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Reply #180 posted 02/03/06 6:37am

SquirrelMeat

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The song was OK. I think we take less these days because we are starved.

Sound wise, It sounds like the early 90s (18 and over), tune wise, its fairly lacking.

I think it works as a simple funk groove, but its hardly creative.
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Reply #181 posted 02/03/06 6:38am

MartyMcFly

Alexandernvrmind said:

Its not as urgent or frenetic as Madonna's "Music"


talk to the hand disbelief
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Reply #182 posted 02/03/06 6:43am

RodeoSchro

I like the song better just listening to it instead of watching it with the video.

It's a pretty catchy song, but it's probably not going to be on my Greatest Hits list.
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Reply #183 posted 02/03/06 6:44am

Nikki23

Some of you are so hard to please. He can do no right.
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Reply #184 posted 02/03/06 6:47am

BeautifulFranc
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Nikki23 said:

Some of you are so hard to please. He can do no right.


You're damn right. Some of you are very depressing hahaha. So bored with everything. I think many old fans need to move on.
Il n'y a pas de sentiment plus exaltant que celui d'appartenir à une nation si diverse, si libre et si douée pour le bonheur.
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Reply #185 posted 02/03/06 6:48am

MartyMcFly

FanofDaFascist said:

Not feeling this song upon first listen. Reminds me alot of Rave. It seems like the same thing happened all over again. He performs a song live and it's hot. Then years later he records it...and it's not....


He played it live in 1988 and it was recorded in 1988...
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Reply #186 posted 02/03/06 6:50am

MartyMcFly

herb4 said:

Funky, sleek, sexy.

"Kiss" meets "Bob George" or something like that. Defintiely feels like a "classic" Prince era track - basic at its core but with a lot of layers that you don't really notice right away.


Layers? Could u elaborate on that? Cuz I don't hear 'em... (I like the song very much)...
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Reply #187 posted 02/03/06 6:53am

fairmoan

Prince never really got Rave/NPS/High out of his system. I had hoped that the success of Musicology might have sated his commercial ambition, that he might tick the box with an utterly by-the-numbers pop record and return to the rich experimental vein of TRC and One Nite Alone. Now it seems that the Rainbow era was a false promise.

"Black Sweat" has some pristine funk falsetto, a few moments of hip-shaking bump n grind and the irresistible "I gotta brand new dance". But it's also a forty-something musical genius playing some pretty old tricks, a rampant sexuality that should be years behind him and which was always more satisfying when backed by an entire social vision. "Black Sweat" will be fun at the clubs, it's minimalist, it has the Linn Drum and all that, but it's also only one pace removed from the sort of disposable fluff that had me losing interest in the late '90s. He's certainly getting better at doing the "new single from Prince on MTV" thing, but the horizons are so limited it's depressing.
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Reply #188 posted 02/03/06 7:01am

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fairmoan said:

[...]"Black Sweat" will be fun at the clubs, it's minimalist, it has the Linn Drum and all that, but it's also only one pace removed from the sort of disposable fluff that had me losing interest in the late '90s. He's certainly getting better at doing the "new single from Prince on MTV" thing, but the horizons are so limited it's depressing.

nod this shares part of my feelings of why i'm not digging the track.
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Reply #189 posted 02/03/06 7:34am

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I like it
hug Fryd - Always Park The Car Sideways!duck
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Reply #190 posted 02/03/06 7:37am

coolcat

I think it's ok... Not enough of a melody for me.
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Reply #191 posted 02/03/06 7:39am

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Hmm..I'm kinda in limbo with this track. On one hand I'm pleased that its not the mid-tempo fare he's been stuck in since Emancipation. And this track honestly does have a chance to be a hit because it has a repetitive groove that will work in the clubs. However, I just can't get into the track that deeply. I hate when he makes those comments in the background of his songs and I wish he had thrown some nice rhythm guitar work or a shrieking guitar line. I'm holding out hope for the album version because the single edit is being marketed to a different audience who's taste does not reflect my own. So maybe the ending of the song contains flourishes that make it more interesting. My only solace is judging by Te Amo Corazon and Black Sweat, the album will be VERY diverse and that's a good thing. I actually dig Te Amo boxed
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Reply #192 posted 02/03/06 8:00am

MarcelJ

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Looks like it's doing well on vh1.com's video chart

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Reply #193 posted 02/03/06 8:04am

ufoclub

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this song is a repeat grower, I'm telling you that little bass synth boogie noise that comes in here and there is making me feel crazee.
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Reply #194 posted 02/03/06 8:12am

Byron

Universaluv said:



hmm sounds suspect...


