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Reply #60 posted 10/05/04 2:58pm

trickflippy

Which version of Father's Song is this???

Wednesday? Do we have that somewhere??
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Reply #61 posted 10/05/04 3:05pm

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trickflippy said:

Which version of Father's Song is this???

Wednesday? Do we have that somewhere??


its titled "There's No Telling What I Might Do"

Fathers Song may be a real studio version nod
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Reply #62 posted 10/06/04 12:19am

trickflippy

Very Interesting.

I'd like one of those test pressings!

I've always wanted to hear Father's Song done right.
It's a shame P.R. can't embrace the past a bit and release a proper score
from Purple Rain since it won a Grammy and all.

I wonder if Electric Intercourse was supposed to be on there?
And All Day and Night?
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Reply #63 posted 10/06/04 12:32am

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'Electric Intercourse' was originally going to be in Purple Rain,
but it was replaced by 'The Beautiful Ones'.

Also, 'G-Spot' was going to be on there too,
but it was replaced by 'Darling Nikki'.

All Day, All Night was written after Purple Rain was completed,
so was never considered for inclusion.
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Reply #64 posted 10/10/04 2:18am

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You can use this list if you like to extend the thread (from older thread here (instead of me linking to it everytime biggrin )

Prince & Produced - Officially released albums

Released albums inclusions are based on Prince's involvement, so in the case of something like the Ingrid Chavez, he did 5 songs on that, so it's noted, where as TC Ellis's album, or Mazarati's included less input, so are not included.

1978 - Prince: For You
1979 - Prince: Prince
1980 - Prince: Dirty Mind
1981 - The Time: The Time [ Prince written/produced ]
1981 - Prince: Controversy
1982 - Vanity 6: Vanity 6 [ Prince written/produced ]
1982 - The Time: What Time Is It? [ Prince written/produced ]
1982 - Prince & The Revolution - 1999
1984 - Sheila E: - in The Glamorous Life [ Prince written/produced ]
1984 - Prince & The Revolution - Purple Rain
1984 - The Time: Ice-Cream Castles [ Prince written/produced ]
1984 - Apollonia 6: Apollonia 6 [ Prince written/produced ]
1985 - Prince & The Revolution - Around The World In A Day
1985 - The Family: The Family [ Prince written/produced ]
1985 - Sheila E: in Romance 1600 [ Prince written/produced ]
1986 - Prince & The Revolution - Parade
1987 - Madhouse: 8 [ Prince written/produced ]
1987 - Sheila E: Sheila E. [ Prince part-written/produced ]
1987 - Prince: Sign O' The Times
1987 - Jill Jones: Jill Jones [ Prince written/produced ]
1987 - Madhouse: 16 [ Prince written/produced ]
1988 - Prince: Lovesexy
1989 - Mavis Staples: Time Waits For No-One [ Prince part-written/produced ]
1989 - Prince: Batman: Motion Picture Soundtrack
1990 - The Time: Pandemonium [ Prince part-written/produced ]
1990 - Prince: Graffiti Bridge
1990 - Elisa Fiorillo: I Am [ Prince part-written/produced ]
1991 - Martika: Martika's Kitchen [ Prince part-written/produced ]
1991 - Ingrid Chavez: May 19, 1992 [ Prince part-written/produced ]
1991 - Prince & The New Power Generation: Diamonds & Pearls
1991 - Eric Leeds: Times Squared [ Prince part-written/produced ]
1992 - Prince & The New Power Generation: prince
1993 - Carmen Electra: Carmen Electra [ Prince written/produced ]
1993 - The New Power Generation: Gold Nigga [ Prince written/produced ]
1993 - Mavis Staples: The Voice [ Prince part-written/produced ]
1993 - Prince: The Hits/B-Sides [3CD]
1993 - Tevin Campbell: I'm Ready [ Prince part-written/produced ]
1994 - Prince: The Undertaker [ Promo CD only, mass released officially on video only]
1994 - prince: The Beautiful Experience [ Independent E.P. Release ]
1994 - Various Artists: 1800-NEW-FUNK [ Prince written/produced ]
1994 - Prince: Come
1994 - Prince: The Black Album [ Contractual Obligatory Release, original release 8/12/87 ]
1995 - Mayte: Children Of The Sun [ Prince written/produced ]
1995 - The New Power Generation: Exodus [ Prince written/produced ]
1995 - prince : The Gold Experience
1996 - Prince: Girl 6 Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
1996 - prince : Chaos & Disorder [ Contractual Obligatory Release ]
1996 - The NPG Orchestra : Kamasutra
1996 - prince : Emancipation [ 3 CD album ]
1997 - The New Power Generation: New Power Soul [ Prince written/produced ]
1998 - prince : Crystal Ball [ 3 CD set of previously unreleased archive material ]
1998 - prince : The Truth
1998 - The New Power Generation: in The War [ Independent Single/Internet Release ]
1998 - Chaka Khan: Come 2 My House [ Prince part-written/produced ]
1998 - Graham Central Station: GCS2000 [ Prince written/produced ]
1999 - prince : 1999: The New Master [ Independent E.P. Release ]
1999 - Prince: The Vault... Old Friends 4 Sale [ Contractual Obligatory Release ]
1999 - prince : Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic
2000 - prince : Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic [ Remix Album ] (NPG Music Club Exclusive, non-retail)
2001 - Prince: The Rainbow Children
2001 - Prince: The Very Best Of Prince [ Contractual Obligatory Release ]
2002 - Prince: One Night Alone (NPG Music Club Exclusive, non-retail)
2002 - Prince: One Night Alone Live [ 3 CD Live Album ]
2003 - Prince: Xpectation (NPG Music Club Download release)
2003 - Prince: C-Note (EP - NPG Music Club Download release)
2003 - Prince: N.E.W.S.
2004 - Prince: Musicology
2004 - Prince: The Slaughterhouse [ *compilation ]
2004 - Prince: The Chocolate Invasion [ *compilation ]

