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Thread started 08/20/07 11:02am

Riverpoet31

Anyone else agrees that the middle part of Planet Earth is the albums weak spot?

Personally i think Planet Earth loses momentum with the following songs: Future Baby Mama, Mr. Goodnight and All the midnights in the world.

Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight are dull, boring, calculated songs IMO. They sound as if they are recorded much earlier then the rest of the songs (mid-nineties), and if Prince just took them right out of the Vault.

Personally i like All the Midnights in the world, love the refreshing simpleness of it and it has a nice little melody. But placed right after Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight it weakens the middle part of Planet Earth IMO.

To resume:

The sequence of the first 4 songs works splendidly IMO, then you have the ´dip´ of the forementioned 3 songs, things get ´up´ again then with the catchy Chelsea Rodgers and the lovely Resolution (musically way underrated IMO, apart from the corny lyrics). Lion of Judah is a moody track, and not bad at all, But IMO he should have placed a more direct, anthemic song between Lion of Judah and Resolution (which i consider a nice closer).

What do you think?
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Reply #1 posted 08/20/07 11:28am

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I happen to enjoy Mr. Goodnight...it's a guilty pleasure! wink All the Midnights took me about three listens to appreciate; it isn't strong by any means but it is a nice little track. Future Baby Mama IMO is listenable, but sounds like a rehashed Emancipation track. Lion of Judah just plain IRKS me! It's got the "Chaos and Disorder" sound, without the accessibilty of the C&D songs. I can't get into it no matter how hard I try.

Overall, I agree with you. While these songs certainly aren't the throwaways that some make them out to be, they do make up the "weak spot" of the album. nod
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Reply #2 posted 08/20/07 11:48am

FunkyBrotha

his best album since the rainbow children..

i love every track...

i hated mr goodnight to begin with but now i get it and i love it

lion of judah is my favourite track.. and its one of my top 5 fav p songs after anna stesia joy in repetition and question of u
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Reply #3 posted 08/20/07 1:47pm

IstenSzek

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i thought you meant the middle part of the title song smile

because that is what ruined the album for me and what
makes it hard for me to listen to any of it as a whole
now.

i like the individual tracks but i just can't play the
album in sequence becaues i just have to skip the title
track since i can't stand it.

guitar is bland and repetitive upon further listening.

somewhere here on earth is cool enough but sounds too
much like an outtake from the One Nite Alone piano cd

the one u wanna c is still a nice catchy tune

future baby mama has some killer music and soundz on,
around and in it but the lyrics are alas pure shite.

mr goodnight, funny enough i kinda like smile

all the midnights in the world -best song on here imo

chelsea rodgers -most overrated prince tune ever ill

lion of judah is still very nice. bland, but nice, it's
2007's A Million Days. you will never adore it but you
will also never grow sick of it

resolution. still like it a lot. but loved it more when
it was a bit slower and called reflection smile


overall this album's weak spot lies between track 1 & 10

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Reply #4 posted 08/20/07 1:55pm

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naw it was ruined from 0:00:01 on the cd ...it let up during guitar and somewhere here on earth but then started back up 2 suck balls
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #5 posted 08/20/07 2:03pm

aymiderham

I know what you guys mean but I do love the lyrics to Mr Goodnight, they are criminal!
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Reply #6 posted 08/20/07 2:27pm

happyhappy

pro-future baby mama/mr. goodnight(anysong that helped me find peace aka raisenetts in life gets an A+ razz )
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Reply #7 posted 08/20/07 2:30pm

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My least favorite tracks are at either end.
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Reply #8 posted 08/20/07 2:32pm

Revolution

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Disagree...this CD is solid, throughout.

All The Midnights In The World is my second fav song on the CD...woot!
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Reply #9 posted 08/20/07 2:53pm

bungle

Riverpoet31 said:

Personally i think Planet Earth loses momentum with the following songs: Future Baby Mama, Mr. Goodnight and All the midnights in the world.

Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight are dull, boring, calculated songs IMO. They sound as if they are recorded much earlier then the rest of the songs (mid-nineties), and if Prince just took them right out of the Vault.

Personally i like All the Midnights in the world, love the refreshing simpleness of it and it has a nice little melody. But placed right after Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight it weakens the middle part of Planet Earth IMO.

