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PrintableRomera, who said that at the end of his career (?) Prince was seen as another black man? Not the musical critics in my opinion: i followed his career quite thoroughly, but the remarks i read from musical critics where never about his skin colour, but about the declining quality of his music.
I mean, isnt it so that you are projecting your own views and insecurities on that? Think about that first. | |
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meow85 said: ReverendHubert said: I don't hate U. I also agree totally. Now, my question is, working from what you established, do you think some Prince fans might feel excluded by this Blackness, or is Prince more real to them; or do ya'll think that most reacting 2 this would say "f*#@ the consciousness" and drop mo' songs like Jack U Off, Gett Off, Head, etc? Humbily, Reverend Hubert Speaking as a non-black person with barely any real-life contact or experience with black people (the Org ? It's pretty far removed from the real world.  )
I'm really not sure what to think. It's great that he's showing more pride than he used to, but the labelling he's made a point of in recent years seems a bit, I dunno. I won't say necessarily exclusionary, but it's interesting. I mean, I'm not sure I understand why now, after decades of an all-inclusionary Uptown vibe, he'd make a point of highlighting his race and sexuality. He is what he is obviously, but I kinda liked it better when it was a non-issue. I don't care what colour you are, Prince. If it made a difference to me, I wouldn't be a fan in the first place.  I feel this way also. | |
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Riverpoet31 said: I mean, my skin is white, but maybe i inherited some 'black' blood in the past...should i use that to make a point? does that give me a ground to moan?
My initial reaction to your post was: Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit but upon second thought:
Another example: imagine i am a black person, grown up in some ghetto, saying 'i dont have opportunities, because white men treated my forefathers like a slave', its nonsense, abuse of powerterms What if a white man or woman with some disorder would say: i cant work, because black men kicked my mother in the belly when she was pregnant of me. I mean, when youre human the past is something to learn about, but dont automatically judge 'white' people who live nowadays for slavery or whatsoever. It doesnt help them, it doesnt help you. In the end constructivism and love work way better then acting like a victim or projecting hatred. Racism is not in the past. There are still some racist White people alive and breathing today. We are only two generations removed from drinking at separate water fountains. Some White people are still moving out of neighborhoods Black people move into. I am sick of the get over it, it's in the past, victim calling motherfuckers of the world. Prove that it doesn't exist then. I'll remember it the next time I'm in my boss's car and his boyfriend calls someone a nigger in my presence. | |
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He, Romera, of course i am chargating things a bit.
But i am no racist, i am very openminded, i have worked at an anti-discrimination office myselve for a year, but i am saying these things because i get the idea some people are using arguments like these in a cheap way, to be opportunistic, because they maybe did get hard because they experienced racism in real life. I am pointing at this because i get the expression so-called black consciousness is used as a pose, which finally doesnt bring people any further, but limitates them instead. I mean: i am clear about that you cant blame white people nowadays for slavery, its wrong, its grieving. I can understand that you can feel connected to black consciousness, becausing it connects you to people feeling the same, but in the end....were we going to as a society, as the world even, its not about skin colour, hatred, picking on eachother, but about people following their possibilities, being pure, honest, selfrespecting (whether youre brown, white, yellow, gay, straight, bi, muslim, christian...whatsoever). So, why keep sticking in black - white thinking? thats totally useless. Thats WHY i say these things. | |
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Riverpoet31 said: He, Romera, of course i am chargating things a bit.
Do you have any idea if all black people have the same opportunities and posssibilties as their white counterparts?
