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Thread started 03/19/07 12:27pm

omnithanos

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What happened to the new Videos DVD?

It was a sticky a couple of days ago. New DVD on sale from 12/3 both in HMV and on Play.com. Was this available at HMV in Ireland?
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Reply #1 posted 03/19/07 12:33pm

dolphin1974

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Yes where has this thread gone?
It is available through HMV UK and Amazon UK and for a bargain price of £5.49!
I've ordered mine already...
"Playing hard to get is getting hard to play".
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Reply #2 posted 03/19/07 12:42pm

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the last few messages on that thread were talking about it possibly being a bootleg that slipped thru to retail- maybe that has something to do with it???
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Reply #3 posted 03/19/07 1:08pm

metalorange

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paisley16 said:

the last few messages on that thread were talking about it possibly being a bootleg that slipped thru to retail- maybe that has something to do with it???


I think that must be it, although I don't know why - it's not our fault if official stores have slipped up and allowed bootlegs to be sold via them. It isn't against Org rules to talk about them, only you can't say where to buy them - but if it is an official store, I don't see that rule applies. Until HMV or whoever takes action, they're legal.

Also I think there is some confusion as there seems to be 2 DVDs going round with Prince videos on, one with 17 videos on it and one with 25!
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Reply #4 posted 03/19/07 4:21pm

pacey68

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paisley16 said:

the last few messages on that thread were talking about it possibly being a bootleg that slipped thru to retail- maybe that has something to do with it???


I think that must be it, although I don't know why - it's not our fault if official stores have slipped up and allowed bootlegs to be sold via them. It isn't against Org rules to talk about them, only you can't say where to buy them - but if it is an official store, I don't see that rule applies. Until HMV or whoever takes action, they're legal.

Also I think there is some confusion as there seems to be 2 DVDs going round with Prince videos on, one with 17 videos on it and one with 25!

There is only one dvd, just some confusion about the number of tracks. I have a copy and there are actually 29 tracks.
You are probably correct in assuming the thread was snipped because of it being a boot. I have seen the continuity errors and mistakes on the track listing which confirms it for me. Therefore the mods would have had no choice but to close the thread because people were discussing where to purchase it which is against forum rules and could land the org in a lot of trouble legally.
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Reply #5 posted 03/20/07 3:46am

metalorange

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pacey68 said:

There is only one dvd, just some confusion about the number of tracks. I have a copy and there are actually 29 tracks.
You are probably correct in assuming the thread was snipped because of it being a boot. I have seen the continuity errors and mistakes on the track listing which confirms it for me. Therefore the mods would have had no choice but to close the thread because people were discussing where to purchase it which is against forum rules and could land the org in a lot of trouble legally.


It's wierd because you would think that the only people who would put a bootleg Prince DVD together would be fans of Prince who have sought out these videos in good quality - yet you would also expect them to be knowledgeable enough not to make such continuity errors and mistakes! Even if they weren't fans just business people, you would have expected them to do a minimal bit of research and get the tracklisting names right.

As has been said previously, if it isn't produced by either Prince or Warners then it surely must be a bootleg, however I don't think the Org should be concerned with that as it is being sold in official stores and who knows, maybe there is some legal loophole that allows them to produce such a video. At the very least I think the Moderators should keep this thread open and only SNIP when someone mentions an address to get it from, which is not allowed, rather than bullishly deleting the whole thread, which is mainly just a discussion about this new dvd and which is allowed by the rules.

I don't think you are correct saying there is only one dvd, from what I have seen and heard from people, there are 2 very different DVDs doing the rounds with different tracklists with differing total times, one is this:

1. Let's Pretend We're Married
2. Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad
3. Uptown
4. Girls And Boys
5. Raspberry Beret
6. Anotherloverholenyohead (Live)
7. Betcha By Golly Wow
8. Dinner With Delores
9. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
10. Kiss
11. Insatiable
12. Money Don't Matter 2 Night
13. I Wish U Heaven
14. Thieves In The Temple
15. Gett Off
16. I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (Live)
17. Cream

runtime: 57minutes

and then this one with these tracks:

Kiss
Let's Pretend
Red Corvette
Alphabet Street
Money Don't Matter
Power Generation
Dirty Mind
Girls and Boys
Raspberry Beret
Sexuality
Controversy
Your Man
Thieves
Uptown
Automatic
Wannabe Your Lover
Glam Slam
Why you Wanna
You got the look
Another Lover
Get Off
Cream
Diamonds & Pearls
1999
America

runtime: 2hours 7minutes.
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Reply #6 posted 03/20/07 6:37am

Tornik101

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Just picked up a copy at HMV in Edinburgh - still at work just now, so I won't get a chance to watch it until later tonight, but I'll post a quick review of the quality when I'm able.

