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Thread started 08/16/04 2:13am

MrSquiggle

"United States of Division" - Worst song since "Wedding Feast"?

"Everybody stop fighting/Everybody make love"

confused

I can't think of anything worse he's done in recent memory.
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Reply #1 posted 08/16/04 2:33am

Anxiety

i like it redface

maybe if i were expecting some kind of leonard cohen-esque lyrical masterpiece i'd be disappointed, but fortunately i was only expecting a silly, funky, melodic pop song by prince.
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Reply #2 posted 08/16/04 3:09am

dawntreader

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i love it.

what is actually wrong with the message: 'everybody stop fighting / everybody make love'?

nuttin' !

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yes SIR!
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Reply #3 posted 08/16/04 3:56am

TheMadMonkey

there's nothing wrong with the message (as sappy as it is)...it's just that the song itself sucks condor eggs...
as far as memory serving...what about C.R.A.P.?...or The Rainbow Fiasco?...I have to swallow back the bile everytime I think of those wastes of metal 'n' plastic...feeling ill
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Reply #4 posted 08/16/04 6:54am

go2theMax

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I kinda like it..nuthin' wrong with the message...
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Reply #5 posted 08/16/04 7:38am

Ymaginatif

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Ever listened top the lyrics of the Controversy album?

The simplicity of "Everybody stop fighting/Everybody make love" is soooo typical of Prince.
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Reply #6 posted 08/16/04 7:46am

Vital

MrSquiggle said:

"Everybody stop fighting/Everybody make love"

confused

I can't think of anything worse he's done in recent memory.


disbelief
It's a great 'feel good' idea but what is the plan for the unwanted illegitimate children and the responsibility someone will have to shoulder for all of this lovemaking? confuse brick
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Reply #7 posted 08/16/04 1:10pm

superspaceboy

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MrSquiggle said:

"Everybody stop fighting/Everybody make love"

confused

I can't think of anything worse he's done in recent memory.


I like both of those songs.

The more I hear disses about WF...the more I like it. Gosh for a really short song this one gets the most bashing. It's a segue folks! It's the trasitional part of the album. Part of the concept.

USOD, nice tune for a B-Side. Dates itself before it's even out of the cereal box, though. Still a decent tune. I'll be playing it on Sept 11 that's for sure.

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Reply #8 posted 08/16/04 1:12pm

superspaceboy

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TheMadMonkey said:


as far as memory serving...what about C.R.A.P.?...


I Like Crap!

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Reply #9 posted 08/16/04 5:58pm

Supernova

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superspaceboy said:

MrSquiggle said:

"Everybody stop fighting/Everybody make love"

confused

I can't think of anything worse he's done in recent memory.


I like both of those songs.

The more I hear disses about WF...the more I like it. Gosh for a really short song this one gets the most bashing. It's a segue folks! It's the trasitional part of the album. Part of the concept.

Thank ya. And its intentions are comedic in nature.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #10 posted 08/16/04 6:06pm

bkw

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Supernova said:

superspaceboy said:



I like both of those songs.

The more I hear disses about WF...the more I like it. Gosh for a really short song this one gets the most bashing. It's a segue folks! It's the trasitional part of the album. Part of the concept.

Thank ya. And its intentions are comedic in nature.

I'll never understand why people dont get this.
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #11 posted 08/16/04 6:47pm

Ifsixwuz9

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...if there was any hint that Wendy and Lisa were on either one of these songs people would be falling over themselves praising them.
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I'll play it first and tell you what it is later.
-Miles Davis-
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Reply #12 posted 08/16/04 7:46pm

superspaceboy

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Vital said:

MrSquiggle said:

"Everybody stop fighting/Everybody make love"

confused

I can't think of anything worse he's done in recent memory.


disbelief
It's a great 'feel good' idea but what is the plan for the unwanted illegitimate children and the responsibility someone will have to shoulder for all of this lovemaking? confuse brick


I mean, we don't have 2 make children 2 make love
And then, we don't have 2 make love 2 have an orgasm

-If I was You're Girlfriend - Prince

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Reply #13 posted 08/16/04 10:52pm

MrSquiggle

bkw said:

Supernova said:


Thank ya. And its intentions are comedic in nature.

I'll never understand why people dont get this.


No, I get it. It's just that USofD is so terrible that, even in it's seriousness, still worse than a 17th Century-style segue intended in jest.
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Reply #14 posted 08/16/04 10:58pm

vainandy

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

...if there was any hint that Wendy and Lisa were on either one of these songs people would be falling over themselves praising them.