But i am no racist, i am very openminded, i have worked at an anti-discrimination office myselve for a year, but i am saying these things because i get the idea some people are using arguments like these in a cheap way, to be opportunistic, because they maybe did get hard because they experienced racism in real life. I am pointing at this because i get the expression so-called black consciousness is used as a pose, which finally doesnt bring people any further, but limitates them instead. I mean: i am clear about that you cant blame white people nowadays for slavery, its wrong, its grieving. I can understand that you can feel connected to black consciousness, becausing it connects you to people feeling the same, but in the end....were we going to as a society, as the world even, its not about skin colour, hatred, picking on eachother, but about people following their possibilities, being pure, honest, selfrespecting (whether youre brown, white, yellow, gay, straight, bi, muslim, christian...whatsoever). So, why keep sticking in black - white thinking? thats totally useless. Thats WHY i say these things. Say what you want, you are entitled to your opinion but at the end of the day, racism is still alive and kicking and the only time I really hear about it on this site is when some white people think it's against them. | |
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Romera said: Riverpoet31 said: He, Romera, of course i am chargating things a bit.
the only time I really hear about it on this site is when some white people think it's against them.But i am no racist, i am very openminded, i have worked at an anti-discrimination office myselve for a year, but i am saying these things because i get the idea some people are using arguments like these in a cheap way, to be opportunistic, because they maybe did get hard because they experienced racism in real life. I am pointing at this because i get the expression so-called black consciousness is used as a pose, which finally doesnt bring people any further, but limitates them instead. I mean: i am clear about that you cant blame white people nowadays for slavery, its wrong, its grieving. I can understand that you can feel connected to black consciousness, becausing it connects you to people feeling the same, but in the end....were we going to as a society, as the world even, its not about skin colour, hatred, picking on eachother, but about people following their possibilities, being pure, honest, selfrespecting (whether youre brown, white, yellow, gay, straight, bi, muslim, christian...whatsoever). So, why keep sticking in black - white thinking? thats totally useless. Thats WHY i say these things. Bingo! | |
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Romera said: Riverpoet31 said: I mean, my skin is white, but maybe i inherited some 'black' blood in the past...should i use that to make a point? does that give me a ground to moan?
My initial reaction to your post was: Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit but upon second thought:
Another example: imagine i am a black person, grown up in some ghetto, saying 'i dont have opportunities, because white men treated my forefathers like a slave', its nonsense, abuse of powerterms What if a white man or woman with some disorder would say: i cant work, because black men kicked my mother in the belly when she was pregnant of me. I mean, when youre human the past is something to learn about, but dont automatically judge 'white' people who live nowadays for slavery or whatsoever. It doesnt help them, it doesnt help you. In the end constructivism and love work way better then acting like a victim or projecting hatred. Racism is not in the past. There are still some racist White people alive and breathing today. We are only two generations removed from drinking at separate water fountains. Some White people are still moving out of neighborhoods Black people move into. I am sick of the get over it, it's in the past, victim calling motherfuckers of the world. Prove that it doesn't exist then. I'll remember it the next time I'm in my boss's car and his boyfriend calls someone a nigger in my presence. Well-said. when will some people going to realized this? | |
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Say it loud! I'm Black and I'm oh so muthafuckin' proud!  "Free yo mind and yo ass will follow" - George Clinton | |
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Black, White, Yellow who gives a fuck!? we're al bones when were dead! Sometimes Prince does favour blacks, witch is very narrow minded IMO why can't we all just be EQUAL.
I hate the culture of "Black and white difference's" "Blacks do it one way, whites do it another" We are all people, i am white but i couldn't give a spinning shit what colour i was!! SKIN COLOUR DOESN'T... oh wait... SHOULDN'T MATTER Sheesh... Now give it a break, | |
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Romera said: Riverpoet31 said: I mean, my skin is white, but maybe i inherited some 'black' blood in the past...should i use that to make a point? does that give me a ground to moan?
