6:49am] BRIAN: I'm not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am not the Messiah, do you understand?! Honestly! GIRL: Only the true Messiah denies His divinity. BRIAN: What?! Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the Messiah! FOLLOWERS: He is! He is the Messiah! BRIAN: Now f**k off! As for the topic, Prince is a tit and has always seemed a bit of a tit to me. I've never been overly interested in the man, only the music. I think what is happening is over the top and uneccessary but it certainly hasn't had any effect upon my listening to his music and I love the new track. Well, I had to pick the bits that were most applicable to the fams!
Now, dont get me started on picking the perfect scene for the differences in the fam/fam sites.....People's popular front....? . |
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