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Reply #90 posted 06/29/07 11:16am

RUHip2TheJive

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Shhh747 said:

Rightly said:

Well, I am suprised.

Nice move from the skinny mutha fooka with the high voice!

All hail Partyman!


omg, ur avatar i so scary. boxed

... oh, and a woot! to Prince... but only if he does it here in the States as well. giggle


I'm with you on that one! highfive
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Reply #91 posted 06/29/07 11:30am

purplonia

i dont like this at all and why are the calling him "the artist formerly known as Prince"

prince

that whole warner brother deal is over with he is still known as Prince!


mad
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Reply #92 posted 06/29/07 12:37pm

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purplonia said:

and why are the calling him "the artist formerly known as Prince"

prince

that whole warner brother deal is over with he is still known as Prince!


mad


Thanks for pointing that out.
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Reply #93 posted 06/29/07 1:16pm

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I nearly threw up when I heard this.

1.The Mail sucks. They supported Hitler and Mussolini. They preach hate against immigrants and homosexuals and young people. They are the lowest of the low.

2.This means the only format the new Prince album is going to be released on over here is a crappy little cardboard sleeve.

3.This is another nail in the coffin of our struggling record shops. The Fopp chain has just gone bust and independent retailers are struggling to pay their bills.

This just sucks sad
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Reply #94 posted 06/29/07 1:17pm

virginie74

"It would be an insult to all those record stores who have supported Prince throughout his career," ERA co-chairman Paul Quirk told a music conference.


lol


dancing jig cool
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Reply #95 posted 06/29/07 1:52pm

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daned said:

I nearly threw up when I heard this.

1.The Mail sucks. They supported Hitler and Mussolini. They preach hate against immigrants and homosexuals and young people. They are the lowest of the low.

2.This means the only format the new Prince album is going to be released on over here is a crappy little cardboard sleeve.

3.This is another nail in the coffin of our struggling record shops. The Fopp chain has just gone bust and independent retailers are struggling to pay their bills.

This just sucks sad


[Snip - luv4u] You don't have to buy the mail on sunday. You can wait until it is officially released and pay full price for it. Fact that Prince is doing something for his fans, nobody else has ever done before, don't mean shit to you?
Don't you think his company would have researched the nationals and get the best deal? What you want him to giveaway his CD to Daily Star readers?

[Snip - luv4u]
Stretching his hand out to catch the stars, he forgets the flowers at his feet.
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Reply #96 posted 06/29/07 2:26pm

obsessed

He is just one big surprise after the next....I love it! lol cool
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Reply #97 posted 06/29/07 2:31pm

lspear76

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One Prince album isn't going to save the music "industry."

We don't know if it is "this Sunday" or not.

Please verify information before posting stuff.

I'm so sick of this.
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Reply #98 posted 06/29/07 2:36pm

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I trying to figure out the business angle.
Increase his British fan base: sure this could definitely work.
Use UK as jump point for an Europe tour: could happen.
Conclusion: Recover CD cost thru increased ticket sales.
Holy Musicology!

Producing a CD - $$$
Giving away CDs free - $$$$$
Giving the music industry the flipped off -Priceless
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Reply #99 posted 06/29/07 2:43pm

tainacher

The newspaper says: "To find out how to get Prince's new album free get this Sunday's Mail on Sunday"

So there will be no cd inside the issue of July 1st. Perhaps in the next one..
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Reply #100 posted 06/29/07 2:54pm

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Reply #101 posted 06/29/07 3:52pm

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Haystack said:

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=465229&in_page_id=1773

Post your comments.



I just added this comment...

Prince has always been way ahead of the rest both in terms of music and in terms of being a visionary.

He used the internet to supply music to his fans long before it became the norm and now he is using a newspaper to give away his new album. Some will criticise this move (no doubt the record shops) as he will be missing out on revenue from CD's sold, but I am sure that we will see CD sales of his last few albums and back catalogue rise after fans of old rediscover him with this giveaway and new fans are won.

I was one of the lucky few who saw Prince at the Koko club in May and have seen him live on several occassions throughout the years and I cannot wait to see him at the brand new O2 this summer. They may have to rebuild it oce he is done because something tells me that he is going to take the roof off of that place...
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Reply #102 posted 06/29/07 3:56pm

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newskin69 said:

First Paul signs with Starbucks, now Prince gives away CDs with newspapers..hopefully these show current artists that first and foremost, it's all about the music


Dude, THINK, will ya? Those people pay BIG BUCKS for that.

