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Reply #30 posted 12/19/04 9:23am

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Musicology was the most uninspiring piece of crap I've ever heard and the album which destroyed any interest I had with the guy. RIP



Destroyed any interest you had with the guy? I think not, since you took the time to post your opinion. Apparently the guy still interests you enough to share with the rest of us. Positive or negative, if you're here, you're interested.



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Reply #31 posted 12/19/04 10:10am

poetbear68

As usual, except for Musicology and Tasty, none of the albums I purchased are on this list. What about the new releases that came out from Slipknot, or Lenny Kravitz, or A Perfect Circle? Who are they writing for anymore?

Disappointing...
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Reply #32 posted 12/19/04 1:31pm

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thedog said:

Musicology was trash. Prince use to kick ass, but now he just makes me sick.


Then get the fuck out chair


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Reply #33 posted 12/19/04 1:34pm

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starbass said:



Musicology was the most uninspiring piece of crap I've ever heard and the album which destroyed any interest I had with the guy. RIP



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Reply #34 posted 12/19/04 1:37pm

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NewPowerSista said:

OK, maybe I just don't understand; no, no maybe, I just don't understand. Please explain to me what the purpose is for people like "thedog" and "starbass" (and I only mention them because they are on this particular thread) to visit sites dedicated to Prince (or anyone else) if their only purpose is to introduce negativity to a post like this one. Why does one take the TIME and ENERGY to do that instead of dedicating it to something that makes them feel good? I'm open to any intelligent response.


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Reply #35 posted 12/19/04 1:41pm

prodigalfan

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Q magazine gave The Rainbow Children 4 stars actually, exactly the same rating
that Musicology got from them , although TRC was a far better album , not a great album , just better. I'm with some of the other people in this thread
who are saying Musiclolgy was a bit lame , I think so too . Just because we dislike a particular album doesnt mean we don't have "a purpose " on prince.org by the way , some of you people who love Musicology might not be so keen on
one of his other albums which I like and would defend to the hilt , live and let live eh .


I think it is not that they are saying that they don't like Musicology... but it is the tone of the message. I don't like ATWIAD and Batman... but I don't say that Prince is uninspired... just that on those albums, he didn't inspire me . It is all about how you do it.
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Reply #36 posted 12/19/04 2:08pm

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prodigalfan said:


I think it is not that they are saying that they don't like Musicology... but it is the tone of the message. I don't like ATWIAD and Batman... but I don't say that Prince is uninspired... just that on those albums, he didn't inspire me . It is all about how you do it.

- True. Every Prince album appeals for each fan in a different way. ´Musicology´ seemed to be intended to be a basic pop/retro album, nothing more than that. I am just curious about what he will do next. I wish Princey experimented more, like he did in the past. It would be the best of both worlds. A great band + experimental unique things.
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Reply #37 posted 12/19/04 10:06pm

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http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6769107

Musicology

Sometimes looking back is the best way to jump forward. "Kick the old-school joint," Prince tells himself in the one-man-band title track of this return to royal form, a fresh, focused hybrid of Dirty Mind's hard-rubber bounce and the encyclopedic moods of Sign 'o' the Times. When he goes into the classic slow grind of "Call My Name," you feel purple all over -- again.

Another reason I totally dislike RS's opinions & lists... lol CLASSIC SLOW GRIND of CALL MY NAME??? (ala DARLING NIKKI, maybre---I think NOT) This is more on the level of ADORE or NOTHING COMPARES. The CD ITSELF does not sound NEW...TRUE. Old school & cool, but with a NEW TWIST 4 PRINCE....again. He sounded surprisingly different IMHO, except 4 MUSICOLOGY which is thee cd's funkiest. 2nd in line: LIFE of the PARTY. All R very different from each other. I'm STILL in love with TRC. It is brilliant and the sound is supberb. The flow, the strokes, the story, the words, PRINCES VOICE is awesome. Yes, even the voicebox. Cant wait 4 his new one. He's not getting BETTER, ( he always WAS, IS, & WILL BE THE BEST musician ) just DIFFERENT. He CANT get any BETTER!
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Reply #38 posted 12/19/04 10:21pm

