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Do You Think That Prince is a Mere Observer or..... Do you think that he needed some guidance when it comes to musical development? | |
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happyhappy said: observer/absorber
Yeah, I sometimes feel the same way. But, the pride in me (I must admit and downright confess) wants to believe that there was/is more to it all. I mean, he didn't just pick up an instrument and play anything and everything that he might have heard up until the point when he was thirteen (Received first guitar from his father, "John L. Nelson"). He had to have some sort of convalescence running as an attached and given factor for the format of working those things out. Like, for example,he made it his business to play "EVERY" song from/by "Carlos Santana" in a replicated fashion/manner. And, I mean, "MASTER" that style of playing until he was just as good. Then, he wanted to give his little spicy tinge. You know what I am saying? From the sounds of friends, peers, and maybe even some family members (Through brief local interview fragmented segments), by sixteen, he was very well talented enough to be noticed in the mainstream, by some form and/or fashion. Strange, but seemingly true. Anybody else like to share their perspective on this subject? | |
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He's more of a sponge when it comes to music than spongebob squarepants. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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FarrahMoan said: happyhappy said: observer/absorber
Yeah, I sometimes feel the same way. But, the pride in me (I must admit and downright confess) wants to believe that there was/is more to it all. I mean, he didn't just pick up an instrument and play anything and everything that he might have heard up until the point when he was thirteen (Received first guitar from his father, "John L. Nelson"). He had to have some sort of convalescence running as an attached and given factor for the format of working those things out. Like, for example,he made it his business to play "EVERY" song from/by "Carlos Santana" in a replicated fashion/manner. And, I mean, "MASTER" that style of playing until he was just as good. Then, he wanted to give his little spicy tinge. You know what I am saying? From the sounds of friends, peers, and maybe even some family members (Through brief local interview fragmented segments), by sixteen, he was very well talented enough to be noticed in the mainstream, by some form and/or fashion. Strange, but seemingly true. Anybody else like to share their perspective on this subject? oh, well..a person needs influence. i thought you ment "does prince need help now to be sucessful" haha. I think it's like any artist with a gift. They study and study and study from what came before them, and then a real talent breaks through to peice together something new. Maybe he just wanted to master the rules before he could break them? | |
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happyhappy said: FarrahMoan said: Yeah, I sometimes feel the same way. But, the pride in me (I must admit and downright confess) wants to believe that there was/is more to it all. I mean, he didn't just pick up an instrument and play anything and everything that he might have heard up until the point when he was thirteen (Received first guitar from his father, "John L. Nelson"). He had to have some sort of convalescence running as an attached and given factor for the format of working those things out. Like, for example,he made it his business to play "EVERY" song from/by "Carlos Santana" in a replicated fashion/manner. And, I mean, "MASTER" that style of playing until he was just as good. Then, he wanted to give his little spicy tinge. You know what I am saying? From the sounds of friends, peers, and maybe even some family members (Through brief local interview fragmented segments), by sixteen, he was very well talented enough to be noticed in the mainstream, by some form and/or fashion. Strange, but seemingly true. Anybody else like to share their perspective on this subject? oh, well..a person needs influence. i thought you ment "does prince need help now to be sucessful" haha. I think it's like any artist with a gift. They study and study and study from what came before them, and then a real talent breaks through to peice together something new. Maybe he just wanted to master the rules before he could break them? I suppose that's a good way to look at things. I want to believe that I have a gift because, around the age of fifteen, I had realized that I had this ear for music (But, a hand/finger pair that is too dysfunctional for my liking). I would slowly learn different songs by ear, but I would "NEVER" practice everyday. Dexterously, I am below mediocre. I know this for sure, but it just keeps calling me. | |
