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Reply #270 posted 10/29/07 11:54am

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usernamealreadyinuse said:

Just a shame Prince's religious/political views (?) are stopping him from dancing in videos - as it would be nice to see him move in a video.


more like his hip surgery. lol

he still dances...just not as much.
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Reply #271 posted 10/29/07 12:15pm

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2elijah said:

jdcxc said:



And when were models ever "role models"?


Actually, back in the day, the "Barbie doll" was used as a role model for a lot of young girls desiring to get into the modeling industry and also the desire to have a body like real-life very thin-shaped models. To young females, "Barbie" reflected the ideal of what "beauty and the shape of a woman should be like" at least that's the false image the modeling industry projected to these girls. Unfortunately, that led to many young females desiring for that "very thin" look, and that desire/pressure did lead and still leads to a high increase in anoxeria/bulemia/addiction to diet pills/other drugs to stay thin, etc., among young females and models. Young girls see those images in magazines everyday, basically telling them "this is what you should look like."

Since then, they changed the look of Barb a bit, not much, but better than years ago, and there's also been some pressure for models to go from bone thin to look more "female" instead of an underdeveloped young boy's body. But the desire for that "very thin look like a model" or seeing a model as a "role model" still has an effect on many young girls/women today trying to get into the modeling industry or basically just desiring to look and be shaped like what the modeling industry says the "ideal female" should look like..but Barbie's boyfriend, the "Ken doll" pretty much kept low-keyed in all this..'cuz no one ever complained about his looks or bodyweight..lol what can I say..it's still a man's world in the modeling industry which seems to dictate what the ideal female should look like...and that's just my take on it.

I still love the video though and the message the song transcends.
[Edited 10/28/07 18:49pm]

Excellent read
Always loved the song and the video tops it off nicely
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Reply #272 posted 10/29/07 12:17pm

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Nice Video Promo Prince! Ok, it's not your best but who cares? It should get air play because the music is great and the women are CrazySexyCool razz

..thanks again mate for coming to London!
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Reply #273 posted 10/29/07 12:23pm

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lspear76 said:

I think this is almost Prince's worst video ever -- even worse than those cheapo in house Paisley Park videos from the mid 90s where they just added fake sand and water to the same set... this band is just so atrocious... it's like the bizarro NPG. Get rid of Shelby and Marva, focus more on the real musicians like Renato. Get a decent drummer. And make some real rock and roll for once. Prince looks old and tired. This video is a piece of total a$$. Fail.
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Reply #274 posted 10/29/07 12:25pm

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anon said:

lspear76 said:

I think this is almost Prince's worst video ever -- even worse than those cheapo in house Paisley Park videos from the mid 90s where they just added fake sand and water to the same set... this band is just so atrocious... it's like the bizarro NPG. Get rid of Shelby and Marva, focus more on the real musicians like Renato. Get a decent drummer. And make some real rock and roll for once. Prince looks old and tired. This video is a piece of total a$$. Fail.
[Edited 10/28/07 21:07pm]
No. The band actually looks good. Someone mentioned that the fro shot is the best. I say second best, but it's up there. These guys are not the weak link here.

EXACTLY lol
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Reply #275 posted 10/29/07 12:39pm

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pennylover said:

lspear76 said:

I think this is almost Prince's worst video ever -- even worse than those cheapo in house Paisley Park videos from the mid 90s where they just added fake sand and water to the same set... this band is just so atrocious... it's like the bizarro NPG. Get rid of Shelby and Marva, focus more on the real musicians like Renato. Get a decent drummer. And make some real rock and roll for once. Prince looks old and tired. This video is a piece of total a$$. Fail.
[Edited 10/28/07 21:07pm]

Are u finished now neutral


wow...that was rude.
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Reply #276 posted 10/29/07 12:57pm

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gawd if it wasnt for Shelby that vid would be just terrible. it still is but its tolerable because of her
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Reply #277 posted 10/29/07 1:00pm

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gawd if it wasnt for Shelby that vid would be just terrible. it still is but its tolerable because of her


I agree. She's the most interesting thing in the video.
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Reply #278 posted 10/29/07 1:02pm

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Video is ok, I was wondering if Prince was ever gonna stand up in it.




