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Reply #120 posted 02/02/06 5:13pm

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jimmyrogertodd said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


that run-on sentence ya got there is definitely hotter than the song/video. thumbs up!

...but on the real side, squash the "you're not a real fan if..." stuff. seriously. you and others really like/love the song--good for you. me and a few others don't like it--good for me/us. one's amount of fandom ain't at stake here, nor are those of us who are showing disdain for it are trying to make people angry (and if you actually feel anger after seeing negative comments about the song--s'kinna pitiful. it's just a song).
No dear I am just stating that there is alot of people here are supposed to be fans and never like anything that the man puts out. And my fandom is not at stake even if none of the rest of the so called fans ever like or love any of the rest of Prince music for as long he is making music. But to hate or dislike everything since 90 and on is kinna pitiful if you ask me. And you are right it is just a song.


How would it be pitiful? What if they genuinely just can't get into it? Should they force themselves to like it?
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Reply #121 posted 02/02/06 5:19pm

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PurpleKnight said:

jimmyrogertodd said:

No dear I am just stating that there is alot of people here are supposed to be fans and never like anything that the man puts out. And my fandom is not at stake even if none of the rest of the so called fans ever like or love any of the rest of Prince music for as long he is making music. But to hate or dislike everything since 90 and on is kinna pitiful if you ask me. And you are right it is just a song.


How would it be pitiful? What if they genuinely just can't get into it? Should they force themselves to like it?

dont'cha know? it's PRINCE. we gotta dig everylittlesinglething he's ever done, simply because he did it.

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Reply #122 posted 02/02/06 5:20pm

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Dansa, we do need a more coherent reason why you dislike the song? Especially since it sounds like Dirty Mind music..lol
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Reply #123 posted 02/02/06 5:24pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Dansa, we do need a more coherent reason why you dislike the song? Especially since it sounds like Dirty Mind music..lol

look about 20 some-odd posts up.
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Reply #124 posted 02/02/06 6:23pm

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The songs ok, from what I heard on the radio, I'd have to hear it with headphones on to decide if it's just annoying as all get out.

But I must say as long as no rappers and over the top crap are in the album version it probably won't be an automatic skip over for me.

Is it pre-packaged and commercial ...probably. But, if it wasn't then it wouldn't get played on the radio. That's just the way it is now days.
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Reply #125 posted 02/02/06 6:26pm

Fauxie

I'm not really feeling this song. It's alright, but doesn't excite me. It doesn't sound like old school Prince to me, more like Rave-era stuff. A little chicken scratching throughout might have improved it a little. Minimalist is one thing, but you don't have to get economical on the quality too!

It's just not very interesting, for me. The opening reminds me of late 90s west coast hip-hop. The hook is ok, but nothing spectacular, and where are the perfectly placed musical flourishes you normally get from Prince? Then the song just ends, just like that, without so much as a solo, a scream, or coda.

If pushed I'd have to say I prefer Te Amo Corazon, so that should tell you how I feel about this one. It's Prince, his finger desperately trying to find the pulse but missing, and letting other artists and styles distract him and put him off his game.

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[Edited 2/2/06 18:28pm]
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Reply #126 posted 02/02/06 6:29pm

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Dansa, I think we are both outnumbered.
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Reply #127 posted 02/02/06 6:38pm

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dancerella said:




so it's uptemp and funky? the description you gave sounds great! do we know when the album is coming out yet?


march 21 is the date i keep hearing for the album. and yes, it's up tempo. nod

go watch the video at vh1.com or mtv.com!



