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Reply #210 posted 05/08/05 9:44pm

Lovesexxy71

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MsLegs said:

kookie said:




I know that's right.

Give it time. The truth will reveal its self and we will be hearing about Prince's 3rd divorce. lol


THIRD!!?? I might be lost here...
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Reply #211 posted 05/08/05 10:08pm

Hotlegs

Lovesexxy71 said:

MsLegs said:


Give it time. The truth will reveal its self and we will be hearing about Prince's 2rd divorce. lol


THIRD!!?? I might be lost here...

Second divorce. I stand corrcted. My bad. lol
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Reply #212 posted 05/08/05 11:48pm

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KaleidoscopeEyes said:

Krystal666 said:

I agree with this. Prince seems to get very angry and defensive when the media treats him as a washed up old has been. So maybe there is a part of him that likes Hollywood fawning over him.



Of course there is. That's why he likes people to know the celebrities and bigshots he associates with. That's why it pisses him off when people don't appreciate his musical output to the degree he feels they should (I agree with this on the level that people should appreciate Prince's music over a lot of the other dreck that's out there).

This is purely armchair psychology on my part and I admit it, but I truly feel that Prince's "big ego", his control issues, his hangups and proclivities regarding women, and a few other things say that Prince has major, lifelong, and really deep seated self-esteem issues.

Back back to the photos/paparazzi thing specifically: imo, Prince loves & craves that he's considered "star" enough and interesting enough by the public that they care enough to want his picture; he hates that he can't always control WHEN that will happen or the circumstances.
[Edited 5/8/05 16:38pm]


Now you hit the nail on the head.
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Reply #213 posted 05/08/05 11:51pm

prodigalfan

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Hotlegs said:

Lovesexxy71 said:



THIRD!!?? I might be lost here...

Second divorce. I stand corrcted. My bad. lol


Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't want to ask. first I thought you meant the way he annulled Mayte then divorced her...then I wasn't sure.. but I didn't want to look dumb and ask since no one else asked. redface lol
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Reply #214 posted 05/08/05 11:53pm

Hotlegs

Hotlegs said:

Krystal666 said:



Yeah that is actually why I belive he jumps from woman to woman. I think it is because really he is so insecure...yeah sure maybe he gets bored too but I think if he felt good about himself he could truly love someone and they could love him back just for the person he is. I think Prince hasn't been in love that much but lust and just mistakes infatuation with a woman as love. I think the woman he was really in love with was Susannah and those feelings were too overwhelming for him becuase of his low self image. Ulitmatly I hope Prince really does realise how great he is as well...because so many people love him for who he is. biggrin


hmmm Some of his insecurity could stim from his Napolean Complex(lack of height) and just plain boredom. Boredom with mononogamy is common place with musicians/entertainers b/c they know that they can get any model, actress, and groupee hoes in every area code just by the drop of the hat.
[Edited 5/8/05 21:36pm]
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Reply #215 posted 05/09/05 1:27am

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prodigalfan said:

KaleidoscopeEyes said:




Of course there is. That's why he likes people to know the celebrities and bigshots he associates with. That's why it pisses him off when people don't appreciate his musical output to the degree he feels they should (I agree with this on the level that people should appreciate Prince's music over a lot of the other dreck that's out there).

This is purely armchair psychology on my part and I admit it, but I truly feel that Prince's "big ego", his control issues, his hangups and proclivities regarding women, and a few other things say that Prince has major, lifelong, and really deep seated self-esteem issues.

Back back to the photos/paparazzi thing specifically: imo, Prince loves & craves that he's considered "star" enough and interesting enough by the public that they care enough to want his picture; he hates that he can't always control WHEN that will happen or the circumstances.
[Edited 5/8/05 16:38pm]


Now you hit the nail on the head.

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Maybe your a newbe but, for years this guy would not even do an interview.
I don't see him as a publicty hound but, he is in the entertainment industry and he needs to promote himself and like most celebrities he wants to control the PR.
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Reply #216 posted 05/09/05 1:31am

Novabreaker

Hotlegs said:

Lovesexxy71 said:



THIRD!!?? I might be lost here...

