BlaqueKnight said: Here's how I feel:
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Prince will always be my first love, even if we don't fly on wings like a dove.....
he's my black brother, my private joy, my camille, my shockedelica.....what more could I ask for????? in an entertainer that is..... there's somethin bout cha love.....that makes me weak and knocks me off my feet..... THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]
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darrenj said: BlaqueKnight said: No speech, just an expression of opinion. It only sounds contrived to those who don't think outside of the symbol. When you are an independent thinker instead of a fanboy, it comes easy. You're all up and down this thread expressing your opinion and when someone says something to the contrary, your response is that the level of fan you are entitles you to more of an opinion? Not a very bright response. I "bothered" because I can. If that makes me "pathetic within myself" (whatever that's supposed to mean) then I'll take that label with pride. I'd rather be a pathetic independent thinker than an idolworshipper. lust and pieces. It just it hurts me someone calls me fam sheep, it' just not neccessary to stoop to calous insult's You have a lot spitefulness towards me. . I hope you get your issues within yourself sorted soon, So you may enjoy a happy and peaceful life. Love and peace. Prince loves you, as do I. Like i said, i respect your opinion, even if i don't agree with you. PFunk is a great tune. Look at how you are talking about Prince. You don't know if Prince loves him or not. You are talking about Prince as if he were Jesus. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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I can't help but wonder about the psychology behind all this. With the sue everyone phase, I am reminded of something he said at the Minneapolis Target Center concert, something about some random person in the audience being a bootlegger and Wendy said, 'He's not a bootlegger!' Here he is in front of his hometown crowd and that is his concern?
It must be a unhappy place to be in to be concerned about what is going on, on the net. I feel for him and hope he finds his balance. None of us here have any idea what it is like to be in the public eye. I remember the 'TruePrinceStories' guy saying that P. would receive lots of death threats each week. Paranoia seems like a common occurence in celebrityville. You want to the world to love you and want you but not too much. Apparently what Prince is saying is that it isn't enough for him to create music and put it out there for us. Man typing that sentence made me sad.... On the other side, he has been letting people up to dance for a while, the majority of people have been very cool (and the rest, you know who you are!) He invited people to Paisley Park. He has let people watch rehearsels and the aftershows, wow! I agree with Prince Fans United, when Prince talks about supporting indie artists like himself maybe he doesn't see how grassroot it can be. Ani Difranco comes to mind. However I do not agree with the 'we made you we can break you mentality'. How is that serving anyone well? Maybe Prince doesn't understand that the internet is this big free for all, what is he seriously going to do with some poor soul who got a tattoo of his symbol on their person? Maybe he can invite people onstage like always but offer a free laser tattoo removal? I appreciate all the humour people have brought to the situation. I just had surgery and I think I busted a suture when I read about P. rocking some Target pants. Didn't P. himself sing, "Stand Up! Organize!" ?? Love wins. (Seen on bumpersticker) | |
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Yay! .....Nay!
Hell, I really could care less about this mess. P just send some music or a concert my way. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Snap said: I came across this today from orgmaster, Ben, regarding the Uptown fiasco many years back. Still as relevant today...
Prince has one of the largest and strongest, if not the largest and strongest, long-lived online community and fanbase. He's asked us to help him numerous times since 1993: to be released from his contract; to support his non-WB experiment with Bellmark and TMBGITW; to spread the word about The New Master; to donate to his charity; to build several websites (L4OA, twice, and 1800NF) at no cost to him; to encourage record stores to stock his titles; to respect his wishes and call him 0(+> and not "Prince," and more. We have, in general, done all of these things dutifully, never asking for anything besides music in return. The music he claimed he wanted to give away; that he was dying to release but WB wouldn't let him. So we do all this for him, and what do we get? Not respect, not some leeway to use images on websites that give us pleasure (and give him something he desperately needs: relevancy), not even an influx of new music! We simply get cease-and-desist letters, lawsuits and heartache. This is unacceptable and shows just how little Prince thinks the fans matter to his business. [Edited 11/13/07 2:00am] Come on Be Fair! Prince is persuing legal recourse because he, his Music, his Art and Artistic Creations, are being abused. If people weren't contorting his physical image pixelly, or distorting his voice, or misquoting him, or doing any of the other abusive things; then Prince wouldn't be seeking legal recourse. Come on people it is common sense. Anyone would would seek legal protection if they were being abused and used! | |
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Prince does not deserve respect.