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Reply #128 posted 02/02/06 6:38pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

gaaaaah...."black sweat" actually sounds like the exact same kinna shit the brotha's been talking against: pre-packaged, mindless boolshittin-assed, mindless beats. the antithesis of all that's princely, in my eyes. the joint smells of an atypical friday night's dancing at the club, drunk as fuck and just about to beat down & snatch the weave outta the woman's hair next to you because she accidentally scuffed your high heeled pleather boots. it's getting props from some of ya'll, but...not me. it's getting pitched in the same bin i pitched "te amo cortisone" (*snort*) in. it just ain't my bag. bored

the video's no better either. the ladies in it were kinna cute and i kinda dug that pinstriped joint p had on, but still...gaaaaah. surprising thing about the vid, though: ol' boy actually looked his age in it for once. craziness! mr.green



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girl i just heard after ness told me earlier today it was FUNKY... sorry but it does nothing for me... its not music "he" is doin for him it seems its more for the $$$ and being out n the lime light again.... sorry but after him shoving his JW ways at his fans for the last 4 yrs and at his site this tune sounds forced its not what he is supposed to be about any more disbelief and i still have not heard Te and i really have no desire to listin to it...
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Reply #129 posted 02/02/06 6:45pm

Fauxie

purplekisses said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

gaaaaah...."black sweat" actually sounds like the exact same kinna shit the brotha's been talking against: pre-packaged, mindless boolshittin-assed, mindless beats. the antithesis of all that's princely, in my eyes. the joint smells of an atypical friday night's dancing at the club, drunk as fuck and just about to beat down & snatch the weave outta the woman's hair next to you because she accidentally scuffed your high heeled pleather boots. it's getting props from some of ya'll, but...not me. it's getting pitched in the same bin i pitched "te amo cortisone" (*snort*) in. it just ain't my bag. bored

the video's no better either. the ladies in it were kinna cute and i kinda dug that pinstriped joint p had on, but still...gaaaaah. surprising thing about the vid, though: ol' boy actually looked his age in it for once. craziness! mr.green



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girl i just heard after ness told me earlier today it was FUNKY... sorry but it does nothing for me... its not music "he" is doin for him it seems its more for the $$$ and being out n the lime light again.... sorry but after him shoving his JW ways at his fans for the last 4 yrs and at his site this tune sounds forced its not what he is supposed to be about any more disbelief and i still have not heard Te and i really have no desire to listin to it...



It's like he's being distracted into compromising his music by other artists, what's popular, what's selling. It's not effortless for him like a Prince song where he just loves the track and is feeling it and it comes across naturally. I don't sense that from this one. He's trying here, whereas to me it normally feels like he just plays what feels good and we happen to think it's great.
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Reply #130 posted 02/02/06 6:48pm

357Magnum

Thought the song was original...the arpeggiated keyboard on the chorus was neat...sounds obviously edited from what will be on the album with the quick ending...the slow chant at the breakdown didn't help the already slow tempo..In my opinion needed a burst of energy, like a melting guitar shriek... Of course I'm from the large crowd who's still waiting for up tempo high energy vigorous and exciting music.
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Reply #131 posted 02/02/06 6:48pm

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Fauxie said:

I'm not really feeling this song. It's alright, but doesn't excite me. It doesn't sound like old school Prince to me, more like Rave-era stuff. A little chicken scratching throughout might have improved it a little. Minimalist is one thing, but you don't have to get economical on the quality too!

It's just not very interesting, for me. The opening reminds me of late 90s west coast hip-hop. The hook is ok, but nothing spectacular, and where are the perfectly placed musical flourishes you normally get from Prince? Then the song just ends, just like that, without so much as a solo, a scream, or coda.

If pushed I'd have to say I prefer Te Amo Corazon, so that should tell you how I feel about this one. It's Prince, his finger desperately trying to find the pulse but missing, and letting other artists and styles distract him and put him off his game.