My initial reaction to your post was: Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit but upon second thought:
Another example: imagine i am a black person, grown up in some ghetto, saying 'i dont have opportunities, because white men treated my forefathers like a slave', its nonsense, abuse of powerterms What if a white man or woman with some disorder would say: i cant work, because black men kicked my mother in the belly when she was pregnant of me. I mean, when youre human the past is something to learn about, but dont automatically judge 'white' people who live nowadays for slavery or whatsoever. It doesnt help them, it doesnt help you. In the end constructivism and love work way better then acting like a victim or projecting hatred. Racism is not in the past. There are still some racist White people alive and breathing today. . Yes and there is also plently of racist black people. I'm definatly not saying "get over it" or anything...we should all be aware of our history but it's also important to heal as a society. I think racism is stupid if it is comimg from a black person or a white person. If we keep focusing on differences and this "We have to stick to our kind" kind of mentality than we will forever live in a violent, racist society. I'm not saying that is what you were saying or anything I just wanted to point out that white people are not the only ones who are racist. | |
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alright, i'ma step outta this thing before a can of stupid ends up being opened within the thread. but before i go, lemme just say a couple things:
GG said: [...]Sometimes Prince does favour blacks, witch is very narrow minded[...]
and why's that? if he were to absolutely favor his own race over other peoples', then you'd have a point. thing of it is, he doesn't. far as i see it, he's tolerant of everyone. just because he's embracing his heritage doesn't mean that he's damning yours or anyone else's. like romera said, it's only when the brotha does stuff like this people start feeling offended. they shouldn't feel that way. the way i feel about this whole thing is this: it's absolutely okay to be proud of your heritage/racial background, but NEVER snub anybody else's heritage in order to hype your own. we all can learn something from one another that way. it never hurts to do so, and it works absolutely fine for me. i dig everybody, no matter what shade of melanin that you've got and where your ancestors came from. but if you tell me in no uncertain terms that i cannot show any sorta pride for my ancestry, then we might have a problem. i won't hate you, but we're gonna butt heads. and on that note: ChristopherTracyParade said: Say it loud! I'm Black and I'm oh so muthafuckin' proud!
right the fuck awn.  
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Krystal666 said: Romera said: My initial reaction to your post was: Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit but upon second thought:
Racism is not in the past. There are still some racist White people alive and breathing today. . Yes and there is also plently of racist black people. I'm definatly not saying "get over it" or anything...we should all be aware of our history but it's also important to heal as a society. I think racism is stupid if it is comimg from a black person or a white person. If we keep focusing on differences and this "We have to stick to our kind" kind of mentality than we will forever live in a violent, racist society. I'm not saying that is what you were saying or anything I just wanted to point out that white people are not the only ones who are racist.  | |
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I'm not good at these sort of discussions because I'm always so worried about saying something wrong or miswording my thoughts, but I just wanted to say that when **I** begin to feel weird is when people (fans) make comments or posture as though Prince is playing on, or for, one 'side' or another.
The phrases "favoring whites" or "favoring blacks" seems to me to elicit almost literal cheers from one group or another, as if Prince is playing for one 'team' or another - and I think that kind of attitude is divisive and unhealthy, and only works towards perpetuating MORE separation and hostility. If Prince is more comfortable nowadays with embracing his heritage, good for him. Speaking for myself, Prince really hasn't done or said anything that I'm aware of that makes me, as a white person, feel excluded or put down or whatever. The attitude of some of the fans, however, is another story... I do feel a bit uncomfortable when I hear some of the comments being made. I almost don't want to post this because, as I said, I'm not that great at getting involved in these sensitive topics so I apologize in advance if I did, as it wasn't my intention. | |
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WillyWonka said: I'm not good at these sort of discussions because I'm always so worried about saying something wrong or miswording my thoughts, but I just wanted to say that when **I** begin to feel weird is when people (fans) make comments or posture as though Prince is playing on, or for, one 'side' or another.