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Wooohooo! Go Baby!!
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Reply #39 posted 12/19/04 10:43pm

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I wouldn't say that Musicology is trash. I think it's a little slapped together though. It's tough on the guy, he has really has excelled in so many music genres- i think to do something that's really going to be fresh and surprising would mean him delving into opera and children's songs. I'd probably buy that too.
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Reply #40 posted 12/19/04 11:33pm

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thebiscuit said:

I wouldn't say that Musicology is trash. I think it's a little slapped together though. It's tough on the guy, he has really has excelled in so many music genres- i think to do something that's really going to be fresh and surprising would mean him delving into opera and children's songs. I'd probably buy that too.


I agree.....
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Reply #41 posted 12/20/04 1:32am

laws

Purplelicious said:

thebiscuit said:

I wouldn't say that Musicology is trash. I think it's a little slapped together though. It's tough on the guy, he has really has excelled in so many music genres- i think to do something that's really going to be fresh and surprising would mean him delving into opera and children's songs. I'd probably buy that too.


I agree.....
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Reply #42 posted 12/20/04 1:33am

laws

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Purplelicious said:



I agree.....



Prince needs more exposure.
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Reply #43 posted 12/20/04 1:52am

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"musicology" isn't by far a solid album--
and to compare it with albums such as "dirty mind" and "sign" is blasphemous.
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Reply #44 posted 12/20/04 5:09am

vivid

Q Magazine put Musicology at No. 18 in top 50 albums of the year here in the UK too. Saying:

Goodby Squiggle,
hello choruses.

Not just a return to form, Musicology was a full-blown Prince revival. With a gusto that suggested he'd suddenly remembered how to write a song, he banished shapeless funk jams and revelled in flexing his old muscles. The tltle track's James Brown - informed strut, Call My Name's show stopping love-letter and a raft of harmonies and OTT rock drama made it his best and biggest-selling album for a decade. Better still, it confirmed that he was , finally, happy to be Prince again. No wonder the likes of Andre 3000 and Beyonce queued up to pay homage.

In another section on ' The 100 best tracks you shouldn't miss!' If Eye Was The Man in Your Life is listed; 'Swaggering funk + monster chorus = vintage Prince.

Number 18 is pretty good considering the album wasn't a hit as such here.
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Reply #45 posted 12/20/04 5:09am

poetbear68

purpleone said:

"musicology" isn't by far a solid album--
and to compare it with albums such as "dirty mind" and "sign" is blasphemous.
rolling stone isn't what it used to be anymore..


Well, remember Sign was a pastiche of Dream Factory, Crystal Ball and Camille, 3 albums which got shelved for various reasons.

Also, Dirty Mind was Prince's try at a concept album, but it was hardly his best, so I don't think it's a fair comparison.

On the other hand, I thought Musicology was going to be a concept album, in the sense that it sounded like it was going to highlight Musicology. I maybe expected something more experimental.
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Reply #46 posted 12/20/04 5:16am

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I all agree that "Musicology" is not what we can call a solid album compared to "Rainbow Children" but we must admit that the way it sold is kind of a "revolution" in the music industry, it's probably why RS mentioned it.

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Reply #47 posted 12/20/04 7:24am

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To say that Musicology was trash is a bit harsh I think. It was a good album but it is in no way a classic or up to par with Prince's normal standard. If I remember correctly Musicology was never intended to be "cutting edge" but rather a radio friendly i.e. "consumer friendly" album. I think Prince definately succeeded in that area. Besides the ablum give-away promotion during the concert tour was a stroke of genius.

I'm also one who hopes that Prince goes back to the more experimental stuff. But whatever direction Prince chooses to go, it will be 200 times better than any of the crap that's out there now....
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Reply #48 posted 12/20/04 7:51am

TurnItUp

DAFUNKYOU said:

To say that Musicology was trash is a bit harsh I think. It was a good album but it is in no way a classic or up to par with Prince's normal standard. If I remember correctly Musicology was never intended to be "cutting edge" but rather a radio friendly i.e. "consumer friendly" album. I think Prince definately succeeded in that area. Besides the ablum give-away promotion during the concert tour was a stroke of genius.

