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Reply #90 posted 02/05/07 10:48pm

Efan

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RobDogg27 said:

Ok, now here is my serious post.
So I spent a long time on Youtube today defending the whole pre-recorded thing. But something I just saw literally made me sick to my stomach! At the part in The Best Of U right before his guitar solo when he grabs the mic and screams; two LOUD palm mutes come across on the speakers while he still has both hands on the mic and is still screaming! eek confused

Look, everything else points to it being live; the few bum notes in PR, not getting back to the mic on the first solo from LGC, the wireless going out at the end of PR! It all adds up to it being live except for that one part! Did he sing live but pre-record the guitar parts? I really don't want to think so and I hope not. But that one second has me really wondering!

As far as I can tell my downloaded version's sound is in sync with the video. Please someone tell me I have a bad version or somehting, anything that makes sense! I don't think he would do that, especially on something as big as the Super Bowl! But as much as a control freak and perfectionist that he is he just might do it. But then why recorded sloppy solos? I mean the feeling was there but by far not his most technically proficient performance. But who would expect that live in the pouring rain? Or was it live? I have to go search out other versions now hoping that mine has been tampered with! pray

Please someone tell me I am wrong! sad


I didn't notice the clap sound, but I did think the "woo-ooh-oooh-oooh" parts in Purple Rain sounded awfully good--which made me wonder if that was really coming from the crowd or was a special effect. At a couple points, as I recall, Prince hadn't even "suggested" to the crowd that they sing the "woo-hoo" part--they just did it on their own, perfectly in unison and sounding very, very good. I still think the concert was live, but parts of it seemed to be added in.
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Reply #91 posted 02/05/07 10:49pm

Orionforever

I Posted this on the regular Prince thing.. but they
said to post it over here... not sure why.. it is NOT to do
with the super bowl.. just talk about After the Super bowl.. but
what ever.

Well I knew it would happen.. the talk shows are playing off
Princes Great performance.
Leno made a comment like "Did you see Prince at the Super Bowl out
there playing the guitar in the rain.. Heck, he should of just stood
there with a lightening rod..."
and then he commented about If you watched Prince on one of those huge
big Screen TV's he would be almost life size
(((these are not Exact words what was said.. but close)))

Then.. our "buddy" Lettermen made several comments about him in
his opening.. And then Prince was #1 on the Top Ten List
Catagory.. Top Ten Excuses by the Chicago Bears...
#1 The Bears were all too worried about sharing a Locker room
with Prince.....

Oh. and then Lettermen talked about Prince performing in the rain
and he showed a clip of Prince singing and then there was a little
"explosion" type thing and Prince was gone..

I am sure there will be more comments throughout the week

But.. when Leno and Lettermen said "Did you see Prince do the Half time
show.. both crowds really cheered loudly for our boy!!
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Reply #92 posted 02/05/07 11:00pm

Snap

SynthiaRose said:

I'm just posting here to say how much I hate these damn stickies.
This system doesn't encourage fine points of discussion, just general spewing.

A thread was locked about the lightning and how it seemed a part of Prince's show but was really "from the Heavens." And you know, I thought while watching the show ... is that fake lightning or real ...because it was perfect ... but that thread was locked and the poster sent here to the garbage umbrella thread.

Then, another person tried to ask did we hear PRince on the radio since the superbowl. That was locked too. I'd like to know.

I was going to ask if everyone saw the article on how Prince's sales at Amazon.com had skyrocketed, but of course that would just be locked and sent here too.

But you know I don't feel like really 1,588 reponses on a sticky to see if that's been mentioned. Esp. since this part doesn't even have the feature of taking members to the last read post.

I really miss the days of org conversations, where big topics could be broken into finer strains of thought. Sticky, dump threads are counter to the instincts of conversation. People just come ...dump and go.

I'm sure this post will go too. neutral


I agree as well. I would've loved to've heard more discussion on many of those locked threads. I have my own questions to ask, but I'm not going to do it here. All is lost in these humongous piles of sticky posts. I guess we'll have to wait before we can move on to the specifics, eh?
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Reply #93 posted 02/05/07 11:03pm

Snap

Orionforever said:

I Posted this on the regular Prince thing.. but they
said to post it over here... not sure why.. it is NOT to do
with the super bowl.. just talk about After the Super bowl.. but
what ever.

