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Reply #60 posted 06/06/07 12:51pm

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mirrorbestfriend said:

SCNDLS said:



Have you seen them live and in person???

yes, I saw them when prince and tamar performed in houston last year....

just seems to be something missing


i saw them then as well. i have to agree, the tightness is there, the on stage presence isn't there. just not the same. not saying they dont have "personality", it just doesn't show on stage. i myself prefer hayes on keys and blackwell on drums.....i like their style.
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Reply #61 posted 06/06/07 12:54pm

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txladykat said:

mirrorbestfriend said:


yes, I saw them when prince and tamar performed in houston last year....

just seems to be something missing


i saw them then as well. i have to agree, the tightness is there, the on stage presence isn't there. just not the same.


i think josh seems a lil uptight.....maybe he woried prince may do cora why he not around biggrin you know prince loves to do the musicians and dancers! biggrin
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Reply #62 posted 06/06/07 12:56pm

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I'm also not a big fan of the current band. I think the true test of magic with his band members over the years has been how much he chooses 2 spotlight them in solos and whatnot. P's love 4 John Blackwell and Rhonda Smith's playing ability was apparent. and what was the ALMA per4mance last night other than a valentine 2 Sheila E? I think Cora's got some skills and I actually perfer what Renato brings 2 Prince's live sound 2 Mr. Hayes, but that's me.

But, overall, I agree with the sentiment that it's a wealth of riches when it comes 2 musicians he's worked with (and no, Tony M. is NOT a musician! lol )
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Reply #63 posted 06/06/07 12:56pm

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mirrorbestfriend said:

txladykat said:



i saw them then as well. i have to agree, the tightness is there, the on stage presence isn't there. just not the same.


i think josh seems a lil uptight.....maybe he woried prince may do cora why he not around biggrin you know prince loves to do the musicians and dancers! biggrin


lol lol like he ain't busy enough with the twins! but...yea, isn't that the reason he lost his guitar tech of mnay years, Tazami...or however the heck you say his name.
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Reply #64 posted 06/06/07 1:00pm

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txladykat said:

mirrorbestfriend said:



i think josh seems a lil uptight.....maybe he woried prince may do cora why he not around biggrin you know prince loves to do the musicians and dancers! biggrin


lol lol like he ain't busy enough with the twins! but...yea, isn't that the reason he lost his guitar tech of mnay years, Tazami...or however the heck you say his name.


I would neverrrrr leave my girl alone with Prince!!!
you know that sneaky motherfucker will try to hit anything that moves! biggrin
and thats why I love him so much biggrin
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Reply #65 posted 06/06/07 1:01pm

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mirrorbestfriend said:

ZARIA7ETAN said:




I think every band member of at each stage of Prince's career has contributed something unique. Dr Fink was great in his time - now I don't think he'd fit with the current vibe, whereas I think Mr Hayes is an inspired choice. Personality wise - do you actually know either of these guys?


no,dont need to.... again i'm talking about stage presentation and chops,showmanship



Mr. Hayes says it's his job to play- not have "showmanship"- that's P's thing.
He's doing his 'thing' in the back... cool

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Reply #66 posted 06/06/07 1:03pm

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Well, he can afford to show off from time to time, bitch got some skeeelzzz cool
Anyways, synth-funk can't compete with some good ol' thumpin' and horn powered funk headbang


I disagree, Prince was his funkiest when he had the horn lines being played by synths.....I think he lost some of his identity when he started using real horns because it made him sound like everyone else in the 70's.

Prince in the 80's was wayyy funkier than annnnnyyybody from the 70's trust me!
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Name me one song from the 70's that can compete with LADY CAB DRIVER,LET'S WORK.OR 777-9311?
Ok.
Pretty much anything by Bootsy's Rubber Band & Parliament.
Ohio Players - Fire
Rick James - You And I
Slave - The Great American Funk Song
Instant Funk - I Got My Mind Made Up (You Can Get It Girl)
Graham Central Station - Entrow
Bar-Kays - Shake Your Rump To The Funk
Lakeside - Shot Of Love
Cameo - I Just Want To Be 12" version
The Brothers Johnson - Get The Funk Out Ma Face

etc etc... I could keep listin' stuff all night long. Anyways, I'm not saying Prince isn't funky and I sure as hell ain't saying that the cuts you mentioned are not good. All I'm saying is that when it comes down to laying down some real heavy funk, our Main Midget isn't on top of the pile.
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Reply #67 posted 06/06/07 1:04pm

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chocolate1 said:

mirrorbestfriend said:



no,dont need to.... again i'm talking about stage presentation and chops,showmanship



Mr. Hayes says it's his job to play- not have "showmanship"- that's P's thing.
He's doing his 'thing' in the back... cool

then get hiss ass off STAGE then
he can play behind the curtain!
dr fink gave me attitude
Lisa gave me lesbian desire looks
bonnie boyer gave me gospel church fall outs

mr hayes boring ass just smile and all you see is white teeth!
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Reply #68 posted 06/06/07 1:07pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

mirrorbestfriend said:



I disagree, Prince was his funkiest when he had the horn lines being played by synths.....I think he lost some of his identity when he started using real horns because it made him sound like everyone else in the 70's.