Prince is a man in a class by himself. Actually, he's part of the high class/high culture. You know the type... tons of money, power. He's in a class above 99% of us, that's for sure. In my view, the most disappointing aspect of Prince's recent tirade is that he's using his money to hire high priced lawyers to threaten his "everyday Joe" fans. Why treat his unofficial fan sites, comprised only of hardcore fans, the same as "The Pirate Bay," I'll never know. Also, Prince writes and sings songs about positivity, love for one another, corporate greed, disenfranchised people, human rights -- yet he pulls a card out of the corporate handbook by threatening consumers/fans with high priced, evil lawyers. To me, that's as low as you can go... it's one thing to be in the high class/elite class... congratulations. But to try and make life difficult for those below you, by threatening the working class, is taking things way too far. That's just how the world works, though. People in a higher social class use people in a lower social class. Ever see Eyes Wide Shut? It's about class structure. Check it out. I would have expected more from Prince, especially since his hardcore fanbase did a lot for him during the mid 90's, and also because Prince is a so-called "man of God." Why would a man of God use high priced lawyers and a Web Sheriff to threaten the working class? Prince is showing is true colors, finally. Thus, Prince does not deserve to be respected or admired anymore. He certainly does not deserve any more of our money. That's as clear as I can make it. I feel like a fool for supporting him for so long, sticking up for him when my friends thought his music was terrible, etc. People should have each other's backs instead of threatening with "lawyers." Too sad to be believed, really. [Edited 11/13/07 21:11pm] "Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?" | |
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lspear76 said: Prince does not deserve respect.
Prince is a man in a class by himself. Actually, he's part of the high class/high culture. You know the type... tons of money, power. He's in a class above 99% of us, that's for sure. In my view, the most disappointing aspect of Prince's recent tirade is that he's using his money to hire high priced lawyers to threaten his "everyday Joe" fans. Prince writes and sings songs about positivity, love for one another, corporate greed, disenfranchised people, human rights -- yet he pulls a card out of the corporate handbook by threatening consumers/fans with high priced, evil lawyers. To me, that's as low as you can go... it's one thing to be in the high class/elite class, but to try and make life difficult for those below you, by threatening the working class, is taking things way too far. Prince is showing is true colors, finally. Thus, Prince does not deserve to be respected or admired anymore. He certainly does not deserve any more of our money. | |
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wonder505 said: lspear76 said: Prince does not deserve respect.
Prince is a man in a class by himself. Actually, he's part of the high class/high culture. You know the type... tons of money, power. He's in a class above 99% of us, that's for sure. In my view, the most disappointing aspect of Prince's recent tirade is that he's using his money to hire high priced lawyers to threaten his "everyday Joe" fans. Prince writes and sings songs about positivity, love for one another, corporate greed, disenfranchised people, human rights -- yet he pulls a card out of the corporate handbook by threatening consumers/fans with high priced, evil lawyers. To me, that's as low as you can go... it's one thing to be in the high class/elite class, but to try and make life difficult for those below you, by threatening the working class, is taking things way too far. Prince is showing is true colors, finally. Thus, Prince does not deserve to be respected or admired anymore. He certainly does not deserve any more of our money. Double laugh.. .the author of that post seems like he is on a serious "hate' mission.. [Edited 11/13/07 21:31pm] | |
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2elijah said: wonder505 said: Double laugh.. .the author of this post is on a serious "hate' mission.. that's what i'm saying, his tired hate Prince campaign is so funny. i can't stop laughing. | |
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wonder505 said: 2elijah said: Double laugh.. .the author of this post is on a serious "hate' mission.. that's what i'm saying, his tired hate Prince campaign is so funny. i can't stop laughing. I know, dude is trippin'..I bet he's on a "stalker" list somewhere...but then again, I'm sure he'll accuse us of drinking the "Koolaid" .. [Edited 11/13/07 21:13pm] | |
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A hate mission? Yes, some of you guys drink way too much of the purple kool-aid. Most Prince fans I've met are very, very strange, and social outcasts. It doesn't surprise me that you take it so seriously and stick up for someone you don't even know (Prince). "Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?" | |
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lspear76 said: A hate mission? Yes, some of you guys drink way too much of the purple kool-aid. Most Prince fans I've met are very, very strange, and social outcasts. It doesn't surprise me that you take it so seriously and stick up for someone you don't even know (Prince).