I'm also one who hopes that Prince goes back to the more experimental stuff. But whatever direction Prince chooses to go, it will be 200 times better than any of the crap that's out there now....


Thank you. Agreed 100%. For all the haters. I don't think Prince is losing sleep over you calling is CD crap. Prince CD and tour did phenomenal whether you think so or not. Prince just keep doing what you're doing and nevermind the naysayers.
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Reply #49 posted 12/20/04 8:40am

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Personally, I found Musicology disappointing and think that comparing it to Sign borders on heresy. What's missing for me here is Prince's incredible sense of melody (some of the tracks on the album are all but tuneless, with the run of What Do U Want Me 2 Do?, The Marrying Kind and If Eye Was the Man in Ur Life being particularly egregious). The title track, Call My Name and On the Couch are nice genre exercises, but there is certainly nothing here approaching the innovation of Sign (with the possible exception of Reflection, which is a very interesting track).

It doesn't make you any less of a Prince fan to say that you think he's capable of better.
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Reply #50 posted 12/21/04 5:24am

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starbass said:

TheJourney4all7 said:



Chill.

Musicology was not innovative or inspiring, but it was a simple, nice, mainstream pop album. That's it.

It's not a masterpiece, but there's no reason to hate on it.


Why should I be influenced by your opinion, I thought it was absolute rubbish...simple...accept and move on

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Why are you still at this site. No one says you have to like everything P does but, let's be real it is pop music. People were not going to run out and buy the Rainbow Children and radio certainly would not play anything from it. You must sell records to be viable in the music industry. Musicology is a good little pop record.
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Reply #51 posted 12/21/04 5:26am

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Ace said:

Personally, I found Musicology disappointing and think that comparing it to Sign borders on heresy. What's missing for me here is Prince's incredible sense of melody (some of the tracks on the album are all but tuneless, with the run of What Do U Want Me 2 Do?, The Marrying Kind and If Eye Was the Man in Ur Life being particularly egregious). The title track, Call My Name and On the Couch are nice genre exercises, but there is certainly nothing here approaching the innovation of Sign (with the possible exception of Reflection, which is a very interesting track).

It doesn't make you any less of a Prince fan to say that you think he's capable of better.

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Maybe the market place is not interested in anything better. Sign of the Times. only sold about 1 million copies back in 87.
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Reply #52 posted 12/21/04 10:18am

TurnItUp

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Ace said:

Personally, I found Musicology disappointing and think that comparing it to Sign borders on heresy. What's missing for me here is Prince's incredible sense of melody (some of the tracks on the album are all but tuneless, with the run of What Do U Want Me 2 Do?, The Marrying Kind and If Eye Was the Man in Ur Life being particularly egregious). The title track, Call My Name and On the Couch are nice genre exercises, but there is certainly nothing here approaching the innovation of Sign (with the possible exception of Reflection, which is a very interesting track).

It doesn't make you any less of a Prince fan to say that you think he's capable of better.

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Maybe the market place is not interested in anything better. Sign of the Times. only sold about 1 million copies back in 87.


It is true. Musicology is no Sign O the Times, 1999, or Purple Rain, but Prince has never done two albums that were alike. Back when Parade, ATWIAD and Signs was out, critics and some fans were saying "why can't he go back to doing stuff like "1999 and Purple Rain".

I think I like what Prince said to columnist Steven Ivory in a Black Beat article once. Steve asked him the same question and Prince's answer was. "If you want something like 1999 go listen to 1999. I'm someplace else now.

He said it before the Larry King interview. "I live in the NOW". I, personally, liked Musicology, but I did not expect it to sound anything like his past stuff. The Rainbow Children and N.E.W.S all sound different, so does every album he put out every year in the 80's/90's. That's how Prince is. He pleases some and doesn't please others.

The quote about the marketplace not being interested in anything better. You're right. They only seem to be interested in a bunch of bulls**t. Music will never be what it was. disbelief
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Reply #53 posted 12/21/04 11:29pm

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Reply #54 posted 12/22/04 1:06am

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thedog said:

Musicology was trash. Prince use to kick ass, but now he just makes me sick.



