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Printable sextonseven said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: it still isn't. Yes it is. Maybe not with Prince, but if a small indie band tells their fans that after releasing just two albums, the decision to record a third one all depends on how well the second album sells (this has actually happened to me), then sales figures and recognition definitely affects you as a fan. DEFINITELY. Using that example in real life, if Prince quits or WB drops him after Prince, there is no Dirty Mind. If Purple Rain doesn't blow up, Prince likely doesn't have the same "capital" to burn with the label to branch out and make the successive albums that followed. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: sextonseven said: Yes it is. Maybe not with Prince, but if a small indie band tells their fans that after releasing just two albums, the decision to record a third one all depends on how well the second album sells (this has actually happened to me), then sales figures and recognition definitely affects you as a fan. DEFINITELY. Using that example in real life, if Prince quits or WB drops him after Prince, there is no Dirty Mind. If Purple Rain doesn't blow up, Prince likely doesn't have the same "capital" to burn with the label to branch out and make the successive albums that followed. still doesn't matter to me. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: namepeace said: DEFINITELY. Using that example in real life, if Prince quits or WB drops him after Prince, there is no Dirty Mind. If Purple Rain doesn't blow up, Prince likely doesn't have the same "capital" to burn with the label to branch out and make the successive albums that followed. still doesn't matter to me. It may not matter to you, and it shouldn't if you appreciate the art. But it is relevant to your ability to hear the artist's music. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: still doesn't matter to me. It may not matter to you, and it shouldn't if you appreciate the art. But it is relevant to your ability to hear the artist's music. nope, still irrelevant. sorry. | |
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chunky said: it's a SOLEY PRINCE ALBUM. His voice is simply compforting to me...there's something so mystical about his vocals which not lost by electronic or whatever it is that he does, whether live and on record...HOWEVER!! it remains beutifully succint and magical..something so subtle and delicate i can't describe...
and I love the guitar solo on the 3121 song. The song is like a gift to me it's so special and perfect... a major celebration in my life...like i got married or something! , a highlight and i just want to share the song with others...doesn't it make you feel like the whole world should be listening to this music? i wish everyone could feel this same joy i feel, nobody knows...and i wish they could understand. He just gives me and my life NEW MEANING in an instant... do u understand?! that's...where...the party be. go go go! SORRY tO BREAK IT DOWN LIKE THAT>>.but this is my world too! [Edited 3/30/06 2:40am] [Edited 3/30/06 2:41am] Yes, i overstand. Now go, tell some1. Share this feeling with some 1 else.Every 1 deserves 2 feel this good.That is what it was created 4.Share this wonderful, , never-ending, ever-lasting joy with an empty person. Help fill them up, with this spirit felt music. This is good news. Run tell it on tha mountain, and don't b afraid.I am with u, "we" r with u. This Force is with u.. may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go... | |
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VenusDeMilo9999 said: chunky said: it's a SOLEY PRINCE ALBUM. His voice is simply compforting to me...there's something so mystical about his vocals which not lost by electronic or whatever it is that he does, whether live and on record...HOWEVER!! it remains beutifully succint and magical..something so subtle and delicate i can't describe...
