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Printableicke4presidant said: shaomi said: It's funny because in the Sinead O'Connor thread lotsa people who obviously never have met Prince r saying he's a bastard & an asshole & here, people who have briefly met him say he's a kind & gentle person.
That's the difference between gossip & the truth, i guess. I'm sure Prince is a nice person & most testimonies from both fans & collaborators corroborate this. It must b awful 2 b famous when u see how many people r ready 2 talk shit about u no matter what ur real behavior is... . [Edited 6/20/07 5:24am] You are living in fantasy land. Listen to what his engineer said. Jesse johnson, morris day, w & l, sinead, rosie ogaines, carmen electra, michael b, tony m, his bodyguard, his former manager, nona gaye, andre cymone, jill jones, jimmy jam and lewis, paisley park employees, quincy jones, elton john, stevie ray vaughan and more HAVE ALL SAID NEGATIVE THINGS about HOW PRINCE TREATED THEM AND OTHER HUMANS I've read Per Nielsen's DMSR book, Liz Allen's Slave 2 The Rythm book, a lot of Uptown articles, the whole Michael B. thread on the Org & dozens of innerviews of others including those u mention & none said, as u & Sinead do, that Prince is a violent person or an absolute bastard. So don't tell me i live in fantasy land. Some HAVE said that they didn't feel respected with such or such aspect or their relationship with Prince, or such decision he made, or that by doing this or that Prince upset them, sometimes a lot, but u know what: same has been said about u or me or anyone! I don't think i'm a bastard but i'm sure u'll find many of my friends, girlfriends or collaborators that could say 2 u that i didn't respect them in a way or another on a particular situation, or at least that they didn't feel respected by something i said or done. Does that make me a total bastard, a rapist or an abusive person? I don't think so. I ain't sayin' Prince is a saint or Jesus. I'm just saying that, even if he's perfectly able 2 hurt others & has done so sometimes, he's not the kind of monster some people r trying so hard 2 prove that he is. I think he's a perfectly decent person, actually more decent than many, which doesn't mean he can't behave like shit from time 2 time. | |
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shaomi said: icke4presidant said: You are living in fantasy land. Listen to what his engineer said. Jesse johnson, morris day, w & l, sinead, rosie ogaines, carmen electra, michael b, tony m, his bodyguard, his former manager, nona gaye, andre cymone, jill jones, jimmy jam and lewis, paisley park employees, quincy jones, elton john, stevie ray vaughan and more HAVE ALL SAID NEGATIVE THINGS about HOW PRINCE TREATED THEM AND OTHER HUMANS I've read Per Nielsen's DMSR book, Liz Allen's Slave 2 The Rythm book, a lot of Uptown articles, the whole Michael B. thread on the Org & dozens of innerviews of others including those u mention & none said, as u & Sinead do, that Prince is a violent person or an absolute bastard. So don't tell me i live in fantasy land. Some HAVE said that they didn't feel respected with such or such aspect or their relationship with Prince, or such decision he made, or that by doing this or that Prince upset them, sometimes a lot, but u know what: same has been said about u or me or anyone! I don't think i'm a bastard but i'm sure u'll find many of my friends, girlfriends or collaborators that could say 2 u that i didn't respect them in a way or another on a particular situation, or at least that they didn't feel respected by something i said or done. Does that make me a total bastard, a rapist or an abusive person? I don't think so. I ain't sayin' Prince is a saint or Jesus. I'm just saying that, even if he's perfectly able 2 hurt others & has done so sometimes, he's not the kind of monster some people r trying so hard 2 prove that he is. I think he's a perfectly decent person, actually more decent than many, which doesn't mean he can't behave like shit from time 2 time. No Prince is known to be a bastard; HE EVEN ADMITTED IT ONCE SAYING' I WAS HORRIBLE' yes he did say that it's on the net. Let's be real. His treatment of nona gaye was horrible as was his treatment of mayte | |
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why doesnt everyone who supporting hes a bastard just meet them for themselves and find out?
