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PrintableSpecialEd said: jimmypageisapedo said: BRILLIANT  Yep, American mouths drop to the floor whenever the truth is spelled out. You just don't get vehement opposition there, christianity is the default. Respect it or risk a whole lot of backlash, being made an outcast and prayed for.  There is some americans who feel the same way but like you said if they speak they'e made an outcast 'If god made us in his image....THEN GOD IS DUMB with a little ugly on the side'; Frank zappa You cant run a country By a book of religion Not by a heap Or a lump or a smidgeon Of foolish rules Of ancient date Designed to make You all feel great While you fold, spindle And mutilate Those unbelievers From a neighboring state; Dumb all over by FZ | |
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"Jesus was alright but his disciples are thick and ordinary"
John Lennon, 1966 | |
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excessex said: "Jesus was alright but his disciples are thick and ordinary"
John Lennon, 1966 The beatles are bigger and better than jesus! | |
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Flowerz said: somebody gave a review of Vegas.. and said while ppl waited in line for tickets, Prince came out passing out WatchTowers.. ok, well.. that's where the 'stop' sign goes up for me... the music is one thing.. JW beliefs i dont agree with..
This just got me thinking...when the JWs come to my door and try to give me their literature I say "no thanks"...now if Prince tried to hand me a Watchtower would I say the same thing? | |
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..meant to add this to last post...I'm not offended at all about the lyrics...yet...if he or any artist/ business is trying to push a product that offends me I just don't buy...years ago I was enjoying Hank Williams, Jr. when I heard the song If the South Would've Won...haven't bought or listened since... | |
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thepope2the9s said: anyone offended needs to get over it.
the man is singing what he believes skip the song or dont buy the record. many were offended when he sang songs like head/sister/darling nikki....back in the day. (Im sure those who are offended by his jw lyrics are not among them) Maybe it is time to look good and hard at your life If speach of GOD offends....you got issues, outside of any GOD or diety.... P dont give a shit anway.....he cant please em all..... His aim is 2 please the most high.... The Pope preach on!! That's the bottom line | |
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Personally i really dont get it, that when people are saying they feel offended by the JW references, some others people come up with earlier songs like The Cross and Anna Stesia, trying to prove he did write these kind of lyrics before.
Because its comparing apples to peers. On earlier songs like The Ladder, The Cross and Eye know, Prince was using aspects of christianity to portray his struggle with 'sins' and 'redemption'. 'bad' and 'good'. But he did it in a way 'spiritual' people and atheists at least could relate to. Those were more abstract lyrics that were generic enough to be 'felt' by a lot of people. On The Rainbow Children on the other hand, he is going a step further, using certain dogmatic rules from that 'religion' to express himselve. For me those lines are a step back in 'wisedom'. The banished ones? Okay Prince, fine with me, i am glad i dont belong to your little, smallminded cult. Muse to the Parahao? Prince, what are you doing? Placing men above women, you little kid. Family Name? Do you really think it makes sense to bring up 'slavery' again? and, whats with the nagging about people with jewish names? Not much wisedom there, just dogmatic smallmindness. For me thats in essence the difference: Prince using certain elements of christianity to express feelings everyone can relate too, and Prince using smallminded dogmatic lyrics to make a fool of himselve. | |
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syrinx7 said: Flowerz said: somebody gave a review of Vegas.. and said while ppl waited in line for tickets, Prince came out passing out WatchTowers.. ok, well.. that's where the 'stop' sign goes up for me... the music is one thing.. JW beliefs i dont agree with..
This just got me thinking...when the JWs come to my door and try to give me their literature I say "no thanks"...now if Prince tried to hand me a Watchtower would I say the same thing? If JW knock on my door there will be violence | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Personally i really dont get it, that when people are saying they feel offended by the JW references, some others people come up with earlier songs like The Cross and Anna Stesia, trying to prove he did write these kind of lyrics before.