Well I knew it would happen.. the talk shows are playing off
Princes Great performance.
Leno made a comment like "Did you see Prince at the Super Bowl out
there playing the guitar in the rain.. Heck, he should of just stood
there with a lightening rod..."
and then he commented about If you watched Prince on one of those huge
big Screen TV's he would be almost life size
(((these are not Exact words what was said.. but close)))

Then.. our "buddy" Lettermen made several comments about him in
his opening.. And then Prince was #1 on the Top Ten List
Catagory.. Top Ten Excuses by the Chicago Bears...
#1 The Bears were all too worried about sharing a Locker room
with Prince.....

Oh. and then Lettermen talked about Prince performing in the rain
and he showed a clip of Prince singing and then there was a little
"explosion" type thing and Prince was gone..

I am sure there will be more comments throughout the week

But.. when Leno and Lettermen said "Did you see Prince do the Half time
show.. both crowds really cheered loudly for our boy!!


I brought up the half-time today with a couple friends and the first thing both of them talked about was the doo-rag and how they thought he was wearing it to cover up the lines on his forehead from getting plastic surgery because he hasn't aged a bit in the last 20 years. Both of these friends are Prince fans but neither of them said anything about the performance. sigh
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Reply #94 posted 02/05/07 11:08pm

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From down under I love it he was awesome.

Love the foo fighter cover (cool)

Try to get on here just after the bowl but my browser was not lettin me.

Thanks to all u guys in america if it wasn't for the information I received from this site I would have never known so thanks Mates.
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Reply #95 posted 02/05/07 11:28pm

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Letterman likes to slag off on people who he feels won't come on his show. He did the same thing with Stallone when the last Rocky movie came out. Prince and Stallone haven't been on Letterman's show in years. Leno has had both on his show several times over the last few years. I like Letterman, but his attitude about this is very immature.
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Reply #96 posted 02/06/07 12:38am

June7

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RobDogg27 said:

Please someone tell me I am wrong! sad


You're wrong.

Prince is one of the few artists that goes out of his way to champion the LIVE performance. Often putting out press releases and general statements or references such as to "goin' back to school" and "musicology". For those who do pre-record, he has slammed them time and again.

For this master musician to fall back and allow pre-recording of any of his performance is so not Prince.

People need to either recognize his brilliance in performing and his perfectionism in his guitar mastering... even though he slipped a couple times during the performance, I challenge anyone to mention a better live performance under the conditions that Prince played in.

To put it bluntly: He fucking rocked the stadium better than anyone. period. People can't fault his performance, so they question his abilities. It's getting old.

Prince outplayed, outperformed and outfunked everyone. Prince - nothing compares 2 u. nod
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

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Reply #97 posted 02/06/07 12:51am

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The show was great. Purple Rain; in the rain. What more could you want?

Everyone at my college was talking about it today, and they aren't even Prince fans. "Man did you see Prince during the Superbowl? He tore it up man". Even critics seem to be getting off on it. Some even call it the best halftime show ever.

I can't argue with 'em. I'd give the title of best half time show to Michael Jackson except he lip-synched his.
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Reply #98 posted 02/06/07 1:13am

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I know that a while before the event some people here wondered if together with Prince this year's SB would beat the one with Michael Jackson in terms of ratings... the answer is: Yes! razz

"Super Bowl XLI partied like it was 1999. And not just because of Prince.

Sunday's big-game telecast on CBS pulled in the highest ratings since 1999's Super Bowl XXXIV, and scored the second-biggest Super Bowl audience ever, averaging 93.2 million party-chip enthusiasts, Nielsen Media Research stats showed.

In the annals of TV history, CBS noted, Super Bowl XLI will go down as the third most watched program ever, behind the final episode of M*A*S*H* (106 million, in 1983) and Super Bowl XXX (94.1 million, in 1995)."
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source: http://www.eonline.com/ne...ee77574b74
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Reply #99 posted 02/06/07 1:14am

MikeMatronik

Does anyone know the info on the backup singer that is dressed in white? She has a massive voice! biggrin
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Reply #100 posted 02/06/07 1:51am

Christopher

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DanceWme said:

thekidsgirl said:

Remember when Prince threw out his doo-rag?
Well bidders get ready...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Princ...dZViewItem

lol



"It still even smells like hairspray and sweat." lol


aww hell naw! that is so NASTY!






















bids high lurking
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Reply #101 posted 02/06/07 2:04am

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MikeMatronik said:

Does anyone know the info on the backup singer that is dressed in white? She has a massive voice! biggrin


http://www.myspace.com/shelbyblackgypsy
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Reply #102 posted 02/06/07 2:43am

MikeMatronik

redflag said:

MikeMatronik said:

Does anyone know the info on the backup singer that is dressed in white? She has a massive voice! biggrin


http://www.myspace.com/shelbyblackgypsy


thanks, redflag! cool
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Reply #103 posted 02/06/07 2:49am

leecaldon

HereToRockYourWorld said:

SynthiaRose said:

I'm just posting here to say how much I hate these damn stickies.
This system doesn't encourage fine points of discussion, just general spewing.