To resume:

The sequence of the first 4 songs works splendidly IMO, then you have the ´dip´ of the forementioned 3 songs, things get ´up´ again then with the catchy Chelsea Rodgers and the lovely Resolution (musically way underrated IMO, apart from the corny lyrics). Lion of Judah is a moody track, and not bad at all, But IMO he should have placed a more direct, anthemic song between Lion of Judah and Resolution (which i consider a nice closer).

What do you think?

The middle of Planet Earth sounds like 'Could it be magic' to me! lol
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Reply #10 posted 08/20/07 4:39pm

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Revolution said:

Disagree...this CD is solid, throughout.

All The Midnights In The World is my second fav song on the CD...woot!

me too stop ur bitching everyone lol
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Reply #11 posted 08/20/07 6:18pm

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babooshleeky said:

Revolution said:

Disagree...this CD is solid, throughout.

All The Midnights In The World is my second fav song on the CD...woot!

me too stop ur bitching everyone lol


no no no! hmph!
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #12 posted 08/20/07 6:24pm

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Agreed about "Future Baby Mama" and "Mr. Goodnight". "Guitar" is down there too.
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Reply #13 posted 08/20/07 6:28pm

babooshleeky

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lock
[Edited 8/20/07 18:30pm]
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Reply #14 posted 08/20/07 6:29pm

babooshleeky

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L4OATheOriginal said:

babooshleeky said:


me too stop ur bitching everyone lol


no no no! hmph!

smile
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Reply #15 posted 08/20/07 8:30pm

Calligraphy

Riverpoet31 said:

Personally i think Planet Earth loses momentum with the following songs: Future Baby Mama, Mr. Goodnight and All the midnights in the world.

Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight are dull, boring, calculated songs IMO. They sound as if they are recorded much earlier then the rest of the songs (mid-nineties), and if Prince just took them right out of the Vault.

Personally i like All the Midnights in the world, love the refreshing simpleness of it and it has a nice little melody. But placed right after Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight it weakens the middle part of Planet Earth IMO.

To resume:

The sequence of the first 4 songs works splendidly IMO, then you have the ´dip´ of the forementioned 3 songs, things get ´up´ again then with the catchy Chelsea Rodgers and the lovely Resolution (musically way underrated IMO, apart from the corny lyrics). Lion of Judah is a moody track, and not bad at all, But IMO he should have placed a more direct, anthemic song between Lion of Judah and Resolution (which i consider a nice closer).

What do you think?


I agree with you. I skip those 3 tracks, every time I spin the disc.
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Reply #16 posted 08/20/07 8:54pm

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i like all of the songs, even the ones in the middle. but i do think the cohesion of the album falls apart when he gets into the contmporary (or even retro) r&b stuff in the middle.

it sort of loses sight of itself as a tight pop-rock album.


actually, this is the first time in a long time when i wish he'd put out a double album. or 2 separate ones. to me, all of the material on the album is strong, and he probably had some more strong material to add to it or padd out a second disc... 1 a pop/rock album and the 2nd a soul/r&b/funk album.

but then again, maybe he just happened to pick the 10 good songs this time and everything else was just dire.
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Reply #17 posted 08/21/07 3:28am

musicolog

IstenSzek said:

i thought you meant the middle part of the title song smile


...I also understood this way...

But I quite agree Future Baby Mama has not its place here. And mr Goodnight, well, could have followed "Space" or "Pussy Control" in this era...
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Reply #18 posted 08/21/07 3:32am

electrorock

true
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Reply #19 posted 08/21/07 3:56am

purplesweat

I'm sick of FBM and Mr Goodnight hate lockdance
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Reply #20 posted 08/21/07 3:57am

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Riverpoet31 said:

Personally i think Planet Earth loses momentum with the following songs: Future Baby Mama, Mr. Goodnight and All the midnights in the world.

Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight are dull, boring, calculated songs IMO. They sound as if they are recorded much earlier then the rest of the songs (mid-nineties), and if Prince just took them right out of the Vault.

Personally i like All the Midnights in the world, love the refreshing simpleness of it and it has a nice little melody. But placed right after Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight it weakens the middle part of Planet Earth IMO.

