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PrintableAloisio said: If PE was realeased in 1988, everybody would use the word masterpiece and if Lovesexy was realeased in 2007, everybody would say: "yeah, a pretty good album, but in the 80's Prince was better"!
Now, there's this stereotype that Prince can't reach the 80's peak, but as for me is just a prejudice. And PE proves eye m right. That's blasphemous. 
Lovesexy is genius. Not because it came out in 1987. It's genius because I can put that record on right now, 20 years later, and still hear something new in all those layers. Lovesexy is genius because I can still ponder over the lyrics and the message and the metaphors or simply choose to enjoy it as a pop record. Planet Earth lacks all of the above, including the ability to enjoy it as just a pop record. What is creative about Planet Earth? What is special about it? It's a sad state of affairs when Justin Timberlake is making better and more interesting pop records than Prince. | |
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PapaSmurf said: Aloisio said: If PE was realeased in 1988, everybody would use the word masterpiece and if Lovesexy was realeased in 2007, everybody would say: "yeah, a pretty good album, but in the 80's Prince was better"!
Now, there's this stereotype that Prince can't reach the 80's peak, but as for me is just a prejudice. And PE proves eye m right. That's blasphemous.
Lovesexy is genius. Not because it came out in 1987. It's genius because I can put that record on right now, 20 years later, and still hear something new in all those layers. Lovesexy is genius because I can still ponder over the lyrics and the message and the metaphors or simply choose to enjoy it as a pop record. Planet Earth lacks all of the above, including the ability to enjoy it as just a pop record. What is creative about Planet Earth? What is special about it? It's a sad state of affairs when Justin Timberlake is making better and more interesting pop records than Prince. xactly 
and Prince being religious n all should be able to remember what Jesus said about talents -- don't bury 'em, use 'em! man put some effort into those early albums. what time is it??? do the Work 4 goodness sake [Edited 7/12/07 23:33pm] | |
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Snap said: PapaSmurf said: That's blasphemous.
Lovesexy is genius. Not because it came out in 1987. It's genius because I can put that record on right now, 20 years later, and still hear something new in all those layers. Lovesexy is genius because I can still ponder over the lyrics and the message and the metaphors or simply choose to enjoy it as a pop record. Planet Earth lacks all of the above, including the ability to enjoy it as just a pop record. What is creative about Planet Earth? What is special about it? It's a sad state of affairs when Justin Timberlake is making better and more interesting pop records than Prince. xactly
and Prince being religious n all should be able to remember what Jesus said about talents -- don't bury 'em, use 'em! man put some effort into those early albums. what time is it??? do the Work 4 goodness sake [Edited 7/12/07 23:33pm] Great point! Even Daniel, who didn't choose to be in his situation, consistently did the best because he knew he had to represent God. Prince chose this path and was blessed with success. He should be willing to do the work. | |
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PapaSmurf said: Snap said: xactly
and Prince being religious n all should be able to remember what Jesus said about talents -- don't bury 'em, use 'em! man put some effort into those early albums. what time is it??? do the Work 4 goodness sake [Edited 7/12/07 23:33pm] Great point! Even Daniel, who didn't choose to be in his situation, consistently did the best because he knew he had to represent God. Prince chose this path and was blessed with success. He should be willing to do the work. you guys are too much and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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IstenSzek said: PapaSmurf said: Great point! Even Daniel, who didn't choose to be in his situation, consistently did the best because he knew he had to represent God. Prince chose this path and was blessed with success. He should be willing to do the work. you guys are too much 
But fer reals...the new cd sucks like McCain's campaign co-chairman. | |
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PapaSmurf said: Aloisio said: If PE was realeased in 1988, everybody would use the word masterpiece and if Lovesexy was realeased in 2007, everybody would say: "yeah, a pretty good album, but in the 80's Prince was better"!
Now, there's this stereotype that Prince can't reach the 80's peak, but as for me is just a prejudice. And PE proves eye m right. That's blasphemous.
Lovesexy is genius. Not because it came out in 1987. It's genius because I can put that record on right now, 20 years later, and still hear something new in all those layers. Lovesexy is genius because I can still ponder over the lyrics and the message and the metaphors or simply choose to enjoy it as a pop record. Planet Earth lacks all of the above, including the ability to enjoy it as just a pop record. What is creative about Planet Earth? What is special about it? It's a sad state of affairs when Justin Timberlake is making better and more interesting pop records than Prince. Lovesexy was not viewed as genius in 1988 when it was released . It was laughed at because of the cover. It was not allowed in certain stores because of the cover. The critics said that Prince had started sounding dated. I did not really start listening to Lovesexy until I saw the concert in Nov 88, a full 7 months after the album was released. Lovesexy evolved into a Prince classic. It was not one in May 1988 when it was released. [Edited 7/13/07 10:36am] |
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For everybody who's reserved copies of MoS from their local newsagents, it's worth checking with them that they actually DID reserve them for you.
