Ronny said:

OK, I guess your entitled to your own opinion. I respect that. Idiots have opinions too but please let us know when Prince said - he worked with Miles in the studio. As usual, he says very little.[/quote]

Like alot of you, I have read and heard most Prince interviews. The only references I have heard P make about MD collaborations have been about the limited nature of them occurring and the fakes that exist on the bootleg market. He may have talked about the exchange of ideas and tapes but I have never heard him speak of much in studio collaborations. Where is this coming from? The bottom line is that both artists had extreme respect for each other, shared musical ideas and covers, and the relationship probably would have progressed further if MD was a generation younger. It is a testament to the creativity of P that one of the greatest musicians of all time would have such respect for him.

I have alot of respect for Alan Leeds taste and connections but we will not know the whole history until Prince actually documents it. P and MD were iconoclasts who have generated alot of varying interpretations of their musical imprints and biography. Alan Leeds is just one angle.

jdcxc said:

Hell, even if Prince wrote an autobiography, it would only be the truth as he saw it. Michael Jackson wrote and autobiography and still insisted he'd only ever had cosmetic surgery twice - one for his nose, one for a cleft in his chin. Yeah, right.

metalorange said:

You're right and there is room for outside criticism and opinions but we should never forget that the Leeds' viewpoint is also subjective.

"Towards the end of the dinner Miles says to Prince's Dad, "Now I know why that motherfucking son of yours is so crazy!""

Priceless!

Doctor said:

And that was my second favorite line.

"untimely death"??

- Miles' health was shot from years of heroin use. At the rate he was going he was lucky to live into the 1980s.
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mapaul said:

And "N.E.W.S." is all we got...

ImYours said:

Huh?

Me and alan have the same birthday...wow...he rocks BIGTIME...great article...thanks

HERE is the interview where Prince claims he jammed with Miles . . .

http://www.prince3922.fre...newrev.htm

Thank you for posting this, mapaul.

FASCINATING stuff.

I totally agree with what you write!

I personally think that MD was "able" to let other people lead him to some othere different musicla ideas.. which Prince somehow is strange too, or affraid of.. i don't know which or why, but it's probably also a reason - like Alan Leeds says - why they never got to work together.
And then again,it probably would've been a sort of Amandla album.. ending up with just one or two Prince tunes.. cause Prince either wants to do the whole album by himself, or MD also wanted input by other talented people as well.
At the time of Tutu and Amandla, like for most pop oriented jazz musicians, it was popular to have different and more producers on one album.. which was kinda new back then..

jdcxc said:

Like alot of you, I have read and heard most Prince interviews. The only references I have heard P make about MD collaborations have been about the limited nature of them occurring and the fakes that exist on the bootleg market. He may have talked about the exchange of ideas and tapes but I have never heard him speak of much in studio collaborations. Where is this coming from? The bottom line is that both artists had extreme respect for each other, shared musical ideas and covers, and the relationship probably would have progressed further if MD was a generation younger. It is a testament to the creativity of P that one of the greatest musicians of all time would have such respect for him.

I have alot of respect for Alan Leeds taste and connections but we will not know the whole history until Prince actually documents it. P and MD were iconoclasts who have generated alot of varying interpretations of their musical imprints and biography. Alan Leeds is just one angle.[/quote]

Imagine if we had a talented person that could lift samples of Miles from other CDs and paste them over a Madhouse CD?

that was some good info!!!

thanx!!!

metalorange said:

I understand where you're coming from but, he did live with his Dad for a minute after his parents divorced. His Did left him the piano. All I'm saying is that the way the story reads is that Prince never heard any jazz before L, W and Eric, which I just think is bs. He didn't have to be into it but I doubt very seriously that it was completely foreign to him.

This proves Prince lied about recording with Miles.

mapaul said:

Don't. Do. That.

Leave Miles alone.

THANKS

WaterUdrink said:

Prince did in fact dabble quite regularly in jazz idioms even before recording his first album for Warners.

There are plenty of unreleased jazz excursions by Prince recorded at the Loring Park studio and at home. Some of it can accurately be viewed as the beginnings of the Madhouse project and it's remarkable just how closely that material resembles the stuff on the Madhouse albums.


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lovely read. thanks

Can anyone remember the Miles story that Prince told onstage at Xenophobia?

I can't quite remember the details but I'm sure it had something to do with Miles buying Prince a belt (??? ). It was hilarious.

Paraphrasing: Miles gace P. a belt. P. said he doesn't "wear belts." Miles responds, "Well fuck you." Afterward it's Princey proselytizing about the neglible effects of profanity. I think Miles saying that was ultra-cool, and probably the only person that said it to Prince's face. My cool, cool MD.

onenitealone said:

mapaul said:

Thank you. I remember he had everyone in stitches.