The phrases "favoring whites" or "favoring blacks" seems to me to elicit almost literal cheers from one group or another, as if Prince is playing for one 'team' or another - and I think that kind of attitude is divisive and unhealthy, and only works towards perpetuating MORE separation and hostility. If Prince is more comfortable nowadays with embracing his heritage, good for him. Speaking for myself, Prince really hasn't done or said anything that I'm aware of that makes me, as a white person, feel excluded or put down or whatever. The attitude of some of the fans, however, is another story... I do feel a bit uncomfortable when I hear some of the comments being made. I almost don't want to post this because, as I said, I'm not that great at getting involved in these sensitive topics so I apologize in advance if I did, as it wasn't my intention. I'm glad you posted this. I think what you said is dead on. One of my favorite things about Purple Rain the movie was seeing black and white people in the club sceanes grooving to the music and having fun together. Black people rockin' out to Let's go crazy and white people getting their groove on to the Bird. Once I was at at record store browsing in the R&B section and this black girl came up to me and was like "Oh you like black music?" in a very dismmisive and judgemental way. Like because I wasn't black it was somehow invasive to her that I liked black music (which actually I like rock/new wave as much as I like R&B). That kind of additude from Prince fans like where they are annoyed that white/hispanic people might like his music is really dissapointing. | |
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I think it's sad that in the year 2006, people are still thinking of people in terms of skin color. I don't. The Earth is a very very tiny part of a very large universe. We're but grains of sand, and yet you still define yourselves by what's outside, not by what's inside.
Prince is a brilliant musician..performer...etc. Period. Not a brilliant black performer..mulatto..biracial.. We're going to have to come together one of these days | |
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dammit, i said i was done here...  but i gotta speak on this:
Krystal666 said: Once I was at at record store browsing in the R&B section and this black girl came up to me and was like "Oh you like black music?" in a very dismmisive and judgemental way. Like because I wasn't black it was somehow invasive to her that I liked black music (which actually I like rock/new wave as much as I like R&B).
you've no idea how many similar comments i've been given by folks--relatives and non- --that are in that same vein: "why do you listen to white people's stuff?" music is music. That kind of additude from Prince fans like where they are annoyed that white/hispanic people might like his music is really dissapointing.
okay, this is weird because i've never seen prince fans snub others for liking prince because of their race. i have seen instances where folks have said some stupid stuff about other's backgrounds, but not because they listen to prince. | |
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Romera said: I'll remember it the next time I'm in my boss's car and his boyfriend calls someone a nigger in my presence.
I think that word is disgusting and offensive no matter WHO says it. I'll never understand why it's acceptable in any form or fashion. I've had to try to explain to young children why that word is offensive and wrong and shouldn't ever be used, and it was a difficult point to get across to them why, because they'd heard it being used in the context of being said BY a black person TO another black person - and because of how the word was being tossed around so jokingly and nonchalantly between these guys (who were black), the kids didn't even realize the meaning behind the word, or the horrible connotations of it. I didn't know how to explain to these kids that some people believe it's OK to use that word in some certain cases, but not in other cases, or that the word is OK for some people to use but not for others. It was confusing for them to understand. Racism and how to overcome it is a very complex issue. 
I'm not sure why I'm even adding this to this discussion, as I know it's not really what this thread was about..but seeing that word made me want to add this in, for whatever reason. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: alright, i'ma step outta this thing before a can of stupid ends up being opened within the thread. but before i go, lemme just say a couple things:
GG said: [...]Sometimes Prince does favour blacks, witch is very narrow minded[...]
and why's that? if he were to absolutely favor his own race over other peoples', then you'd have a point. thing of it is, he doesn't. far as i see it, he's tolerant of everyone. just because he's embracing his heritage doesn't mean that he's damning yours or anyone else's. like romera said, it's only when the brotha does stuff like this people start feeling offended. they shouldn't feel that way. the way i feel about this whole thing is this: it's absolutely okay to be proud of your heritage/racial background, but NEVER snub anybody else's heritage in order to hype your own. we all can learn something from one another that way. it never hurts to do so, and it works absolutely fine for me. i dig everybody, no matter what shade of melanin that you've got and where your ancestors came from. but if you tell me in no uncertain terms that i cannot show any sorta pride for my ancestry, then we might have a problem. i won't hate you, but we're gonna butt heads. and on that note: ChristopherTracyParade said: Say it loud! I'm Black and I'm oh so muthafuckin' proud!
right the fuck awn.