A thread was locked about the lightning and how it seemed a part of Prince's show but was really "from the Heavens." And you know, I thought while watching the show ... is that fake lightning or real ...because it was perfect ... but that thread was locked and the poster sent here to the garbage umbrella thread.

Then, another person tried to ask did we hear PRince on the radio since the superbowl. That was locked too. I'd like to know.

I was going to ask if everyone saw the article on how Prince's sales at Amazon.com had skyrocketed, but of course that would just be locked and sent here too.

But you know I don't feel like really 1,588 reponses on a sticky to see if that's been mentioned. Esp. since this part doesn't even have the feature of taking members to the last read post.

I really miss the days of org conversations, where big topics could be broken into finer strains of thought. Sticky, dump threads are counter to the instincts of conversation. People just come ...dump and go.

I'm sure this post will go too. neutral



AGREED.


Agreed.
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Reply #104 posted 02/06/07 2:57am

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RobDogg27 said:

Ok, now here is my serious post.
So I spent a long time on Youtube today defending the whole pre-recorded thing. But something I just saw literally made me sick to my stomach! At the part in The Best Of U right before his guitar solo when he grabs the mic and screams; two LOUD palm mutes come across on the speakers while he still has both hands on the mic and is still screaming! eek confused

Look, everything else points to it being live; the few bum notes in PR, not getting back to the mic on the first solo from LGC, the wireless going out at the end of PR! It all adds up to it being live except for that one part! Did he sing live but pre-record the guitar parts? I really don't want to think so and I hope not. But that one second has me really wondering!

As far as I can tell my downloaded version's sound is in sync with the video. Please someone tell me I have a bad version or somehting, anything that makes sense! I don't think he would do that, especially on something as big as the Super Bowl! But as much as a control freak and perfectionist that he is he just might do it. But then why recorded sloppy solos? I mean the feeling was there but by far not his most technically proficient performance. But who would expect that live in the pouring rain? Or was it live? I have to go search out other versions now hoping that mine has been tampered with! pray

Please someone tell me I am wrong! sad


I've looked repeatedly at the point you're talking about during Best Of You, but to me it looks perfectly fine and live, the guitar sounds stop when he takes his hands off apart from a bit of feedback undercurrent.

As you yourself point out, if he had pre-recorded the solos, they would have been perfect, but because of the conditions on the night, they were not. This was live. I think because of the distortion effects he uses with his guitars, sometimes there are slight delays in the reverb that make some think the pictures are not in sync and he's miming, but this is not so. I think perhaps some of the chants were pre-recorded, but that is it.

Prince is just that good live. But even if he had pre-recorded it, it would still be Prince doing those solos and he would still be the great guitarist!
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Reply #105 posted 02/06/07 3:32am

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sag10 said:

obsessed said:

Was anyone else touched by his bow and "thank you" at the end?
He seemed genuinely moved by the audience approval...very cool..


I think this picture says it all.



this has gotta go on my favourites list
love how he isnt putting on that show-man front
he looks so innocent, so honest and pure
alot of integrity in it

something real deep definately going on in his mind
You saw the apple
hanging on the tree,
But missed the orchid
in your gaze
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Reply #106 posted 02/06/07 3:34am

MartyMcFly

Dunno if this has been posted yet....

http://www.nytimes.com/20...ref=slogin
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Reply #107 posted 02/06/07 4:08am

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Reply #108 posted 02/06/07 4:11am

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Mo Rocca, guest columnist for USA Today while he was in Miami for the Super Bowl, comments in today's edition of USA Today (Feb. 6 in LIFE section, D2).

Paraphrasing here, he thought the Prince halftime show was excellent, "high art Americana." He especially loved the Florida A & M Marching 100 with Prince. He called it a mix of "George Clinton and John Philip Sousa."
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Reply #109 posted 02/06/07 4:22am

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metalorange said:

Once again with feeling, the lightning effect was a visual effect on top of the tv pictures, not real.

Believe it or not, there are people out there who believe that Prince was miming the performance to a pre-recorded tape - huh?! I suppose he pre-recorded not getting back to the mic in time to sing some lyrics too, then, and pre-recorded some blurry notes on guitar for realistic effect...