I can't comment on "United States of Division" because I've never heard it but as far as "Wedding Feast" goes, I don't totally dislike it. I just consider it as one of those "weird, far out" songs like some of the tracks on "Parade". I do agree that if a lot of people thought Wendy and Lisa were behind this song, they would be falling all over themselves. It sounds like some of their "weird, far out" influence.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #15 posted 08/16/04 11:29pm

Sdldawn

it makes NPS look like a masterpiece...


lol
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Reply #16 posted 08/17/04 1:18am

Vital

superspaceboy said:

Vital said:



disbelief
It's a great 'feel good' idea but what is the plan for the unwanted illegitimate children and the responsibility someone will have to shoulder for all of this lovemaking? confuse brick


I mean, we don't have 2 make children 2 make love
And then, we don't have 2 make love 2 have an orgasm

-If I was You're Girlfriend - Prince

biggrin


But that was before Prince was a JW. Now he must follow the biblical teachings which reguire that only when trying to conceive children should people have sex. Unless there's a way for him to leave the Bilble out of this it doesn't really seem to fit in with the JW teachings. Does this lovemaking he's singning about include only married heterosexuals or is he including gay lovers, and any age boyfriends/girlfriends here as well? confuse
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Reply #17 posted 08/17/04 1:18am

sloopydrew4u

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MrSquiggle said:

"Everybody stop fighting/Everybody make love"

confused

I can't think of anything worse he's done in recent memory.


I urinate in your general direction. United States of Division is better than most songs on Musicology. The chanting chorus is corny, I'll give you that, but the song is rockin'!

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince
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Reply #18 posted 08/17/04 1:19am

sloopydrew4u

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Anxiety said:

i like it redface

maybe if i were expecting some kind of leonard cohen-esque lyrical masterpiece i'd be disappointed, but fortunately i was only expecting a silly, funky, melodic pop song by prince.


Leonard Cohen! My man! If you weren't a moderator, I'd kiss up to you. wink

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince
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Reply #19 posted 08/17/04 9:17am

superspaceboy

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Vital said:

superspaceboy said:



I mean, we don't have 2 make children 2 make love
And then, we don't have 2 make love 2 have an orgasm

-If I was You're Girlfriend - Prince

biggrin


But that was before Prince was a JW. Now he must follow the biblical teachings which reguire that only when trying to conceive children should people have sex. Unless there's a way for him to leave the Bilble out of this it doesn't really seem to fit in with the JW teachings. Does this lovemaking he's singning about include only married heterosexuals or is he including gay lovers, and any age boyfriends/girlfriends here as well? confuse


Like Prince is not having sex with his wife. I don't see any kids either...maybe they are on the rhythm method.. rolleyes

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Reply #20 posted 08/17/04 9:44am

MSNOWDEN

can someone post the lyrics? do you guys think it's an awful song cuz of the beat or cuz of the lyrics. many people think that just because a song doesn't have a good beat doesn't make it a good song. don't forget ya'll, it's the lyrics of a song that make it stand out from all the others. don't get me wrong, i love a song w/a good beat but don't sleep on the lyrics.
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Reply #21 posted 08/17/04 10:00am

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The only thing that i dont like about Untied States Of Division is the chorus.....there were more creative ideas than "do do do doo doo doo...everybody stop fighting". Its nice for a basic artist, but THIS SI PRINCE..this is the man who made Partyup, Sexuality, Sign O The Times.... even Dear Mr. Man....political paisley classics we look up to....

This is just a B SIDE that much people will not hear unless die-hard Prince fams so i doesnt matter, as long as it wasnt on wax....like "Number One" by Robin Power ...uuuugghhh...
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #22 posted 08/17/04 10:01am

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MSNOWDEN said:

can someone post the lyrics? do you guys think it's an awful song cuz of the beat or cuz of the lyrics. many people think that just because a song doesn't have a good beat doesn't make it a good song. don't forget ya'll, it's the lyrics of a song that make it stand out from all the others. don't get me wrong, i love a song w/a good beat but don't sleep on the lyrics.



I am tryin 2 find the lyrics....

Trust me..the lyrics are great...but in the end all you will remember is the chorus sad
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Reply #23 posted 08/17/04 1:28pm

Supernova

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paisleypark4 said:

The only thing that i dont like about Untied States Of Division is the chorus.....there were more creative ideas than "do do do doo doo doo...everybody stop fighting". Its nice for a basic artist, but THIS SI PRINCE..this is the man who made Partyup, Sexuality, Sign O The Times.... even Dear Mr. Man....political paisley classics we look up to....

This is just a B SIDE that much people will not hear unless die-hard Prince fams so i doesnt matter, as long as it wasnt on wax....like "Number One" by Robin Power ...uuuugghhh...

De do do do de da da da
Is all I want to say to you



Sincerely,


The Police
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #24 posted 08/17/04 2:10pm

Supernova

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

...if there was any hint that Wendy and Lisa were on either one of these songs people would be falling over themselves praising them.

You got it.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #25 posted 08/17/04 2:45pm

neontelephone

where can I hear the united states of division?????
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Reply #26 posted 08/17/04 3:22pm

superspaceboy

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neontelephone said:

where can I hear the united states of division?????


www.npgmusicclub.com it's one of the downloadable songs...also the splash screen s a teaser for it.

lyrics as requested...

The United States of Division
2004, still at war and everybody hates Americans

Flyin' in an aero-plane with pen in hand
Over miles and miles of deep blue
Wonderin' if it was all part of a master plan
Forget the 1 and become 2

How could your brother hear the same music? (music, music, music)
Yet somehow dance 2 a different tune
I guess that once you go divide this precious land
This precious land will divide you

Sing!

Doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Everybody stop fighting!
Doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Everybody make love!

Drivin' a brand new Cadillac through my neighborhood
Everything still look the same, uh
Everything except the fact I wish I could
Take away all the hurt and pain

We let Supafly straighten up our curly hair
He took the Afro out the game
It's kinda cool but the guns and drugs 2 much 2 bear
10 years later Scarface came

Sing the hook

Doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Everybody stop fighting!
Doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Everybody make Love!

Bridge

A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1
People can slam their door, disagree and fight it
But how you gonna love the Father but not love the Son,
United States of Division

Walkin' down the street
No flag in hand
No stars and stripes
No claim 2 land
No crescent moon
Just a holy man, holy man

How far from heaven must we go?
Before the winds of change will blow and show
This world how it's supposed 2 be, land of PEACE and HARMONY.

Everybody stop fighting!
Everybody make love!
Everybody stop fighting!
United States of Division

People can slam their door, disagree and fight it
But how you gonna say you love the Father & not love the Son?

United States of Division
BLACK (Division)
WHITE (Division)
STRAIGHT (Division)
GAY (Division)
CHRISTIAN (Division)
MUSLIM

Why must I say "God Bless America"?
And not the rest of the world
Oh say can you see?
I love my country but I love God more
Every man, women, boy and girl

Oooh, can you say it with me?

Doo doo doo doo doo doo, come on
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, everybody
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, oh
Everybody stop fighting! Put your gun down
Doo doo doo doo doo doo, hey
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, everybody gather round
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Everybody make Love!

Doo doo doo doo doo doo, oow
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, talk 2 me
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, what is this rush 2 declare war?
Everybody stop fighting! What we fightin' for?
Doo doo doo doo doo doo, hey
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, oh
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, come here baby
Everybody make Love!

Talkin' 2 United States, United States, United States of Division!

Everybody make music

Everybody make love

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Reply #27 posted 08/18/04 2:00pm

neontelephone

superspaceboy said:

neontelephone said:

where can I hear the united states of division?????


www.npgmusicclub.com it's one of the downloadable songs...also the splash screen s a teaser for it.

lyrics as requested...

The United States of Division
2004, still at war and everybody hates Americans

Flyin' in an aero-plane with pen in hand
Over miles and miles of deep blue
Wonderin' if it was all part of a master plan
Forget the 1 and become 2

How could your brother hear the same music? (music, music, music)
Yet somehow dance 2 a different tune
I guess that once you go divide this precious land
This precious land will divide you

Sing!

Doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Everybody stop fighting!
Doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Everybody make love!

Drivin' a brand new Cadillac through my neighborhood
Everything still look the same, uh
Everything except the fact I wish I could
Take away all the hurt and pain

We let Supafly straighten up our curly hair
He took the Afro out the game
It's kinda cool but the guns and drugs 2 much 2 bear
10 years later Scarface came

Sing the hook

Doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Everybody stop fighting!
Doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Everybody make Love!

Bridge

A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1
People can slam their door, disagree and fight it
But how you gonna love the Father but not love the Son,
United States of Division

Walkin' down the street
No flag in hand
No stars and stripes
No claim 2 land
No crescent moon
Just a holy man, holy man

How far from heaven must we go?
Before the winds of change will blow and show
This world how it's supposed 2 be, land of PEACE and HARMONY.

Everybody stop fighting!
Everybody make love!
Everybody stop fighting!
United States of Division

People can slam their door, disagree and fight it
But how you gonna say you love the Father & not love the Son?

United States of Division
BLACK (Division)
WHITE (Division)
STRAIGHT (Division)
GAY (Division)
CHRISTIAN (Division)
MUSLIM

Why must I say "God Bless America"?
And not the rest of the world
Oh say can you see?
I love my country but I love God more
Every man, women, boy and girl

Oooh, can you say it with me?

Doo doo doo doo doo doo, come on
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, everybody
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, oh
Everybody stop fighting! Put your gun down
Doo doo doo doo doo doo, hey
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, everybody gather round
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Everybody make Love!

Doo doo doo doo doo doo, oow
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, talk 2 me
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, what is this rush 2 declare war?
Everybody stop fighting! What we fightin' for?
Doo doo doo doo doo doo, hey
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, oh
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, come here baby
Everybody make Love!

Talkin' 2 United States, United States, United States of Division!

Everybody make music

Everybody make love
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Reply #28 posted 08/18/04 7:19pm

heybaby

the united states of division, on the npg website, is that how it really sounds? with some nice prince style violin type sound and some cheesy funk tv show type sound? i hope thats not it. i cant afford the $25 fee or the download fee or whatever fee. but if it sounds like that prince or no prince i can't buy music i'm not feelin. i hope so much it does'nt sound like that. too bad i can't pay the fee and pass the gates of the all wonderful oz:sad2:
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Reply #29 posted 08/18/04 7:40pm

meow85

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I can't say I'm impressed with the chorus, but overall I quite like the song.
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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