ImYours said:

I am sure Alan will be gutted to hear this. I personally think Alan's interviews are intelligent, insightful and very interesting. Its not like he is gossiping about Prince's private life.

Also if your not going to read anymore why tell us, why not just decide that for yourself..why all the dramatics?

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

The Rise and Fall (and Comeback) of Prince should be in store soon enough.

Aerogram said:

jdcxc said:

Gotta agee on this point. As the daughter of a jazz musician I can say that my Dad had all the greats in his record collection. And I frequently heard him playing them as a youngster. It wasn't my kind of music at the time so I really didn't pay much attention to it. Same goes for my brother. Neither one of us actually appreciated the art form until we got older. But we were very well aware of it.

passionnant, thanks!

Excellent read.

Boy, I'd love to hear that alternate instrumental cut of NC2U.

workingupahiyellasweat said:

"Can I play With U?" written and performed by Prince and Miles Davis.

You have proved time and time again that you know NOTHING about Prince and seem to be here only to denegrate him. What's the point?

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Great reading! Thanks .

I wish I could cut and paste the part where Leeds says..Prince does it all himself in the studio, overdubbing all the instruments, etc...his talent is just amazing to me

mapaul said:

Just an incredible read...Man Prince just had so much going on,,,what a dynamic artist

Prince was not peeping that much jazz.
The music speaks for itself.
When Prince started dipping into jazz, his music turned soft and porno like.

SynthiaRose said:

That makes me laugh over and over again!

workingupahiyellasweat said:

yeah right. have you actually HEARD any Madhouse? And the rest... and tell me, is "when the lights go down" porno-like?

buy some of his extended catlogue. get some boots. why comment if you haven't heard the full extent of Prince's prolific output?

Alan Leeds about 1988:'A couple of months later Miles came to Minneapolis for the opening of the US portion of the tour that year. We had a big party at Paisley Park. It was very much a media event - the Warner execs were there and the MTV was there. Miles came to that and was just there socially. There was a jam session that night and George Clinton was there and Mavis Staples and a few others, and they got on stage, but not Miles - he didn't play.
Then a couple of weeks after that Miles came to our concert in Madison Square Garden in New York. So they're seeing each other more often, but still no activity. Then in December 1988'


Miles Davis did performed with Prince at a aftershow in London in '88

Ifsixwuz9 said:

You may be right, but you have to remember Prince lived with Andre Cymone's family more than either his father or mother during his formative years and always had a particularly frosty relationship with his father. I mean, what children actually listen to their parents music? Otherwise I would have grown up loving Barry Manilow and James Last!

workingupahiyellasweat said:

Firstly, to say Prince is a liar, well you would have to give me the quote where Prince categorically says he worked with Miles Davis present in the studio. As the interview reveals, Prince did have some recordings of Miles sent to him and could have worked on those, so he could be implying he worked with Miles Davis' material in the studio or had jams including Miles samples, though not with Miles actually present.

JPW said:

If you actually bother to read the interview, it clearly reveals that 'Can I Play With U' was recorded by sending tapes back and forth, they were not in the studio at the same time, which is what workingupahiyellasweat was saying.

catpark said:

I have never heard that Miles Davis performed with Prince on stage other than the New Year's Eve concert at Paisley Park in 1987. Are you sure you are not confusing that with the aftershow at Camden Palace where Ronnie Woods and Mica Paris guested?

metalorange said:

That is what i talkin about. I'm positive he was unless im going mad! ive got it on tape i'll have to dig that out and check.

JPW said:

Some of that madhouse sounds like soft porn background music.

Yeah, and that Xenophobia was a real Jazz classic.

Prince was better when he uses synth horns, and he might as well have a synth guitar with all those loaded effects and loops he uses.

I wish you would get off it, Prince had some bad musical periods and some of that Madhouse stuff is soft core porn background music.

Since he already hooked up with Najee, Im waiting for him to invite Kenny G to his band.

Prince is a liar, he never recorded any studio tracks with Miles. Prince spits all that crap about the truth, and lies about collabs with Miles.

workingupahiyellasweat said:

Not to get involved in your own personal pointless spat with JPW, but as I posted before, according to Alan Leeds, Prince did collaborate with Miles, except Miles wasn't in the studio at the time. Prince often does this, he collaborated with Kate Bush by sending taped back, and most of his 'collaborations' with associated artists have been him doing a demo on his own and then letting them work further on it.

catpark said:

watching tape right now. Metalorange ur right it was Paisley Park in '87!!

metalorange said:

I realise that now. I posted it before I read the interview.

I think the point is moot though. They still worked together and played on stage together so what's the difference? Not much... they never became tight musically perhaps, but they are still very much associated so calling Prince a liar seems kind of funny.

Oh and workingupahiyellasweat, I have no personal beef with you, I respect your distaste for some of Prince's work, however I do think you're dissing a lot of the good stuff. Madhouse and Xpectation, sure they're not jazz greats by ANY STRETCH, but for someone who is otherwise basically a rock/r&B/funk musician, they're certainly not a bad go at the genre! Prince CAN play jazz very well I believe and again his official output is not complete testament to that. It doesn't honour just how well he can play jazz styles.... just wait 'till the stuff comes out of the vault one day... he'll gain respect for his full abilities, you'll see. And if you don't think he's an able musician in various styles, then what aspect of Prince DO you dig?

That is indeed an interesting interview, with a factual recount of some aspects of some of the most creative years in Prince's career. Respect to Alan Leeds!

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WaterUdrink said:

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Of course he knew about jazz if his Dad was jazz musician. I don't have any issue with Alan's stories but sometimes he makes it sound like P has no knowlegde of anything and gets to be a bit much.

Another brilliant read from Alan Leeds.

yeah right. have you actually HEARD any Madhouse? And the rest... and tell me, is "when the lights go down" porno-like?

What nonsense....I think comments like 'Prince's music is porno like' are what a jr high listener would say. "when the lights go down' is one of Prince's best. It's thrilling.

ImYours said:

i don't think he's being malicious or tactless - he was there when the things happened, and the stories are his to tell. i've heard people speak far worse of prince.

Prince is a liar, he never recorded any studio tracks with Miles. Prince spits all that crap about the truth, and lies about collabs with Miles.[/quote]



OK, I guess your entitled to your own opinion. I respect that. Idiots have opinions too but please let us know when Prince said - he worked with Miles in the studio. As usual, he says very little.

very nice read.

I'm not on the anti-Lisa & Wendy credit but didn't Prince record JAZZ jam sessions around the time of 1977/78?

And anyway, Alan did NOT say that Prince didn't any clue whatsoever prior to his relationship with Lisa/Wendy/Eric,,,he said, that his knowledge about jazz isn't that deep, as opposed to their knowledge.