I just checked with my local Post Office (where I'd ordered 5 copies last Friday) and he searched through the pile and eventually found my pre-printed order form with an apologetic 'Oh sorry, I didn't see this'. He said he'd ring the wholesaler straight away to try and reserve the copies 
Typical! | |
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muleFunk said: PapaSmurf said: That's blasphemous.
Lovesexy is genius. Not because it came out in 1987. It's genius because I can put that record on right now, 20 years later, and still hear something new in all those layers. Lovesexy is genius because I can still ponder over the lyrics and the message and the metaphors or simply choose to enjoy it as a pop record. Planet Earth lacks all of the above, including the ability to enjoy it as just a pop record. What is creative about Planet Earth? What is special about it? It's a sad state of affairs when Justin Timberlake is making better and more interesting pop records than Prince. Lovesexy was not viewed as genius in 1988 when it was released . It was laughed at because of the cover. It was not allowed in certain stores because of the cover. The critics said that Prince had started sounding dated. I did not really start listening to Lovesexy until I saw the concert in Nov 88, a full 7 months after the album was released. Lovesexy evolved into a Prince classic. It was not one in May 1988 when it was released. [Edited 7/13/07 10:36am] It was an instant classic in parts of Europe. I still have the old SPEX review where they praised it as heavely, sheer genius. And SPEX is usually not that generous with positive reviews. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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Yeah the Europeans praised Lovesexy and they still do have more respect for him than people in America. I think that Americans are always trying to look for something new. |
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I usually just lurk around here but I happened to find Planet Earth in good sound quality I even burned it and played it in my car already to get a feel for the songs... 
PE...I really like this but its def different for an opening track Guitar...I love Prince and his Guitar....just all out fun crank it up in the car jam SHOE...yeah slow jam Prince...I am digging it....I think this would be awesome LIVE The One U Wanna C.....I still dont get the country thing that everyone is saying...catchy and poppy I loved it the first time I heard it on the radio... at first I was not even sure it was Prince...def got W&L on it FBM....weird title but I like this a lot too nice r&b jam Mr Goodnite....its not horrible but just seems out of place on this cd....but its kewl...I think its more spoken word than rapping though All the midnites....short but not too bad but another one that just not quite sure about yet Chelsea....FUNNNKY!! U can get ur dance on....but ur right why is Prince not singing lead....and who the hell is Chelsea anyway....I have seen pics of her....hmmm..Prince's daughter...u never know Lion of Judah....another weird title....but def got W&L all over it....I am digging the vocals on this and guitar Revelation/resolution.....i have seen track listings with both names so I am not sure which one is right....I like this one also.....its good to hear W&L again I think they def give a little something extra to P's music....
Why does this cd sound like Prince has been listening to a lot of Beatles songs lately?? | |
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blackbob said: when people say.....its not as good as the 80s or i am not feeling the new music....most of the time it has nothing to do with how good the music is or not....its about people wanting to feel young again....
to feel like they did when they were a kid listening to a prince album for the first time.....its their youth that they are missing... to feel how they used to feel when they listen to a certain artist that they link to their younger years..... thats why prince can never be today what he was in the 80s to most people because they are 25 years older and are different people to what they were back in the day... . i think prince is still making great music....i dont expect to be as excited listening to his new stuff as i did when i was 16 because he cant give me that back....i am 39 and i have a different outlook on life than i had then.... but i still enjoy his music and still crave new music from him and i think the new album is great..... i enjoy it for what it is ....music from a great middle aged artist to a long time fan in his late 30s who still marvels at his immense musicial talent. . enjoy the ride people...its got a long way to go..... Yes, I'd go along with this, it's an interesting point. As a 32 year old, although I'm mad about music, it doesn't do as much to me these days as it did when I was a teenager. There are very few new albums out these days that have this effect, so I can't see Prince being any different in this regard. I'm still looking forward to getting the album this Sunday but I'm sure it's not going to change my life. | |
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Aloisio said: If PE was realeased in 1988, everybody would use the word masterpiece
b.b..b.b.b.bBwahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHhahahahahahhah...ha...h...heh...oh wait, you're serious! Fucking hell, are you kidding? Please kids, just say no to drugs. Ya know, what this website has taught me is that being a Prince fan and having good taste in music are not necessarily connected.....and thats a valuable lesson. "Don't hate me cos I'm beautiful" | |
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One specific remark.