People criticise him for playing his big hits all the time. Let's Go Crazy is just one of the greatest opener songs ever made, just think of all the acts and bands that would love a song like this to kick off concerts with, and here we are moaning. Baby I'm A Star wasn't even a single, was it? It's actually just an album track, a famous album track for hard-core fans, but still just an album track.

It seems somewhat strange the extent people are raving about the Purple Rain finale, when I would say he has played far better versions. It always feels rushed to me when he truncates it so much; more so this time because the radio signal from the guitar or something gave out after he knocked his mic over and you could barely hear his final notes, and even if you had he ended it very abruptly for a song which just transcends the longer it goes on. Yes, there was the rain and occasion which gave it a lot of atmosphere, but give me the the old '85 AMA version or the one played at the Brits anytime.

Still, it is hard to think of any acts these days who could both sing as well as Prince in front of such a huge audience never mind play half-a-doxen guitar solos the likes of which would put a grin on any rock fan's face.

I'm a huge Zeppelin fan, and post regularly on a Zeppelin site, so I was curious to see what the people there might say about Prince and his performance. There's a thread there that someone started with this title:

"Superbowl half-time show.....

was probably better than the game!"


and then the majority of people posting on it agreed. nod They all seemed to think it was a great performance, which I thought was cool of course being the resident Prince fan there. cool

Some people said they were casual fans of the man, some said they weren't even fans, but mostly ALL agreed that it was awesome. woot! So yes, rock fans were impressed.


Well, except for one guy who posted: "Worst Superbowl half time show EVER! At least we were spared another JustinTimberlake&Aerosmith-esqe type hodge podge of crappola. I would almost preffer to see a bunch of American Idol reject than what went on today." confused

But then he IS one of the biggest idiots on that site, so I really can't take anything he says seriously. lol
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Reply #110 posted 02/06/07 4:44am

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metalorange said:

Once again with feeling, the lightning effect was a visual effect on top of the tv pictures, not real.

Believe it or not, there are people out there who believe that Prince was miming the performance to a pre-recorded tape - huh?! I suppose he pre-recorded not getting back to the mic in time to sing some lyrics too, then, and pre-recorded some blurry notes on guitar for realistic effect...

People criticise him for playing his big hits all the time. Let's Go Crazy is just one of the greatest opener songs ever made, just think of all the acts and bands that would love a song like this to kick off concerts with, and here we are moaning. Baby I'm A Star wasn't even a single, was it? It's actually just an album track, a famous album track for hard-core fans, but still just an album track.

It seems somewhat strange the extent people are raving about the Purple Rain finale, when I would say he has played far better versions. It always feels rushed to me when he truncates it so much; more so this time because the radio signal from the guitar or something gave out after he knocked his mic over and you could barely hear his final notes, and even if you had he ended it very abruptly for a song which just transcends the longer it goes on. Yes, there was the rain and occasion which gave it a lot of atmosphere, but give me the the old '85 AMA version or the one played at the Brits anytime.

Still, it is hard to think of any acts these days who could both sing as well as Prince in front of such a huge audience never mind play half-a-doxen guitar solos the likes of which would put a grin on any rock fan's face.



I know it was a live performance and I LOVED every second of it BUT I do understand why people think it was a playback ...even I thought that for a second because the "go go go " chants during Let´s Go Crazy made it look so. Sure , know I know it was just some kind of backing voice but it DID look weird when he wasn´t singing at all and you could still hear the chants and parts of the chorus, but , you know, he also used a lot of voice and singing samples during his 95 gigs, so it´s all good.

Great performance...I was seriously moved.
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Reply #111 posted 02/06/07 5:01am

HollywoodSt

Finally saw it and loved it. A fantastic spectacle and the guitar solo in Purple Rain leading to the crowd singing along had the hairs on the back of my neck standing up.

Great stuff.

Bring on a new album.
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Reply #112 posted 02/06/07 5:27am

lovebird

The show was wonderful. Prince played what the whole world knew plus let everyone see there is more to him then Purple Rain. He can perform anything! Playing in the rain with such perfection only showed what a truly great artist Prince is
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Reply #113 posted 02/06/07 5:34am

dseann

Loved the performance and no one could call this half time show boring like the last two yawn fests produced by the superbowl.
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Reply #114 posted 02/06/07 5:39am

dseann

VenusBlingBling said:

I hope the person who wrote this over at youtube was kidding confused

telemarker77
"thanks for posting this, every year i try and watch, or shall i say rewatch the stupor bowl half time as its a sign of american cultural degradation. i guess the theme this year, is satanic symbology and transgender role models. very discordant and awful music. vulgar, profane. if they wanted a soul artist they could have picked someone like wynton marsallies with talent to play taps, or amazing grace wrt to katrina and the war. who cares about this sexual deviant. sad. "


This person must be a Saints fan.