Well the concept was that he was at a fashion show and the announcer
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Reply #279 posted 10/29/07 1:05pm

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Well... nice to see a new video. I'm not the only one who was waiting for an entire new site indeed.

So the lead singer is Shelby, isn't it ? About Chelsea here

Shelby is cool, beautiful, too bad we don't better see the whole band, they all are so... elegant, disco...

Twinz ... are twinz.

And Prince just stand to say 'hey, I might play guitar'... I guess there will be many comments about the fact he doesn't dance.

To sum up : excellent song & band, very average video, but not a bad one !

(just my own opinion of course)

(did I read there's a video for somewhere here on earth ? Where ?)
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[Edited 10/28/07 4:21am]

YEAH I WANTED HIM TO BREAK IT DOWN. THE MUSIC WAS RIGHT FOR IT BUT HE JUST DIDN'T sad bawl I DID SEE HIS FOOT MOVE A LITTLE THOUGH smile
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Reply #280 posted 10/29/07 1:15pm

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mad THE ONLY THING HONESTLY prince ABOUT YOUR VIDEO THAT IS BAD IS THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE YOU. WE WHO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH YOU KNOW WHO CHELSEA IS, SHELBY, GREAT TALENT, BUT AGAIN NOT YOU. SO WHILE EVERY ON IS GRIPPING ABOUT THE VIDEO, I JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ONE OUT!!!!SORRY IF THAT STEPPED ON ANYONES STILETTOS BUT I HAD TO GET THAT OFF MY CHEST.... cool
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Reply #281 posted 10/29/07 1:22pm

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I'm like...so what!


The twinz just suck. Chelsea....ok....go make some t-shrits...please.


I would have been happy with just the band and Shelby. confused


who is the chick in the fro...she was the coolest person in the entire video.
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Reply #282 posted 10/29/07 2:00pm

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RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #283 posted 10/29/07 2:21pm

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Rhondab said:

I'm like...so what!


The twinz just suck. Chelsea....ok....go make some t-shrits...please.


I would have been happy with just the band and Shelby. confused


who is the chick in the fro...she was the coolest person in the entire video.


People are saying that it's Marva.
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Reply #284 posted 10/29/07 2:21pm

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lol
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Reply #285 posted 10/29/07 2:23pm

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Rhondab said:

I'm like...so what!


The twinz just suck. Chelsea....ok....go make some t-shrits...please.


I would have been happy with just the band and Shelby. confused


who is the chick in the fro...she was the coolest person in the entire video.


I'm sayin! That's Marva King. I'm in love with her afro. fro I want one...too bad I have white girl hair. lol
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Reply #286 posted 10/29/07 2:37pm

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This video only shows extracts from the fashion show. Prince was sat next to Trudie Styler during the real show, there are a couple of frames of them together but the rest of it, him sitting next to CR has all been shot seperately. It's all pieced together so you don't get any real feel of what it was like when he really got up and sang. In no press reports did they mention CR and I doubt she was there at all. The most representative shots of that show are when you hear and see the genuine applause when he is on his feet and I think he got up almost immediately, not like the video when he is sat singing for ages. Don't think he sat back down again either as he played a couple of numbers and reports indicated he left. Just a thought.
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Reply #287 posted 10/29/07 2:59pm

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so did marva tour with prince during the Jame of the Year tour?
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Reply #288 posted 10/29/07 3:08pm

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mplsmike said:

thekidsgirl said:

My initial reation was the same as yours! lol
I'm not feeling this as a Prince video for the song, but its a nice intro for
Chelsea's website


I bet nothing ever comes out of the sight
It was probably just to promote the video
I mean why open a retail for Chelsea, and not his own (3121.com)
hmmm unless they open both


Your probably right about nothing coming out of the site
...after all, I'm sure we can all recall the fate of Tamar's site neutral
If you will, so will I
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Reply #289 posted 10/29/07 3:28pm

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Could anyone explain to me exactly why you think the video stinks? I don't get it. shrug
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Reply #290 posted 10/29/07 3:28pm

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No wonder I cant find a Willy Wonka costume, Prince got the last one... mad
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Reply #291 posted 10/29/07 3:32pm

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lspear76 said:



Umm... maybe make beautiful music instead of just being a pawn of Prince like his current, wacko band? Grandma Shelby aka the replacement for Tamar. smile



You're talking song writing skills these two didn't do jack to enhanace the actual concert/video viewing experience. lol Hell, Wendy could barely stay on key while singing.