Who is taking anything seriously? I'm laughing because you are funny. Furthermore why are you here? looks like the only outcast is you. Don't have nothing else better to do but spend time on the Internet bashing someone you don't know or respect. Who with a social life has time to do that? But I still respect your right to post, your post is just funny, that's all. [Edited 11/13/07 21:24pm] | |
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lspear76 said: A hate mission? Yes, some of you guys drink way too much of the purple kool-aid. Most Prince fans I've met are very, very strange, and social outcasts. It doesn't surprise me that you take it so seriously and stick up for someone you don't even know (Prince).
..Ok, so in other words, it's ok for you to complain about an artist you don't know, but not ok, for anyone else to criticize you on your opinion of him as though you know him? I found your post hilarious and similar to most of your posts, that's why I'm laughing. I thought the purpose of what's been going on regarding this site lately, was for people to be able to say what they wish with the freedom to criticize others. So it's not ok to criticize your comment unless we think like you, but you can criticize everyone else that doesn't agree with you? I get criticized, called koolaid drinker, sheep(baaa<-), etc., because I don't support the PFU, so what..no one was able to take anything away from me in the process of that, whether I agreed with them or not, but anyway, bud, post on you're making me laugh, I'm not mad at ya...seriously!... [Edited 11/14/07 11:56am] | |
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You are talking about Prince as if he were Jesus. Let's not get sacreligious by comparing an illegally online/offline invasive arrogant atheist hidden under the umbrella of an religion just for PR to Christ. . [Edited 11/13/07 22:42pm] | |
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ReginaCarman said: Snap said: I came across this today from orgmaster, Ben, regarding the Uptown fiasco many years back. Still as relevant today...
Prince has one of the largest and strongest, if not the largest and strongest, long-lived online community and fanbase. He's asked us to help him numerous times since 1993: to be released from his contract; to support his non-WB experiment with Bellmark and TMBGITW; to spread the word about The New Master; to donate to his charity; to build several websites (L4OA, twice, and 1800NF) at no cost to him; to encourage record stores to stock his titles; to respect his wishes and call him 0(+> and not "Prince," and more. We have, in general, done all of these things dutifully, never asking for anything besides music in return. The music he claimed he wanted to give away; that he was dying to release but WB wouldn't let him. So we do all this for him, and what do we get? Not respect, not some leeway to use images on websites that give us pleasure (and give him something he desperately needs: relevancy), not even an influx of new music! We simply get cease-and-desist letters, lawsuits and heartache. This is unacceptable and shows just how little Prince thinks the fans matter to his business. [Edited 11/13/07 2:00am] Come on Be Fair! Prince is persuing legal recourse because he, his Music, his Art and Artistic Creations, are being abused. If people weren't contorting his physical image pixelly, or distorting his voice, or misquoting him, or doing any of the other abusive things; then Prince wouldn't be seeking legal recourse. Come on people it is common sense. Anyone would would seek legal protection if they were being abused and used! Oh you come on! Please and come up for air every once in a while, I'd really hate to see you smother yourself like that! No one is abusing Prince or using Prince except Prince himself and I'm almost certain that no good Web Sheriff!! Prince himself makes fun of people...Ozzy Ozburn...hadn't the man just suffered a stroke when Prince came up with that little ditty? He's an entertainer, having his pictures played with and being misquoted comes with the territory, if he didn't like that he should have gotten his ass out of the business 25 years ago after the success of Purple Rain but he didn't! He kept coming back, begging for more! So to whine about it now is not only hypocritical, it's beyond reprehensible because he waits until it's time for him to retire to try this shit! None of what's going on is new and it didn't just start at this stage in his career, so why wait so long if it offended him? [Edited 11/14/07 2:54am] | |