Second divorce. I stand corrcted. My bad. lol


No, I think "third" it is going to be, indeed. You're just looking a few more years (/months, really) into the future. I say it's far more healthy for Prince to ditch that jehova's-witness-stalker-a-wife, and go for his own type instead. Which is as we know very well by now the latin-beauty-queen-turned-singer-model-will-have-sex-for-fame -type. I have no reason to doubt the validity of this rumour.

And btw, there's nothing more Republican than writing songs that criticize Bush.
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Reply #217 posted 05/09/05 2:29am

Hotlegs

Novabreaker said:

Hotlegs said:


Second divorce. I stand corrcted. My bad. lol


No, I think "third" it is going to be, indeed. You're just looking a few more years (/months, really) into the future. I say it's far more healthy for Prince to ditch that jehova's-witness-stalker-a-wife, and go for his own type instead. Which is as we know very well by now the latin-beauty-queen-turned-singer-model-will-have-sex-for-fame -type. I have no reason to doubt the validity of this rumour.

And btw, there's nothing more Republican than writing songs that criticize Bush.

hmmm Nova, eye see great minds think alike wink .
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Reply #218 posted 05/09/05 5:12am

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Maybe your a newbe but, for years this guy would not even do an interview. I don't see him as a publicty hound but, he is in the entertainment industry and he needs to promote himself and like most celebrities he wants to control the PR.


I'm hardly a "newbe" (newbie?). lol I've been into the whole Prince thing for over 20 years so I am very aware of Prince's past in relation to interviews/publicity/etc.

But discussing this with you is clearly pointless. biggrin
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Reply #219 posted 05/09/05 6:32am

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Novabreaker said:

Hotlegs said:


Second divorce. I stand corrcted. My bad. lol


No, I think "third" it is going to be, indeed. You're just looking a few more years (/months, really) into the future. I say it's far more healthy for Prince to ditch that jehova's-witness-stalker-a-wife, and go for his own type instead. Which is as we know very well by now the latin-beauty-queen-turned-singer-model-will-have-sex-for-fame -type. I have no reason to doubt the validity of this rumour.

And btw, there's nothing more Republican than writing songs that criticize Bush.


Thanks for that...I was going to respond that one can still be a Republican and dislike Bush.
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #220 posted 05/09/05 6:43am

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KaleidoscopeEyes said:

laurarichardson said:

Maybe your a newbe but, for years this guy would not even do an interview. I don't see him as a publicty hound but, he is in the entertainment industry and he needs to promote himself and like most celebrities he wants to control the PR.


I'm hardly a "newbe" (newbie?). lol I've been into the whole Prince thing for over 20 years so I am very aware of Prince's past in relation to interviews/publicity/etc.

But discussing this with you is clearly pointless. biggrin

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Yes, if you have been a fan for over 20 years and you don't see the recent qwest for PR as being just that recent this conversation is pointless.

I don't suppose it occured to you that running around on your wife is not something anyone would want PR for (LOL)
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Reply #221 posted 05/09/05 6:48am

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Krystal666 said:

KaleidoscopeEyes said:



For whatever reason(s), Prince doesn't see himself the way others do, or the way he truly is. I have always gotten the feeling it's as though he is constantly trying to prove his worth in many aspects - talent, looks, women. I'm sure some of that that is just posturing for his persona, but it goes deeper than that.

I hope one day Prince realizes just how incredible and worthy he is, for his own peace of mind and soul.


Yeah that is actually why I belive he jumps from woman to woman. I think it is because really he is so insecure...yeah sure maybe he gets bored too but I think if he felt good about himself he could truly love someone and they could love him back just for the person he is. I think Prince hasn't been in love that much but lust and just mistakes infatuation with a woman as love. I think the woman he was really in love with was Susannah and those feelings were too overwhelming for him becuase of his low self image. Ulitmatly I hope Prince really does realise how great he is as well...because so many people love him for who he is. biggrin


Yea, Mayte, looked like a Soulmate. smile
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Reply #222 posted 05/09/05 6:51am

beret1022

Hotlegs said:

Krystal666 said:



Yeah that is actually why I belive he jumps from woman to woman. I think it is because really he is so insecure...yeah sure maybe he gets bored too but I think if he felt good about himself he could truly love someone and they could love him back just for the person he is. I think Prince hasn't been in love that much but lust and just mistakes infatuation with a woman as love. I think the woman he was really in love with was Susannah and those feelings were too overwhelming for him becuase of his low self image. Ulitmatly I hope Prince really does realise how great he is as well...because so many people love him for who he is. biggrin


hmmm Some of his insecurity could stim from his Napolean Complex(lack of height) and just plain boredom. Boredom with mononogamy is common place with musicians/entertainers b/c they know that they can get any model, actress, and groupee hoes in every area code just by the drop of the hat.
[Edited 5/8/05 21:36pm]



And even with everyday broke mofo's.
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Reply #223 posted 05/09/05 6:59am

kidcreole

onenitealone said:

Damn! eek Ages ago, I said I'd love to hear a Latin-tinged album from P. Look at how many of his songs have those latino breakdowns - if this is the case, I'm gonna LOVE it.


Just make sure Sheila's involved. cool



I dont know how you can just assume it will be latin music simply because he is in Panama
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Reply #224 posted 05/09/05 7:17am

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kidcreole said:

onenitealone said:

Damn! eek Ages ago, I said I'd love to hear a Latin-tinged album from P. Look at how many of his songs have those latino breakdowns - if this is the case, I'm gonna LOVE it.


Just make sure Sheila's involved. cool



I dont know how you can just assume it will be latin music simply because he is in Panama



True - but that's why I said "...if this is the case". wink

Anyway, rock, funk, pop, Latin American, whatever it is - I just want the music.
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Reply #225 posted 05/09/05 7:21am

Novabreaker

The funny thing is even if there exists just a few photos of Prince in Panama we have already linked him romantically with the former Miss Panama, his fall of the JW religion and the matrimony with his wife and a new latin-oriented direction in his music! smile

Seriously, for all we know he might just been there for a couple of days of vacation.
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Reply #226 posted 05/09/05 7:36am

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laurarichardson said:

prodigalfan said:



Now you hit the nail on the head.

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Maybe your a newbe but, for years this guy would not even do an interview.
I don't see him as a publicty hound but, he is in the entertainment industry and he needs to promote himself and like most celebrities he wants to control the PR.


Well, I think there are some things he does that does attract attention, because he wants it. Some of his recent antics in restaraunts attract attention. Like having his entourage request that all other diners not look at him etc. The fact is, you have celebrities that have been around longer MUCH longer than Prince and just as popular and respected in their field, and you NEVER hear any crap like that about them. DeNiro, Cosby, Winfrey. These people go out and try to act as average and normal as they can, and the fans respect that and leave them along, (except the gawking, which people are going to do, after all, you are a celebrity right?) Then you have Prince that has his meat heads take a fans camera. Do you think no one else gets their pics taken in public places. They do, you just don't hear about it, because those celebrities just continue on.
And as far as your own statement "he needs to promote himself and like most celebrities he wants to control the PR." That in itself gives credence to my point that Prince wants publicity on HIS terms.
Don't even need to be a fan, let alone a "newbe" to recognize this.

smile
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Reply #227 posted 05/09/05 7:38am

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KaleidoscopeEyes said:

laurarichardson said:

Maybe your a newbe but, for years this guy would not even do an interview. I don't see him as a publicty hound but, he is in the entertainment industry and he needs to promote himself and like most celebrities he wants to control the PR.


I'm hardly a "newbe" (newbie?). lol I've been into the whole Prince thing for over 20 years so I am very aware of Prince's past in relation to interviews/publicity/etc.

But discussing this with you is clearly pointless. biggrin


OH, I thought this statement was directed at me, well anyway, my response still stands. Kaleidoscope, you and I see things for what they are. wink
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Reply #228 posted 05/09/05 8:44am

Heiress

Novabreaker said:

The funny thing is even if there exists just a few photos of Prince in Panama we have already linked him romantically with the former Miss Panama, his fall of the JW religion and the matrimony with his wife and a new latin-oriented direction in his music! smile

Seriously, for all we know he might just been there for a couple of days of vacation.


This thread is very insightful indeed; just for the fact of seeing everyone projecting their sordid little fantasies on Prince.
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Reply #229 posted 05/09/05 8:45am

Heiress

chestro18 said:

Two things, since Ruben bLades has become the person in charge of Tourism in Panama, he has been inviting alot of his famous friends down there. Ruben ad Prince are cool.
Also, Panama has one of the largest JW temples and following in Panama City,people from all over the world go to see it which perhaps explain his reason for being down there.

