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Reply #120 posted 08/21/05 8:26pm

sosgemini

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FonkAy said:

sosgemini said:




wow..are you serious?

respect the man's house? what does that have to do with anything? kevin was invited to a *public* event...nobody else who attended the celebration was forced to sign a disclosure...so why should kevin?


i hope you read our comments and respond to them....cause im really curious to hear where you are coming from on this.


Hey Curious George ... biggrin
I dont care either way...

I am talkin about bing paid 4 the Rainbow children doc ... not the interview (lol-- u think im talking about bing paid 4 answering the question of his DVD or that I care if he talks about Prince on his DVD - No)... I dont think prince would of paid Kev for the Rainbow Child doc until Kev signed ... Prince didnt no that Kev DIdnt sign the non-disclosure , he Did give it 2 Kev 2 sign tho tho.

What I figured....
Prince asked him 2 sign the non-disclosure because they were working 2gether...No? ... Paisley Park IS Prince's crib (or at least one of) ... nd I would have to guess that if U are working with Prince on Music or Video u would need a non-disclosure (i dont know , but something tells me Prince is that type, by now )... All I no is that Prince asked 4 Kev 2 sign it (sorry bout jelly belly ..just kiddin) nd Kev didnt.. nd now WE ARE TALkING About something that someone (b it Prince or whoever) didnt want 2 b bothered with bcause of all the BS ...
He didnt get paid? Good... He didnt sign.

I dont no if Prince or Kev are bad or good Ppl... but look
... How bout a BIC? ballpoint?
... Some ink...
...nd then they maybe,
get paid <- now that sounds Kool.
wink
Dont take this so serious please
... Im just playin...but... im sayin.
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there was zero contract negotiated for the documentary..prince's people asked kevin to come and film for a docu.....kevin, being the huge prince fan that his *is* agreed....

personally, i think prince should seriously re-think his con-tract requirment anyways...it goes against his religious beliefs..it goes against his free-dom of CON beliefs...and if as a living human being shouldnt be worried about what people think of him if...if he isnt an ass-hole then people wont report otherwise..and if he does he can sue for libal like many other celebrities have.....
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Reply #121 posted 08/21/05 8:43pm

bkw

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It amazes me that people would think that P is anything other than an arse to do business with. It is very well known. He has issues.
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #122 posted 08/21/05 8:47pm

DiamondGirl

bkw said:

It amazes me that people would think that P is anything other than an arse to do business with. It is very well known. He has issues.


Paranoid/trust issues. Stemming from his upbringing. He never trusted the Revolution pre and post 1984.
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Reply #123 posted 08/21/05 10:02pm

FonkAy

Funny thing is ... I dont think Prince or Kevin is an Arse/Ass/whatever ... they R who they R ... Thats what makes them, them, U, U .. nd me ,well, me ... Nd that makes it ALL KOOL.

Prince is the type who wants u 2 sign a Non-Disclosure AGREEment (not CONtract) if U Work with him and are getting paid ((heck - if ur on his(Prince's) time/money ... Y should Prince not make sure he gets what he pays 4??? U would want UR dollars worth))

Kevin is the type of person to Get a Non-Disclosure Agreement ....and just... I dont know... put it 2 the side and say ... um ... i'll sign it later... nd then... 4get about it.. u no ... like a ... piece of pie or , um , a fuse in a car that wouldnt normaly start without it ... so u start it... drive ...nd then ... u cant get back. wink {( Heck if U were 2 get a Non-Disclosure agreement from Anyone it would b kind of wild... Really WYLd if its from Prince )}

But seriously ... U gotta do better than- I got this non-disclosure agreement and... um... 4 got 2 sign it... ... yeah .... ... u no .... i get these non-dissies All The Time... its not wierd ... its something so frequent that its just something that u dont even read... nd if u did read...eehhhh...put it 2 the side nd 4 get 2 sign it. eek
^^^Gotta do better than that one. wink

but either way... its all kind of humorus... just try 2 laugh at it all. We/They are who we are.. Even U Curious - cause I aprreciate what U think nd What everyone else thinks, cause without that ... there would b no THIS (P.org / This World)... i see where U R coming from... ... I might not agree ... but heck man... ITS ALL GOOD.