...and right on for the edit [Edited 3/3/06 11:24am] Pathetic, i am not "proud" of being white, and i wouldn't be proud of being black! i just "am" white. big bastard deal, skin colour doesn't matter to me in the slightest, i just don't take it into account when i look at a person. | |
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GoldenGlove said: Pathetic, i am not "proud" of being white, and i wouldn't be proud of being black! i just "am" white. big bastard deal, skin colour doesn't matter to me in the slightest, i just don't take it into account when i look at a person.
easy for you to say, innit? | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: dammit, i said i was done here...
but i gotta speak on this:
Krystal666 said: Once I was at at record store browsing in the R&B section and this black girl came up to me and was like "Oh you like black music?" in a very dismmisive and judgemental way. Like because I wasn't black it was somehow invasive to her that I liked black music (which actually I like rock/new wave as much as I like R&B).
you've no idea how many similar comments i've been given by folks--relatives and non- --that are in that same vein: "why do you listen to white people's stuff?" music is music. Yeah it's stupid isn't it? That kind of additude from Prince fans like where they are annoyed that white/hispanic people might like his music is really dissapointing.
okay, this is weird because i've never seen prince fans snub others for liking prince because of their race. i have seen instances where folks have said some stupid stuff about other's backgrounds, but not because they listen to prince. Whaaa??? We were just having a discussion about black people and during which time periods they are like "Yeah he's coming over to OUR side now!" or white people during the 1999/Wendy & Lisa years like feeling it's safer to like Prince. | |
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Krystal666 said: WillyWonka said: I'm not good at these sort of discussions because I'm always so worried about saying something wrong or miswording my thoughts, but I just wanted to say that when **I** begin to feel weird is when people (fans) make comments or posture as though Prince is playing on, or for, one 'side' or another.
The phrases "favoring whites" or "favoring blacks" seems to me to elicit almost literal cheers from one group or another, as if Prince is playing for one 'team' or another - and I think that kind of attitude is divisive and unhealthy, and only works towards perpetuating MORE separation and hostility. If Prince is more comfortable nowadays with embracing his heritage, good for him. Speaking for myself, Prince really hasn't done or said anything that I'm aware of that makes me, as a white person, feel excluded or put down or whatever. The attitude of some of the fans, however, is another story... I do feel a bit uncomfortable when I hear some of the comments being made. I almost don't want to post this because, as I said, I'm not that great at getting involved in these sensitive topics so I apologize in advance if I did, as it wasn't my intention. I'm glad you posted this. I think what you said is dead on. One of my favorite things about Purple Rain the movie was seeing black and white people in the club sceanes grooving to the music and having fun together. Black people rockin' out to Let's go crazy and white people getting their groove on to the Bird. Once I was at at record store browsing in the R&B section and this black girl came up to me and was like "Oh you like black music?" in a very dismmisive and judgemental way. Like because I wasn't black it was somehow invasive to her that I liked black music (which actually I like rock/new wave as much as I like R&B). That kind of additude from Prince fans like where they are annoyed that white/hispanic people might like his music is really dissapointing. That's wasn't racist. That was ignorant. What she said in no way affected whether or not you could get a job, live in a certain area or whether you were going to be followed by the police because of your race. | |
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PurpleCharm said: Krystal666 said: I'm glad you posted this. I think what you said is dead on. One of my favorite things about Purple Rain the movie was seeing black and white people in the club sceanes grooving to the music and having fun together. Black people rockin' out to Let's go crazy and white people getting their groove on to the Bird. Once I was at at record store browsing in the R&B section and this black girl came up to me and was like "Oh you like black music?" in a very dismmisive and judgemental way. Like because I wasn't black it was somehow invasive to her that I liked black music (which actually I like rock/new wave as much as I like R&B). That kind of additude from Prince fans like where they are annoyed that white/hispanic people might like his music is really dissapointing. That's wasn't racist. That was ignorant. What she said in no way affected whether or not you could get a job, live in a certain area or whether you were going to be followed by the police because of your race. I never said it was racist. I just felt it was incredibly irritating. | |
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Krystal666 said: Whaaa??? We were just having a discussion about black people and during which time periods they are like "Yeah he's coming over to OUR side now!" or white people during the 1999/Wendy & Lisa years like feeling it's safer to like Prince.