Anyway, Workin' up a Crack Sweat!


falloff falloff
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Reply #195 posted 02/03/06 8:14am

GoldenGlove

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Mediocre... i need to give it a few more listens though.
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Reply #196 posted 02/03/06 8:17am

Novabreaker

I absolutely LOVE it, and I haven't even heard it yet!
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Reply #197 posted 02/03/06 8:19am

GustavoRibas

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fairmoan said:

Prince never really got Rave/NPS/High out of his system. I had hoped that the success of Musicology might have sated his commercial ambition, that he might tick the box with an utterly by-the-numbers pop record and return to the rich experimental vein of TRC and One Nite Alone. Now it seems that the Rainbow era was a false promise.

"Black Sweat" has some pristine funk falsetto, a few moments of hip-shaking bump n grind and the irresistible "I gotta brand new dance". But it's also a forty-something musical genius playing some pretty old tricks, a rampant sexuality that should be years behind him and which was always more satisfying when backed by an entire social vision. "Black Sweat" will be fun at the clubs, it's minimalist, it has the Linn Drum and all that, but it's also only one pace removed from the sort of disposable fluff that had me losing interest in the late '90s. He's certainly getting better at doing the "new single from Prince on MTV" thing, but the horizons are so limited it's depressing.


- Agree
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Reply #198 posted 02/03/06 8:21am

GustavoRibas

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coolcat said:

I think it's ok... Not enough of a melody for me.


- Exactly the same problem I have..."Kiss" and `When doves cry" were very danceable, but they had melody...
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Reply #199 posted 02/03/06 8:35am

Byron

I think people here care too much about what everyone else thinks...and I think peoeple here care too much about making sure everyone eles knows what they think...lol lol...wild how our mindset changes with technology.

Had the internet and message board sites like this one existed 20 years ago when "Kiss" first came out, I imagine the split among fans who loved/hated the song was intially released would have been similar to what it is now for "Black Sweat": most of us liking it, some of us not getting into it at all, at least not initially...I, for one, was underwhelmed when I first heard "Kiss", and a bit disappointed. I'd imagine the "haters" (rolleyes...I hate that term) back then may have commented on things like saying Prince's falsetto is too irritating for the entire length of a single, and how much better it would have been had he sung it in his "normal" voice...that the rhythm guitar is "ok" but pales when compared to what he threw down on "Let's Go Crazy" and "Temptation"...that lines like "Act your age/Not your shoe size" are immature and weak compared to the poetry of "When Does Cry"...and that his Donald-Duck-On Helium screetching at the end of the song is just a step above fingernails on a chalkboard.

I know we all like to pretend we could spot and appreciate Prince's classic singles the very first time we heard them, that we just "knew" this one was different than the rest...and we also tend to convince ourselves that the number of years we've been a fan somehow gives us otherworldly insight into how long Prince spent creating a song, whether or not he had fun doing so, his mindset at the time of creation, whether or not the song will be a Top 40 hit, and especially whether or not he'll ever again be able to create anything worthy of the label "Genius"...and this goes for both sides of the fence, both pro and con, good and bad, "Love it" and "Hate it". I chalk it up to nothing more than how the internet has shaped our perceptions of our opinions, as well as how it has shaped our perceptions of everyone else's...lol

I sometimes wish we could turn back the clock to a time where a new Prince song could exist on its own, and I could listen to it and either like it or be bored with it without the background noise of a million anonymous opinions trying to convince me I should feel differently. I suppose I could just not come here when a new song is released...but my mindset I think has been forever changed by 6+ years of message board experience of all shapes and colors. Unlike in 1986, I now want to know what "everyone" thinks all the time...and it's almost subconscious at this point.
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Reply #200 posted 02/03/06 8:37am

MikeMatronik

I'm still in shock 4 the MTV endorsement!
Guess it'll be the new "Hung Up" confused
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Reply #201 posted 02/03/06 8:40am

Byron

For the record, I love the song...although the first listen left me going "Eh, it's ok I suppose..nice beat". As Aerogram said, though, it has a deceptively catchy melody, so deceptive that many here seem to think it doesn't even exist...lol lol...I'll say this much about it, though: I can easily sing the melody of "Black Sweat" in my mind without fail...but for the life of me I can't remember how the melody of "Te Amo Corleone" goes...
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Reply #202 posted 02/03/06 8:45am

dewalliz

JellyJam said:

I love this track. I'm not saying it's another 'Sign O'The Times' or anything like that (after all, what is?). But, as I listened to it for the first time with the headphones on, and the Linn drum machine started kicking out those hypnotic beats (as many have remarked on this board, remember where that Neptunes/Timbaland sound came from), I felt a twinge of excitement and a shiver down my spine like I haven't felt for many years. That sparse, hypnotic sound, the sleazy keyboards, and the tangible sense of erotic tension punctured by his rasping falsetto took me back many years. A great single.

And it bodes well for 3121. I'm not a 'Te Amo Corazon' hater; that song is like a pleasant summer daydream sensuously smothering my senses. 'Black Sweat' is a nasty, dark pleasure, like a funky vampire bat.