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MsLegs said: You are talking about Prince as if he were Jesus. Let's not get sacreligious by comparing an illegally online/offline invasive arrogant atheist hidden under the umbrella of an religion just for PR to Christ. . [Edited 11/13/07 22:42pm] When I read that "Prince loves you, as do I" line, I couldn't help but be reminded of some of those fake "church on Sunday, hell on Monday" type people who love to throw around the phrase "Jesus loves you and so do I" when they are in an arguement. Considering that Prince has gone around for years talking shit like "Love 4 One Another" and even later becoming so obsessed with his religion to the point of preaching, it kind of gives me the impression that he wants his fans to think he is the authority on religion and who his fans should turn to for spiritual guidance. He really comes across having a superior attitude like "my religion is right and your's is wrong". However, his actions don't live up to his wannabe religious superiority. The way he acts like he's our spiritual guidance conselor, you would think he was Jesus or something. That's why it really tripped me out when that fan said "Prince loves you". Hell, we don't know what Prince loves. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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It feels like things are cooling down around here.
That's really good to hear. Things were getting ugly for a while. I feel I can breathe a bit better here. So I say Yay to that I've been keeping up the supporting the music, but going through my albums from newest to oldest is a strange feeling. Been spending so much time in the present with Planet Earth and 3121, seeing him get younger every day. Makes me kinda appreciate what he's like now. The quality of the music is very different and I actually am starting to prefer the older vibe of his recent work. But when I get to the really good albums, I might change my mind again. had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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ReginaCarman said: Come on Be Fair! Prince is persuing legal recourse because he, his Music, his Art and Artistic Creations, are being abused. If people weren't contorting his physical image pixelly, or distorting his voice, or misquoting him, or doing any of the other abusive things; then Prince wouldn't be seeking legal recourse. Come on people it is common sense. Anyone would would seek legal protection if they were being abused and used! Many celebrities simply aren't that HYPERSENSITIVE. They know people are going to poke fun at them, create animations about them, dance to their music on youtube and so on. That comes with being in the public eye and as a public figure, you relinquish part of that in exchange for stardom. That is part of why Fair Use laws exist - to protect the FREEDOM other people have to do so. There is a vast difference between copying his music and selling it to others and creating a caricature or parodying him. One is illegal, the other falls under fair use. He's trying to challenge the fair use laws and he will fail. Its as simple as that. Its not about "his" freedom but others' as well. He's not the only person in the U.S., you know? Most people just write stuff like that off because most people are adults. When a person takes a picture of you, its THEIR ART, not yours. Did you know that. Photographers are protected by law, too and have been long before there was a Prince in the music industry. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: ReginaCarman said: Come on Be Fair! Prince is persuing legal recourse because he, his Music, his Art and Artistic Creations, are being abused. If people weren't contorting his physical image pixelly, or distorting his voice, or misquoting him, or doing any of the other abusive things; then Prince wouldn't be seeking legal recourse. Come on people it is common sense. Anyone would would seek legal protection if they were being abused and used! Many celebrities simply aren't that HYPERSENSITIVE. They know people are going to poke fun at them, create animations about them, dance to their music on youtube and so on. That comes with being in the public eye and as a public figure, you relinquish part of that in exchange for stardom. That is part of why Fair Use laws exist - to protect the FREEDOM other people have to do so. There is a vast difference between copying his music and selling it to others and creating a caricature or parodying him. One is illegal, the other falls under fair use. He's trying to challenge the fair use laws and he will fail. Its as simple as that. Its not about "his" freedom but others' as well. He's not the only person in the U.S., you know? Most people just write stuff like that off because most people are adults. When a person takes a picture of you, its THEIR ART, not yours. Did you know that. Photographers are protected by law, too and have been long before there was a Prince in the music industry. | |