yeah, i know...i was just saying though. thing of it is, ol' boy was (and always has been, for the most part) trying his damndest not to get pigeonholed so folks would be like "oh, he's with us!" the way i've always seen it, even though in the earlier days he was being carried around and advertised/whatever by warners as an mainly black artist, he was more than that. he always has been. by the time the 3rd album came around, THAT was a sure sign he was like "i ain't with nobody, i'm basically FOR anybody who wants to listen to me." something along those lines...dunno if i'm saying that the way i wanna. hopefully you get it. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Krystal666 said: Whaaa??? We were just having a discussion about black people and during which time periods they are like "Yeah he's coming over to OUR side now!" or white people during the 1999/Wendy & Lisa years like feeling it's safer to like Prince.
yeah, i know...i was just saying though. thing of it is, ol' boy was (and always has been, for the most part) trying his damndest not to get pigeonholed so folks would be like "oh, he's with us!" the way i've always seen it, even though in the earlier days he was being carried around and advertised/whatever by warners as an mainly black artist, he was more than that. he always has been. by the time the 3rd album came around, THAT was a sure sign he was like "i ain't with nobody, i'm basically FOR anybody who wants to listen to me." something along those lines...dunno if i'm saying that the way i wanna. hopefully you get it. Yeah I get it. That's why I find it shocking that Prince has alot of prejudice fans who are so hung up on race. Man I thought it was so cool that Prince had a multiracial/different sexes band. He could play funk and rock out on guitar. That's why I love his music...cuz I like all kinds of styles. | |
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I dont see anything wrong with Prince embraces his hertiage and that doesnt take away of him making music that attract all audience. I dont fucking get it why some people on here are threatened by it.
As for my perspective, I am human yes, but I know what my hertiage is and I am proud of it. I awared of my rich but also unpleasent history. That is what makes the world very interesting is that people are from difficult cultures and races. It would be a boring if we all the same right? Also, if some going to continue to have this "colorblind we are the world" mentality then that is your choice but if you are going to tell me that I should let go of the past and even criticise of me being very proud of my hertiage that's when we are going to have a problem. Im into reality, not make-believe. | |
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I think it's incredibly easy for those that have never had to deal with racism or prejudice to say "We should all let it be and live together as one, color doesn't matter" and at the same time question why some Blacks have a "consciousness" about them and are proud of who they are. "Free yo mind and yo ass will follow" - George Clinton | |
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ChristopherTracyParade said: I think it's incredibly easy for those that have never had to deal with racism or prejudice to say "We should all let it be and live together as one, color doesn't matter" and at the same time question why some Blacks have a "consciousness" about them and are proud of who they are.
this has been talked about & mentioned to death here on the org, but yet n'still some people either just cannot understand this or refuse to understand it. it'd be nice if i could have the same utopian outlook on things as others do, but with the way folks are treated nowadays, i honestly cannot. it ain't being closed-minded, it's the god-honest truth. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Krystal666 said: Whaaa??? We were just having a discussion about black people and during which time periods they are like "Yeah he's coming over to OUR side now!" or white people during the 1999/Wendy & Lisa years like feeling it's safer to like Prince.