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Hey , shellyann , have you met him in person ???? How do you know this for a fact ? Please , do tell !!!! | |
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icke4presidant said: shaomi said: I've read Per Nielsen's DMSR book, Liz Allen's Slave 2 The Rythm book, a lot of Uptown articles, the whole Michael B. thread on the Org & dozens of innerviews of others including those u mention & none said, as u & Sinead do, that Prince is a violent person or an absolute bastard. So don't tell me i live in fantasy land. Some HAVE said that they didn't feel respected with such or such aspect or their relationship with Prince, or such decision he made, or that by doing this or that Prince upset them, sometimes a lot, but u know what: same has been said about u or me or anyone! I don't think i'm a bastard but i'm sure u'll find many of my friends, girlfriends or collaborators that could say 2 u that i didn't respect them in a way or another on a particular situation, or at least that they didn't feel respected by something i said or done. Does that make me a total bastard, a rapist or an abusive person? I don't think so. I ain't sayin' Prince is a saint or Jesus. I'm just saying that, even if he's perfectly able 2 hurt others & has done so sometimes, he's not the kind of monster some people r trying so hard 2 prove that he is. I think he's a perfectly decent person, actually more decent than many, which doesn't mean he can't behave like shit from time 2 time. No Prince is known to be a bastard; HE EVEN ADMITTED IT ONCE SAYING' I WAS HORRIBLE' yes he did say that it's on the net. Let's be real. His treatment of nona gaye was horrible as was his treatment of mayte 
Ur hate 4 Prince & ur urge 2 prove he's a bad person is amazing. Did he refuse 2 have sex with u once or what? | |
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Prince is kindest to those who inspire him the most. To find this out can be a bit tricky. Use your time wisely. | |
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wow. 
I am amazed at how many "fans" hate Prince. You hate him but you supprt him by buying his music? He's a horrible person but spend hundreds of dollars to see or hear him? Yep you're a true fan, talking trash about someone you don't even really know. Yeah people have said negative things about him but they've said negative things about everyone. It's called gossip, the only people who really know are the ones who know him and none of us do. Why are people his fans if they hate him? I'm sure he'd be nice unless you were trying to annoy him unless he was having a bad day. ANd no one is nice when they are having bad days! NO ONE! peace & love. love God. | |
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Genesia said: Soulchild82 said: Never met him per se. But I did get called on stage by DJ Rashida during partyman (one of two of his own songs he did during thos Tamar shows last year) and I was literally two feet away from prince. Even got a hug from the twinz.
 while he was walking off stage he gave people (including me hi fives). So I walked to the edge of the stage to get off and I rubbed the hand i got the hi five with on this girls face with a sign of the times jacket on. toal purple freak and she nearly passed out lol. I cant even make that up. I got pics from that show.
[Edited 6/19/07 19:08pm] Was that in Minneapolis? Rashida called me up, too. No It was in Atlanta "Thinking like the Keys on Prince's piano, we'll be just fine" | |
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TheEnglishGent said: shaedove99 said: From what I've read he seems to be friendlier than some thought... as long as you don't give him a sand dollar.
I'd forgotten about that incident. I think that incident is now an official part of Prince history. |
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He's very friendly with people LATELY when he's handing you a watchtower. | |
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I would love 2 meet him. MayB I will B lucky in London in August.
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SamanthaDawn said: wow.
I am amazed at how many "fans" hate Prince. You hate him but you supprt him by buying his music? He's a horrible person but spend hundreds of dollars to see or hear him? Yep you're a true fan, talking trash about someone you don't even really know. Yeah people have said negative things about him but they've said negative things about everyone. It's called gossip, the only people who really know are the ones who know him and none of us do. Why are people his fans if they hate him? I'm sure he'd be nice unless you were trying to annoy him unless he was having a bad day. ANd no one is nice when they are having bad days! NO ONE! You need to grow up and stop worshipping prince. Most people become a fan of the music before they find out about the person. As Prince's engineer said don't meet or find out about your heros or fav artists. Stating facts about someone behaviour is not gossip. The cheating on gfs, telling them what to do etc is fact not gossip. People have witnessed it. Price was rude to several artists who tried to engage in conversation and i could say the same for fans. The engineer who worked with Prince for a few years said he treats people really bad. Jess johnson called him an asshole. Andre fell out with him. hE fired jimmy and lewis. Insulted and degraded W & L. Nona gaye said he played with her head for three years ; the list goes on and on. JUST get real and realise this. The music is immense though and despite the person it's hard to keep away from the art. | |
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icke4presidant said: SamanthaDawn said: wow.