And FYI: When Prince was on the cover of Word magazine, they had one of their worst-ever selling issues ever. Just to put all that "ooh look at Prince he's so popular" crap to bed.
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Reply #103 posted 06/29/07 3:58pm

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VonMarie said:

Prince got screwed with his relationship with Warner Brothers. He lost some of his control


And why? Because he was BLEEDING THEIR MONEY through Paisley Park Records. Yeah, they were totally unreasonable to try to talk some sense into Prince and stop wasting THEIR millions.
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Reply #104 posted 06/29/07 4:05pm

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CJK505 said:

Clearly the best thing I have ever heard of, George Michael would be proud of boldness.


Would that be the same GM who resigned with Sony, the company he sued because he was dumb enough to sign a ludicrous contract early in his career? The same GM who announced he'd stop releasing records when everybody had stopped buying them ages ago? The same GM who now makes two kinds of songs over and over again?
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Reply #105 posted 06/29/07 4:06pm

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i posted a comment on the website in total support of prince, he needs public support form his fans and that is exactly what i wrote.
xx

i am a huge prince fan, he is my favourite artist. i adore him and have done for years, he is an innovator and he is always looking for new ways to give back to the fans, this is just another example of this. i am lucky enough to be attending 5 of of the tour dates (all i could afford) and i cant wait to hear his latest project, this will be a vehicle to also promote his music to new people, i am 19 and i think this would be a great way to also reach more people of my age as well as older people too. i will buy the jewel case version of this from overseas at a slightly later date,and i can get this really soon by the sounds of it and have a keepsake of what is going to be a very princely summer! i love it! prince doesnt get even half the respect and attention he deserves. he is full of surprises and he is as talented as he is beautiful. this is yet another very clever and surprising move from prince, and it shows that he well and truly owns his music which is what he is about anyway!xx

i posted this
take care veryonex
[Edited 6/29/07 16:07pm]
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Reply #106 posted 06/29/07 4:06pm

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unkleg said:

The album is called Planet Earth, and so it would be very cool that instead of an artist talking about 'how sad the Earth's demise is', whilst making a buck out of it. He makes no money, but brings the plight to the fore.


BULLSHIT. 1. Plenty of those CDs will be trashed, and CDs aren't biodegradable. 2. Prince gets paid mucho dinero for this.

Why are there fools here who think he gets a cut of the price of the newspaper? Don't you people bother to THINK?
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Reply #107 posted 06/29/07 4:10pm

hsh

BVH what is your point ?
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Reply #108 posted 06/29/07 4:18pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

CJK505 said:

Clearly the best thing I have ever heard of, George Michael would be proud of boldness.


Would that be the same GM who resigned with Sony, the company he sued because he was dumb enough to sign a ludicrous contract early in his career? The same GM who announced he'd stop releasing records when everybody had stopped buying them ages ago? The same GM who now makes two kinds of songs over and over again?


lol
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Reply #109 posted 06/29/07 4:23pm

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JimmyNothing said:

He used the internet to supply music to his fans long before it became the norm


Bullshit. Plenty of artists did it earlier and did it better. And continue to do it better. Just look at bands like Metallica or Pearl Jam. We're supposed to jump for joy when Prince deigns us worthy of buying an overpriced drm-protected, lossy encoded live track, while those bands offer ENTIRE CONCERT SERIES in LOSSLESS encoding or on CDs for fan-friendly prices.

Oh, and you might want to look up when Amazon started. I'll give you a hint: YEARS before Prince ripped off fans with Crystal Ball.

Prince wasn't a pioneer, and even sadder is that he's still one of the worst students in the class. Funny how you lot are still whining about WB, a company he left OVER A DECADE AGO, while giving Prince a free pass every frikking time.

Remember when Prince did world tours? Remember when Prince did concerts that didn't cost an arm and a leg? Remember when Prince liked playing live? Remember when Prince actually released music on a regular basis -- and it was GREAT music, not instantly forgettable "will this do" crap.

I've just heard a Felix Da Housecat remix of When Doves Cry (illegal of course), and it pisses me off that he had to use the released mixdown instead of the original multitrack. When will Prince wake up and realise that nobody cares about the dreck he excretes via yet another tired major label deal or dumb publicity stunt, and that us fans care about a) remasters, b) vault tracks, c) pristine live recordings.