yeah, i know...i was just saying though. thing of it is, ol' boy was (and always has been, for the most part) trying his damndest not to get pigeonholed so folks would be like "oh, he's with us!" the way i've always seen it, even though in the earlier days he was being carried around and advertised/whatever by warners as an mainly black artist, he was more than that. he always has been. by the time the 3rd album came around, THAT was a sure sign he was like "i ain't with nobody, i'm basically FOR anybody who wants to listen to me." something along those lines...dunno if i'm saying that the way i wanna. hopefully you get it. Yeah, it's coming off right. ...dig...P, from the jump, knew WHAT he wanted, HOW he wanted it and WHAT he had to do to get it. NOTHING P has done hasn't been planned out before hand. Sure, P wanted to crossover, mainly cuz he wanted to play different genres of music. P always wanted a mixed band, male, female. Mainly, I think, because of his two biggest heroes had mixed bands; Hendrix and Sly. Seriously, anyone who is interested in P's early career; 78-82, all u have to do is look at Hendrix and Sly. The Purple Rain period is basically a tribute to those two men and their music and their wardrobe. Period. After P got the kind of crowd that he wanted, THEN he tossed the renegade trench coat, cut his hair and swithced gears. P always had a fairly large black following. Depending on what region, the white folks were there too. When MTV hit with his Little Red Corvette, ONLY then did u start to see maybe more white folks than anything else. But if P was playing Detroit, which adored him, he knew that this crowd could careless about LRC. He had to throw down Lady Cab. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: yeah, i know...i was just saying though. thing of it is, ol' boy was (and always has been, for the most part) trying his damndest not to get pigeonholed so folks would be like "oh, he's with us!" the way i've always seen it, even though in the earlier days he was being carried around and advertised/whatever by warners as an mainly black artist, he was more than that. he always has been. by the time the 3rd album came around, THAT was a sure sign he was like "i ain't with nobody, i'm basically FOR anybody who wants to listen to me." something along those lines...dunno if i'm saying that the way i wanna. hopefully you get it. Yeah, it's coming off right. ...dig...P, from the jump, knew WHAT he wanted, HOW he wanted it and WHAT he had to do to get it. NOTHING P has done hasn't been planned out before hand. Sure, P wanted to crossover, mainly cuz he wanted to play different genres of music. P always wanted a mixed band, male, female. Mainly, I think, because of his two biggest heroes had mixed bands; Hendrix and Sly. Seriously, anyone who is interested in P's early career; 78-82, all u have to do is look at Hendrix and Sly. The Purple Rain period is basically a tribute to those two men and their music and their wardrobe. Period. After P got the kind of crowd that he wanted, THEN he tossed the renegade trench coat, cut his hair and swithced gears. P always had a fairly large black following. Depending on what region, the white folks were there too. When MTV hit with his Little Red Corvette, ONLY then did u start to see maybe more white folks than anything else. But if P was playing Detroit, which adored him, he knew that this crowd could careless about LRC. He had to throw down Lady Cab. ...and there it is.  | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: blackguitaristz said: Yeah, it's coming off right. ...dig...P, from the jump, knew WHAT he wanted, HOW he wanted it and WHAT he had to do to get it. NOTHING P has done hasn't been planned out before hand. Sure, P wanted to crossover, mainly cuz he wanted to play different genres of music. P always wanted a mixed band, male, female. Mainly, I think, because of his two biggest heroes had mixed bands; Hendrix and Sly. Seriously, anyone who is interested in P's early career; 78-82, all u have to do is look at Hendrix and Sly. The Purple Rain period is basically a tribute to those two men and their music and their wardrobe. Period. After P got the kind of crowd that he wanted, THEN he tossed the renegade trench coat, cut his hair and swithced gears. P always had a fairly large black following. Depending on what region, the white folks were there too. When MTV hit with his Little Red Corvette, ONLY then did u start to see maybe more white folks than anything else. But if P was playing Detroit, which adored him, he knew that this crowd could careless about LRC. He had to throw down Lady Cab. ...and there it is. Yep. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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