I agreed. I thought i was the only one who thought of that. I think this is a perfect summer jam and I have this feeling that this song is not going to get a great buzz but also it is going to be a summer hit.
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Reply #203 posted 02/03/06 8:46am

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Byron said:

I think people here care too much about what everyone else thinks...and I think peoeple here care too much about making sure everyone eles knows what they think...lol lol...wild how our mindset changes with technology.

Had the internet and message board sites like this one existed 20 years ago when "Kiss" first came out, I imagine the split among fans who loved/hated the song was intially released would have been similar to what it is now for "Black Sweat": most of us liking it, some of us not getting into it at all, at least not initially...I, for one, was underwhelmed when I first heard "Kiss", and a bit disappointed. I'd imagine the "haters" (rolleyes...I hate that term) back then may have commented on things like saying Prince's falsetto is too irritating for the entire length of a single, and how much better it would have been had he sung it in his "normal" voice...that the rhythm guitar is "ok" but pales when compared to what he threw down on "Let's Go Crazy" and "Temptation"...that lines like "Act your age/Not your shoe size" are immature and weak compared to the poetry of "When Does Cry"...and that his Donald-Duck-On Helium screetching at the end of the song is just a step above fingernails on a chalkboard.

I know we all like to pretend we could spot and appreciate Prince's classic singles the very first time we heard them, that we just "knew" this one was different than the rest...and we also tend to convince ourselves that the number of years we've been a fan somehow gives us otherworldly insight into how long Prince spent creating a song, whether or not he had fun doing so, his mindset at the time of creation, whether or not the song will be a Top 40 hit, and especially whether or not he'll ever again be able to create anything worthy of the label "Genius"...and this goes for both sides of the fence, both pro and con, good and bad, "Love it" and "Hate it". I chalk it up to nothing more than how the internet has shaped our perceptions of our opinions, as well as how it has shaped our perceptions of everyone else's...lol

I sometimes wish we could turn back the clock to a time where a new Prince song could exist on its own, and I could listen to it and either like it or be bored with it without the background noise of a million anonymous opinions trying to convince me I should feel differently. I suppose I could just not come here when a new song is released...but my mindset I think has been forever changed by 6+ years of message board experience of all shapes and colors. Unlike in 1986, I now want to know what "everyone" thinks all the time...and it's almost subconscious at this point.



excellent post
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Reply #204 posted 02/03/06 8:47am

MikeMatronik

Byron said:

I can easily sing the melody of "Black Sweat" in my mind without fail...but for the life of me I can't remember how the melody of "Te Amo Corleone" goes...


That's essence of a perfect pop record...It tattoo's it's melody and lyrics on your psyche!

razz
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Reply #205 posted 02/03/06 8:56am

Spookymuffin

The only reason this song has caused such a storm is because it's the first remotely listenable thing he's released since Crystal Ball (*puts on flack jacket*).

Musicology wasted away pretty damn fast, and I remember a lot of people claiming to find it boring only a week or so after release (obviously, others didn't and started releasing cyber-doves amongst other crazed-fam acts on a par with MJ loonies).

I personally think Black Sweat is so commercial it sucks. Fucking unoriginal bollocks...far too similar to the black eyed peas releases of late. Where's the funk? This is RnB. It ain't funky, but it's much more listenable than the recent Prince, which has got my hopes up..I must admit.
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Reply #206 posted 02/03/06 8:58am

dewalliz

SquirrelMeat said:

The song was OK. I think we take less these days because we are starved.
Sound wise, It sounds like the early 90s (18 and over), tune wise, its fairly lacking.

I think it works as a simple funk groove, but its hardly creative.


Not true! disbelief lol As for me it's either I like the song or not. Most of us trust our ears when comes listening to some good music. And a lot of people like the song but yes there always going to be the few who won't think highly of the song and that's cool yet hey that's reality. Okay, this song isn't groundbreaking or happen to be my favorite Prince song. And Prince might have create this song while he is asleep rather than sit down and trying to be more innovative. but still majority of us like the song the way it is and also many agreed that those two singles are the best he put out in 10 plus years. And I couldn't agreed more with the last sentence.
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Reply #207 posted 02/03/06 8:59am

calldapplwonde
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Novabreaker said:

I absolutely LOVE it, and I haven't even heard it yet!


Well, let us know what you think when you did, will ya?
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Reply #208 posted 02/03/06 8:59am

Universaluv

calldapplwondery83 said:

Alright, I like this joint, but with only 3:13 or somesuch and considering the way it ends, I cannot help but expect maybe two minutes more with some nasty and tight rhythm guitar put on top.
If not, it's still good for me, though!


Well since the lyrics show additional lyrics at the end of the song, I assume this is the radio edit we're listening to.


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Reply #209 posted 02/03/06 8:59am

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Anx said:



workinupaBRAKSWEAT



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