To resume:

The sequence of the first 4 songs works splendidly IMO, then you have the ´dip´ of the forementioned 3 songs, things get ´up´ again then with the catchy Chelsea Rodgers and the lovely Resolution (musically way underrated IMO, apart from the corny lyrics). Lion of Judah is a moody track, and not bad at all, But IMO he should have placed a more direct, anthemic song between Lion of Judah and Resolution (which i consider a nice closer).

What do you think?


Totally agree. The three middle tracks are b-side material. They interupt what could have been a stunning 10 track album.

Interestingly enough, more than half the casual fans I know who got the album free with the newspaper say pretty much the same thing.

They say they love the first 4 and then switch off. Unfortunately they don't switch back for for the last three tracks!
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Reply #21 posted 08/21/07 4:27am

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SquirrelMeat said:

Riverpoet31 said:

Personally i think Planet Earth loses momentum with the following songs: Future Baby Mama, Mr. Goodnight and All the midnights in the world.

Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight are dull, boring, calculated songs IMO. They sound as if they are recorded much earlier then the rest of the songs (mid-nineties), and if Prince just took them right out of the Vault.

Personally i like All the Midnights in the world, love the refreshing simpleness of it and it has a nice little melody. But placed right after Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight it weakens the middle part of Planet Earth IMO.

To resume:

The sequence of the first 4 songs works splendidly IMO, then you have the ´dip´ of the forementioned 3 songs, things get ´up´ again then with the catchy Chelsea Rodgers and the lovely Resolution (musically way underrated IMO, apart from the corny lyrics). Lion of Judah is a moody track, and not bad at all, But IMO he should have placed a more direct, anthemic song between Lion of Judah and Resolution (which i consider a nice closer).

What do you think?


Totally agree. The three middle tracks are b-side material. They interupt what could have been a stunning 10 track album.

Interestingly enough, more than half the casual fans I know who got the album free with the newspaper say pretty much the same thing.

They say they love the first 4 and then switch off. Unfortunately they don't switch back for for the last three tracks!

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i love fbm.....think it is a lovely r&b song....i agree about the next 2 tracks being the weak part of the album.....
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Reply #22 posted 08/21/07 4:30am

Tremolina

Agreed, excpet for All the midnights and Future baby momma. Those are fine songs. I think The one u wanna c and mr.goodnight weaken the album. They have catchy melodies but don't blend in with the rest and have terrible lyrics.
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Reply #23 posted 08/21/07 4:31am

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I like FBM, but together with Mr. Goodnight, they just ruin the flow of the album and sound like they were shoe-horned in to get some R&B radio airplay.
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Reply #24 posted 08/21/07 7:25am

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NouveauDance said:

I like FBM, but together with Mr. Goodnight, they just ruin the flow of the album and sound like they were shoe-horned in to get some R&B radio airplay.


I like Mr. Goodnight but loath FBM yet still agree.

FBM= For all those who complain about folks wanting a Purple Rain 2 - this regurgitated song is for you.
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Reply #25 posted 08/21/07 7:45am

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Cannot stand "Lion of Judah" and "Resolution" sounds very similar to it. For me, this album has 8 tracks.
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Reply #26 posted 08/21/07 7:52am

Empress

My least favorite song is "all the midnights in the world". Other than that, I think the rest of the cd is fairly solid. Not great, but not bad either.
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Reply #27 posted 08/21/07 7:53am

1sexymf

I love FBM and Mr. Goodnight. Besides Somewhere Here on Earth, those are two of the best tracks.

This album seems to be "safe." He doesn't do any of his trademark screams and it seems like he's sacred to sing. confused

PE is just Prince fucking around.
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Reply #28 posted 08/21/07 8:05am

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Spinlight said:

Cannot stand "Lion of Judah" and "Resolution" sounds very similar to it. For me, this album has 8 tracks.


cha know, i don't hate the two songs but they are kinda filler fodder to me. they are ruined by subpar backing vocals by the twinz and an overall laziness in the arrangements. the songs could be great but in their current mode they are incomplete thoughts at best.
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Reply #29 posted 08/21/07 8:22am

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babooshleeky said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



no no no! hmph!

smile


4 those attending multiple shows in london ..they can use their copies of PE as coasters now!!!
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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