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Reply #150 posted 06/30/07 2:55am

leecaldon

BartVanHemelen said:

How many tracks from his latest albums does he play live? He knows damn well that his old stuff is the good stuff, that's why he does "Girl" with Wendy.


More recent stuff he's been playing live the last few years:

2002: Rainbow Children, Muse 2 The Pharaoh, Xenophobia, The Work Pt. 1, 1+1+1 is 3, The Everlasting Now, Family Name, One Nite Alone, Avalanche were played reguarly live. He also played She Loves Me 4 Me and Last December the odd time.

2004: Musicology, Dear Mr. Man, Life O The Party, On The Couch, Prince and the Band,

2006/7: Fury, 3121, Lolita, Black Sweat, Get On The Boat, Musicology. He's also played Beautiful, Loved and Blessed, The Word and Te Amo Corazon.

He also played 'Reflection' with Wendy last week - a track that's only a couple of years old.

So he's been playing a few recent songs live over the past few years.
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Reply #151 posted 06/30/07 2:55am

CAMERANEWS

hey bart... brick machinegun stfu finger got that visual buddy?? you jealous wanna be..
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Reply #152 posted 06/30/07 2:58am

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Reply #153 posted 06/30/07 3:29am

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The fact that the Mail on Sunday website ad says "to find out how" rather than "get your free copy" suggests to me that some sort of phone call or letter will be required to get the CD.

In this case, it wouldn't get into the hands of so many.

I'd imagine the Mail On Sunday would want to make some sort of money from this. I half expect a premium rate phone number to be used to gather address details from those who want their "free" copy, costing about £1.50 a call or something like that.
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Reply #154 posted 06/30/07 3:58am

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i posted a comment on the dailymail site last night and it says there are no comments?!
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Reply #155 posted 06/30/07 4:16am

Anxiety

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If you click through the pages on the Daily Mail's Prince mini site - the last page actually says get the mail on sunday this week to find out how you can get Planet Earth for free.

????


maybe instead of a proper CD it's going to be an online code for a free download version of the album? in that case, the album's gonna live up to its title because everyone around the world is gonna be passing around that damn code by the end of the weekend! lol
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Reply #156 posted 06/30/07 4:26am

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Anxiety said:

HollywoodSt said:

If you click through the pages on the Daily Mail's Prince mini site - the last page actually says get the mail on sunday this week to find out how you can get Planet Earth for free.

????


maybe instead of a proper CD it's going to be an online code for a free download version of the album? in that case, the album's gonna live up to its title because everyone around the world is gonna be passing around that damn code by the end of the weekend! lol


But it does say that the CD will have the same packaging as the released version. And there are many references to it be FREE INSIDE and all that, so I'm guessing that this week it'll simply tell you to buy next week's. This way, they get to promote the giveaway over two weekends instead of just the one.
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Reply #157 posted 06/30/07 4:31am

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Reply #158 posted 06/30/07 8:03am

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give it away free or don't give it away free... I really don't care.

From a number of these posts it seems like people are annoyed because Prince is giving it away free on his terms rather than the norm where some shmoe that happens to get an advance copy and posts it on the internet for umm lets see ... free.
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Reply #159 posted 06/30/07 9:22am

Haystack

http://www.dailymail.co.u...rtComments

Some of the comments are now on the page.
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Reply #160 posted 06/30/07 12:38pm

222

from BBC article

Planet Earth will be given free with a future edition of the Mail on Sunday.
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Reply #161 posted 06/30/07 1:32pm

Anxiety

222 said:

from BBC article

Planet Earth will be given free with a future edition of the Mail on Sunday.


well, they can't very well give it out with last sunday's edition, can they?
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Reply #162 posted 06/30/07 2:06pm

drumstix

its going to be the july 15th one.
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Reply #163 posted 06/30/07 4:17pm

catpark

As i said before, before my thread was locket mad

The Mail is not giving away Prince’s new CD this Sunday
They're giving away a DVD of a film with Andi MacDowell in it.

http://www.prince.org/msg/7/232848


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Reply #164 posted 06/30/07 10:52pm

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Reply #165 posted 07/01/07 11:08am

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Anxiety said:

222 said:

from BBC article

Planet Earth will be given free with a future edition of the Mail on Sunday.


well, they can't very well give it out with last sunday's edition, can they?


Unless it's an episode of LOST, I'd say no.

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Reply #166 posted 07/01/07 2:47pm

mschirmer

The new Prince record is crap. Trust me.
He's giving it away because he's smart. He know's it's crap and he knows that it won't get played on the radio and he knows that it won't sell well in stores and he knows that the reviews will bomb. So he gives it way with tickets and newspapers in hopes that if it's forced on people it will do well....Christ, he's gone mad.