Good Day Folks

ONE. cool
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Reply #124 posted 08/21/05 11:28pm

MoneyMade

† He should pay for his insurbordination. † GIVE THANKS NEXT TIME KS.†




MONEYMADE
TALENT ON LOAN FROM GOD!!!
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Reply #125 posted 08/22/05 4:34am

sosgemini

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FonkAy said:

Funny thing is ... I dont think Prince or Kevin is an Arse/Ass/whatever ... they R who they R ... Thats what makes them, them, U, U .. nd me ,well, me ... Nd that makes it ALL KOOL.

Prince is the type who wants u 2 sign a Non-Disclosure AGREEment (not CONtract) if U Work with him and are getting paid ((heck - if ur on his(Prince's) time/money ... Y should Prince not make sure he gets what he pays 4??? U would want UR dollars worth))

Kevin is the type of person to Get a Non-Disclosure Agreement ....and just... I dont know... put it 2 the side and say ... um ... i'll sign it later... nd then... 4get about it.. u no ... like a ... piece of pie or , um , a fuse in a car that wouldnt normaly start without it ... so u start it... drive ...nd then ... u cant get back. wink {( Heck if U were 2 get a Non-Disclosure agreement from Anyone it would b kind of wild... Really WYLd if its from Prince )}

But seriously ... U gotta do better than- I got this non-disclosure agreement and... um... 4 got 2 sign it... ... yeah .... ... u no .... i get these non-dissies All The Time... its not wierd ... its something so frequent that its just something that u dont even read... nd if u did read...eehhhh...put it 2 the side nd 4 get 2 sign it. eek
^^^Gotta do better than that one. wink

but either way... its all kind of humorus... just try 2 laugh at it all. We/They are who we are.. Even U Curious - cause I aprreciate what U think nd What everyone else thinks, cause without that ... there would b no THIS (P.org / This World)... i see where U R coming from... ... I might not agree ... but heck man... ITS ALL GOOD.

Good Day Folks

ONE. cool
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kevin never was told to sign the disclosure..the person who talked to kevin forgot to sign *her* disclosure...

am i right folks? help; clarification needed...
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Reply #126 posted 08/22/05 5:16am

freakyfeet

sosgemini said:

FonkAy said:

Funny thing is ... I dont think Prince or Kevin is an Arse/Ass/whatever ... they R who they R ... Thats what makes them, them, U, U .. nd me ,well, me ... Nd that makes it ALL KOOL.

Prince is the type who wants u 2 sign a Non-Disclosure AGREEment (not CONtract) if U Work with him and are getting paid ((heck - if ur on his(Prince's) time/money ... Y should Prince not make sure he gets what he pays 4??? U would want UR dollars worth))

Kevin is the type of person to Get a Non-Disclosure Agreement ....and just... I dont know... put it 2 the side and say ... um ... i'll sign it later... nd then... 4get about it.. u no ... like a ... piece of pie or , um , a fuse in a car that wouldnt normaly start without it ... so u start it... drive ...nd then ... u cant get back. wink {( Heck if U were 2 get a Non-Disclosure agreement from Anyone it would b kind of wild... Really WYLd if its from Prince )}

But seriously ... U gotta do better than- I got this non-disclosure agreement and... um... 4 got 2 sign it... ... yeah .... ... u no .... i get these non-dissies All The Time... its not wierd ... its something so frequent that its just something that u dont even read... nd if u did read...eehhhh...put it 2 the side nd 4 get 2 sign it. eek
^^^Gotta do better than that one. wink

but either way... its all kind of humorus... just try 2 laugh at it all. We/They are who we are.. Even U Curious - cause I aprreciate what U think nd What everyone else thinks, cause without that ... there would b no THIS (P.org / This World)... i see where U R coming from... ... I might not agree ... but heck man... ITS ALL GOOD.

Good Day Folks

ONE. cool
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kevin never was told to sign the disclosure..the person who talked to kevin forgot to sign *her* disclosure...

am i right folks? help; clarification needed...



Nope - it was about Stephanie forgetting to chase Kevin to sign his.
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Reply #127 posted 08/22/05 6:26am

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freakyfeet said:

sosgemini said:



kevin never was told to sign the disclosure..the person who talked to kevin forgot to sign *her* disclosure...

am i right folks? help; clarification needed...