For the record, the track listing on this DVD is as follows:

Kiss
Let's Pretend
Red Corvette
Alphabet Street
Money Don't Matter
Power Generation
Dirty Mind
Girls and Boys
Raspberry Beret
Sexuality
Controversy
Your Man
Thieves
Uptown
Automatic
Wannabe Your Lover
Glam Slam
Why you Wanna
You got the look
Another Lover
Get Off
Cream
Diamonds & Pearls
1999
America
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Reply #7 posted 03/20/07 2:30pm

omnithanos

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Didn't have it in HMV here today. Sometimes the good stuff doesn't make it all the way over to Ireland so I ordered it online just to be on the safe side. The HMV version seems to be the better of the two with 8 more tracks and play.com are out of stock at the moment anyway.
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Reply #8 posted 03/20/07 5:10pm

HotPaisleyGirl

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I saw a whole stack of them for sale in HMV Reading today, but I chose to buy UTCM instead
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Reply #9 posted 03/21/07 4:32am

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Okay, quick review after watching the DVD yesterday afternoon. Per my previous post, the tracklisting on the back of the DVD case is as follows:

Kiss
Let's Pretend
Red Corvette
Alphabet Street
Money Don't Matter
Power Generation
Dirty Mind
Girls and Boys
Raspberry Beret
Sexuality
Controversy
Your Man
Thieves
Uptown
Automatic
Wannabe Your Lover
Glam Slam
Why you Wanna
You got the look
Another Lover
Get Off
Cream
Diamonds & Pearls
1999
America

However, the track listing on the DVD itself is a little different. In the DVD menu, the tracks are listed in the following order:

Raspberry Beret
Peach (Live) - is actually America
Girls and Boys
Mountains - is the colours version, not the black and white version from UTCM
Kiss
Anotherloverholenyohead (Live)
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (Live) - sound quality on this is on a par with the recent SOTT remastered DVD
U Got The Look - sound quality as above
Alphabet Street
I Wish U Heaven - the brightness on this video seems to have been ramped to the max, as it's really difficult to see anything clearly. I've only seen this video once or twice on TV however, so maybe it's supposed to be that way?
Glam Slam
Partyman
New Power Generation - good God, I's almostmanaged to forget how bad this song is...
Thieves In The Temple
Gett Off
Cream - the version from the Hits DVD
Insatiable
Diamonds and Pearls
Money Don't Matter 2 Night - the 'performance' version, not the full Spike Lee cut.
I Wanna Be Your Lover
Uptown
Dirty Mind
Controversy
Sexuality
Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad?
1999
Little Red Corvette
Let's Pretend We're Married
Automatic

Overall, the video and sound quality is fine. Regardless of the legality, the presentation of the DVD feel distinctly amatuerish, from the quality of the DVD cover insert, to the fact that none of the track listings correspond, to the apparently random order of the tracks themselves.
Still, for only eight pounds, it would be churlish to complain too much.
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Reply #10 posted 03/21/07 6:39am

JudasSmile

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I thought I'd pick this up before it is withdrawn. It's not bad for eight quid - 29 videos in all - the quality isn't great on some of them, but then many of the videos have never been remastered for DVD.

I would love to see a 'complete' Prince promo video boxset. All the videos (including alternative/extended versions) in chronological order with liner notes. I think it would have to be done alongside Prince though, as he is rumoured to have dozens of unreleased promo videos, even of songs we have never heard of.
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U been bamboozled, hoodwinked, took.
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Reply #11 posted 03/21/07 3:15pm

dolphin1974

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Tornik101 said:

Okay, quick review after watching the DVD yesterday afternoon. Per my previous post, the tracklisting on the back of the DVD case is as follows:

Kiss
Let's Pretend
Red Corvette
Alphabet Street
Money Don't Matter
Power Generation
Dirty Mind
Girls and Boys
Raspberry Beret
Sexuality
Controversy
Your Man
Thieves
Uptown
Automatic
Wannabe Your Lover
Glam Slam
Why you Wanna
You got the look
Another Lover
Get Off
Cream
Diamonds & Pearls
1999
America

However, the track listing on the DVD itself is a little different. In the DVD menu, the tracks are listed in the following order:

Raspberry Beret
Peach (Live) - is actually America
Girls and Boys
Mountains - is the colours version, not the black and white version from UTCM
Kiss
Anotherloverholenyohead (Live)
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (Live) - sound quality on this is on a par with the recent SOTT remastered DVD
U Got The Look - sound quality as above
Alphabet Street
I Wish U Heaven - the brightness on this video seems to have been ramped to the max, as it's really difficult to see anything clearly. I've only seen this video once or twice on TV however, so maybe it's supposed to be that way?
Glam Slam
Partyman
New Power Generation - good God, I's almostmanaged to forget how bad this song is...
Thieves In The Temple
Gett Off
Cream - the version from the Hits DVD
Insatiable
Diamonds and Pearls
Money Don't Matter 2 Night - the 'performance' version, not the full Spike Lee cut.
I Wanna Be Your Lover
Uptown
Dirty Mind
Controversy
Sexuality
Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad?
1999
Little Red Corvette
Let's Pretend We're Married
Automatic

Overall, the video and sound quality is fine. Regardless of the legality, the presentation of the DVD feel distinctly amatuerish, from the quality of the DVD cover insert, to the fact that none of the track listings correspond, to the apparently random order of the tracks themselves.
Still, for only eight pounds, it would be churlish to complain too much.


Just one question...is the Partyman video the full or cut version? I know some people were disappointed only the cut version made it to the recent remastered Batman DVD and were crying out for the better, fuller version.
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Reply #12 posted 03/21/07 3:25pm

JudasSmile

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Partyman is the short version, as is Thieves in the Temple.
U been bamboozled, hoodwinked, took.
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Reply #13 posted 03/21/07 3:36pm

dolphin1974

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JudasSmile said:

Partyman is the short version, as is Thieves in the Temple.


...awww crap.
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