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Reply #60 posted 12/22/04 8:26am

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Taureau said:

starbass said:



Musicology was the most uninspiring piece of crap I've ever heard and the album which destroyed any interest I had with the guy. RIP


Erm, why do you waste you time here then? wacky

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Reply #61 posted 12/22/04 8:43am

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You're being too quick to the trigger, I think. I loved The Rainbow Children IMMEDIATELY! The first time I put it on, I knew it was the best thing Prince did since LoveSexy (it actually reminded me a bit of LS). It's still my third favorite P album ever created (after Purple Rain and LoveSexy). At times, it's my favorite Prince album. It is always in my top three and always will be, unless Prince pulls a miracle out of his ass (that could be either gross or amazing -- ass miracles are funny that way).

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Alex
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Oh, I didn't mean to say that everyone hated on TRC. Just that there was some overwhelming negativity for it on here, so much so that it actually drove me away from the org for a while. I enjoyed the hell out of TRC just like I have all of his albums. I've never been able to compare or make favorites of his albums (songs yes, albums no). I enjoy each album as it comes, knowing that I shouldn't expect it to sound a certain way because each one always brings something different.

Man if more people on this site listened to a Prince album the way we listen to them, there would be a lot less criticism of his work. I got the revelation about not comparing the past with the present before Musicology came out and I firmly believe that that helped me enjoy Musicology the way that I did. He's not who he was in 1987 so the music won't sound like it. And that look back on TRC and the org was dead on. People were complaining for months about the CD but when I heard it, I thought and still think that it was amazing. My point is, enjoy the albums for what they are and don't listen to them with the thought of "I hope it's like SOTT or Lovesexy" cause you WILL be disappointed.

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I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #62 posted 12/22/04 11:43am

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You have to imagine if Prince read this thread he'd be happy that his music is being debated, or s**t on from a great height by some, and not his image.
Strange though, that as he makes music he enjoys and hopes that others will enjoy, that some on here still feel they have to justify WHY they like a certain album/song. That surely isn't the point. For those who don't like it, fine, but lets not disrespect the talent and effort put into the album. For those who like it, enjoy, who really cares if the next person does or not? Will it enhance your enjoyment if someone else likes it? Probably not.
Not that it matters, but I pretty much enjoy every Prince album, but there's plenty of other artists I like about whom I have read many negative comments, here and elsewhere. How many negative comments does Prince's music normally get? Does that make it poor? Not in my eyes.
This has been a pretty much long winded way of saying if you like the music, who cares what the next person thinks.
So look into the mirror, do u recognise some1? Is it who u always hoped u would become, when u were young?
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Reply #63 posted 12/22/04 11:45am

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Musicology was trash. Prince use to kick ass, but now he just makes me sick.


Then get the fuck out chair
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Reply #64 posted 12/22/04 11:52am

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You have to imagine if Prince read this thread he'd be happy that his music is being debated, or s**t on from a great height by some, and not his image.
Strange though, that as he makes music he enjoys and hopes that others will enjoy, that some on here still feel they have to justify WHY they like a certain album/song. That surely isn't the point. For those who don't like it, fine, but lets not disrespect the talent and effort put into the album. For those who like it, enjoy, who really cares if the next person does or not? Will it enhance your enjoyment if someone else likes it? Probably not.
Not that it matters, but I pretty much enjoy every Prince album, but there's plenty of other artists I like about whom I have read many negative comments, here and elsewhere. How many negative comments does Prince's music normally get? Does that make it poor? Not in my eyes.
This has been a pretty much long winded way of saying if you like the music, who cares what the next person thinks.
Some seem to get dissing the music mixed up with dissing the man. It's not the same.
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Reply #65 posted 12/23/04 8:08pm

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wdrew said:

The man is so far ahead of his time, even his fans take 3 albuns to catch up.



cosign that! I keep hearing good things about TRC, I think that will be my next purchase. Gosh I hope it is better than Batman. confused
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Reply #66 posted 12/24/04 11:50am

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vivid said:

Q Magazine put Musicology at No. 18 in top 50 albums of the year here in the UK too. Saying:

Goodby Squiggle,
hello choruses.