Because its comparing apples to peers. On earlier songs like The Ladder, The Cross and Eye know, Prince was using aspects of christianity to portray his struggle with 'sins' and 'redemption'. 'bad' and 'good'. But he did it in a way 'spiritual' people and atheists at least could relate to. Those were more abstract lyrics that were generic enough to be 'felt' by a lot of people. On The Rainbow Children on the other hand, he is going a step further, using certain dogmatic rules from that 'religion' to express himselve. For me those lines are a step back in 'wisedom'. The banished ones? Okay Prince, fine with me, i am glad i dont belong to your little, smallminded cult. Muse to the Parahao? Prince, what are you doing? Placing men above women, you little kid. Family Name? Do you really think it makes sense to bring up 'slavery' again? and, whats with the nagging about people with jewish names? Not much wisedom there, just dogmatic smallmindness. For me thats in essence the difference: Prince using certain elements of christianity to express feelings everyone can relate too, and Prince using smallminded dogmatic lyrics to make a fool of himselve. You hit the nail on the head! Great post! | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Personally i really dont get it, that when people are saying they feel offended by the JW references, some others people come up with earlier songs like The Cross and Anna Stesia, trying to prove he did write these kind of lyrics before.
Because its comparing apples to peers. On earlier songs like The Ladder, The Cross and Eye know, Prince was using aspects of christianity to portray his struggle with 'sins' and 'redemption'. 'bad' and 'good'. But he did it in a way 'spiritual' people and atheists at least could relate to. Those were more abstract lyrics that were generic enough to be 'felt' by a lot of people. On The Rainbow Children on the other hand, he is going a step further, using certain dogmatic rules from that 'religion' to express himselve. For me those lines are a step back in 'wisedom'. The banished ones? Okay Prince, fine with me, i am glad i dont belong to your little, smallminded cult. Muse to the Parahao? Prince, what are you doing? Placing men above women, you little kid. Family Name? Do you really think it makes sense to bring up 'slavery' again? and, whats with the nagging about people with jewish names? Not much wisedom there, just dogmatic smallmindness. For me thats in essence the difference: Prince using certain elements of christianity to express feelings everyone can relate too, and Prince using smallminded dogmatic lyrics to make a fool of himselve. Agree with your general sentiments but surely Family Name was the song on TRC with little or no link to JW/biblical lyrics? Only the preacher line anyway. I don't wish to censor him in any way obviously but hearing the undertones of dogmatic preaching in otherwise decent songs like "The Word" etc does spoil the enjoyment IMO. A chorus about "getting saved"? Come on now. Glug, glug like a mug | |
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vinx98 said: Moonbeam said: Wow, you're really bitter. And the statements in bold are just as brow-beating as the statements you claim to have been subjected to. I guess I was a little bitter that day, Im much better now (its Friday  ).. If you look at the question, I wanted to make sure that I REALLY answered his question so that he was under no illusions where I stood ...It's all good. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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SpecialEd said: I don't wish to censor him in any way obviously but hearing the undertones of dogmatic preaching in otherwise decent songs like "The Word" etc does spoil the enjoyment IMO. A chorus about "getting saved"? Come on now. Totally agree. The JW influences creeping in to his lyrics that have gone so far as to dominate choruses is getting obnoxious. "The Word" is a particularly frustrating example - Wonderful musically, killer vocal delivery, and then nonsense about wicked ones, spiders, and getting saved. *shakes head* I've seen the future, and boy it's rough... | |
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syrinx7 said: Flowerz said: somebody gave a review of Vegas.. and said while ppl waited in line for tickets, Prince came out passing out WatchTowers.. ok, well.. that's where the 'stop' sign goes up for me... the music is one thing.. JW beliefs i dont agree with..
This just got me thinking...when the JWs come to my door and try to give me their literature I say "no thanks"...now if Prince tried to hand me a Watchtower would I say the same thing? i wouldnt b sending him away
his lyrics dont- and have never offended me im loving PE- so wot if it has a few religious overtones- the music is still good Prince has so many songs- if certain ones do offend, just dont play them [Edited 7/29/07 1:39am] seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before   | |
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