...[Edited 2/2/06 18:28pm]


- I have to agree...I loved the video, but I missed a stronger melody. He borrowed the chorus of The Work pt1 and put it on a beat...he could write dozens of songs like this one in a week.
Musically speaking, I prefer Te Amo Corazon. But as I said in another thread, I hope he finally gets the ´hit´ that he is so obssessive with since Rave days. Maybe it will give him some peace of mind to work on ´songs´...
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Reply #132 posted 02/02/06 6:52pm

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The more I hear this song, the more I hate it. Can that be possible, especially, knowing how much I hated it earliar. lol
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Reply #133 posted 02/02/06 6:53pm

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And I hate those parts where you hear him in the background, goin, "funky" and some such, like he actually thinks he is really kickin ass or something. All he has to do is listen to a shitload of other albums, and he will know just how lame this is.
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Reply #134 posted 02/02/06 7:07pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The more I hear this song, the more I hate it.

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Reply #135 posted 02/02/06 7:09pm

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how the hell can you not like this song if you are a Prince fan?? I just dont get it!

This is the funkiest track he has put out in YEARS IMO.....Crank the volume and just try not to dance.....this song is H-O-T
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Reply #136 posted 02/02/06 7:26pm

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The old Prince is back!!! I am excited
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Reply #137 posted 02/02/06 7:33pm

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oh yes.

Anx said:



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Reply #138 posted 02/02/06 7:36pm

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The old Prince is back!!! I am excited


Me too!!! lol
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Reply #139 posted 02/02/06 7:45pm

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PurpleKnight said:

jimmyrogertodd said:

No dear I am just stating that there is alot of people here are supposed to be fans and never like anything that the man puts out. And my fandom is not at stake even if none of the rest of the so called fans ever like or love any of the rest of Prince music for as long he is making music. But to hate or dislike everything since 90 and on is kinna pitiful if you ask me. And you are right it is just a song.


How would it be pitiful? What if they genuinely just can't get into it? Should they force themselves to like it?


I think the theory is that its just not possible to dislike the song. So if you say you don't like it, you're lying, presumably to get the kind of enormous adrenalin rush that only communicating feigned disapointment to anonymous internet forum readers can provide. rolleyes
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Reply #140 posted 02/02/06 8:00pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

gaaaaah...."black sweat" actually sounds like the exact same kinna shit the brotha's been talking against: pre-packaged, mindless boolshittin-assed, mindless beats. the antithesis of all that's princely, in my eyes. the joint smells of an atypical friday night's dancing at the club, drunk as fuck and just about to beat down & snatch the weave outta the woman's hair next to you because she accidentally scuffed your high heeled pleather boots. it's getting props from some of ya'll, but...not me. it's getting pitched in the same bin i pitched "te amo cortisone" (*snort*) in. it just ain't my bag. bored

the video's no better either. the ladies in it were kinna cute and i kinda dug that pinstriped joint p had on, but still...gaaaaah. surprising thing about the vid, though: ol' boy actually looked his age in it for once. craziness! mr.green



clapping Thank you!!!!!
I love Prince to death. But this shit sounds like he took about 5 steps backward. This could have easily fit as one of the better tracks on New Power Soul. Even though I dug Te Amo Corti... damnit!!! Corazon...

This song is just as vomitrocious as Life O' The Party. Beautiful Loved and Blessed isn't too bad (ain't too good either), but Black Sweat is the song I'm hoping is not indicative of what 3121 sounds like.

However I won't make prejudgments yet. All of the singles so far have been on opposite angles as far as the styles. Here's hoping that 3121 is a completely mixed bag of predominantly interesting material pray
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Reply #141 posted 02/02/06 8:03pm

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Just heard the Song a view times.
I have to say,i do like it.
Beats are Great!!!Just Simple and Nice and Funky!!!
Not too commercial.
His singing is great,too.
But even that i do like this chorus much more that the Te-Amo-One(I like the song,but hate the hook),to me it still is a bit to monotone.
We'll c in a week.....
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Reply #142 posted 02/02/06 8:03pm

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Five steps backward, and he fell into a hole full of donkey urine.
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Reply #143 posted 02/02/06 8:04pm