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MsLegs said: BlaqueKnight said: I'd rather be a pathetic independent thinker than an idolworshipper. [/b][/color]
Valid point. Paid Asskissers/Spindoctors @ the Org gets no respect. i am really sick a yalls foolishness...there yall go, on and on like he is really listening.....what to become of your 50.00 you spent on tickets, music, whatever...this is all a dream.... I'm still needing my disability check int he mail....still gotta go hunt for jobs and the fattted calf....come one come all to christopher tracy;s parade. [Edited 11/14/07 17:19pm] THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]
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SexyBeautifulOne said: ReginaCarman said: Come on Be Fair! Prince is persuing legal recourse because he, his Music, his Art and Artistic Creations, are being abused. If people weren't contorting his physical image pixelly, or distorting his voice, or misquoting him, or doing any of the other abusive things; then Prince wouldn't be seeking legal recourse. Come on people it is common sense. Anyone would would seek legal protection if they were being abused and used! Oh you come on! Please and come up for air every once in a while, I'd really hate to see you smother yourself like that! No one is abusing Prince or using Prince except Prince himself and I'm almost certain that no good Web Sheriff!! Prince himself makes fun of people...Ozzy Ozburn...hadn't the man just suffered a stroke when Prince came up with that little ditty? He's an entertainer, having his pictures played with and being misquoted comes with the territory, if he didn't like that he should have gotten his ass out of the business 25 years ago after the success of Purple Rain but he didn't! He kept coming back, begging for more! So to whine about it now is not only hypocritical, it's beyond reprehensible because he waits until it's time for him to retire to try this shit! None of what's going on is new and it didn't just start at this stage in his career, so why wait so long if it offended him? [Edited 11/14/07 2:54am] I forgot about that, so it's a case of get out of the kitchen if you can't stand the heat. FUCK HIM. Like I said...hypocrite. | |
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i am really sick a yalls foolishness...there yall go, on and on like he is really listening.....what to become of your 50.00 you spent on tickets, music, whatever...this is all a dream....
I'm still needing my disability check int he mail....still gotta go hunt for jobs and the fattted calf....come one come all to christopher tracy;s parade. For Now worry about checking yourself into a hospice & remember how to spell. Then, Buy yourself a plot ,casket and fall into a hole at the cementary bitter heeled one. Sorry, you can't make me be your paid asskisser/spindoctors, I refuse to stoop that low. "See you at the crossroads." [Edited 11/15/07 7:27am] | |
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Don't sleep 'til the sunrise, listen 2 the falling rain
Don't worry 'bout tomorrow, don't worry 'bout your pain Don't cry unless you're happy, don't smile unless you're blue Never let that lonely monster take control of U Be glad that U r free Free 2 change your mind Free 2 go most anywhere, anytime Be glad that U r free There's many a man who's not Be glad 4 what U had baby, what you've got Be glad 4 what you've got I know (my?) heart is beating, my drummer tells me so If U take your life 4 granted, your beating heart will go So don't sleep until you're guilty, 'cuz sinners all r we There's others doing far worse than us, so be glad that U r free Be glad that U r free Free 2 change your mind Free 2 go most anywhere, anytime Be glad that U r free There's many a man who's not Be glad 4 what U had baby, what you've got Be glad 4 what you've got Soldiers are a marching, they're writing brand new laws Will we all fight together 4 the most important cause? Will we all fight 4 the right 2 be free? Free (Be glad that U r free) Free 2 change my mind (Free 2 change your mind) Free 2 go most anywhere, anytime (Free 2 go most anywhere,anytime) I'm just glad, I'm just glad I'm free, yeah (Be glad that U r free) There's many a man who's not (There's many a man who's not) Glad 4 what I had baby, (Be glad 4 what U had and) Glad 4 what I got, oh yeah (for what you've got) Oh I'm just glad, I'm just glad I'm free,yeah (Be glad that U r free) Free 2 change my mind (Free 2 change your mind) Free 2 go most anywhere, anytime (Free 2 go most anywhere,anytime) (Be glad that U r free) (There's many a man who's not) I'm so... (Be glad 4 what U had and for) (what you've got) | |
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Those are amazing lyrics.
