Raze said: FuNkeNsteiN said: And definitely no Larry Graham, the best damn bass player P ever played with. That's true, but I don't really think he's the best bass player for Prince's music. however princes style comes from Larry dont you think? | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: Raze said: That's true, but I don't really think he's the best bass player for Prince's music. however princes style comes from Larry dont you think? a few songs, but overall that's not really been Prince's brand of funk. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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I miss Blackwell...alot. & | |
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CherrieMoonKisses said: I miss Blackwell...alot.
yeah he wasnt the prettiest man in the world but he cold play them drums! | |
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When the band played Cream at koko in may, the keys were way to loud. dunno what part renato was doing though. but i think hes good, john and ronda are so neaded to come back though | |
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ElectricBlue said:[quote] phunkymunky said: wickyb said: KEYS Renato is obsessed with crappy storm sound effects and is more suited to jazz than the funk. .. I never thought of that, but your right! so true I be like what is he doing a damn horror movie flick? spooky electric | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: SCNDLS said: Have you seen them live and in person??? yes, I saw them when prince and tamar performed in houston last year.... just seems to be something missing I was at that show too, which was almost a year and a half ago and this band has done many, many shows and high profile events since then. Logic would tell you that they wouldn’t be in the same place they were then, even though I thought they were awesome in Houston. After seeing them on several occasions in the last 12 months I think they've found their rhythm together. People kill me constantly bringing up the Revolution when in reality, because of their youth and limited experiences with Prince, they were largely a bunch of novices and not seasoned, journeymen musicians like the current lineup. I think the real problem is that after seeing the same faces in a band for so many years people get to know them and form attachments to their favorite band members. It's easy for people to say this current lineup lacks personality but when have most people gotten a chance to get to know THIS band the way you know former versions of his band??? It is not Prince's responsibility to showcase the "personality" of the band members. He did it before with the Revolution and we got to know them through years of videos and of course Purple Rain. There hasn't been a similar opportunity for this band and maybe Prince doesn't want a cast of characters and wants their personalities in the background since the attention should be on the music anyway. Also, I don't think they REALLY played much on the 3121 album and even if you went to Vegas and saw them how would you get to know their "personality" from watching them back Prince up??? I'm just saying it's not fair to say they lack something personality wise when they've only been around for a couple of years and haven't been on a major tour so that the masses can see them. And even then, Prince is not showcasing his individual band members’ personalities as he did in the past so maybe THAT's the real difference in why people are having trouble connecting with this band. Personally, I had the pleasure to chat with most of them on different occasions in Vegas and they were always kind and gracious to the fans and killed on stage and in the end that’s what REALLY matters. | |
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SCNDLS said: mirrorbestfriend said: yes, I saw them when prince and tamar performed in houston last year.... just seems to be something missing I was at that show too, which was almost a year and a half ago and this band has done many, many shows and high profile events since then. Logic would tell you that they wouldn’t be in the same place they were then, even though I thought they were awesome in Houston. After seeing them on several occasions in the last 12 months I think they've found their rhythm together. People kill me constantly bringing up the Revolution when in reality, because of their youth and limited experiences with Prince, they were largely a bunch of novices and not seasoned, journeymen musicians like the current lineup. I think the real problem is that after seeing the same faces in a band for so many years people get to know them and form attachments to their favorite band members. It's easy for people to say this current lineup lacks personality but when have most people gotten a chance to get to know THIS band the way you know former versions of his band??? It is not Prince's responsibility to showcase the "personality" of the band members. He did it before with the Revolution and we got to know them through years of videos and of course Purple Rain. There hasn't been a similar opportunity for this band and maybe Prince doesn't want a cast of characters and wants their personalities in the background since the attention should be on the music anyway. Also, I don't think they REALLY played much on the 3121 album and even if you went to Vegas and saw them how would you get to know their "personality" from watching them back Prince up??? I'm just saying it's not fair to say they lack something personality wise when they've only been around for a couple of years and haven't been on a major tour so that the masses can see them. And even then, Prince is not showcasing his individual band members’ personalities as he did in the past so maybe THAT's the real difference in why people are having trouble connecting with this band. Personally, I had the pleasure to chat with most of them on different occasions in Vegas and they were always kind and gracious to the fans and killed on stage and in the end that’s what REALLY matters. I never said the revolution was his best band ....only a musical idiot would think that..... i'm not talking about chatting with them ,I'm talking about performance..... | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: SCNDLS said: I was at that show too, which was almost a year and a half ago and this band has done many, many shows and high profile events since then. Logic would tell you that they wouldn’t be in the same place they were then, even though I