I have read a lot of people here being negative about the drum skills of Cora, but IMO she does a good job on Planet Earth. She seems able to adjust herselve to different styles of music, and i like the solid soberness of her drumming. No flashy, unnecessary 'decoration' like John Blackwell was often using, but more straight, on-spot drumming, like Michael Bland offered in the past. Michael Blands drumming did sound more impressive on first hearing, probably becuase Prince decided to give it a 'special treatment' in the mix, but without that, Cora is doing very fine on this album IMO. | |
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June7 said:  Those of you lucky enough to have received a copy already, whether you liked the disc or not, please list your views in a courteous manner. Please refrain from creating multiple threads on this topic. Please do not ask for bootlegs or any other means of copyright infringements. Please do not offer to burn copyrighted material for anyone. To do so will automatically earn you a ONE WEEK BAN (minimum), no questions asked. Period. You can click this ( http://www.prince.org/msg/7/233735 ) to review what was written in the past thread. Thank you, June7 When i actually get to play the Panet Earth CD in its entirity. Then i can make some poignant positive comments. People who start comparing these new songs to others Prince already has written are missing the musical art here. each song should be listened to for its own being. And thats all. Don't compare. No need. Regina Carma | |
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blackbob said: 3121.....8 lolita.....6 te amo cortazon.....7 black sweat.....6 incest and candles.....5 love.....8 satisfied.....6 fury.....7 the word.....7 b l and b.....5 the dance.....6 get on the boat.....5  Put yourself on the worldwide org map! www.frappr.com/princeorg |
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Riverpoet31 said: One specific remark.
I have read a lot of people here being negative about the drum skills of Cora, but IMO she does a good job on Planet Earth. She seems able to adjust herselve to different styles of music, and i like the solid soberness of her drumming. No flashy, unnecessary 'decoration' like John Blackwell was often using, but more straight, on-spot drumming, like Michael Bland offered in the past. Michael Blands drumming did sound more impressive on first hearing, probably becuase Prince decided to give it a 'special treatment' in the mix, but without that, Cora is doing very fine on this album IMO. i wonder if people still feel that way about the drumming now that they know it's probably michael b on a few tracks (the liner notes on the cd mention michael b and sonny t) i bet they'll be all like "oh it was the 96kbps rip, but the cd sounds really great, i love the drumming by michael b" and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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. [Edited 7/13/07 17:03pm] and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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Aloisio said: If PE was realeased in 1988, everybody would use the word masterpiece and if Lovesexy was realeased in 2007, everybody would say: "yeah, a pretty good album, but in the 80's Prince was better"!
Now, there's this stereotype that Prince can't reach the 80's peak, but as for me is just a prejudice. And PE proves eye m right. I'd agree with that - music is always very nostalgic, and we always tend to like the music we first listened to in our teens the most. Add to that that during the 80s Prince was not only ridiculously prolific, but the quality of a whole decades work was just so fantastic. In the end I didn't really get into Musicology too much, but thought 3121 was brilliant, and much more like the Prince I knew and loved. With all the the press he's getting over here in the UK just now, am really excited about the new album - although I've only really heard Guitar and The One U Wanna See - which is the best, catchiest romp of a pop song he's done in years. Bit weird that it sounds like REM, but absolutely love it. By the sounds of it, PE is less RnB, and more pop and guitar, with some great old sounding stuff (Chelsea Rogers) and Revolution sounding stuff with Wendy (Lion of Judah) - so sounds like an album covering a wider, and more poppy range this time out - can't wait to hear it properly. | |
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Did you notice that the credits don't credit Wendy or Lisa as vocalists? Yet some have said their vocal contributions to One U Wanna C, Lion Of Judah and Resolution are "unmistakable." hmmmmm
IstenSzek said: someone on housequake posted this, saying it's printed on the inside tray:
Special Thanx... Michael B. - drums Sonny T. - bass Wendy - acoustic guitar & mandolin Lisa - additional keys Christian Scott - trumpet Sheila E - percussion Marva King - vocals Bria Valente - vocals Recorded & mixed at Paisley Park, 3121 Las Vegas & Circle House Miami by Prince Assisted by Ian Boxhill & Kevin K.D. Davis Mastering at Oasis Los Angeles by Eddie Schreyer Package design by Sam Jennings Interactive design by Ashley Warren Photography by Afshin Shahidi & Randee St. Nicholas Holographic art by virtual images Join us online at 3121.com Much respect 2 AEG Produced, arranged, composed & per4med by Prince & The New power Generation Morris Hayes C.C. Dunham Joshua Shelby J. The Twinz Mike Phillips Maceo Parker Greg Boyer Lee Hogans Renato Neto 
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It's just o.k. - which, considering how feel about him as a musician, is a big disappointment. Most of my favorite songs of his had a sort of "muscularity" about them - they kind of hit you in the gut . "She's Always In My Hair," made me feel that way. Do you remember the first time you heard the opening guitar on "When Doves Cry ?" I had to stop what I was doing at the time. Everything that comes out now seems bent on proving how much more of a musician he is than the artists who are popular now. I concede, though, that it could be just the mood he is in right now. My initial reaction is like a 4 out of 10, but I admit it could easily grow on me , and Chelsea Rodgers is the most fun song - musically - he has put out in a while. 3121 was just the opposite - I couldn't get enough of it at first. I don't believe I have listened to that ( start to finish ) this year.