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D00d, what in fuck's name are you talking about? If Musicology made you sick, why are you even a Prince fan, anymore? Sure, it wasn't his proudest moment (not even close), but it made you sick? What Prince songs make you healthy?

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Reply #55 posted 12/22/04 1:14am

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TurnItUp said:

laurarichardson said:


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Maybe the market place is not interested in anything better. Sign of the Times. only sold about 1 million copies back in 87.


It is true. Musicology is no Sign O the Times, 1999, or Purple Rain, but Prince has never done two albums that were alike. Back when Parade, ATWIAD and Signs was out, critics and some fans were saying "why can't he go back to doing stuff like "1999 and Purple Rain".

I think I like what Prince said to columnist Steven Ivory in a Black Beat article once. Steve asked him the same question and Prince's answer was. "If you want something like 1999 go listen to 1999. I'm someplace else now.

He said it before the Larry King interview. "I live in the NOW". I, personally, liked Musicology, but I did not expect it to sound anything like his past stuff. The Rainbow Children and N.E.W.S all sound different, so does every album he put out every year in the 80's/90's. That's how Prince is. He pleases some and doesn't please others.

The quote about the marketplace not being interested in anything better. You're right. They only seem to be interested in a bunch of bulls**t. Music will never be what it was. disbelief



TurnItUp nailed in on the head. What I've found funny in this thread is everyone praising TRC. When TRC came out sooooo many people on here bashed it like they are bashing Musicology. Now it's "TRC was a classic album and Musicology stinks". The man is so far ahead of his time, even his fans take 3 albuns to catch up.
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Reply #56 posted 12/22/04 1:24am

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wdrew said:

What I've found funny in this thread is everyone praising TRC. When TRC came out sooooo many people on here bashed it like they are bashing Musicology. Now it's "TRC was a classic album and Musicology stinks". The man is so far ahead of his time, even his fans take 3 albuns to catch up.


You're being too quick to the trigger, I think. I loved The Rainbow Children IMMEDIATELY! The first time I put it on, I knew it was the best thing Prince did since LoveSexy (it actually reminded me a bit of LS). It's still my third favorite P album ever created (after Purple Rain and LoveSexy). At times, it's my favorite Prince album. It is always in my top three and always will be, unless Prince pulls a miracle out of his ass (that could be either gross or amazing -- ass miracles are funny that way).

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Reply #57 posted 12/22/04 1:38am

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sloopydrew4u said:

wdrew said:

What I've found funny in this thread is everyone praising TRC. When TRC came out sooooo many people on here bashed it like they are bashing Musicology. Now it's "TRC was a classic album and Musicology stinks". The man is so far ahead of his time, even his fans take 3 albuns to catch up.


You're being too quick to the trigger, I think. I loved The Rainbow Children IMMEDIATELY! The first time I put it on, I knew it was the best thing Prince did since LoveSexy (it actually reminded me a bit of LS). It's still my third favorite P album ever created (after Purple Rain and LoveSexy). At times, it's my favorite Prince album. It is always in my top three and always will be, unless Prince pulls a miracle out of his ass (that could be either gross or amazing -- ass miracles are funny that way).

Luv & Peace,
Alex
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Oh, I didn't mean to say that everyone hated on TRC. Just that there was some overwhelming negativity for it on here, so much so that it actually drove me away from the org for a while. I enjoyed the hell out of TRC just like I have all of his albums. I've never been able to compare or make favorites of his albums (songs yes, albums no). I enjoy each album as it comes, knowing that I shouldn't expect it to sound a certain way because each one always brings something different.
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Reply #58 posted 12/22/04 2:40am

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Reply #59 posted 12/22/04 8:22am

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shygirl said:

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Musicology was the most uninspiring piece of crap I've ever heard and the album which destroyed any interest I had with the guy. RIP



Destroyed any interest you had with the guy? I think not, since you took the time to post your opinion. Apparently the guy still interests you enough to share with the rest of us. Positive or negative, if you're here, you're interested.

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