thought they were awesome in Houston. After seeing them on several occasions in the last 12 months I think they've found their rhythm together. People kill me constantly bringing up the Revolution when in reality, because of their youth and limited experiences with Prince, they were largely a bunch of novices and not seasoned, journeymen musicians like the current lineup. I think the real problem is that after seeing the same faces in a band for so many years people get to know them and form attachments to their favorite band members. It's easy for people to say this current lineup lacks personality but when have most people gotten a chance to get to know THIS band the way you know former versions of his band??? It is not Prince's responsibility to showcase the "personality" of the band members. He did it before with the Revolution and we got to know them through years of videos and of course Purple Rain. There hasn't been a similar opportunity for this band and maybe Prince doesn't want a cast of characters and wants their personalities in the background since the attention should be on the music anyway. Also, I don't think they REALLY played much on the 3121 album and even if you went to Vegas and saw them how would you get to know their "personality" from watching them back Prince up??? I'm just saying it's not fair to say they lack something personality wise when they've only been around for a couple of years and haven't been on a major tour so that the masses can see them. And even then, Prince is not showcasing his individual band members’ personalities as he did in the past so maybe THAT's the real difference in why people are having trouble connecting with this band. Personally, I had the pleasure to chat with most of them on different occasions in Vegas and they were always kind and gracious to the fans and killed on stage and in the end that’s what REALLY matters. I never said the revolution was his best band ....only a musical idiot would think that..... i'm not talking about chatting with them ,I'm talking about performance..... Uh, someone else did say that and a lot of people still think the Revolution are his best band. And I did mention that they sound great on stage, technical difficulties notwithstanding, but I guess you missed that too. And isn't this your comment below??? I was addressing the personality remark as well. mirrorbestfriend said: Yes I see your point anx but it takes more than just skill to make a great band.
there are millions of great players out there with skill,but you also need some type of personality to define the group.I think that is what made the time so good. skill and personalities. [Edited 6/6/07 10:27am] | |
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SCNDLS said:[quote] mirrorbestfriend said: Uh, someone else did say that and a lot of people still think the Revolution are his best band. And I did mention that they sound great on stage, technical difficulties notwithstanding, but I guess you missed that too. And isn't this your comment below??? I was addressing the personality remark as well. mirrorbestfriend said: Yes I see your point anx but it takes more than just skill to make a great band.
there are millions of great players out there with skill,but you also need some type of personality to define the group.I think that is what made the time so good. skill and personalities. [Edited 6/6/07 10:27am] oh,I 'm sorry but this band needs some character | |
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I've never posted in a 'which band should P have' thread before, but I just have to say... I like the band in the Guitar video for the most part. I think Rhonda should be on bass, though. I like the keyboard player, he seems to fit the rest of the band better than Neto would, even though I love him also. I like Cora on drums, she looks great in the video, love her hair and purple makeup... if that's her playin drums in the actual song Guitar, I like her drumming too. I've always loved The Twinz, they need 2 stay for a while... I predict some really cool makeup on them for "Planet Earth" related performances and pictures.
Yeah, I'm happy with this band. | |
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Jakeasaurus said: I've never posted in a 'which band should P have' thread before, but I just have to say... I like the band in the Guitar video for the most part. I think Rhonda should be on bass, though. I like the keyboard player, he seems to fit the rest of the band better than Neto would, even though I love him also. I like Cora on drums, she looks great in the video, love her hair and purple makeup... if that's her playin drums in the actual song Guitar, I like her drumming too. I've always loved The Twinz, they need 2 stay for a while... I predict some really cool makeup on them for "Planet Earth" related performances and pictures.
Yeah, I'm happy with this band. yes for some reason I like the twinz better than any other dancing bimbos prince has had | |
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Jakeasaurus said: I've never posted in a 'which band should P have' thread before, but I just have to say... I like the band in the Guitar video for the most part. I think Rhonda should be on bass, though. I like the keyboard player, he seems to fit the rest of the band better than Neto would, even though I love him also. I like Cora on drums, she looks great in the video, love her hair and purple makeup... if that's her playin drums in the actual song Guitar, I like her drumming too. I've always loved The Twinz, they need 2 stay for a while... I predict some really cool makeup on them for "Planet Earth" related performances and pictures.
Yeah, I'm happy with this band. Yay, Morris is the coolest thing about Prince's band at the moment. It's a welcome return for Mr Hayes. | |
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ZARIA7ETAN said: Jakeasaurus said: I've never posted in a 'which band should P have' thread before, but I just have to say... I like the band in the Guitar video for the most part. I think Rhonda should be on bass, though. I like the keyboard player, he seems to fit the rest of the band better than Neto would, even though I love him also. I like Cora on drums, she looks great in the video, love her hair and purple makeup... if that's her playin drums in the actual song Guitar, I like her drumming too. I've always loved The Twinz, they need 2 stay for a while... I predict some really cool makeup on them for "Planet Earth" related performances and pictures.
