Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Yeah!! What she said again!! LOL

Ifsixwuz9 said:

psykosoul said:

You do the same! You asked for my thoughts then balked at my point... sorry, it struck me funny.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I know you didn't comment one way or another, but your answer: "It's his song, he can do pretty much anything he wants with it.," struck me funny too.

Basically a cop out. He should go back and change all his songs then. Why just pick on a classic like The Cross?

Think of what a dreadful world this would be, if all artists, pulled stupid stunts like this.

I think "Still Would Stand All Time" is truly a gospel song with a very gospel choir sound in the back ground.

Everytime I hear this I think I should be back at Newlight Baptist Church... sing it, child! Personally, I'd like to hear more like this.

Amen.

TheBatman said:

Guess what... it ain't your song, genius.

OdysseyMiles said:

...also, there's plenty of other artists, musicians and non-musicians, who revamp and remake their work all the time. it'd be kinna boring if folks stuck to just one thing and leave it at that. i don't care much for "the christ" or whatever either, but hey...it was p's prerogative to switch it up cuz he felt like it. not a damn thing you can do but not listen to it, if it turns you off that much.

AsianBomb777 said:

that is exactly what i was thinking.

Prince has been writing gospel songs forever

they may not have always contained gospel lyrics...but non-the-less they were gospel records

The Cross is not a gospel record so those of you who want to act like it is need to see Ray the movie to understand what gospel music is or go to church

How Come You Don't Call Me
Adore
On the Couch
The Question of U
Still Would Stand All Time
U Make MY Sunshine


Are all examples of gospel music wiritten and performed by Prince. Now the lyrics aren't traditional gospel clearly but anyone who knows anthing about music and not just Prince music or as I see on this sites his pop records knows this.

Its not even debatable
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Stripe said:

the only song on your list that is remotely a gospel record is The Ladder. The rest aren't remotely gospel records. Their lyrical content do not make them a gospel record. Gospel just like POP, & RB is a style and form all to it self
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OdysseyMiles

Alexandernvrmind said:

You don't consider "Last December" to be a gospel song?

TheBatman said:

can't nobody use my beeyotch-slap banner 'cept me.

Alexandernvrmind said:

it is now. seems to me that you're listenin more to the musical content of each song, as opposed to the musical and the lyrical content. the songs you listed above may have a gospel-like tinge in their sound, but they're not gospel.

and yes, "the cross" can be considered as gospel. dunno how hip you are to the gospel genre, but it has to do with telling of the coming of the lord. "the cross" is doing just that.

TheBatman said:

You mean after makin' some sense?
Maybe you'd know what I was talking about if you created some art only to have others tell you what you should and shouldn't do with it.

OdysseyMiles said:

you beat me to it, i was just about to say...the banner usage got me all confuzzled, cuz what you said was on-point.

OdysseyMiles said:

Dude... I'm in advertising. I get that all the time.

Let's get Michelangelo to change the The Sistine Chapel Ceiling while we're at it

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

the Cross is rock/pop/metal song period. The "song" is what we distinguish and how songs are categorized

Prince is so good because he cover all categories and well (except Rap)

POP
RB
Phycadelic
Gospel
Rock

all kille dall of it back in the 80s ...thats what made him so astonishing

H eplayed all of these types/forms of music and well

I guess we will have to agree to disagree but it would be like saying Kiss or Erotic City are rock records...when clearly they are not

Alexandernvrmind said:

...you totally didn't see what i said.

TheBatman said:

If he was still here, he might consider it....and he'd have every right to.

OdysseyMiles said:

Well, you obviously have no sense of vision.

An orginal creation is just that.

Now if Prince is as creative as he leads us to believe, he would've made a new... MORE POWERFUL song about it. Instead of belittling himself to change the original... ooo, "just cause it's his."

Last time I checked, Warners owned "The Cross," so it's not really his anymore anyway.

TheBatman said:

1) no matter if he were to make a brand-spankin new version of the song, the premise would still be exactly the same.

2) ownership aside--warners didn't come up with "the cross", prince did--in that respect, it's still his creation....ew, now i feel like ol' boy all the sudden, only taller and with estrogen.

TheBatman said:

Dude, you have no clue about creative vision or art. You're probably one of those cats who whines about George Lucas making adjustments to the Star Wars movies. And yes, Warners owns "The Cross" on paper, but they didn't write it, now did they? As a songwriter, nobody will ever tell me what I can or can't do with a tune, so you and me will never see eye-to-eye on this. I'll defend any songwriter/artist in the world when it comes to their art/vision. Why? Simple. It's theirs, NOT YOURS.
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TheBatman said:

I didn't balk at your point, because I didn't see one. I saw no reason to go back in forth in discussion about your ideas because they haven't proven anything or provoked me to change my mind. Seems OdyseeyMiles and ifsixwuz9 have done a great job of breaking it down for you. All I can do is hope you learn something
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I knew it!!!

TheBatman said:

So? I wasn't whining about it. Just stated opinion.

TheBatman said:

So did Prince when he sang "The Christ".

OdysseyMiles said:

And in turned, ruined the original song (at least for some of us).

TheBatman said:

Like you said, you've got your copy, so listen to that. When you say he shouldn't change his own art, then you take away your own artistic freedom to ever do the same if you so choose. My point was that we should all have that right.
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