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FarrahMoan said: happyhappy said: oh, well..a person needs influence. i thought you ment "does prince need help now to be sucessful" haha. I think it's like any artist with a gift. They study and study and study from what came before them, and then a real talent breaks through to peice together something new. Maybe he just wanted to master the rules before he could break them? I suppose that's a good way to look at things. I want to believe that I have a gift because, around the age of fifteen, I had realized that I had this ear for music (But, a hand/finger pair that is too dysfunctional for my liking). I would slowly learn different songs by ear, but I would "NEVER" practice everyday. Dexterously, I am below mediocre. I know this for sure, but it just keeps calling me. take a music theory class! it sounds like you might have a good theory workin mind (which are hard to come by). maybe that'll help and you'll become a good composer. practice is a good thing to accumulate, doesn't have to be to the extremes Prince takes it, but maybe try quirky exercises like themes in variations? they're fun. [Edited 8/12/07 16:21pm] | |
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happyhappy said: FarrahMoan said: I suppose that's a good way to look at things. I want to believe that I have a gift because, around the age of fifteen, I had realized that I had this ear for music (But, a hand/finger pair that is too dysfunctional for my liking). I would slowly learn different songs by ear, but I would "NEVER" practice everyday. Dexterously, I am below mediocre. I know this for sure, but it just keeps calling me. take a music theory class! it sounds like you might have a good theory workin mind (which are hard to come by). maybe that'll help and you'll become a good composer. practice is a good thing to accumulate, doesn't have to be to the extremes Prince takes it, but maybe try quirky exercises like themes in variations? they're fun. [Edited 8/12/07 16:21pm] Yeah? Thanks! But, let's not make this a thread about me. I don't want to hijack another one.  | |
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he needs a collaborator that is his musical/creative peer. someone on the level of Wendy & Lisa, Sheila E., Eric Leeds, Clare Fischer, even Levi Seacer, Jr.
he doesn't really tend to incorporate people into the band that he can actually vibe off of anymore. i think the closest we've gotten in the last 10 years is Blackwell. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Raze said: he needs a collaborator that is his musical/creative peer. someone on the level of Wendy & Lisa, Sheila E., Eric Leeds, Clare Fischer, even Levi Seacer, Jr.
he doesn't really tend to incorporate people into the band that he can actually vibe off of anymore. i think the closest we've gotten in the last 10 years is Blackwell. You wouldn't include "Rhonda"? I think she's an eccelent bass player. My favorite playing from her is on "Face Down", whenever it's played live. | |
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FarrahMoan said: Raze said: he needs a collaborator that is his musical/creative peer. someone on the level of Wendy & Lisa, Sheila E., Eric Leeds, Clare Fischer, even Levi Seacer, Jr.
he doesn't really tend to incorporate people into the band that he can actually vibe off of anymore. i think the closest we've gotten in the last 10 years is Blackwell. You wouldn't include "Rhonda"? I think she's an eccelent bass player. My favorite playing from her is on "Face Down", whenever it's played live. she's an excellent player, but i don't really feel like she's ever inspired him in the songwriting/recording process. "Dreamin' About U" aside. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Raze said: FarrahMoan said: You wouldn't include "Rhonda"? I think she's an eccelent bass player. My favorite playing from her is on "Face Down", whenever it's played live. she's an excellent player, but i don't really feel like she's ever inspired him in the songwriting/recording process. "Dreamin' About U" aside. I can see why you say that. Someone like "Sonny T", possibly "Levi Seacer" (That might just be my imagination), his parents, even peers of his like "Morris Day", and rivals like "Rick James". But, he would always seem to far surpass from an emulation standpoint where the talent was not only duplicated; but the obvious superior in the end. What kills me to no end is how this guy ("Prince") isn't an accessible person because if he was, then I would get a better understanding. This guy wouldn't have enough time to genuinely answer even one of out maybe fifteen questions of mine....well, with his reputation, anyway. That's my beef with it all. I want to hear about some struggle. I want to hear about some pain and annoyance. The same annoyance that I feel almost everytime I pick up the damn thing. But, by no means am I maniac. It would just be nice to have a look inside behind all of this perfected musicianship. But, stop before I continue to rant. What do some of you other guys have to say about this. huh? | |
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