Yeah, I'm happy with this band. Yay, Morris is the coolest thing about Prince's band at the moment. It's a welcome return for Mr Hayes. he's no dr fink skill wize or personality | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: ZARIA7ETAN said: Yay, Morris is the coolest thing about Prince's band at the moment. It's a welcome return for Mr Hayes. he's no dr fink skill wize or personality I think every band member of at each stage of Prince's career has contributed something unique. Dr Fink was great in his time - now I don't think he'd fit with the current vibe, whereas I think Mr Hayes is an inspired choice. Personality wise - do you actually know either of these guys? | |
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ZARIA7ETAN said: mirrorbestfriend said: he's no dr fink skill wize or personality I think every band member of at each stage of Prince's career has contributed something unique. Dr Fink was great in his time - now I don't think he'd fit with the current vibe, whereas I think Mr Hayes is an inspired choice. Personality wise - do you actually know either of these guys? no,dont need to.... again i'm talking about stage presentation and chops,showmanship | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: ZARIA7ETAN said: I think every band member of at each stage of Prince's career has contributed something unique. Dr Fink was great in his time - now I don't think he'd fit with the current vibe, whereas I think Mr Hayes is an inspired choice. Personality wise - do you actually know either of these guys? no,dont need to.... again i'm talking about stage presentation and chops,showmanship They are different in their presentation, but Dr Fink was of his time and I don't think he'd fit now. I don't know how can you say Mr H has no stage presence, I think he has huge personality, but you're entitled to your opinion. | |
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Raze said: mirrorbestfriend said: however princes style comes from Larry dont you think? a few songs, but overall that's not really been Prince's brand of funk. P's funk is watered down compared to Larry's funk. It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: Raze said: a few songs, but overall that's not really been Prince's brand of funk. P's funk is watered down compared to Larry's funk. thats a bold statement young man are you prepared to back that up? have you heard lady cab driver? | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: FuNkeNsteiN said: P's funk is watered down compared to Larry's funk. thats a bold statement young man are you prepared to back that up? have you heard lady cab driver? Have you heard anything by Graham Central Station? It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: mirrorbestfriend said: thats a bold statement young man are you prepared to back that up? have you heard lady cab driver? Have you heard anything by Graham Central Station? yes hair and the jam but they cant touch prince | |
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I think the band is not as strong and as much a part of his show as in the past .In the old days each member of his band were as wellknown to the fans as Prince.the show was a complete show, not Prince performing with a band behind him.My problem is with the twins.They are not gifted,when it comes to dancing,so I am puzzeled as to why he usually surrounds himself with dancers that clearly are not dancers? I still love his performances.Just try not to look at dancers,they truly aggrevate me. You can count the singers that have been around awhile,that still allow their band to be a serious part of their show.I guess they think it takes something away from them.I don't see this being a reason for Prince,he is a hard act to follow!! | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: FuNkeNsteiN said: Have you heard anything by Graham Central Station? yes hair and the jam but they cant touch prince It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: Raze said: a few songs, but overall that's not really been Prince's brand of funk. P's funk is watered down compared to Larry's funk. they're just different kinds is all. Larry's playing sounds dated on Prince's music. Don't get me wrong, and this has nothing to do with all the JW b.s..... I just don't particularly enjoy hearing Larry play with Prince. Not to mention his stage shtick Though he is a great player. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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FuNkeNsteiN said: mirrorbestfriend said: yes hair and the jam but they cant touch prince larry overplays sometimes trying to show off instead of just laying the funky groove | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: FuNkeNsteiN said: larry overplays sometimes trying to show off instead of just laying the funky groove Well, he can afford to show off from time to time, bitch got some skeeelzzz Anyways, synth-funk can't compete with some good ol' thumpin' and horn powered funk It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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The best Prince band was the SOTT/Lovesexy band. However if you are to play with Prince, you have to be good. He's not going to have bums backing him. I think this band will do just fine. __________________________________________________
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joyinrepetition said: The best Prince band was the SOTT/Lovesexy band. However if you are to play with Prince, you have to be good. He's not going to have bums backing him. I think this band will do just fine.
baloney. he had Kirk playing drums for a couple of years there. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Raze said: joyinrepetition said: The best Prince band was the SOTT/Lovesexy band. However if you are to play with Prince, you have to be good. He's not going to have bums backing him. I think this band will do just fine.
baloney. he had Kirk playing drums for a couple of years there. Okay, ONE mistake in 30 years, give him a break. And I think that was more outta loyalty/friendship. | |
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FuNkeNsteiN said: mirrorbestfriend said: larry overplays sometimes trying to show off instead of just laying the funky groove Well, he can afford to show off from time to time, bitch got some skeeelzzz Anyways, synth-funk can't compete with some good ol' thumpin' and horn powered funk I disagree, Prince was his funkiest when he had the horn lines being played by synths.....I think he lost some of his identity when he started using real horns because it made him sound like everyone else in the 70's. Prince in the 80's was wayyy funkier than annnnnyyybody from the 70's trust me! Name me one song from the 70's that can compete with LADY CAB DRIVER,LET'S WORK.OR 777-9311? | |
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