Or perhaps, he is down there doing his thing but I doubt it, too public.


JW temples?

I've been a JW for over 30 years, and I've never heard of us having "temples"...
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Reply #230 posted 05/09/05 10:58am

BobbyPin

prodigalfan said:

laurarichardson said:


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Maybe your a newbe but, for years this guy would not even do an interview.
I don't see him as a publicty hound but, he is in the entertainment industry and he needs to promote himself and like most celebrities he wants to control the PR.


Well, I think there are some things he does that does attract attention, because he wants it. Some of his recent antics in restaraunts attract attention. Like having his entourage request that all other diners not look at him etc. The fact is, you have celebrities that have been around longer MUCH longer than Prince and just as popular and respected in their field, and you NEVER hear any crap like that about them. DeNiro, Cosby, Winfrey. These people go out and try to act as average and normal as they can, and the fans respect that and leave them along, (except the gawking, which people are going to do, after all, you are a celebrity right?) Then you have Prince that has his meat heads take a fans camera. Do you think no one else gets their pics taken in public places. They do, you just don't hear about it, because those celebrities just continue on.
And as far as your own statement "he needs to promote himself and like most celebrities he wants to control the PR." That in itself gives credence to my point that Prince wants publicity on HIS terms.
Don't even need to be a fan, let alone a "newbe" to recognize this.

smile


How do you know all this stuff goes down at the restaraunts? How do you know he was even there?

Doesn't anyone here know how the tabloids work? They make up shit. Sometimes its true, sometimes it isn't. In this case it isn't.

Why would Prince want badpublicity? When he's on top of his game? C'mon. Yes all celebritieswant to control their image but they are not gonna put out they were divas at restaurants. Only tabloids who need to fill up space in their blurbs will take a stab at making up a "scenario" that can be easily overlooked.
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Reply #231 posted 05/09/05 11:34am

Universaluv

The famous Panamanian musical group, the Rabanes, rule out that they are the ones who will participate in the video being filmed in Panama by the American artist, Prince, because they will be in a series of presentations in Nicaragua during the days of filming. It was recently announced that Prince wanted to record a video in Panama because various local groups had attracted his attention. National News.

http://www.bulletinpa.com...php?id=183
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Reply #232 posted 05/09/05 12:36pm

Hotlegs

beret1022 said:

Hotlegs said:



hmmm Some of his insecurity could stim from his Napolean Complex(lack of height) and just plain boredom. Boredom with mononogamy is common place with musicians/entertainers b/c they know that they can get any model, actress, and groupee hoes in every area code just by the drop of the hat.
[Edited 5/8/05 21:36pm]



And even with everyday broke mofo's.

That 2.
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Reply #233 posted 05/09/05 12:44pm

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BobbyPin said:

prodigalfan said:



Well, I think there are some things he does that does attract attention, because he wants it. Some of his recent antics in restaraunts attract attention. Like having his entourage request that all other diners not look at him etc. The fact is, you have celebrities that have been around longer MUCH longer than Prince and just as popular and respected in their field, and you NEVER hear any crap like that about them. DeNiro, Cosby, Winfrey. These people go out and try to act as average and normal as they can, and the fans respect that and leave them along, (except the gawking, which people are going to do, after all, you are a celebrity right?) Then you have Prince that has his meat heads take a fans camera. Do you think no one else gets their pics taken in public places. They do, you just don't hear about it, because those celebrities just continue on.
And as far as your own statement "he needs to promote himself and like most celebrities he wants to control the PR." That in itself gives credence to my point that Prince wants publicity on HIS terms.
Don't even need to be a fan, let alone a "newbe" to recognize this.

smile


How do you know all this stuff goes down at the restaraunts? How do you know he was even there?

Doesn't anyone here know how the tabloids work? They make up shit. Sometimes its true, sometimes it isn't. In this case it isn't.

Why would Prince want badpublicity? When he's on top of his game? C'mon. Yes all celebritieswant to control their image but they are not gonna put out they were divas at restaurants. Only tabloids who need to fill up space in their blurbs will take a stab at making up a "scenario" that can be easily overlooked.