* - [ NPG Music Club Download-only release, compiled of previously released material from the 2001 NPGMC Year One downloads ]


Prince - Unreleased/Incomplete albums & projects
1979 - The Rebels Album (Complete album, unreleased)
1981 - The Hookers Album (Incomplete album, unreleased)
1983 - Vanity 6 2nd Album (Incomplete album, unreleased)
1986 - The Flesh (Complete album, unreleased)
1986 - Prince & The Revolution: Dream Factory (Complete double LP album, unreleased)
1986 - Camille: Camille (Complete album, unreleased)
1987 - Crystal Ball (Complete 3LP album, unreleased)
1987 - Graffiti Bridge (Complete 1st configuration album, unreleased)
1988 - Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic (Complete album, unreleased)
1988 - Sheila E. 4th Album (Incomplete album, unreleased)
1988 - Madhouse: 24 (Complete album, unreleased)
1989 - MC Flash: MC Flash (Incomplete album, unreleased)
1989 - The Time: Corporate World (Complete album, unreleased)
1989 - Jill Jones 2nd Album (Incomplete album, unreleased)
1990 - Madhouse: 26 (Complete album, evolved into Eric Leeds' Times Squared, released 1991)
???? - Madhouse: Brass Monkey (Incomplete album, unreleased)
1993 - Madhouse: 24 [II] (Complete album, unreleased)
1993 - Rosie Gaines: Concrete Jungle (Complete album, unreleased)
1995 - Tora Tora: The Tora Tora Experience (Incomplete album, unreleased)
1996 - prince: The Dawn (Incomplete album, unreleased)
1998 - Mayte: Scorpio (Unreleased Re-release of Mayte's solo album with new tracks)
1999 - Prince & The Revolution: Roadhouse Garden (Out-takes album, unreleased)
2000 - Prince: When 2 R In Love (Complete compilation album, unreleased)
2000 - Prince: High (Complete album, unreleased, although all tracks have been officially released on CD or mp3)
2001 - prince: Crystal Ball 2 (incomplete album, unreleased)
2001 - Prince: A Celebration (complete album, unreleased)
2001 - prince: Madrid 2 Chicago (complete album, unreleased)
2001 - The NPG: Peace (incomplete album, unreleased)
2002 - Prince: Last December (complete album, unreleased)
2002 - prince: The Best Of (Complete compilation album, unreleased)

Hopefully we can work off the list of unreleased projects to fill in any gaps in tracklists, or songs intended for these projects.
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Reply #65 posted 10/10/04 11:15am

madhouseman

Don't forget to add

1996 - : New World (assembled album, unreleased)- This is the clump of outtakes that are listed as Emancipation outtakes, but are in reality an album called New World. At the same time, Prince did an additional album but I don't recall it's name. They were both assembled at the same time for release at the same time.
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Reply #66 posted 10/11/04 4:39am