And if he wants to be hip: allow current artists like Justice, Digitalism, Simian Mobile Disco, Basement Jaxx et al to remix his back catalogue. But not his latest pathetic attempt at a hit: nobody cares about that. Least of all Prince. Don't believe me? How many tracks from his latest albums does he play live? He knows damn well that his old stuff is the good stuff, that's why he does "Girl" with Wendy.
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Reply #110 posted 06/29/07 4:24pm

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its funny, ti hated the newspaper idea when i first heard i thought it was kind of cheapening but the more i think about it the more brilliant an i dea it is its him proving he is in complete conttrol of his music and maximising exposure. pure genius. i take back any negative thoughts i had about it earlier!
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Reply #111 posted 06/29/07 4:24pm

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littlemissG said:

Increase his British fan base: sure this could definitely work.


By giving a free cd of mediocre pap to ignorant people?
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Reply #112 posted 06/29/07 4:25pm

Sdldawn

so this sunday right?
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Reply #113 posted 06/29/07 4:31pm

Haystack

Sdldawn said:

so this sunday right?


I've not seen any ads on TV yet so I'll be surprised if the CD is going to be included inside this Sunday's edition. They normally advertise an included CD on TV for a good few days before the paper's publication date.
That said, I hope I'm wrong.
If there are TV ads tomorrow for Sunday, then it'll be all over the Org and we'll know for deffo. But right now, I've personally not seen any ads for it.
Pleeeease will somebody now say that they've seen the ads and I've obviously missed them.
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Reply #114 posted 06/29/07 4:32pm

Sdldawn

cant believe its not leaked yet
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Reply #115 posted 06/29/07 4:39pm

liltalkm

Sdldawn said:

cant believe its not leaked yet



Me too.

After just hearing "One U Wanna C" http://www.prince.org/msg/7/232745?pg=1

I am getting impatient!

Can't wait to hear the album in full. Thats 3 pretty solid tracks heard now and from the early reviews, we have not heard the best yet.

Later
Cause tomorrow is taking too long
and yesterday's too far away
and the reality that you believe in begins to bind.
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Reply #116 posted 06/29/07 4:40pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

JimmyNothing said:

He used the internet to supply music to his fans long before it became the norm


Bullshit. Plenty of artists did it earlier and did it better. And continue to do it better. Just look at bands like Metallica or Pearl Jam. We're supposed to jump for joy when Prince deigns us worthy of buying an overpriced drm-protected, lossy encoded live track, while those bands offer ENTIRE CONCERT SERIES in LOSSLESS encoding or on CDs for fan-friendly prices.

Oh, and you might want to look up when Amazon started. I'll give you a hint: YEARS before Prince ripped off fans with Crystal Ball.

Prince wasn't a pioneer, and even sadder is that he's still one of the worst students in the class. Funny how you lot are still whining about WB, a company he left OVER A DECADE AGO, while giving Prince a free pass every frikking time.

Remember when Prince did world tours? Remember when Prince did concerts that didn't cost an arm and a leg? Remember when Prince liked playing live? Remember when Prince actually released music on a regular basis -- and it was GREAT music, not instantly forgettable "will this do" crap.

I've just heard a Felix Da Housecat remix of When Doves Cry (illegal of course), and it pisses me off that he had to use the released mixdown instead of the original multitrack. When will Prince wake up and realise that nobody cares about the dreck he excretes via yet another tired major label deal or dumb publicity stunt, and that us fans care about a) remasters, b) vault tracks, c) pristine live recordings.

And if he wants to be hip: allow current artists like Justice, Digitalism, Simian Mobile Disco, Basement Jaxx et al to remix his back catalogue. But not his latest pathetic attempt at a hit: nobody cares about that. Least of all Prince. Don't believe me? How many tracks from his latest albums does he play live? He knows damn well that his old stuff is the good stuff, that's why he does "Girl" with Wendy.



Bullshit yourself Bart

http://www.webbyawards.co...php?id=118


PRINCE, MUSIC LEGEND AND INTERNET VISIONARY,

TO RECEIVE WEBBY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD AT

THE 10TH ANNUAL WEBBY AWARDS

www.webbyawards.com

New York, NY (May 31, 2006) - In recognition of his visionary use of the Internet to distribute music and connect with audiences, music legend Prince will be honored at The 10th Annual Webby Awards on June 12th in New York City, the International Academy of the Digital Arts and Sciences announced today.