Not just a return to form, Musicology was a full-blown Prince revival. With a gusto that suggested he'd suddenly remembered how to write a song, he banished shapeless funk jams and revelled in flexing his old muscles. The tltle track's James Brown - informed strut, Call My Name's show stopping love-letter and a raft of harmonies and OTT rock drama made it his best and biggest-selling album for a decade. Better still, it confirmed that he was , finally, happy to be Prince again. No wonder the likes of Andre 3000 and Beyonce queued up to pay homage.

In another section on ' The 100 best tracks you shouldn't miss!' If Eye Was The Man in Your Life is listed; 'Swaggering funk + monster chorus = vintage Prince.

Number 18 is pretty good considering the album wasn't a hit as such here.


especially as Green Days album was at 21.
So look into the mirror, do u recognise some1? Is it who u always hoped u would become, when u were young?
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Reply #67 posted 12/24/04 6:16pm

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Maybe the market place is not interested in anything better. Sign of the Times. only sold about 1 million copies back in 87.


It is true. Musicology is no Sign O the Times, 1999, or Purple Rain, but Prince has never done two albums that were alike. Back when Parade, ATWIAD and Signs was out, critics and some fans were saying "why can't he go back to doing stuff like "1999 and Purple Rain".

I think I like what Prince said to columnist Steven Ivory in a Black Beat article once. Steve asked him the same question and Prince's answer was. "If you want something like 1999 go listen to 1999. I'm someplace else now.

He said it before the Larry King interview. "I live in the NOW". I, personally, liked Musicology, but I did not expect it to sound anything like his past stuff. The Rainbow Children and N.E.W.S all sound different, so does every album he put out every year in the 80's/90's. That's how Prince is. He pleases some and doesn't please others.

The quote about the marketplace not being interested in anything better. You're right. They only seem to be interested in a bunch of bulls**t. Music will never be what it was. disbelief




This is the part about American pop culture I don't get; we have a short-term memory when it comes to the wrongdoings of the government (former friendly relations with Saddam Hussein) but we will turn around and demand that our pop stars be frozen.

SOTT is over and so is Musicology. Change is life. Musicology is not my favorite album either BUT many times when we hear something the first few times around we may not get it. I'm sure we will look back see this album a little differently than we do now. The title track actually has some bad (as in good) rhythm going on. It sounds simple but there are subtle things going on.

I just think we should STOP demanding that people repeat themselves. Let's be in the moment with the records and stop holding each release to the same exact standards as the last album.

Five
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Reply #68 posted 12/24/04 9:29pm

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I wish I could buy into the hype about Musicology, but to me, it's one of the worst albums of his career (but still decidedly better than New Power Soulless and S.N.O.O.Z.E.).

It's not that it's offensively bad. Infact, the album's mostly just pretty dull.

Almost no stand-out songs, no ambition or urgency detected, and overall, it's just Prince delivering the most safe as possible album that wouldn't get panned the way his other comeback attempt albums did.

It's solid, but really little more than slightly above blatantly mediocre.

The Gold Experience and Emancipation both CRUSH this album.

Give me one song off Musicology that comes anywhere close to something as amazing as songs like Shhh or The Love We Make and I'll cut off my genitals.
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Reply #69 posted 12/24/04 10:16pm

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I like Musicology and I'm glad it made the list.

But no song on there was transcendent . I mean, by Prince standards, they are all pretty mediocre.

None of them will survive as classics.



I think the last statement may be false. Call My Name is certainly gona stand the test of time on he R&B front. And there are many songs on his more "brilliant" LPs that are hardly remembered or never been heard. In fact most people have never heard of "GOLD", "RAVE" or even the ***** "TRC". "Musicology" and 2004 put Prince back on the mainstream map, it is his time once again to swim or die. I always equate "Musicology" to "Diamond and Pearls" in it's purpose and results. If u were there in the beginning of 1992 (after D&P and B4 "O)+>") Prince was again ( after the whole Graffiti Bridge fiasco, which was after the whole Under the Cherry..fiasco, which was after the whole "We Are the world" fiasco) considered to be one of the most powerful men in entertainment and then the name change thing and he blew it.
One has to wonder how powerful this guy would have been if his success had of stayed on a continuous line rather than a bi-annual broken line. It has only happened once and look how far that took him (1982-1985)
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