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Thread started 01/13/07 6:15pm

Anji

The real him

Taken from DMSR by Per Nilsen, p.221:

'Even though the majority of Sign O' The Times was recorded when Prince was experiencing considerable emotional turmoil, few songs expressed his deepest feelings. "It was typical of Prince, yet kind of surprising", Rogers comments. "There were a lot of things waiting for him to deal with [but] he basically wanted to do happy music. He never quite got that, with the exception of a few songs... It was rare that he opened he door to let us see the real guy".'

Through the years, when, if ever, has Prince let us see the real him?
Are we likely to see more of the real him as he grows older?

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Reply #1 posted 01/13/07 6:17pm

Anx

i think we saw a LOT of the real him during the symbol years and afterward. i think he's worn his heart on his sleeve on more than a few songs since the mid-nineties (and certainly on more than a few songs before then).
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Reply #2 posted 01/13/07 6:17pm

sexxydancer

I don't think we've ever seen the REAL Prince yet.
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Reply #3 posted 01/13/07 8:58pm

wlcm2thdwn

I think some of Emancipation, he was so in love with Mayte that he wore his heart on his sleeve in some of his songs to her!
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Reply #4 posted 01/14/07 7:52am

babynoz

wlcm2thdwn said:

I think some of Emancipation, he was so in love with Mayte that he wore his heart on his sleeve in some of his songs to her!



I agree. He was really open during that time and it was refreshing.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #5 posted 01/14/07 7:58am

r1ghteousone

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Lovesexy and Emancipation are the two, I think, where he let us in...bared his soul, so to speak. Lovesexy because he'd just had an epiphany and wanted everyone to witness this 'spiritual re-awakening' of his, and Emancipation simply because of how much he was in love with Mayte.

IMO though Prince makes his best music when he's pissed off and got a point to prove. shrug
pray love is god, god is love, girls and boys love god above pray
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Reply #6 posted 01/14/07 7:58am

Graycap23

The Real Prince?
What does that mean?
Than man has been here 4 THIRTY Years

If U have not noticed
He has covered all of the bases
From Love 2 lifes biggest Fears

Maybe your problem, if u have one
Is that u are not seeing
The Real Prince?
After 30 years.....
What more do U want from one HUMAN being?
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Reply #7 posted 01/14/07 7:59am

furygirl

sexxydancer said:

I don't think we've ever seen the REAL Prince yet.



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Reply #8 posted 01/14/07 8:01am

Graycap23

sexxydancer said:

I don't think we've ever seen the REAL Prince yet.



Speak 4 yourself. wink
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Reply #9 posted 01/14/07 8:05am

Anx

Graycap23 said:

sexxydancer said:

I don't think we've ever seen the REAL Prince yet.



Speak 4 yourself. wink


heeere we go lol
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Reply #10 posted 01/14/07 8:09am

Graycap23

Anx said:

Graycap23 said:




Speak 4 yourself. wink


heeere we go lol


There u go.....how is your pet?
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Reply #11 posted 01/14/07 8:10am

Anx

Graycap23 said:

Anx said:



heeere we go lol


There u go.....how is your pet?


ask prince biggrin
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Reply #12 posted 01/14/07 8:11am

Graycap23

Anx said:

Graycap23 said:



There u go.....how is your pet?


ask prince biggrin



I'll ask Joe Mama.
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Reply #13 posted 01/14/07 8:42am

babynoz

Graycap23 said:

Anx said:



ask prince biggrin



I'll ask Joe Mama.




STOPPIT! Both of you! lol


I'm one of the few who actually thinks that Prince gives the best of what he has to give of himself at any given time. He has to keep some Prince for Prince and I can't be mad at him for that. I sure as hell ain't an open book all the time. shrug
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #14 posted 01/14/07 9:08am

SexyBeautifulO
ne

babynoz said:

Graycap23 said:




I'll ask Joe Mama.




STOPPIT! Both of you! lol


I'm one of the few who actually thinks that Prince gives the best of what he has to give of himself at any given time. He has to keep some Prince for Prince and I can't be mad at him for that. I sure as hell ain't an open book all the time. shrug


clapping I'm one of those few, too!
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Reply #15 posted 01/14/07 4:09pm

origmnd

I think its all there to be justly interpreted.
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Reply #16 posted 01/14/07 4:28pm

beautifullandb

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I'd say a rare few gets to see his authentic self (I watch way too much Dr.Phil eek ).... he is a very complex person it seems.
What really moved me was watching the interviews with the cast of the Purple Rain movie and the director (his name has slipped my mind) was describing the emotional scene between Prince and his father where his father told him never to get married. The director broke down when explaining that Prince had told him this really happened to him.I had a lump in my throat watching him!
I guess it was his job, but the director really seemed to get into Prince's head and understand him. It was really sad sad
All of me I give 2 thee down at your feet
The reassurance in your rhythm speaks 2 me
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Reply #17 posted 01/14/07 11:05pm

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sexxydancer said:

I don't think we've ever seen the REAL Prince yet.

U R right sexy. He has done a damn good job building his fortress.
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Reply #18 posted 01/14/07 11:06pm

sexxydancer

diana7777 said:

sexxydancer said:

I don't think we've ever seen the REAL Prince yet.