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I agree. I would never take away from W&L's songwriting talent, but as performers they are both beyond boring. There is nothing captivating about either of them on stage.

I am not feeling the CR video either, but it has nothing to do with this incessantly retreaded W&L as Prince saviors delusion that seems to always rear its head.

Also, to anyone who says Prince hasn't got it live... well, what can one say to something like that? Nevermind.
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Reply #292 posted 10/29/07 3:32pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

Could anyone explain to me exactly why you think the video stinks? I don't get it. shrug
It doesn't stink, but I think it's more annoying to people when they see something that comes really close to being good but misses the mark for dumb little things.
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Reply #293 posted 10/29/07 3:35pm

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anon said:

VenusBlingBling said:

Could anyone explain to me exactly why you think the video stinks? I don't get it. shrug
It doesn't stink, but I think it's more annoying to people when they see something that comes really close to being good but misses the mark for dumb little things.


excellent summation. The video sounds like a good idea on paper, but doesn't really come across.
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Reply #294 posted 10/29/07 3:48pm

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NDRU said:

anon said:

It doesn't stink, but I think it's more annoying to people when they see something that comes really close to being good but misses the mark for dumb little things.


excellent summation. The video sounds like a good idea on paper, but doesn't really come across.


And what are those things?
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Reply #295 posted 10/29/07 4:01pm

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Well.

Not sure I'm feelin' this one. Prince has got on too much pancake again and the hat and those bumblebee sunglasses. .disbelief And those who say Chelsea doesn't look like a model--I agree. She's pretty, but she's not really working that runway. The band looks awkward, except for Shelby and Marva, who give GREAT energy. The Twinz. . . well, I give them props for doing their thing on that skinny catwalk, but other than that. . .bored
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Reply #296 posted 10/29/07 4:06pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

NDRU said:



excellent summation. The video sounds like a good idea on paper, but doesn't really come across.


And what are those things?


The performance isn't exciting
it's not clear who Chelsea Rodgers is or why we should care about her
it's not clear in the video that it was a surprise performance--why is prince sitting in the audience?
why does he look so uninspired & unhappy

It's not the worst video ever, it's just not exciting, and the song is fun, the concept is fun.

But if you like it, it's just your word against mine, right?
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Reply #297 posted 10/29/07 4:11pm

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NDRU said:

VenusBlingBling said:



And what are those things?


The performance isn't exciting
it's not clear who Chelsea Rodgers is or why we should care about her
it's not clear in the video that it was a surprise performance--why is prince sitting in the audience?
why does he look so uninspired & unhappy

It's not the worst video ever, it's just not exciting, and the song is fun, the concept is fun.



But if you like it, it's just your word against mine, right?

Yeah different strokes for different folks. It's mostly fans who see this video anyways and it's just a video/taping... I understand, but as you said, I still like it and it's definitely not worse than any of the other vids that are being played on Mtv etc.
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Reply #298 posted 10/29/07 4:11pm

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Ya know... hmmm

It strikes me that the video is okay...it's just 20 years too late. This video would've been perfect for High Fashion -- not Chelsea Rodgers!
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Reply #299 posted 10/29/07 4:22pm

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sosgemini said:

folks, the actress (or whatever) portraying the character of Chelsea Rodgers just got engaged to a basketball player. there's a thread about it in the associated artist forum.



Prince is apparently an excellent basketball player, no? Heehee! Just kidding - haha! or maybe not!
...but you never know... wink
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