I am amazed at how many "fans" hate Prince. You hate him but you supprt him by buying his music? He's a horrible person but spend hundreds of dollars to see or hear him? Yep you're a true fan, talking trash about someone you don't even really know. Yeah people have said negative things about him but they've said negative things about everyone. It's called gossip, the only people who really know are the ones who know him and none of us do. Why are people his fans if they hate him? I'm sure he'd be nice unless you were trying to annoy him unless he was having a bad day. ANd no one is nice when they are having bad days! NO ONE! You need to grow up and stop worshipping prince. Most people become a fan of the music before they find out about the person. As Prince's engineer said don't meet or find out about your heros or fav artists. Stating facts about someone behaviour is not gossip. The cheating on gfs, telling them what to do etc is fact not gossip. People have witnessed it. Price was rude to several artists who tried to engage in conversation and i could say the same for fans. The engineer who worked with Prince for a few years said he treats people really bad. Jess johnson called him an asshole. Andre fell out with him. hE fired jimmy and lewis. Insulted and degraded W & L. Nona gaye said he played with her head for three years ; the list goes on and on. JUST get real and realise this. The music is immense though and despite the person it's hard to keep away from the art. don`t you think though hes changed over the years? i mean its possible now that hes now religous and all i do beleive though he could`ve been a jerk in the past but in the present i think hes a changed person | |
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purplonia said: icke4presidant said: You need to grow up and stop worshipping prince. Most people become a fan of the music before they find out about the person. As Prince's engineer said don't meet or find out about your heros or fav artists. Stating facts about someone behaviour is not gossip. The cheating on gfs, telling them what to do etc is fact not gossip. People have witnessed it. Price was rude to several artists who tried to engage in conversation and i could say the same for fans. The engineer who worked with Prince for a few years said he treats people really bad. Jess johnson called him an asshole. Andre fell out with him. hE fired jimmy and lewis. Insulted and degraded W & L. Nona gaye said he played with her head for three years ; the list goes on and on. JUST get real and realise this. The music is immense though and despite the person it's hard to keep away from the art. don`t you think though hes changed over the years? i mean its possible now that hes now religous and all i do beleive though he could`ve been a jerk in the past but in the present i think hes a changed person Religion makes someone a better person
Yes he's less angry certainly and more sociable. Mani left him and his sexist rants on some of the one nite alone tours were disgusting. He treated kevin smith really bad and kevin said Prince was ranting about the religious heirachy; god>man>women>animals. The way he left mayte was horrible. Look what happened to housequake. Prince is still a selfish, controlling person. There's no love in his heart for his fellow man/woman unless they follow his dogma; hence 'the banished ones' | |
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icke4presidant said: purplonia said: don`t you think though hes changed over the years? i mean its possible now that hes now religous and all i do beleive though he could`ve been a jerk in the past but in the present i think hes a changed person Religion makes someone a better person
Yes he's less angry certainly and more sociable. Mani left him and his sexist rants on some of the one nite alone tours were disgusting. He treated kevin smith really bad and kevin said Prince was ranting about the religious heirachy; god>man>women>animals. The way he left mayte was horrible. Look what happened to housequake. Prince is still a selfish, controlling person. There's no love in his heart for his fellow man/woman unless they follow his dogma; hence 'the banished ones' in that case the quote of "live and die by your own sword" should have some helpful insight...you know alot...how do you know so much about the purple one?
i don`t agree with the theory of women right before animals... as far as Mayte and Mani, no one really knows the whole detail of what went on when they were alone in their personal life  | |
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He doesn't take pictures, he doesn't give autographs.  Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U. | |
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purplonia said: icke4presidant said: Religion makes someone a better person
Yes he's less angry certainly and more sociable. Mani left him and his sexist rants on some of the one nite alone tours were disgusting. He treated kevin smith really bad and kevin said Prince was ranting about the religious heirachy; god>man>women>animals. The way he left mayte was horrible. Look what happened to housequake. Prince is still a selfish, controlling person. There's no love in his heart for his fellow man/woman unless they follow his dogma; hence 'the banished ones' in that case the quote of "live and die by your own sword" should have some helpful insight...you know alot...how do you know so much about the purple one?