U R right sexy. He has done a damn good job building his fortress.

wink
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Reply #19 posted 01/15/07 12:07am

Heiress

He shows the public what he wants to show us... the rest is not really our business, far as I'm concerned.
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Reply #20 posted 01/15/07 12:19am

MSMARIE2121

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Heiress said:

He shows the public what he wants to show us... the rest is not really our business, far as I'm concerned.


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Reply #21 posted 01/15/07 2:21am

Anji

Heiress said:

He shows the public what he wants to show us... the rest is not really our business, far as I'm concerned.


Heiress, are you curious about the person who makes the music, specifically, what makes him reveal or, as is often the case, conceal his vulnerability through his music?

Does it have to be your business for you to be curious?

love
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Reply #22 posted 01/15/07 2:24am

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Anji said:

Heiress said:

He shows the public what he wants to show us... the rest is not really our business, far as I'm concerned.


Heiress, are you curious about the person who makes the music, specifically, what makes him reveal or, as is often the case, conceal his vulnerability through his music?

Does it have to be your business for you to be curious?

love



Well put.
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Reply #23 posted 01/15/07 2:54am

Heiress

Anji said:

Heiress said:

He shows the public what he wants to show us... the rest is not really our business, far as I'm concerned.


Heiress, are you curious about the person who makes the music, specifically, what makes him reveal or, as is often the case, conceal his vulnerability through his music?

Does it have to be your business for you to be curious?

love


He's revealed so much already about the workings of his mind... how much more do we really need to know?
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Reply #24 posted 01/15/07 5:27am

Anji

Heiress said:

Anji said:



Heiress, are you curious about the person who makes the music, specifically, what makes him reveal or, as is often the case, conceal his vulnerability through his music?

Does it have to be your business for you to be curious?

love


He's revealed so much already about the workings of his mind... how much more do we really need to know?

If you believe the bolded above to be true, are you willing to directly address the question in the original post? i.e. Through the years, when, if ever, has Prince allowed us to see the real him?

love
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Reply #25 posted 01/15/07 5:33am

Heiress

Anji said:

Heiress said:



He's revealed so much already about the workings of his mind... how much more do we really need to know?

If you believe the bolded above to be true, are you willing to directly address the question in the original post? i.e. Through the years, when, if ever, has Prince allowed us to see the real him?

love


I think it's in the nature of the artist to reveal the inner workings of their minds... that is where, after all, the product is coming from.
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Reply #26 posted 01/15/07 6:19am

datdude

Eye Love U But Eye Don't Trust U Anymore to me is a very "real him" moment on wax to me. i agree that his music does give us tremendous insight, but when i saw him perform that song here in Detroit (his last "tour" before the Musicology tour), and i've seen him several times, it was easily the most vulnerable i've ever seen him onstage even. it didn't come off as pretentious or contrived either. not sure where they were in the separation/divorce proceedings at that point but brotha almost broke down.
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Reply #27 posted 01/15/07 6:59am

Anji

Heiress said:

Anji said:


If you believe the bolded above to be true, are you willing to directly address the question in the original post? i.e. Through the years, when, if ever, has Prince allowed us to see the real him?

love


I think it's in the nature of the artist to reveal the inner workings of their minds... that is where, after all, the product is coming from.


Interesting. I wonder how, then, do you interpret what Susan Rogers is quoted as having said by Per Nilson?

'Even though the majority of Sign O' The Times was recorded when Prince was experiencing considerable emotional turmoil, few songs expressed his deepest feelings. "It was typical of Prince, yet kind of surprising", Rogers comments. "There were a lot of things waiting for him to deal with [but] he basically wanted to do happy music. He never quite got that, with the exception of a few songs... It was rare that he opened the door to let us see the real guy".'

Based on this passage, do you still hold that it is in Prince's nature to reveal the inner workings of his mind?

love
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Reply #28 posted 01/15/07 7:00am

Anji

datdude said:

Eye Love U But Eye Don't Trust U Anymore to me is a very "real him" moment on wax to me. i agree that his music does give us tremendous insight, but when i saw him perform that song here in Detroit (his last "tour" before the Musicology tour), and i've seen him several times, it was easily the most vulnerable i've ever seen him onstage even. it didn't come off as pretentious or contrived either. not sure where they were in the separation/divorce proceedings at that point but brotha almost broke down.


Nice response, datdude.

love
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Reply #29 posted 01/15/07 7:45am

Heiress

Anji said:

Heiress said:



I think it's in the nature of the artist to reveal the inner workings of their minds... that is where, after all, the product is coming from.


Interesting. I wonder how, then, do you interpret what Susan Rogers is quoted as having said by Per Nilson?

'Even though the majority of Sign O' The Times was recorded when Prince was experiencing considerable emotional turmoil, few songs expressed his deepest feelings. "It was typical of Prince, yet kind of surprising", Rogers comments. "There were a lot of things waiting for him to deal with [but] he basically wanted to do happy music. He never quite got that, with the exception of a few songs... It was rare that he opened the door to let us see the real guy".'

Based on this passage, do you still hold that it is in Prince's nature to reveal the inner workings of his mind?

love


If he created the music, it came from the inner workings of his mind. If he chooses not to exploit every last bit of his "emotional turmoil," or whatever exactly that means, that is his choice.

I'm sure that his mind contains endless quantities of things that are not readily apparent to the people closest to him. After all, how well can any one of us know any one other person?
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