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I assure of all of U that Prince of 2007 can not B prince of 1984-189 era .
yeah U Have right to wait THA best from PRINCE ! but he is human ! thanks 2 his strong power of overcoming WB and other music records mafia ! now the PRINCE is free so let him do what U want ! PRINCE used 2 B the world top singer once but he can stay there 4 life ! wake up we R living in 2007 the Techno, rap era ! love The PRINCE as he is now ? LOVE | |
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PapaSmurf said: It's a sad state of affairs when Justin Timberlake is making better and more interesting pop records than Prince.
Oh dear. | |
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SquirrelMeat said: The Album Sucks!
As I'm in first, I may as well shove my opinion out there! Planet Earth - 8 out of 10 - Great hauting style. Would have got a 10 if P could just learnt to get in some alternative background singers rather than rely on his own multi layers all the time. You like this if you like "Strays of the world". Guitar - 7 out of 10 - Great rock pop, Will feature in a segue with Peach somewhere live I'm sure. You'll like this if you like "Peach". Somewhere here on Earth - 7 out of 10 - Great little ballad, maybe wrongly placed in the track order, but a fine tune and much more original that throw away numbers like On The Couch and Satisfied. You'll like this if you like "One Nite Alone". The One you Wanna C - 7 out of 10 - Simple but catchy pop tune. In the same vain as When U were mine. Sounds 80s but modern at the same time. You'll like this if you like "Neon Telephone" Futura Baby Mama - 5 out of 10 - Retro sexy ballad by the numbers. Could do well in the USA where bland RnB rules, but overall, it sounds like an outtake from 1983. You'll like this if you like "I hate U". Mr Goodnight - 2 out of 10 - No Prince. No. A song that seems to be built around the rap structure of Muse 2 The Pharoahs. Give it up. Please. You'll like this if you like "Good Life - Big City Remix". All The Midnights In The World - 5 out of 10 - Nothing special, nice tune. You'll like this if you like "Circle Of Amour". Chelsea Rodgers - 8 out of 10 - Divine bass line! Prince hasn't been this funky in the studio since Days Of Wild! You like this if you like "Gett Off Urge Remix". Lion Of Judiah - 7 Out of 10 - Could be the grower. Great rock pop, without being too commercial. Love the vocal styles. You'll like this if you like "Money Don't matter 2 nite". Resolution - 7 Out if 10 - Like the previous track, a good little rock number. You'll like this if you like "Splash". Overall I've listened to the album about 20 times over the last week and it a fun trip. Nothing special, but enjoyable. Its like part 3 of a musicology/3121/PE trilogy. But like many films, a fourth installment will be a sequel too far. P needs to pick up the guantlet next time around a break some boundries. He's in cruise control. Its going to be a nice addition to the car stereo through the summer. . [Edited 7/12/07 10:12am] I agree with your review, Squirrel. It's better than Musicology and 3121 combined, but it's still more dentures than teeth. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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PapaSmurf said: Aloisio said: If PE was realeased in 1988, everybody would use the word masterpiece and if Lovesexy was realeased in 2007, everybody would say: "yeah, a pretty good album, but in the 80's Prince was better"!
Now, there's this stereotype that Prince can't reach the 80's peak, but as for me is just a prejudice. And PE proves eye m right. That's blasphemous.
