fluid said:

Another prejuduice view - why is it so unlikely that Prince would not try drugs? There is no logic in that viewpoint - in fact, it is more likely that someone like Prince would have tried drugs at some point, given the industry he has worked in for 30 years is one of the most renowned for drug-taking. And all drug-takers are "e-tards" (sic), are they? Name me a few and I'll name you a bucketload who aren't

And you are wrong about ecstasy - a strong enough does will provide mild hallucinations and, if you're having a hard time with it, these can intensify. Furthermore, unless you buy pure MDMA, an ecstasy pill is likely cut with other substances, most commonly speed, but also opiates or ketamine - both of which will provide hallucinations once taken.

Who's Susan Rogers, and what did she have to say?

Mindflux said:

No I can see Prince taking a few drugs but not as a fulltime drughead. Maybe cause he's a postar. He does try to play small venues and have an uncorporate sound but he's still right up there with The King Of Pop. Superstars like Michael,Janet,and even Madonna don't have that image for taking huge amounts of drugs.

Mindflux said:

No I can see Prince taking a few drugs but not as a fulltime drughead. Maybe cause he's a postar. He does try to play small venues and have an uncorporate sound but he's still right up there with The King Of Pop. Superstars like Michael,Janet,and even Madonna don't have that image for taking huge amounts of drugs.

So, Susan Rogers, Prince's-ex and Cat Glover, a colleague, both close associates of Prince around that time give similar accounts about what happened that night (a story which is coroborrated still further by other witnesses) and yet YOU doubt what they say? Why? And for what purpose would any of these people put forward such a convoluted story?

Have U ever been so lonely
That U felt like U were the
Only one in this world? (He has just split up with Susan and was very upset at the time - perhaps a reason he tried Ecstasy, to escape for a while)

You seem to be be implying that Prince and Susan Rogers had a romantic relatiuonship of some sort. Where is your evidence for this?
.

What a load of analytical bullshit. Only Prince knows what this song's about.

(He has just split up with Susan and was very upset at the time - perhaps a reason he tried Ecstasy, to escape for a while)

So, Susan Rogers, Prince's-ex and Cat Glover, a colleague.....

Susan Rogers in Per Nilsen's DMSR book:
"It was two in the morning and it(Paisley) was empty. It was dark except for a couple of red candles and I heard a woman's voice say 'Are you looking for Prince?' I found out later the woman was Ingrid Chavez. And I said 'Yes. I'm supposed to meet him here at 2.a.m'. She said 'Well, he's here somewhere'
As I came out of the room, I suddenly came face to face with him and I'm certain he was high. His pupils were rally dilated and he looked unlike I'd ever seen him look before. He looked like he was tripping. He was standing very close to me and he asked, 'I just want to know one thing. Do you still love me?'
And I said that I did and that I knew he loved me. He said. 'Will you stay?' And I said 'No. I won't. Goodnight'. I headed to the door. It was really scary"

Mindflux said:



There has been no indication that he was romantically involved with Susan Rogers.
She said that it was very strange that he asked her if she still loved him - as there had been no previous exchange of "I love you's" between them.
She - and Karen Krattinger who was also told by Prince that night that he loved her - was the collegues /employees, but close ones, who had daily contact with him.(Susan Rogers had quit her job in late october, because she felt he had become impossible to work with.)
Cat, on the other hand, was supposedly one of his girlfriends at the time.

Perhaps as NoveuDance says you mean Susannah?

Prince was reportedly still missing her (and Wendy & Lisa).
And as I previously mentioned this took place around the "one year anniversary" of their breakup.
I always wondered whether he called her and/ or W & L that night as well.

Other than that I agree with your interpretations

NME 1995:

What about drugs. Do you take drugs?

Prince: I'm interested in all experiences.

Can I take that as a yes?

Prince: I didn't say that. I don't think people are interested. I'm not interested if you take drugs.

But you're an icon..

Prince : I don't see myself as an icon. I don't see that. Do people care if I take drugs? People aren't interested in me. I didn't put myself on a pedestal. If I'm on a pedestal it's because other people have put me there.