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Just heard the Song a view times.
I have to say,i do like it.
Beats are Great!!!Just Simple and Nice and Funky!!!
Not too commercial.
His singing is great,too.
But even that i do like this chorus much more that the Te-Amo-One(I like the song,but hate the hook),to me it still is a bit to monotone.
We'll c in a week.....
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Reply #144 posted 02/02/06 8:16pm

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gargamelgibson said:

I love Prince to death. But this shit sounds like he took about 5 steps backward. This could have easily fit as one of the better tracks on New Power Soul. Even though I dug Te Amo Corti... damnit!!! Corazon...

exactly, it just sounds like a totally backwards-sounding/-feeling track to me. just another case of the brotha trying to actually fit in a bit, seems like.

This song is just as vomitrocious as Life O' The Party. Beautiful Loved and Blessed isn't too bad (ain't too good either), but Black Sweat is the song I'm hoping is not indicative of what 3121 sounds like.

However I won't make prejudgments yet. All of the singles so far have been on opposite angles as far as the styles. Here's hoping that 3121 is a completely mixed bag of predominantly interesting material pray

i haven't heard "blb" yet, so i dunno about that one. i ain't gonna write it off just yet, either. i'ma write off these first two singles, but not the whole entire thing.

i'm thinking that there'll be at least a couple tracks on the thing that'll make it salvageable. nod
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Reply #145 posted 02/02/06 8:21pm

dewalliz

Black Sweat and Beautiful Love and Blessed are ten times better than Te Amo Corzon whatever and almost nearly 100 times better than Musicology.

I am just feeling those two new songs and I do trust my ears when I hear some good music. Okay maybe the songs aren't so complex and also he's is going after the latest trend hoping for a big hit but so what, nothing wrong with that? but still in my opinion I am really digging for those songs. I haven't feel so excited like this since 1996 during his Emancipation era when I was jamming on songs like Betcha Golly Now and Somebody Somebody. Hell I wasnt too excited two years when he did Musicology as I am feeling right now. lol

For a minute there Prince had scared me when he released Te Amo Corzon but still after he said the album doesn't reflex his first single, I still have hope and confidence that there is going to be some likable songs. And after I heard Black Sweat, I must say that the old Prince I came to love is back. I even start to like Beautiful, Love, and Blessed.

And he is off to a great start, keep up the awesome work. headbang

Now I am going to listen to Black Sweat again. music
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Reply #146 posted 02/02/06 8:23pm

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cool I think the song is cool. Prince needs to keep bringing out the funk. music
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Reply #147 posted 02/02/06 8:26pm

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Te Amo Corezon is much better.
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Reply #148 posted 02/02/06 8:38pm

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OK, I just heard it, and...

I like it!

More reminiscent to me of "Big Tall Wall's" vocal arrangement over "Bob George's" beat than "Kiss," as most people mention. (And it's somehow also slightly reminiscent of a stripped down "Shockadelica" in feel.) That said, it's very sparse and -- praise be to Jehovah -- funky! FINALLY Prince drops us something funky! And I don't mean I-wanna-be-James-Brown funky... I mean PURPLE funky! cool

It's got some weak spots: I think the chorus is wack; at least one alto female voice in the background would be sexy (maybe a pissed off French girl or Latina sexy); and I'd have liked some nastier rhythm guitar and/or a downright FILTHY quicky guitar solo (a la "I Hate U") somewhere near the end. But these things could be fleshed out in a ferocious club version.

Best beat in a Prince song in years, by the way! (The Linn sound, albeit far more reined in, is back. woot!) And two of the most attitudinal lines I've heard him utter in ages: "You better take yo' woman and hide," and "You'll be screamin' like a white lady when I count to 3." falloff

I hope he goes for blood with this one. If it doesn't sell tons of CDs, at least it'll put him back on the dancefloors... and he didn't even have to disrespect women or threaten to shoot someone.

thumbs up!
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #149 posted 02/02/06 9:12pm

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I give it a B. hmmm And whomever compared it to Life o' the Barfbag? feeling ill NO.
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