Lovesexy is genius. Not because it came out in 1987. It's genius because I can put that record on right now, 20 years later, and still hear something new in all those layers. Lovesexy is genius because I can still ponder over the lyrics and the message and the metaphors or simply choose to enjoy it as a pop record. It's interesting about Lovesexy. I really like it, and include it my list of Prince's 80's run of great albums. But I'm sure I remember at the time it got a pretty mixed reception, and many saw it as the start of the decline that, for many, went into the 90s. | |
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Robert3rd said: I don't have any longing for the so called good ole days of Prince's career:
A. Because I did not start listening to Prince until 1998 (and actually liked New Power Soul) B.Because I'm not old enough to have had any "good ole days". With that said I don't believe Planet Earth will be an album that I will pull up on my iPod and want to hear random songs off of it like I do when I think of albums like Sign O the Times, The  Album, The Gold Experience, Lovesexy, or Diamonds and Pearls. Now that's not to say I'd like something like any of these album here in the 21st century. I respect where Prince is at musically. It just means I don't dig it. Mr. Goodnight I must've listened to 20 times today in the park. Chelsea Rogers really is not the fire that everyone around here seems to be burning from. And the rest of the album (With the exception of Somewhere Here on Earth) is filler. Hands down this isn't one of his best albums since the 21st century.  Haha! but I can smell that he is MJ lover and want to hit Prince Fans but no way !we hardocre radical Fan united
who on World can do show like Super bowel? , Madonna MJ can't so b  .
so PRINCE 4ever 
Chelsea Rogers is great song no matter what ! Prince can not heal OK eat MJ , Modonna ,Rap, Techno Music ! LOVE | |
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So, the actual cd offers something I haven't heard in ages on Prince records; layering that makes sense.
The mix is really nice, the sound warm. And where as he tried to cram too many sounds onto records/songs in the most recent past (let's say the last 10 years), he doesn't go overboard on this one. Me likey likey. It is GREAT GREAT GREAT to hear him use female backing singers again; female voices compliment his voice so well... |
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Ooh, and the European pressing of the actual cd is, of course, a print of the earth, showing Africa and Europe.
No US. Just saying. Or maybe the US version will have a print of the US, that would be a great touch. |
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afroboy said: Robert3rd said: I don't have any longing for the so called good ole days of Prince's career:
A. Because I did not start listening to Prince until 1998 (and actually liked New Power Soul) B.Because I'm not old enough to have had any "good ole days". With that said I don't believe Planet Earth will be an album that I will pull up on my iPod and want to hear random songs off of it like I do when I think of albums like Sign O the Times, The Album, The Gold Experience, Lovesexy, or Diamonds and Pearls. Now that's not to say I'd like something like any of these album here in the 21st century. I respect where Prince is at musically. It just means I don't dig it. Mr. Goodnight I must've listened to 20 times today in the park. Chelsea Rogers really is not the fire that everyone around here seems to be burning from. And the rest of the album (With the exception of Somewhere Here on Earth) is filler. Hands down this isn't one of his best albums since the 21st century. Haha! but I can smell that he is MJ lover and want to hit Prince Fans but no way !we hardocre radical Fan united
who on World can do show like Super bowel? , Madonna MJ can't so b .
so PRINCE 4ever
Chelsea Rogers is great song no matter what ! Prince can not heal OK eat MJ , Modonna ,Rap, Techno Music ! Yeah I use to be hardcore into Michael Jackson...when I was five! But when I turned 16 my musical tastes matured and seeing the Live in Syracuse tape in '98 changed my tune. As far as hating on Prince fans that would be kinda hard since I'm a Prince fan myself you dildo! And you're right no one puts on a show like P . But you're still a dildo... | |
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HamsterHuey said: So, the actual cd offers something I haven't heard in ages on Prince records; layering that makes sense.
The mix is really nice, the sound warm. And where as he tried to cram too many sounds onto records/songs in the most recent past (let's say the last 10 years), he doesn't go overboard on this one. Me likey likey. It is GREAT GREAT GREAT to hear him use female backing singers again; female voices compliment his voice so well... So you've heard the REAL version? If so, does it sound way different? Here in the states so we won't know for awhile now. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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iain said: PapaSmurf said: That's blasphemous.
Lovesexy is genius. Not because it came out in 1987. It's genius because I can put that record on right now, 20 years later, and still hear something new in all those layers. Lovesexy is genius because I can still ponder over the lyrics and the message and the metaphors or simply choose to enjoy it as a pop record. It's interesting about Lovesexy. I really like it, and include it my list of Prince's 80's run of great albums. But I'm sure I remember at the time it got a pretty mixed reception, and many saw it as the start of the decline that, for many, went into the 90s. Only in America. | |
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