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The Time: Corporate World Sep. 1989
Set for release inNov. 14th 1989 in this order:

Murph Drag
Nine Lives
Donald Trump (Black Version)
Love Machine
Data Bank
Shake!
Corporate World
The Latest Fashion
Rwelease It
My Summertime Thang



Is it really likely that Latest Fashion and Summertime Thang would ever have been considered to be included on the same album? It's basically the same song with different lyrics! Unless one of them is an alternate version, which is possible...
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Reply #67 posted 10/11/04 6:33am

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wasitgood4u said:


Is it really likely that Latest Fashion and Summertime Thang would ever have been considered to be included on the same album? It's basically the same song with different lyrics! Unless one of them is an alternate version, which is possible...


You're right, there is an alternative version - of The Latest Fashion.

The released version on GB is based on the same backing music as My Summertime Thang (which I think also dates back to '83 if memory serves).
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Reply #68 posted 10/11/04 2:45pm

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NouveauDance said:

wasitgood4u said:


Is it really likely that Latest Fashion and Summertime Thang would ever have been considered to be included on the same album? It's basically the same song with different lyrics! Unless one of them is an alternate version, which is possible...


You're right, there is an alternative version - of The Latest Fashion.

The released version on GB is based on the same backing music as My Summertime Thang (which I think also dates back to '83 if memory serves).



The Latest Fashion from Corporate World is dancing jig it is more laidback and kinda has a funky bar touch. It features a girl beggin Morris to answer the phone and sayin she sorry..
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Reply #69 posted 10/11/04 3:12pm

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NouveauDance said:

thumbs up!

I definately vote for sticky on this, but expand it to include a list of all Prince's unreleased projects, with tracklists where possible. (Like Camille/DF/CB rolleyes wink )

List of unreleased projects here: http://www.prince.org/msg...&tid=53806

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Reply #70 posted 10/11/04 3:25pm

NouveauDance

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purplebutterfly2 said:

NouveauDance said:

thumbs up!

I definately vote for sticky on this, but expand it to include a list of all Prince's unreleased projects, with tracklists where possible. (Like Camille/DF/CB rolleyes wink )

List of unreleased projects here: http://www.prince.org/msg...&tid=53806

can you tell me if you have organ grinder, or someone who has?
I had it once and can't find it anymore Thanks


You mean the song 'Violet The Organ Grinder' ?

It's on the Gett Off maxi single.
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Reply #71 posted 10/11/04 9:23pm

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What about the album "Whispers & Echos" and shouldn't "U gotta shake something" be on The Flesh album?
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Reply #72 posted 10/12/04 2:11am

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FanofDaFascist said:

What about the album "Whispers & Echos" and shouldn't "U gotta shake something" be on The Flesh album?


U Gotta Shake Something was not placed on any known configuration of the Flesh LP.

Whispers & Echo's was a rumour/joke Prince stated after Diamonds & Pearls, hence the title, it was never a title of a project.
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Reply #73 posted 10/12/04 3:35pm

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What about the Erotic City dance project? The Track list must pre date Ulysesses.

Also, what shall we refer to the band from 93-96? This is the band many say was the best NPG linup, yet the band actually state they were formed after the NPG was broken up (see NPG magazine). So by their own definition, they were not the NPG. So what were they?

Just thought I'd throw a couple of boomerangs in there for us! lol



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Reply #74 posted 10/14/04 7:51am

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SquirrelMeat said:

What about the Erotic City dance project? The Track list must pre date Ulysesses.

Also, what shall we refer to the band from 93-96? This is the band many say was the best NPG linup, yet the band actually state they were formed after the NPG was broken up (see NPG magazine). So by their own definition, they were not the NPG. So what were they?

Just thought I'd throw a couple of boomerangs in there for us! lol


Far as I know, Prince DID take them off his "pay roll", but that didnt mean they werent still called the NPG. He still calls them the NPG to this day even though there are entirely different members...there is no name to the New Power Generation band...it is just whomever is on Prince's pay roll who's part of the band.


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Reply #75 posted 10/14/04 5:32pm

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Thank you very much for this tracklist...been waiting for ever and have searched all over for one...good thing this be sticky
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Reply #76 posted 10/17/04 8:55pm

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prinssi said:

Thanks! Great info... some things i hadn't heard of before... like that Emancipation configuration??? Would've been quite poor album confused


that's not a tracklisting of any configuration of Emancipation. it is merely a listing of known outatkes or alt versions of songs from Emancipation. all can be found on the Sabatoge bootleg the Secret Chapter.
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Reply #77 posted 10/18/04 11:50am

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Lists like this just make my head hurt.