Hardly the answer of someone who's TOTALLY anti-drugs

My source: Cat Glover

I filmed a behind the scenes video of her modeling shoot last year (the one many of you have seen on youtube), and spent a couple days hanging out with Cat Glover. She is very open and shared some amazing stories with me. This is one:

1987: Prince had never tried Ecstasy, and was curious about it after Cat told him what it felt like. He asked Cat to get him some (it came from her, where the common misconception is that it came from Ingrid). Cat was in LA when Prince made his request. She got some and flew in to MN and was staying at a hotel when Prince's limo showed up. While they were both in her room, Cat suggested Prince take half a dose "because he was so small". He took the full dose and told Cat to wait for him. He rode off in his limo and Cat didn't hear from him until much later.

Prince decided to go to a club while he was tripping. It was here that he met Ingrid Chavez, which eventually led them to Paisley Park. Cat said she didn't think Ingrid knew Prince was tripping on E. Prince called Cat later from the limo and told her about Ingrid. She was riding with him at that point, and the three of them went out to Paisley, making for a historical night in Prince's career.

Even more interesting is her source for where she got the Ecstasy in the first place: Anthony Kiedis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

(On a side note, I haven't talked about my experiences with Cat here mainly because of the way people were attacking her on this board after she reappeared. I was one of the many who wondered what had happened to her after all these years, and I just got lucky that I knew Richard Hallmark, who designed the clothes Cat was modeling. Cat is very aware of who she is and where she's been, and is just an amazing person to hang out with. She's extremely open, outgoing and intelligent. This story is just an example of what she's been carrying around with her these past 20 years. Cat, if you're reading this, please write a book!)

Here's another piece to this puzzle I've always found confusing: How is it that Prince dated Vanity while she was heavily into drugs? It's very hard to believe that he was oblivious to the situation. Given his controlling nature, how was this allowed into his life?

Mindflux said:

Of course not. I was simply agreeing with whoever noted that even in drug usage, Prince's height is an issue. To think there's no correlation between his extreme lack of height and his lack of weight is foolish.

Back onto the topic: Does anyone know, and forgive me if I've missed this information, when did he trip the purple light fantastic? Was it a week before the Black Album was due? A month? Four days?

He took a WHOLE one?

What a stud!

Here's another piece to this puzzle I've always found confusing: How is it that Prince dated Vanity while she was heavily into drugs? It's very hard to believe that he was oblivious to the situation. Given his controlling nature, how was this allowed into his life?

Wasn't there a quote from Mico Weaver concerning Prince using some kind of drug?

I'm in no way trying to insinuate that Prince was ever heavily into drugs, but it is clear that he was curious at various points in his career. The Ecstasy experience (maybe this should have been the alternate title to Lovesexy..I kid!) seems like an unusual starting point to someone to start to experiment. Prince makes a reference to smoking weed on "Now", with the "light us up and take a hit" line. Isn't he shown with a bong in the "Rock and Roll is Alive and it Lives in Minneapolis" video?

Ok, now to get obscure...there is unreleased audio circulating of Prince and a girl where he's interviewing her like they're on a radio show. I believe this is late 70's. Prince sounds either high or drunk (only my opinion) during the interview in his manner of speech and his giggling. Anyone else heard this? Opinions?

I just want to clarify something.
I didn't think of this myself while going through the whole thread. But I was talking to someone outside the boards about my latest album reviews and such and he said something about the story I didn't take into consideration.

So, I ask.

Did he write the album under the influence?
Or was he high on Squirrelmeat after he wrote the material and he had that epiphany a couple of days before releasing?

I'm sorry... since hearing that song, I @ the word "Squirrelmeat"... cuz it just sounds so funny.

Susan Rogers has gone on record talking about that evening in an interview and how scared she was of Prince.

If any of this is true, I might stop being a fan.

Jimi, on drugs, is one thing. Prince, on drugs, is another.

NightGod said:

I think I know which radio interview you're referring to. Don't know if Prince was high or drunk during the interview, but the girl in the interview got on my nerves.

If you listen to the black album it was obvious he was on esctacy while he made the album. Anyone who has tried it will know!!