Prince in the 80's was wayyy funkier than annnnnyyybody from the 70's trust me!
stoned

Name me one song from the 70's that can compete with LADY CAB DRIVER,LET'S WORK.OR 777-9311?
Ok.
Pretty much anything by Bootsy's Rubber Band & Parliament.
Ohio Players - Fire
Rick James - You And I
Slave - The Great American Funk Song
Instant Funk - I Got My Mind Made Up (You Can Get It Girl)
Graham Central Station - Entrow
Bar-Kays - Shake Your Rump To The Funk
Lakeside - Shot Of Love
Cameo - I Just Want To Be 12" version
The Brothers Johnson - Get The Funk Out Ma Face

etc etc... I could keep listin' stuff all night long. Anyways, I'm not saying Prince isn't funky and I sure as hell ain't saying that the cuts you mentioned are not good. All I'm saying is that when it comes down to laying down some real heavy funk, our Main Midget isn't on top of the pile.


Dude those some weak ass obscure nobody cares examples!
prince would wipe the floor with any of those acts
ask rick james how prince can do you dirty like a mofo!
prince did him so dirty funk wise he tried to be prince!
do you remember the glow video? biggrin
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Reply #69 posted 06/06/07 1:09pm

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mirrorbestfriend said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:



Dude those some weak ass obscure nobody cares examples!
Man, that's was the most ignorant shit I've heard all night.

prince would wipe the floor with any of those acts
Riiight...

ask rick james how prince can do you dirty like a mofo!
prince did him so dirty funk wise he tried to be prince!
do you remember the glow video? biggrin
Uhm... not Rick's finest moment, most definitely.
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Reply #70 posted 06/06/07 1:12pm

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chocolate1 said:




Mr. Hayes says it's his job to play- not have "showmanship"- that's P's thing.
He's doing his 'thing' in the back... cool

then get hiss ass off STAGE then
he can play behind the curtain!
dr fink gave me attitude
Lisa gave me lesbian desire looks
bonnie boyer gave me gospel church fall outs

mr hayes boring ass just smile and all you see is white teeth!



Um, that's a bit extreme. He's not giving YOU anything. He's an excellent keyboardist. But I guess that's your opinion- U like someone up there clowning around instead of making good music? ... shrug

And what's with the "white teeth" crack? I don't like the implications of that... hmm

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Reply #71 posted 06/06/07 1:14pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

mirrorbestfriend said:



Dude those some weak ass obscure nobody cares examples!
Man, that's was the most ignorant shit I've heard all night.

prince would wipe the floor with any of those acts
Riiight...

ask rick james how prince can do you dirty like a mofo!
prince did him so dirty funk wise he tried to be prince!
do you remember the glow video? biggrin
Uhm... not Rick's finest moment, most definitely.


dude some of the groups you named are so weak Prince wouldn't have to do them
He could send the origial TIME to kick cameo's,barkays ass!
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Reply #72 posted 06/06/07 1:15pm

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mirrorbestfriend said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:



Dude those some weak ass obscure nobody cares examples!
prince would wipe the floor with any of those acts
ask rick james how prince can do you dirty like a mofo
prince did him so dirty funk wise he tried to be prince!
do you remember the glow video? biggrin

No. He was just jealous cause was a huge crossover artist who was more succesful than Rick. The more Rick tried to emulate Prince, the farther away he moved from real funk.
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Reply #73 posted 06/06/07 1:16pm

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Alltough i agree that this band is not his best, i think some people are being far too critical of Prince today.

Its like they feel they can demand Prince to deliver another Sign of the Times or Purple Rain, like he is some musician that should furfill their needs all of the time.

I mean, alltough cora and josh are no Michael Bland and Sonny Thompson, their playing on the new version of Guitar sounds tight and good at least.

But a more important question: if you dont like Princes current band, why complain constantly? There are so much more great bands around, so much more artists who deliver great music.