Nope - it was about Stephanie forgetting to chase Kevin to sign his.



your right...the piece is really harsh to read..i had to re-read it three times to figure out who was saying what....


lol


still cant believe that some people are faulting smith for not "respecting prince's house"...prince needs to respect his religious beliefs and the human race and cut this CON-tract bullsh*t.
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Reply #128 posted 08/22/05 9:02am

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Seems to me that Mr. Smith didn't really get pissed off until Prince confirmed the whole White Man = Devil thing. He seemeed to get really pissed when Prince said "If the zhoe fits"...
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Reply #129 posted 08/22/05 10:05am

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ha ha... That is great he responded. You gotta love the internet.

I love Skipper as much as Kevin and want to hear the truth about him. I am not fan that believes he is God or above reproach. I like seeing his complexities, insecurities and quirks. I was simply responding to how that last line read....

"There's another DVD, 'Evening with Kevin Smith 2: Evening Harder' where I talk about him again."


That sounds like a selling point to me. No Shame in it, It just is. Unless he was misquoted. I'm not saying he will get rich, but IT IS a selling point, for some skipper fanatics. Shit, how many people here will buy it to hear what he has to say about skipper "again?"

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It has become a selling point for Kevin even if that was not the plan and P is not in the creative rut that Kevin is in. People are coming to see P in concert and buying his CD's People are not going out to see Kevin's movies.



Yep.
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Reply #130 posted 08/23/05 2:19am

freakyfeet

yrh said:

laurarichardson said:


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It has become a selling point for Kevin even if that was not the plan and P is not in the creative rut that Kevin is in. People are coming to see P in concert and buying his CD's People are not going out to see Kevin's movies.



Yep.


How many people bought the Kevin Smith DVD just because of the Prince thing?

Come on, it would only be the hardcore 200-300 and anyway, most of those have found a way to download it (I know I did) and therefore have no reason to buy it.

You think the Prince fans that bought the DVD to see that piece really made a difference to the numbers ?

Oh and by the way - do the figures on Kevin Smith's movies - I think you'll be a little suprised at how much money the man makes. Concerts pay a one off amount whereas as movies pay a perpetual income. And I can bet you that the millions he earns he doesn't spunk up the wall on videos that never get released and unnecessary lawsuit costs.
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Reply #131 posted 08/24/05 8:12am

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freakyfeet said:

yrh said:




Yep.


How many people bought the Kevin Smith DVD just because of the Prince thing?

Come on, it would only be the hardcore 200-300 and anyway, most of those have found a way to download it (I know I did) and therefore have no reason to buy it.

You think the Prince fans that bought the DVD to see that piece really made a difference to the numbers ?

Oh and by the way - do the figures on Kevin Smith's movies - I think you'll be a little suprised at how much money the man makes. Concerts pay a one off amount whereas as movies pay a perpetual income. And I can bet you that the millions he earns he doesn't spunk up the wall on videos that never get released and unnecessary lawsuit costs.



at least i admit that *both* artist are in a creative rut...damn...talk about, "my daddy can beat up your daddy" bullsh*t.
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Reply #132 posted 08/24/05 10:57pm

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freakyfeet said:

yrh said:




Yep.


How many people bought the Kevin Smith DVD just because of the Prince thing?

Come on, it would only be the hardcore 200-300 and anyway,



Thus he'd be making money and we are in agreement. He's making that job pay off one way or another. We aren't saying he's getting rich or getting over, just making $$$ off his prince story. *can't stop thinking about dave chappelle's bill clinton joke* lol lol
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Reply #133 posted 08/25/05 12:59am

freakyfeet

yrh said:

freakyfeet said:



How many people bought the Kevin Smith DVD just because of the Prince thing?

Come on, it would only be the hardcore 200-300 and anyway,



Thus he'd be making money and we are in agreement. He's making that job pay off one way or another. We aren't saying he's getting rich or getting over, just making $$$ off his prince story. *can't stop thinking about dave chappelle's bill clinton joke* lol lol


It wouldn't have been a story at all if Prince had acted professional
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Reply #134 posted 08/25/05 4:58am

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freakyfeet said:

yrh said:




Thus he'd be making money and we are in agreement. He's making that job pay off one way or another. We aren't saying he's getting rich or getting over, just making $$$ off his prince story. *can't stop thinking about dave chappelle's bill clinton joke* lol lol


It wouldn't have been a story at all if Prince had acted professional

or if Prince would have just said "thank you" to kevin for coming to film something for free.
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