There is so much material....amazing.

Good work ya'll
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Reply #78 posted 10/18/04 10:59pm

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prinssi said:

Thanks! Great info... some things i hadn't heard of before... like that Emancipation configuration??? Would've been quite poor album confused


that's not a tracklisting of any configuration of Emancipation. it is merely a listing of known outatkes or alt versions of songs from Emancipation. all can be found on the Sabatoge bootleg the Secret Chapter.


That was actually a configuration of an album that was to be titled "New World". Some of the songs made it on to Emancipation, but it was never actually considered to be part of Emancipation from what I understand.
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Reply #79 posted 10/20/04 10:10pm

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Hey...wasn't Purple Rain was originally a double LP? Isn't it available in extremely limited quantities as a double LP import acetate pressing? Doesn't this mean there be more tracks listed for Purple Rain?
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Reply #80 posted 10/22/04 4:46am

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S3V3N said:

Hey...wasn't Purple Rain was originally a double LP? Isn't it available in extremely limited quantities as a double LP import acetate pressing? Doesn't this mean there be more tracks listed for Purple Rain?


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Reply #81 posted 10/25/04 5:07pm

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Apologies if this shows up my ignorance but were are the following from; any clues is much appreciated:

* Hypno Paradise (funky, ultra-produced modern track; I expect 2002+)
* Lips 2 Find U (instrumental ballad with effects-laden keys)
* R U Horny - note: this may not be a Prince song; it has all the hallmarks but the vocals appear somewhat different.
* 51 Hours
* A Better Place 2 Die
* Blue
* Silicon(e)
* Broken
* Vavoom

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Reply #82 posted 10/26/04 9:47am

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* Hypno Paradise - 1998, it was played live on the NPS Tour in Europe a few times I think, and was made for download in the first year of the NPGMC, then placed on the download 'album' The Slaughter House (available over at NPGMC)

* Lips 2 Find U - Fake - This is the title of a Teena Marie track (from Emerald City) - which has nothing to do with Prince.

* R U Horny - Fake

* 51 Hours - Officially released as a rare promo 12" in 1992, recorded with Diamond & Pearl (the dancers)

* A Better Place 2 Die - Incorrect title for 'Moonbeam Levels' from 1982, unreleased from 1999 Sessions.

* Blue - Probably 'Get Blue' from 1991, released officially by Louie Louie, Prince's version unreleased.

* Silicon - released 2000 NPGMC Year One download, then placed on the download 'album' The Slaughterhouse

* Broken - 1980, Unreleased.

* Vavoom - released 2000, NPGMC Year One download, then placed on the download 'album' The Chocolate Invasion (available over at NPGMC)
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Reply #83 posted 10/29/04 12:28pm

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Reply #84 posted 10/30/04 6:04pm

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NouveauDance said:

You can use this list if you like to extend the thread (from older thread here (instead of me linking to it everytime biggrin )

2000 - Prince: When 2 R In Love (Complete compilation album, unreleased)
2001 - prince: Madrid 2 Chicago (complete album, unreleased)
2001 - The NPG: Peace (incomplete album, unreleased)
2002 - Prince: Last December (complete album, unreleased)
2002 - prince: The Best Of (Complete compilation album, unreleased)

Hopefully we can work off the list of unreleased projects to fill in any gaps in tracklists, or songs intended for these projects.


Do we know the track lists from these alblums?
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Reply #85 posted 10/31/04 9:33am

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Jhasten said:

NouveauDance said:

You can use this list if you like to extend the thread (from older thread here (instead of me linking to it everytime biggrin )

2000 - Prince: When 2 R In Love (Complete compilation album, unreleased)
2001 - prince: Madrid 2 Chicago (complete album, unreleased)
2001 - The NPG: Peace (incomplete album, unreleased)
2002 - Prince: Last December (complete album, unreleased)
2002 - prince: The Best Of (Complete compilation album, unreleased)

Hopefully we can work off the list of unreleased projects to fill in any gaps in tracklists, or songs intended for these projects.


Do we know the track lists from these alblums?