Staring yourself blind on Princes music is actually absurd in the end. When youre a real musiclover you dont stare yourself blind on a single musician, but you look further and enjoy all the great music that is delivered by other artists.
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Reply #74 posted 06/06/07 1:17pm

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Funny.. i was thinking about the band not too long ago and wondering why they just seem ok.. The Bass and Drums were not as locked as in the past..

Then I wondered if they may be Jehovah witnesses.. You know he likes to be surrounded with same belief type of people..... I wonder.....
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Reply #75 posted 06/06/07 1:17pm

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mirrorbestfriend said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:



dude some of the groups you named are so weak Prince wouldn't have to do them
He could send the origial TIME to kick cameo's,barkays ass!

Riiight...
Dunno why I actually bother posting anything about funk over here @ P:Music&More cause it's always just full of fanboys who think Prince is the greatest funkateer ever to have lived.
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Reply #76 posted 06/06/07 1:19pm

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I'm also not a big fan of the current band. I think the true test of magic with his band members over the years has been how much he chooses 2 spotlight them in solos and whatnot. P's love 4 John Blackwell and Rhonda Smith's playing ability was apparent. and what was the ALMA per4mance last night other than a valentine 2 Sheila E? I think Cora's got some skills and I actually perfer what Renato brings 2 Prince's live sound 2 Mr. Hayes, but that's me.

But, overall, I agree with the sentiment that it's a wealth of riches when it comes 2 musicians he's worked with (and no, Tony M. is NOT a musician! lol )


It made sense to do this in the Alma show for Sheila cuz she's Latina. When he's been on TV recently it's not the time nor the place to give a relatively unknown musician a solo. He gave all the band members various solos in all the live concerts and aftershows I went to in Vegas.
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Reply #77 posted 06/06/07 3:11pm

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they r okay so there! razz
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Reply #78 posted 06/06/07 4:28pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

mirrorbestfriend said:



I disagree, Prince was his funkiest when he had the horn lines being played by synths.....I think he lost some of his identity when he started using real horns because it made him sound like everyone else in the 70's.

Prince in the 80's was wayyy funkier than annnnnyyybody from the 70's trust me!
stoned

Name me one song from the 70's that can compete with LADY CAB DRIVER,LET'S WORK.OR 777-9311?
Ok.
Pretty much anything by Bootsy's Rubber Band & Parliament.
Ohio Players - Fire
Rick James - You And I
Slave - The Great American Funk Song
Instant Funk - I Got My Mind Made Up (You Can Get It Girl)
Graham Central Station - Entrow
Bar-Kays - Shake Your Rump To The Funk
Lakeside - Shot Of Love
Cameo - I Just Want To Be 12" version
The Brothers Johnson - Get The Funk Out Ma Face

etc etc... I could keep listin' stuff all night long. Anyways, I'm not saying Prince isn't funky and I sure as hell ain't saying that the cuts you mentioned are not good. All I'm saying is that when it comes down to laying down some real heavy funk, our Main Midget isn't on top of the pile.


I got love for P, but damn the commodores in the 70's - so underated!
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Reply #79 posted 06/06/07 4:39pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:



I got love for P, but damn the commodores in the 70's - so underated!


Oh Mandrill!! earth wind, Billy Cobham - list is limitless, its just that P is unlimited and has so many skills that he takes it to the next level which makes it a silly argument.

P covers a lot of these artists and thats kinda paying the highest respect

He obviously loves Love Rollercoaster and brick house which are up there with any P track.

My best band was the 95 line up, and followed by the ONA band - will see the new line up at the 02 for myself! and will then comment
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Reply #80 posted 06/06/07 8:00pm

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mirrorbestfriend said:



Uh, someone else did say that and a lot of people still think the Revolution are his best band. And I did mention that they sound great on stage, technical difficulties notwithstanding, but I guess you missed that too. wink

And isn't this your comment below??? I was addressing the personality remark as well. sigh

mirrorbestfriend said:

Yes I see your point anx but it takes more than just skill to make a great band.
there are millions of great players out there with skill,but you also need some type of personality to define the group.I think that is what made the time so good. skill and personalities.

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Threads like these are meant to grab orgers opinions and then harvest a healthy debate...no one should be attacked regarding their opinion. Some people here come across a bit harsh when replying to posts. (won't mention names) Perhaps you should step back and read your post before you hit send.(you know who u r) State your opinion but don't try to argue it as fact...
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Reply #81 posted 06/06/07 8:06pm

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txladykat said:

mirrorbestfriend said:



i think josh seems a lil uptight.....maybe he woried prince may do cora why he not around biggrin you know prince loves to do the musicians and dancers! biggrin


lol lol like he ain't busy enough with the twins! but...yea, isn't that the reason he lost his guitar tech of mnay years, Tazami...or however the heck you say his name.