The first major artist to release an entire album - 1997's Crystal Ball - [b]exclusively on the Web, Prince's leadership online has transformed the entertainment industry and reshaped the relationship between artist and fan. Long before MySpace and iTunes, Prince used the Web in new ways to distribute music, premiere videos, and build his relationship with his fans. His groundbreaking web site, NPG Music Club (www.npgmusicclub.com) boasts more than seven full-length CDs of music that are unavailable anywhere else.

"Besides being a musical genius, Prince is a visionary who recognized early on that the web would completely change how we experience music," said Tiffany Shlain, founder of The Webby Awards. "For more than a decade, he has tapped the power of the Web to forge a deeper connection with his fans and push the boundaries of technology and art."

Prince will be saluted alongside Webby Awards winners in 69 categories, as well as five other Special Achievement honorees - the founders of Myspace.com, Thomas Friedman, Mark Cuban, The Gorillaz, and Internet co-inventor Dr. Robert Kahn - which were announced earlier this month. Proclaimed "the online equivalent of an Oscar" by the New York Times (June 21, 2005), The Webby Awards is the leading international honor for Web sites and the innovators behind them.
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Reply #117 posted 06/29/07 5:34pm

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Does anyone consider this selling out?
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Reply #118 posted 06/29/07 5:50pm

ian

The Mail on Sunday is a fucking hateful rag, and even the lure of a new Prince album cannot draw me to purchase such a piss-poor excuse for a newspaper. Let's face it, by the time this summer is out we'll have no shortage of spare copies of Planet Earth lying around anyway. I'll be wallpapering my house with the inlays.

I must say too that I find this type of publicity stunt to be rather distasteful. It's nice that Prince is getting some media coverage for the London shows... but this cheapens the music (literally and figuratively). It seems like a desperate and misguided act - let's face it, Prince isn't growing his audience to a huge extent in 2007. He's established enough by now and has a large enough following that he'll fill The O2 many times this summer without even trying, and that should be enough.

If he really thinks giving away freebie copies of his latest work along with the Mail on Sunday will win him any new fans, he's living in a fantasy world. Twenty years ago your average Mail reader would be burning effigies of Prince and waving pitchforks and torches outside Paisley Park. Now he's putting his album as their fucking covermount? I'm not sure which party should be more embarrassed by this - maybe Prince and the Mail deserve each other. What PR genius thought Prince and the Mail would be a good match?
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Reply #119 posted 06/29/07 6:26pm

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ian said:

The Mail on Sunday is a fucking hateful rag, and even the lure of a new Prince album cannot draw me to purchase such a piss-poor excuse for a newspaper. Let's face it, by the time this summer is out we'll have no shortage of spare copies of Planet Earth lying around anyway. I'll be wallpapering my house with the inlays.

I must say too that I find this type of publicity stunt to be rather distasteful. It's nice that Prince is getting some media coverage for the London shows... but this cheapens the music (literally and figuratively). It seems like a desperate and misguided act - let's face it, Prince isn't growing his audience to a huge extent in 2007. He's established enough by now and has a large enough following that he'll fill The O2 many times this summer without even trying, and that should be enough.

If he really thinks giving away freebie copies of his latest work along with the Mail on Sunday will win him any new fans, he's living in a fantasy world. Twenty years ago your average Mail reader would be burning effigies of Prince and waving pitchforks and torches outside Paisley Park. Now he's putting his album as their fucking covermount? I'm not sure which party should be more embarrassed by this - maybe Prince and the Mail deserve each other. What PR genius thought Prince and the Mail would be a good match?


Who gives a fuck? You buy the Mail On Sunday and you get Prince's album thrown in. £1.40 or whatever for Prince's new CD. Great!
If you get all moral on it, then you also have to question Prince's own Jehovah's Witness stance right now. You may as well question buying bootlegs when, apparently, a lot of their sales are funding organised crime.
Oh, and it's not as if the music shops aren't greedily making more money per sale than the artist is if you buy music through them.

Ultimately, if you're going to have morals then you probably shouldn't be buying music anyway because somewhere along the line, there'll be at least one person in that chain that will have strong views that you'll disagree with. At least with The Mail On Sunday, you'll know that they're open about their views.
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