and I love the guitar solo on the 3121 song. The song is like a gift to me it's so special and perfect... a major celebration in my life...like i got married or something! , a highlight and i just want to share the song with others...doesn't it make you feel like the whole world should be listening to this music? i wish everyone could feel this same joy i feel, nobody knows...and i wish they could understand. He just gives me and my life NEW MEANING in an instant... do u understand?! that's...where...the party be. go go go! SORRY tO BREAK IT DOWN LIKE THAT>>.but this is my world too! [Edited 3/30/06 2:40am] [Edited 3/30/06 2:41am] Yes, i overstand. Now go, tell some1. Share this feeling with some 1 else.Every 1 deserves 2 feel this good.That is what it was created 4.Share this wonderful, , never-ending, ever-lasting joy with an empty person. Help fill them up, with this spirit felt music. This is good news. Run tell it on tha mountain, and don't b afraid.I am with u, "we" r with u. This Force is with u.. *looking at the both of you*...what? | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: namepeace said: It may not matter to you, and it shouldn't if you appreciate the art. But it is relevant to your ability to hear the artist's music. nope, still irrelevant. sorry. That couldn't be further from the truth. No record deal -> No records -> No listeners. Plainly relevant. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: namepeace said: It may not matter to you, and it shouldn't if you appreciate the art. But it is relevant to your ability to hear the artist's music. nope, still irrelevant. sorry. You mean you'll hear his music anyway? Oh well why not, if you live close to him... Or are you trying to tell us something? | |
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LillianLaughs said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: nope, still irrelevant. sorry. You mean you'll hear his music anyway? Oh well why not, if you live close to him... Or are you trying to tell us something? obviously. | |
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namepeace said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: nope, still irrelevant. sorry. That couldn't be further from the truth. No record deal -> No records -> No listeners. Plainly relevant. no dice, therefore irrelevant. | |
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About damn time he came out with some good ol rock n roll...prince style of course. Kinda missed it...played my cds to death praying for new stuff!!! | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Fauxie said: You're saying you don't think money makes a difference to the music? Dirty Mind sure sounds different to 3121 doesn't it?
gotta remember though, ol' boy did things a helluva lot more differently back in 1980, and did dm for a perfectly different reason than just to get money alone. Were it not for Purple Rain, Prince's music would sound appreciably different. Because experiencing such commercial success changed his perspective. That's pretty clear. It's not the money that changed the music so much as it was Prince's reaction to success that did. Prince also leveraged his success to expand his artistic ventures. Commercial success for Prince means more or at least different opportunities surely. That is relevant to you as a fan. I'm not saying it's important to you as far as how you rate the music, but it's relevant you as a Prince fan.
it still isn't. It was at one point, not as much today. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: namepeace said: That couldn't be further from the truth. No record deal -> No records -> No listeners. Plainly relevant. no dice, therefore irrelevant. Ha. Refuse to budge, huh? I like your stubborn spirit. Give an inch, they take a mile. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: namepeace said: That couldn't be further from the truth. No record deal -> No records -> No listeners. Plainly relevant. no dice, therefore irrelevant. You wrote the check. Cash it. If this is true, make your case. If you don't do that, then you're only saying 2+2 isn't 4 because you say it isn't, and that dog don't hunt. [Edited 3/30/06 12:55pm] Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: Were it not for Purple Rain, Prince's music would sound appreciably different. Because experiencing such commercial success changed his perspective.
if it didn't happen it very well could have ended up the exact same way. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: namepeace said: That couldn't be further from the truth. No record deal -> No records -> No listeners. Plainly relevant. no dice, therefore irrelevant. But don't you feel that his music (particularly Dirty Mind in your case) helped you through tough times or gave you insight/inspiration/hope/solace/etc.? Wouldn't you miss that album and subsequent ones if they had never been recorded? I, for one, know that Prince's music has been very important in my life- perhaps more than it should be at times. I know that the absence of that music couldn't be filled with that of others because nothing I have heard has moved me the same way 1999 and Lovesexy have. That's not to say I would feel their absence, as I would not know of their existence, but I feel fortunate to have had Prince's music as an integral part of my life. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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namepeace said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: no dice, therefore irrelevant. You wrote the check. Cash it. If this is true, make your case. If you don't do that, then you're only saying 2+2 isn't 4 because you say it isn't, and that dog don't hunt. [Edited 3/30/06 12:55pm] 2 + 2 = 1 mod 3  Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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namepeace said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: no dice, therefore irrelevant. You wrote the check. Cash it. If this is true, make your case. If you don't do that, then you're only saying 2+2 isn't 4 because you say it isn't, and that dog don't hunt. [Edited 3/30/06 12:55pm] you are aware that you needn't have a record company, major or otherwise, for people to hear you, right? | |
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Moonbeam said: But don't you feel that his music (particularly Dirty Mind in your case) helped you through tough times or gave you insight/inspiration/hope/solace/etc.? Wouldn't you miss that album and subsequent ones if they had never been recorded?