i don`t agree with the theory of women right before animals... as far as Mayte and Mani, no one really knows the whole detail of what went on when they were alone in their personal life How do i know? From the people who were there. Their comments interviews, etc plus videos and knowing people who prince deliberately blanked when they tried to say hello. PLUS prince himself said; 'I WAS HORRIBLE' when asked about his dictatership. I have seen and read the interview HE ADMITTED THAT! | |
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Purplonia , what is his religion Exactly . Is it full out Jejovah's Witness or what , exactly ???? Oh , and I think that everyone should remember what Prince is . This is for any of you who know anything at all about real astrology . He is a gemini . Therefore , it is not that he has changed this way or that way . But that he switches in and out of moods . Gemini's , you must remember , are two people inside of one person . Yes , I'm sure he has done the usual human nature maturing thing , but he is still who he is , underneath all of that . Why do you think the name changes , and then back again stuff . Things like that are soooo very Gemini typical . Plus , his chinese sign is a dog , if I am correct , I 'll have to double check that again . And dogs have a tendency not to trust and to be a lil paranoid . No , I'm not saying that he is paranoid , just sometimes a bit high-strung . Which dog people can be . But dogs do ALWAYS defend and stand up for the underdog and / or justice . Prince is just who he is , and his status in music makes his natural qualities and tendencies even that more accentuated . | |
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Oh , I forgot , I also wanted to say that that is why he goes in rants or acts up against people , it is the very fickle Gemini . That is IT !!!! They can all of the sudden be flaky . | |
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Like many on here already know, I was fortunate enough by actually being able to record with Morris and Andre. In that enviroment, a lot of time was spent, over the course of 2 days. And I actually still stayed in touch with Cymone since 95. They told me many things about P. This is coming from two cats that knew P very well, especially Andre. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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guitargirl said: Purplonia , what is his religion Exactly . Is it full out Jejovah's Witness or what , exactly ???? Oh , and I think that everyone should remember what Prince is . This is for any of you who know anything at all about real astrology . He is a gemini . Therefore , it is not that he has changed this way or that way . But that he switches in and out of moods . Gemini's , you must remember , are two people inside of one person . Yes , I'm sure he has done the usual human nature maturing thing , but he is still who he is , underneath all of that . Why do you think the name changes , and then back again stuff . Things like that are soooo very Gemini typical . Plus , his chinese sign is a dog , if I am correct , I 'll have to double check that again . And dogs have a tendency not to trust and to be a lil paranoid . No , I'm not saying that he is paranoid , just sometimes a bit high-strung . Which dog people can be . But dogs do ALWAYS defend and stand up for the underdog and / or justice . Prince is just who he is , and his status in music makes his natural qualities and tendencies even that more accentuated .
Well me saying that I meant that before he wasn`t religous or as religous...now that he has more...how do you say..morals i guess but he seems to be changed more but i agree about the gemini thing. Prince is forever changing...all i am saying is look how much hes changed since the "Purple Rain" days. but yeah it is human nature thing as we get older we become more mature (in most cases) His music has changed with his new religion as well | |
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michaelJ said: Like a shit
Especially when they don't cater to his inflated ego due to his Napoleon Complex.. | |
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as far as the title thread, i have always heard good things about his interaction with the fans in person. | |
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icke4presidant said:[quote] purplonia said: Look what happened to housequake. Prince is still a selfish, controlling person. There's no love in his heart for his fellow man/woman unless they follow his dogma; hence 'the banished ones' Don't you think you are over-exaggerating about someone you do not know? So I guess Sheila E follows his dogma or he has no love for her? What about Tavis Smiley who himself mentions P and him are very good friends. Who are his personal friends? Every single one of them follow his dogma? How could you testify that he has no love for anybody? What about some of his band members who have been around him for years and speak so highly of him. I just need to have more details on his inside personal life to understand this statement of him having no love for anybody unless they follow his dogma. [Edited 6/21/07 18:07pm] | |
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SamanthaDawn said: wow.
I am amazed at how many "fans" hate Prince. You hate him but you supprt him by buying his music? He's a horrible person but spend hundreds of dollars to see or hear him? Yep you're a true fan, talking trash about someone you don't even really know. Yeah people have said negative things about him but they've said negative things about everyone. It's called gossip, the only people who really know are the ones who know him and none of us do. Why are people his fans if they hate him? I'm sure he'd be nice unless you were trying to annoy him unless he was having a bad day. ANd no one is nice when they are having bad days! NO ONE! Thank u Samantha 
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icke4presidant said: SamanthaDawn said: wow.