Thanks for reminding me. [Edited 11/15/07 6:57am] | |
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I don't want Ben, prince.org or the other web sites sued over this... Prince ain't worth it. Think it's time for all these sites to say fuck it and shut down... not worth the time or effort. | |
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ZFunc said: lottielooloo1968 said: prince has got a lot more sucking up 2 do.
a mature apology/response would b the decent thing 2 do. PFUnk - seems as tho he's making light of it all... not really good enough he doesn't need to suck up to any one. in fact, he's shown prince.org who's in control of his image and art, and it surely is not the moderators, otherwise images, etc would still be there. For what should he apologise? ...not spoiling certain individuals who exhibit behaviour of brats when they cannot do what they want in any manner they want? or, for not allowing his image on a site where he is slandered because of protecting that which is rightfully his? if what ur saying is true, then why is ur avatar a picture of prince then? if prince org were 2 take down every single picture down, then ur avatar would not xist now would it? man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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sosgemini said: Jeffiner said: Neither have I!! oh...then you havent seen any of my reports on his concerts....nor my views on The Truth album or my opinion on the snippet from his new video. Just because you don't notice all of my comment's doesn't mean that i am always negative...furthermore, am i not entitled to my own opinion? why turn this into a personal thing between you and i when all it is is folks sharing their opinion on art. oh...cause prince doesn't want that...oh yeah, i forgot. there can never b any negativity about prince ever god 4bid that u state that ur sick and tired of hearing purple rain live when u would rather hear songs like joint 2 joint instead. or that u have an opinion 2 this whole matter that goes against those that worship him down 2 his toe nails. PFUnk is a funky track no doubt, but still it doesn't overshadow the issue at hand..his control issues that have plagued him since he began his career. music is seperate from the individual that produces it. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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ReginaCarman said: Snap said: I came across this today from orgmaster, Ben, regarding the Uptown fiasco many years back. Still as relevant today...
Prince has one of the largest and strongest, if not the largest and strongest, long-lived online community and fanbase. He's asked us to help him numerous times since 1993: to be released from his contract; to support his non-WB experiment with Bellmark and TMBGITW; to spread the word about The New Master; to donate to his charity; to build several websites (L4OA, twice, and 1800NF) at no cost to him; to encourage record stores to stock his titles; to respect his wishes and call him 0(+> and not "Prince," and more. We have, in general, done all of these things dutifully, never asking for anything besides music in return. The music he claimed he wanted to give away; that he was dying to release but WB wouldn't let him. So we do all this for him, and what do we get? Not respect, not some leeway to use images on websites that give us pleasure (and give him something he desperately needs: relevancy), not even an influx of new music! We simply get cease-and-desist letters, lawsuits and heartache. This is unacceptable and shows just how little Prince thinks the fans matter to his business. [Edited 11/13/07 2:00am] Come on Be Fair! Prince is persuing legal recourse because he, his Music, his Art and Artistic Creations, are being abused. If people weren't contorting his physical image pixelly, or distorting his voice, or misquoting him, or doing any of the other abusive things; then Prince wouldn't be seeking legal recourse. Come on people it is common sense. Anyone would would seek legal protection if they were being abused and used! if this was true, then the likes of david letterman, jay leno and the daily show would b off the air in a heartbeat. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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