Play Taps? For the Superbowl Halftime show? Must be from New Orleans.
WTF?
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Reply #115 posted 02/06/07 5:41am

dseann

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Prince hasn't made me grin that silly grin of "wooooow" in many years but today I'm still grinning... Prince, I promise not to pick on you for a good while.

I'd take a 15 rocking show like that over 3 hours of horns and jazz ANY time and if I'd had the dough I'd GLADLY go to Vegas for that 15 min show. That's how impressed I was, and am. Even a friend of mine who hates his guts told me he got goosebumps from his guitar playing. Prince, once again you have kicked my ass. worship touched


Do you realize he played alot of those notes with just his left hand?]
Fucking amazing.
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Reply #116 posted 02/06/07 5:48am

dseann

carlcranshaw said:

BananaCologne said:



Please tell me you don't actually believe that! lol

It was nothing more than a VFX cue.

Cool though, definately cool.


No man, watch it again. If you look really close you'll see a big thumbs up from the heavens. The stars made that symbol thingee shape for 5 seconds. You have to look really close. And drink a couple of beers as you look.

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Reply #117 posted 02/06/07 5:52am

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PicassoFace said:

More Superbowl half-time Controversy

Anyone watch Countdown with Keith Olbermann? The show closed with a discussion of Prince's "getting away" with being dirty. Apparently, there's a small group of folks who think Prince's rendition of "Purple Rain" with Habibi and the silhouette was laced with sexual innuendo in the form of suggestive guitar posturing.

For one thing, Prince has pretty much used Habibi for all of his renditions of "Purple Rain" in the last few years. He didn't deliberately use that guitar to do something suggestive. And for another, Prince plays with his guitar in that position a lot (and he does so with the two other guitars he used in the set, as well). I think it's a coincidence that the camera angles caught what could be considered suggestive posturing, but I don't think it was intentional.

What y'all think?
[Edited 2/5/07 18:16pm]



I think it was a brilliant and entertaining performance.
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Reply #118 posted 02/06/07 6:30am

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I'm sure I heard the beginning of "Splash" in the coda of Purple Rain with the Piano Slide.

Someone verify this?

Probably one of his greatest television performances ever.

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Reply #119 posted 02/06/07 8:10am

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metalorange said:

RobDogg27 said:

Ok, now here is my serious post.
So I spent a long time on Youtube today defending the whole pre-recorded thing. But something I just saw literally made me sick to my stomach! At the part in The Best Of U right before his guitar solo when he grabs the mic and screams; two LOUD palm mutes come across on the speakers while he still has both hands on the mic and is still screaming! eek confused

Look, everything else points to it being live; the few bum notes in PR, not getting back to the mic on the first solo from LGC, the wireless going out at the end of PR! It all adds up to it being live except for that one part! Did he sing live but pre-record the guitar parts? I really don't want to think so and I hope not. But that one second has me really wondering!

As far as I can tell my downloaded version's sound is in sync with the video. Please someone tell me I have a bad version or somehting, anything that makes sense! I don't think he would do that, especially on something as big as the Super Bowl! But as much as a control freak and perfectionist that he is he just might do it. But then why recorded sloppy solos? I mean the feeling was there but by far not his most technically proficient performance. But who would expect that live in the pouring rain? Or was it live? I have to go search out other versions now hoping that mine has been tampered with! pray

Please someone tell me I am wrong! sad


I've looked repeatedly at the point you're talking about during Best Of You, but to me it looks perfectly fine and live, the guitar sounds stop when he takes his hands off apart from a bit of feedback undercurrent.

As you yourself point out, if he had pre-recorded the solos, they would have been perfect, but because of the conditions on the night, they were not. This was live. I think because of the distortion effects he uses with his guitars, sometimes there are slight delays in the reverb that make some think the pictures are not in sync and he's miming, but this is not so. I think perhaps some of the chants were pre-recorded, but that is it.

Prince is just that good live. But even if he had pre-recorded it, it would still be Prince doing those solos and he would still be the great guitarist!


I agree. I absolutely think Prince was playing live, but I rewatched my recording last night...there are definitely times when he is only playing on the fretboard with his left hand (which is no big deal for him--Fury anyone?); but people who didn't see his SNL performance (where the guitar "played itself") of course wouldn't understand there is reverb, etc. Was there a rhythm guitarist there or just bassist?
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