Other than the odd track or so, no we don't.
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Reply #86 posted 11/01/04 1:00pm

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eek Somebody needs to tell me where i can find the rare 1980-1990 material--- I'll work on the 1990-present stuff next lifetime...
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Reply #87 posted 11/01/04 1:01pm

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* R U Horny - Fake


And not even a good fake. It's tired and shitty and not just because it doesn't even sound like Prince.
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Reply #88 posted 11/01/04 2:04pm

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Hey NouveauDance, here's a few more for your delectation and consideration:

* Its a Wonderful Day - Beat funk pop duet (predominantly female voxs)
* Girl o' My Dreams - harmonica-laden cheeky romp
* In A Large Room With No Light - Sounds Dream Factory-era; mad drums!
* Storm - Samba beat with bluesy-Isley Bros guitar (may be fake)
* Peace - Proper jive-funk - sounds pretty up-to-date
* Sexual Suicide - was this an 80s b-side - apologies its been a long day
* One Song - spiritual ballad; again me suspects this an NPGMC release
* Jammin 4 U - again could be fake - its a funky bass-led slap funk ditty, does sound like Prince - but of course its meant to be!
* Get Blue - pretty naff slow number sounds early 90s
* G Spot - Nasty grinder; with duel vocals and female harmonies & peverse synths!
* Asswoop - Throwaway bluesy jam with cheap jazz bits thrown in for good measure (7 minutes plus) - sound of Prince workin in his sleep
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A non-Prince song which is rather intriguing is called Number One which samples Prince (think New Power Generation) and contains a female hip-hop power-style rap - sample lyric (chorus) 'I'll be number one or I'll be nothing at all' - quite a poor song to be frank; but interesting nonetheless.
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Ooooh and also I've got a mad extended rendition of Computer Blue - which is splendierous - just thought I'd share that - its got extra verse and heavy drums and rough vocals - tremendous stuff!
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That should keep you going for oooh two and half minutes!

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Reply #89 posted 11/02/04 2:15am

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Funkster said:

Hey NouveauDance, here's a few more for your delectation and consideration:

* Its a Wonderful Day - Beat funk pop duet (predominantly female voxs)

Out-take from The Dream Factory, placed on an early version, '86

* Girl o' My Dreams - harmonica-laden cheeky romp

From the Dream Factory stage musical project from '86 - recorded live with The Revolution along with Can't Stop This Feeling I Got, We Can Funk (second version) - and Data Bank also I think

* In A Large Room With No Light - Sounds Dream Factory-era; mad drums!

Yep, 1986

* Storm - Samba beat with bluesy-Isley Bros guitar (may be fake)

Make It Through The Storm from 1977, officially released by Sue Ann Cartwell

* Peace - Proper jive-funk - sounds pretty up-to-date

Official release through NPGMC Year One Downloads, credited to NPG

* Sexual Suicide - was this an 80s b-side - apologies its been a long day

1985 Parade out-take, officially released on Crystal Ball

* One Song - spiritual ballad; again me suspects this an NPGMC release

1999 (98?) Track which first appeared on the L4OA website as a streaming audio/video - I don't think there is any other version that didn't come from this original real audio/video file

* Jammin 4 U - again could be fake - its a funky bass-led slap funk ditty, does sound like Prince - but of course its meant to be!

This might have another name, or may be a fake - The name is familiar as a 1983/4 track, but I can't remember what other title it might have gone by, or if this is a fake


* Get Blue - pretty naff slow number sounds early 90s

Answered that one above


* G Spot - Nasty grinder; with duel vocals and female harmonies & peverse synths!

1983 out-take, placed on early version of PR, replaced by Darlin' Nikki, later officially released by Jill Jones in 1987


* Asswoop - Throwaway bluesy jam with cheap jazz bits thrown in for good measure (7 minutes plus) - sound of Prince workin in his sleep

From the 2nd Madhouse '24' album, from 1993. (See the first post of this thread for the complete tracklist to 24 [i] from 1988 and 24 [ii] from 1993 - Same name, different albums.


A non-Prince song which is rather intriguing is called Number One which samples Prince (think New Power Generation) and contains a female hip-hop power-style rap - sample lyric (chorus) 'I'll be number one or I'll be nothing at all' - quite a poor song to be frank; but interesting nonetheless.

Number One by Robin Power (Morris' scary butch girlfriend in Graffiti Bridge, from 1990



Ooooh and also I've got a mad extended rendition of Computer Blue - which is splendierous - just thought I'd share that - its got extra verse and heavy drums and rough vocals - tremendous stuff!

There are several versions and edits of Computer Blue, sound like you have the longest version - with the hallway speech



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