I am amazed at how many "fans" hate Prince. You hate him but you supprt him by buying his music? He's a horrible person but spend hundreds of dollars to see or hear him? Yep you're a true fan, talking trash about someone you don't even really know. Yeah people have said negative things about him but they've said negative things about everyone. It's called gossip, the only people who really know are the ones who know him and none of us do. Why are people his fans if they hate him? I'm sure he'd be nice unless you were trying to annoy him unless he was having a bad day. ANd no one is nice when they are having bad days! NO ONE! You need to grow up and stop worshipping prince. Most people become a fan of the music before they find out about the person. As Prince's engineer said don't meet or find out about your heros or fav artists. Stating facts about someone behaviour is not gossip. The cheating on gfs, telling them what to do etc is fact not gossip. People have witnessed it. Price was rude to several artists who tried to engage in conversation and i could say the same for fans. The engineer who worked with Prince for a few years said he treats people really bad. Jess johnson called him an asshole. Andre fell out with him. hE fired jimmy and lewis. Insulted and degraded W & L. Nona gaye said he played with her head for three years ; the list goes on and on. JUST get real and realise this. The music is immense though and despite the person it's hard to keep away from the art. HATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATE Jeez!!! | |
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purplonia said: icke4presidant said: You need to grow up and stop worshipping prince. Most people become a fan of the music before they find out about the person. As Prince's engineer said don't meet or find out about your heros or fav artists. Stating facts about someone behaviour is not gossip. The cheating on gfs, telling them what to do etc is fact not gossip. People have witnessed it. Price was rude to several artists who tried to engage in conversation and i could say the same for fans. The engineer who worked with Prince for a few years said he treats people really bad. Jess johnson called him an asshole. Andre fell out with him. hE fired jimmy and lewis. Insulted and degraded W & L. Nona gaye said he played with her head for three years ; the list goes on and on. JUST get real and realise this. The music is immense though and despite the person it's hard to keep away from the art. don`t you think though hes changed over the years? i mean its possible now that hes now religous and all i do beleive though he could`ve been a jerk in the past but in the present i think hes a changed person He's ALWAYS been religious. As we both said anyone can behave like a jerk here & there. Prince has. I have. U have. & i think anyone in HIS position (famous, rich, misunderstood, criticized, sex-symbol...) has. | |
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icke4presidant said: purplonia said: don`t you think though hes changed over the years? i mean its possible now that hes now religous and all i do beleive though he could`ve been a jerk in the past but in the present i think hes a changed person Religion makes someone a better person
Yes he's less angry certainly and more sociable. Mani left him and his sexist rants on some of the one nite alone tours were disgusting. He treated kevin smith really bad and kevin said Prince was ranting about the religious heirachy; god>man>women>animals. The way he left mayte was horrible. Look what happened to housequake. Prince is still a selfish, controlling person. There's no love in his heart for his fellow man/woman unless they follow his dogma; hence 'the banished ones' U really are a manipulating & dishonest person!!! As u probably have, i've read Kevin Smith's testimony as it was reported here on the org back then. So what? Prince asked 4 a film, wasn't clear on what he wanted, was a bit eccentric, had Kevin Smith work 4 a documentary which never surfaced, Kevin was a bit frustrated & then moved on his next project after one week lost with Prine... Yeah right, that really makes Prince a monster, doesn't it? U also mentioned Michael B. before. Be answered 2 DOZENS of questions here on the org last year. Did he ONCE say that Prince was a bad person? Nope! Yes he was frustrated from being fired (who wouldn't?) Yes he said that Prince should have been more strict with the Gameboyz when they dissed Rosie (who wasn't a coward once when it comes 2 interfere with other's relationships?) but he also said that prince himself was always perfectly respectful of Rosie or any other woman involved. Yes he said prince would ask u 2 come & play at any time (it was part of the job, a job Michael could have left whenever he wanted.) Yes he was sometimes a bit angry when Michael or another musician made a mistake on stage (it's part of being the boss) But saying that Michael said Prince was a bastard as u said he did is just LIE so i say it, u ARE a liar. | |
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icke4presidant said: The way he left mayte was horrible. WHAT???!!! It's Mayte who left him! | |
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KidaDynamite said: brocklynn said: If you do get up close to Prince, don't put your hand on his shoulder!
 WHY? A big man will push you away, and you end up feeling really stupid. | |
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