Nobody cares. Not even this once very serious Prince fan.

I'm over the ridiculousness.
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Reply #167 posted 07/01/07 2:50pm

Shawnt24

mschirmer said:

The new Prince record is crap. Trust me.
He's giving it away because he's smart. He know's it's crap and he knows that it won't get played on the radio and he knows that it won't sell well in stores and he knows that the reviews will bomb. So he gives it way with tickets and newspapers in hopes that if it's forced on people it will do well....Christ, he's gone mad.

Nobody cares. Not even this once very serious Prince fan.

I'm over the ridiculousness.


Sounds like someone cares to me
lol
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Reply #168 posted 07/01/07 2:53pm

Anxiety

mschirmer said:

The new Prince record is crap. Trust me.
He's giving it away because he's smart. He know's it's crap and he knows that it won't get played on the radio and he knows that it won't sell well in stores and he knows that the reviews will bomb. So he gives it way with tickets and newspapers in hopes that if it's forced on people it will do well....Christ, he's gone mad.

Nobody cares. Not even this once very serious Prince fan.

I'm over the ridiculousness.


actually, if he knows it's a crap album, he's done something that's the exact opposite of mad. all the copies have been sold to Mail on Sunday, tons of people who wouldn't even buy a prince album if it were the best thing he'd ever done are getting a copy whether they want it or not, and prince already has his album sales profits made in one fell swoop. in this age where the fans would be circulating it online anyway, sounds like a pretty clean sweep to me, crappy album or no. shrug
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Reply #169 posted 07/01/07 3:07pm

bonedaddy

mschirmer said:

The new Prince record is crap. Trust me.
He's giving it away because he's smart. He know's it's crap and he knows that it won't get played on the radio and he knows that it won't sell well in stores and he knows that the reviews will bomb. So he gives it way with tickets and newspapers in hopes that if it's forced on people it will do well....Christ, he's gone mad.

Nobody cares. Not even this once very serious Prince fan.

I'm over the ridiculousness.


You ARE so full of shit. If you made a shit album and you knew it (?) why would you give it away to everyone for free??? cos you want to put everyone off you for life, when you already struggle when it comes to casual listeners??
Don't be so fucking stupid!!
If he thought it was shit, he wouldn't be releasing it.
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Reply #170 posted 07/01/07 3:14pm

osc1r

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What's up with that UK thing suddenly. He never looked to the UK and was always in the Netherlands for his European releases and concerts. Now he's giving albums away in the UK.
Loyal dutch fans will not be rewarded for their loyalty, but just have dig in their bankaccount. confused


Well I made the smart move to Glasgow all those years ago.

I'll be getting several extra copies.

Do you want me to sent u 1 ?

Cheers

Oscar
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Reply #171 posted 07/01/07 4:02pm

Spunky

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My only problem with this is his choice of paper. The Daily/Sunday Biggot (sorry, Mail) is the worst excuse for reactionary, biased, feckless journalism in the UK. If this does go ahead, it's going to really pain me to walk to my newsagent that Sunday morning and hand over my cash to buy a copy of the Mail. I think i'd rather pay for an import copy for the US.

TT.


My exact sentiments Prince should do his research before first selling his soul to the devil – a newspaper whose founder supported fascism, the most bigoted newspaper in the UK – we black here deserve some respect – it is not only Black Americans that are oppressed. Why do a deal with a newspaper that constantly writes venom against minorities be it refugees, foreigners, black youth culture etc- the reason this country is going to the dogs is because of foreigners etc – would you make a deal with a newspaper in the States that use to support or supports prejudice and bigotry. Prince I have supported most thing you have done in the past but out of the greater evil the music industry or the daily mail you have made the wrong choice this time – fine great idea – wrong newspaper and I for one will not under any circumstances be buying this newspaper to get a copy of your album
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Reply #172 posted 07/01/07 4:21pm

mkaye8

If you sign a record deal why would you then turn your back on said record company and give your music away for free?
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Reply #173 posted 07/01/07 5:50pm

Anxiety

mkaye8 said:

If you sign a record deal why would you then turn your back on said record company and give your music away for free?


because you're prince. smile
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Reply #174 posted 07/02/07 2:21am

yipyipyow

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http://business.guardian.co.uk

Prince is launching his new Planet Earth album as a free giveaway with a national Sunday newspaper in a move that has drawn widespread condemnation from music retailers.

The 10-track CD will be available free with an "imminent" edition of the newspaper. Planet Earth will then go on sale on July 24.

"It's all about giving music for the masses and he believes in spreading the music he produces to as many people as possible," said Mail on Sunday managing director Stephen Miron.