His name is Takumi...what reason are you referring to?
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Reply #82 posted 06/06/07 8:07pm

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txladykat said:

mirrorbestfriend said:



i think josh seems a lil uptight.....maybe he woried prince may do cora why he not around biggrin you know prince loves to do the musicians and dancers! biggrin


lol lol like he ain't busy enough with the twins! but...yea, isn't that the reason he lost his guitar tech of mnay years, Tazami...or however the heck you say his name.



You folks need to worry about your OWN genitals smile Prince may have a bit more respect these days to break up someones household, GOOD GRIEF confused
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Reply #83 posted 06/06/07 8:09pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

Alltough i agree that this band is not his best, i think some people are being far too critical of Prince today.

Its like they feel they can demand Prince to deliver another Sign of the Times or Purple Rain, like he is some musician that should furfill their needs all of the time.

I mean, alltough cora and josh are no Michael Bland and Sonny Thompson, their playing on the new version of Guitar sounds tight and good at least.

But a more important question: if you dont like Princes current band, why complain constantly? There are so much more great bands around, so much more artists who deliver great music.


Staring yourself blind on Princes music is actually absurd in the end. When youre a real musiclover you dont stare yourself blind on a single musician, but you look further and enjoy all the great music that is delivered by other artists.



Here Here!
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Reply #84 posted 06/06/07 8:17pm

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utopia7 said:

txladykat said:



lol lol like he ain't busy enough with the twins! but...yea, isn't that the reason he lost his guitar tech of mnay years, Tazami...or however the heck you say his name.



You folks need to worry about your OWN genitals smile Prince may have a bit more respect these days to break up someones household, GOOD GRIEF confused
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Reply #85 posted 06/06/07 8:18pm

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sexxydancer said:

Lovesexy/SOTT band 4 me!


highfive


love love love the Lovesexy band yes
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Reply #86 posted 06/06/07 8:32pm

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txladykat said:

mirrorbestfriend said:


yes, I saw them when prince and tamar performed in houston last year....

just seems to be something missing


i saw them then as well. i have to agree, the tightness is there, the on stage presence isn't there. just not the same. not saying they dont have "personality", it just doesn't show on stage. i myself prefer hayes on keys and blackwell on drums.....i like their style.



I pretty much agree. I'm not saying the current line up are bad musicians, they're not, I mean they are all professionals; but they lack the flava/flair/spark whatever you wanna call it of past bands. I feel like there is no cohesiveness or personality to them. Like they are literally just Prince's back-up band.

I felt that way from the first time I saw them at Nokia--there isn't any chemistry between them--or between them and Prince. I will admit they have gotten tighter music-wise but for playing together for over a year, they are still sloppy for a Prince band.

Maybe Prince is more laid back these days or this is his way of "mentoring" younger musicians, but I'm actually kinda surprised he's kept them this long. I guess maybe they are less expensive to keep on the payroll too...(compared to Blackwell, et al.) razz


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Reply #87 posted 06/06/07 8:38pm

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who's better cora or kirk johnson? biggrin
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Reply #88 posted 06/06/07 8:47pm

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DevotedPuppy said:

txladykat said:



i saw them then as well. i have to agree, the tightness is there, the on stage presence isn't there. just not the same. not saying they dont have "personality", it just doesn't show on stage. i myself prefer hayes on keys and blackwell on drums.....i like their style.



I pretty much agree. I'm not saying the current line up are bad musicians, they're not, I mean they are all professionals; but they lack the flava/flair/spark whatever you wanna call it of past bands. I feel like there is no cohesiveness or personality to them. Like they are literally just Prince's back-up band.

I felt that way from the first time I saw them at Nokia--there isn't any chemistry between them--or between them and Prince. I will admit they have gotten tighter music-wise but for playing together for over a year, they are still sloppy for a Prince band.

Maybe Prince is more laid back these days or this is his way of "mentoring" younger musicians, but I'm actually kinda surprised he's kept them this long. I guess maybe they are less expensive to keep on the payroll too...(compared to Blackwell, et al.) razz


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they definitely lack the flare of previous bands...
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Reply #89 posted 06/06/07 9:05pm

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also something else is strange?

no white band members?

thats not prince?

prince band use to look like time square in new york,very diverse

now it looks like Atlanta! biggrin
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