Uhmmm to quote you...."How do you know all this stuff goes down at the restaraunts? How do you know he was even there?"

wink
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Reply #234 posted 05/09/05 12:46pm

Hotlegs

BobbyPin said:

prodigalfan said:



Well, I think there are some things he does that does attract attention, because he wants it. Some of his recent antics in restaraunts attract attention. Like having his entourage request that all other diners not look at him etc. The fact is, you have celebrities that have been around longer MUCH longer than Prince and just as popular and respected in their field, and you NEVER hear any crap like that about them. DeNiro, Cosby, Winfrey. These people go out and try to act as average and normal as they can, and the fans respect that and leave them along, (except the gawking, which people are going to do, after all, you are a celebrity right?) Then you have Prince that has his meat heads take a fans camera. Do you think no one else gets their pics taken in public places. They do, you just don't hear about it, because those celebrities just continue on.
And as far as your own statement "he needs to promote himself and like most celebrities he wants to control the PR." That in itself gives credence to my point that Prince wants publicity on HIS terms.
Don't even need to be a fan, let alone a "newbe" to recognize this.

smile


How do you know all this stuff goes down at the restaraunts? How do you know he was even there?

Doesn't anyone here know how the tabloids work? They make up shit. Sometimes its true, sometimes it isn't. In this case it isn't.

Why would Prince want badpublicity? When he's on top of his game? C'mon. Yes all celebritieswant to control their image but they are not gonna put out they were divas at restaurants. Only tabloids who need to fill up space in their blurbs will take a stab at making up a "scenario" that can be easily overlooked.


But at the same time, the image you project to tabloids is what they have to work with. You can fool some people some of the time but you can't fool the camera. There have several occassions when the tabloids were quite accurate and the news departments end up reporting whats happen.
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Reply #235 posted 05/09/05 12:51pm

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Hotlegs said:



But at the same time, the image you project to tabloids is what they have to work with. You can fool some people some of the time but you can't fool the camera. There have several occassions when the tabloids were quite accurate and the news departments end up reporting whats happen.


Thanks sweetie, I thought that response... just couldn't get the old 486 brain to work to say it as well as you did. wink
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Reply #236 posted 05/09/05 1:02pm

Hotlegs

prodigalfan said:

Hotlegs said:



But at the same time, the image you project to tabloids is what they have to work with. You can fool some people some of the time but you can't fool the camera. There have several occassions when the tabloids were quite accurate and the news departments end up reporting whats happen.


Thanks sweetie, I thought that response... just couldn't get the old 486 brain to work to say it as well as you did. wink
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Your Welcome. eye see great minds think alike. highfive
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Reply #237 posted 05/09/05 1:02pm

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BobbyPin said:

How do you know all this stuff goes down at the restaraunts? How do you know he was even there?

Doesn't anyone here know how the tabloids work? They make up shit. Sometimes its true, sometimes it isn't. In this case it isn't.

Why would Prince want badpublicity? When he's on top of his game? C'mon. Yes all celebritieswant to control their image but they are not gonna put out they were divas at restaurants. Only tabloids who need to fill up space in their blurbs will take a stab at making up a "scenario" that can be easily overlooked.


I guess you get all your news from npgmc, right?
Pass the Purple Koolaid.drink

lol
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Reply #238 posted 05/09/05 1:04pm

Hotlegs

prodigalfan said:

BobbyPin said:

How do you know all this stuff goes down at the restaraunts? How do you know he was even there?

Doesn't anyone here know how the tabloids work? They make up shit. Sometimes its true, sometimes it isn't. In this case it isn't.

Why would Prince want badpublicity? When he's on top of his game? C'mon. Yes all celebritieswant to control their image but they are not gonna put out they were divas at restaurants. Only tabloids who need to fill up space in their blurbs will take a stab at making up a "scenario" that can be easily overlooked.


I guess you get all your news from npgmc, right?
Pass the Purple Koolaid.drink

lol
Tell'em Prodigalfan! wink
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Reply #239 posted 05/09/05 1:07pm

Universaluv

No wonder he doesn't like photographers. 2 pictures of him in Panama and people are disecting the state of his marriage and psychoanalyzng his need for attention.

smile
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