"This is the biggest innovation in newspaper promotions in recent times."

The paper will be ramping up its print run in anticipation of a huge spike in circulation but would not reveal how much the deal with Prince would cost.

One music store executive described the plan as "madness" while others said it was a huge insult to an industry battling fierce competition from supermarkets and online stores.

Prince's label broke off ties in the UK with the album in a bid to appease music stores.

The Entertainment Retailers Association (ERA) said the giveaway "beggars belief".

"It would be an insult to all those record stores who have supported Prince throughout his career," ERA co-chairman Paul Quirk told a music conference.

"It would be yet another example of the damaging covermount culture which is destroying any perception of value around recorded music.

"The Artist Formerly Known as Prince should know that with behaviour like this he will soon be the Artist Formerly Available in Record Stores.

"And I say that to all the other artists who may be tempted to dally with the Mail on Sunday." High street music giant HMV was similarly scathing about the plans. Speaking before rumours of a giveaway were confirmed, HMV chief executive Simon Fox said: "I think it would be absolutely nuts."

"I can't believe the music industry would do it to itself. I simply can't believe it would happen, it would be absolute madness."

Prince, whose Purple Rain sold more than 11m copies, also plans to give away a free copy of his latest album with each ticket sold for his upcoming string of concerts in London.

The singer had signed a global deal as well for the promotion and distribution of Planet Earth in partnership with Columbia Records, a division of music company Sony BMG.

A spokesman for the group said tonight that the UK arm of Sony BMG had withdrawn from Prince's global deal and would not be distributing the album to UK stores.

"We think it is the right thing to do in the difficult retail market," he said. "We are delighted Prince has come back to a major label but this makes sense for the UK."

The Mail on Sunday, owned by Associated Newspapers, has built up a reputation for music giveaways and this is not the first time it has drawn harsh criticism.

It most recently clashed with musician Mike Oldfield over the giveaway of his album Tubular Bells.

Still, the paper maintains that its covermount CDs of artists such as Simply Red, Madness and Dolly Parton stimulate interest in music and it has asked retailers to look at partnerships.

"The Mail on Sunday is the biggest distributor of albums in this country," said Mr Miron. "We are saying to retailers we would be happy to engage in dialogue."

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[Edited 6/28/07 13:09pm]

kinda takes the shine off receiving it at the gigs i feel...i understand the strategy but still...give it away in the paper after the gigs are done.
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Reply #175 posted 07/02/07 2:22am

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Oh please, those guys know NOTHING. If Prince is a pioneer, prove it. But again: lemme remind you that Amazon started in 1995, that's more than TWO YEARS before Prince made a fuckery out of CB. Prince has done NOTHING that other artists haven't done earlier and better.
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Reply #176 posted 07/02/07 2:24am

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DexterDayglo said:

all i know is BartMan better take his knickers off b4 he twists his nuts off.


How can you spot a Prince fam? When you hear someone failing to bring up arguments and resort to dumb namecalling when the idiocy of his favorite artist's latest venture is exposed.
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Reply #177 posted 07/02/07 2:31am

MartyMcFly

BartVanHemelen said:

Why are there fools here who think he gets a cut of the price of the newspaper? Don't you people bother to THINK?


No need to, cuz you do all the thinking for us, right? confused
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Reply #178 posted 07/02/07 2:33am

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littlemissG said:

Increase his British fan base: sure this could definitely work.


By giving a free cd of mediocre pap to ignorant people?



So you've heard the album huh? How about a review? nod
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Reply #179 posted 07/02/07 2:33am

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Anxiety said:

I think he's doing a less interesting version of what NIN did with "Year Zero" - that album was pretty much distributed for free at first,


Oh please. Trent leaked a couple of tracks as MP3s on USB sticks handed to fans at concerts, which was COOL. Then he streamed the album after a Polish guy got hold of copies of the album weeks before the release, sold some of those copies on an eBay-like site, and rips from those leaked albums appeared on p2p. End result for Trent: ZERO PROFIT.

And now he's making the multi-track recordings of some of the tracks available via his site so fans can make their own remixes with quality source material. End result for Trent: ZERO PROFIT.

Oh, and he cancelled the release of the second single when he found out that the Australian branch of his record company were overpricing his album "because NIN fans will pay lotsa money anyway", and that the previous single was imported for excaggerated prices into the US. End result for Trent: ZERO PROFIT.

What did Prince do? Come up with yet another lame publicity stunt that is coupled with him getting a big payday. Meanwhile his fans get screwed (because non-UK fans either have to try to obtain copies of the givaway via ebay or wait till it arrives in shops much later), and at the same time he helps promote a disgusting newspaper.
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