no--dm wasn't my lovesexy. and no, i wouldn't miss out on it because i'd wind up finding something else in its place. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: namepeace said: You wrote the check. Cash it. If this is true, make your case. If you don't do that, then you're only saying 2+2 isn't 4 because you say it isn't, and that dog don't hunt. [Edited 3/30/06 12:55pm] you are aware that you needn't have a record company, major or otherwise, for people to hear you, right? I read that in a book somewhere. However comma. - Prince HAD a record company. - Prince RECORDED for that record company. - Prince's success WAS fueled by his creative drive AND his drive to succeed. - Prince's success DID affect the music that he made for others like me and you to hear. Your altruism, however valid it may be, is wholly irrelevant to the Prince discussion. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Moonbeam said: But don't you feel that his music (particularly Dirty Mind in your case) helped you through tough times or gave you insight/inspiration/hope/solace/etc.? Wouldn't you miss that album and subsequent ones if they had never been recorded?
no--dm wasn't my lovesexy. and no, i wouldn't miss out on it because i'd wind up finding something else in its place. If I remember correctly, you said Dirty Mind helped you to understand that it was OK to be different when you did that great thread in dedication to it for its 25th anniversary. Do you think its impact could be replaced by other music? I, for one, know that I haven't been able to find anything that does that same thing for me as 1999. I don't think another artist/album/song, etc. could have the same kind of impact. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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namepeace said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: you are aware that you needn't have a record company, major or otherwise, for people to hear you, right? I read that in a book somewhere. However comma. - Prince HAD a record company. - Prince RECORDED for that record company. - Prince's success WAS fueled by his creative drive AND his drive to succeed. - Prince's success DID affect the music that he made for others like me and you to hear. Your altruism, however valid it may be, is wholly irrelevant to the Prince discussion. not at all. | |
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Moonbeam said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: no--dm wasn't my lovesexy. and no, i wouldn't miss out on it because i'd wind up finding something else in its place. If I remember correctly, you said Dirty Mind helped you to understand that it was OK to be different when you did that great thread in dedication to it for its 25th anniversary. Do you think its impact could be replaced by other music? of course it could--prince ain't the end-all-be-all when it comes to celebrating being different from the norm. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: namepeace said: I read that in a book somewhere. However comma. - Prince HAD a record company. - Prince RECORDED for that record company. - Prince's success WAS fueled by his creative drive AND his drive to succeed. - Prince's success DID affect the music that he made for others like me and you to hear. Your altruism, however valid it may be, is wholly irrelevant to the Prince discussion. not at all. Saying so doesn't make it so. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: not at all. Saying so doesn't make it so. sure it does. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: no--dm wasn't my lovesexy. and no, i wouldn't miss out on it because i'd wind up finding something else in its place. This isn't about "finding something else." It's about finding Prince. You keep avoiding that. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: namepeace said: Saying so doesn't make it so. sure it does. If you can't back it up. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: no--dm wasn't my lovesexy. and no, i wouldn't miss out on it because i'd wind up finding something else in its place. This isn't about "finding something else." It's about finding Prince. You keep avoiding that. that's because in my case, i didn't find him. it was more or less the other way around, weirdly enough.  | |
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namepeace said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: sure it does. If you can't back it up. i have backed it up, several times within this thread. read through and try to figure out what i'm trying to say here. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Moonbeam said: If I remember correctly, you said Dirty Mind helped you to understand that it was OK to be different when you did that great thread in dedication to it for its 25th anniversary. Do you think its impact could be replaced by other music? of course it could--prince ain't the end-all-be-all when it comes to celebrating being different from the norm. That's interesting! I know Prince isn't the end all/be all of being different (or anything else, for that matter), but it was his album that helped you that way, right? Aren't you glad it happened? We obviously differ in our perspectives then, which is cool.  1999 helped me embrace myself as a different individual as well. Other records have done the same, but not one grabs me by the balls thematically, stylistically and musically like 1999, and I really don't think any other is capable of it.Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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