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Reply #60 posted 08/09/04 7:37am

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musicology74 said:

as 4 the live multi-album, i remember hearing about that. wasn't it sslated 2 be called Bright Lights, Big City, or something 2 that effect? holler back if u remember that title.


I remember the title well. It was the name of a movie starring Michael J. Fox that had a corresponding soundtrack released in 1988, featuring Good Love by Prince. lol
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Reply #61 posted 08/09/04 7:43am

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Marco81 said:

talkin' about Days Of Wild...did Prince ever considered 2 release the gold exp. with a live version of it?


Dunno if he considered it, but to my knowledge Days Of Wild is the studio version on all the known configurations of Gold Exp. biggrin
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Reply #62 posted 08/09/04 7:51am

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starbuck said:

Is there a promo of Gold circulating with Days of Wild on it?? I used to hear rumours about it back then... Been looking 4 this version ever since!!

Keep up the good work!


Thanks, Starbuck. (You wouldn't happen to be a fan of the old Battlerstar Galactica TV series, now would you? wink )

I haven't seen any boots containing the complete March configuration of The Gold Experience, but the aforementioned Now boot has Days Of Wild (3:47) from that configuration. A longer version (6:08) is also out on boot, but don't ask me which. (I got it through... circulation! innocent )
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Reply #63 posted 08/09/04 10:52am

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starbuck said:

Is there a promo of Gold circulating with Days of Wild on it?? I used to hear rumours about it back then... Been looking 4 this version ever since!!

Keep up the good work!


Prince kept a pretty tight reign on the Gold Experience promos, there were only a very small
amount made (independantly of WB). Though obviously either one escaped or was copied
otherwise the 3:47 version that's knocking around on a couple of boots wouldn't exist (As
that's the version that appeared on the album).

These promos were very nice as well, as the booklet and inserts were printed on foil paper
and the cd tray was made from gold colored plastic (with sparkly bits in too). All very glittery
and gold!
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Reply #64 posted 08/09/04 11:25am

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scififilmnerd said:

BorisFishpaw said:

I'd also say a more accurate track timing for the first 'Come' cassette sequence from April '93 would be as follows...

1. Come (4:44)
2. Endorphin Machine (3:51)
3. Space (5:32)
4. Pheromone (4:22)
5. Loose (3:22)
6. Papa (2:47)
7. Dark (6:26)
8. Dolphin (6:27)
9. Poem (3:36)


hmmm Could be, except Prince supposedly didn't extend Papa until May. Originally, it ended on a "Boom!". nod

Also, I'm not sure about the Glam Slam Ulysses-version of Come being udated into existence until May, either. So I've noted the times for both the 2nd January and the May-versions in the list above, and then people can make their own pick. biggrin
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Ah, you're most probably right about Papa (I'd forgotten it was originally shorter).

I'm not sure where you got the original version of Come being 5:27 though, as that's the
timing for the 'alleged' extended version of the Beautiful Experience remix (I say alleged,
because I've heard it, and I'm quite convinced it's a bootlegger/fan-made 'extended version'
made using a top quality copy of the broadcast version, which clocks in at 3:17)
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Reply #65 posted 08/09/04 1:20pm

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BorisFishpaw said:

I'm not sure where you got the original version of Come being 5:27 though, as that's the timing for the 'alleged' extended version of the Beautiful Experience remix (I say alleged, because I've heard it, and I'm quite convinced it's a bootlegger/fan-made 'extended version' made using a top quality copy of the broadcast version, which clocks in at 3:17)


Why, I got the (5:27) from Turn It Up vol.2, of course. redface

Well, usually the Uptown people ARE a reliable source of information and I am very happy about the products they've been releasing, but... They aren't infallible, I guess. shrug And them not presenting the info chronologically, but alphabetically, isn't helping! stab

I'll make a note of the (5:27) being fanmade and delete it from my notes and correct it on the list at the top of this thread immediately . biggrin

Once again, thanks, Boris. You've been extremely good at helping clear up a lot of information. kiss2
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Reply #66 posted 08/09/04 1:37pm

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BorisFishpaw said:

Prince kept a pretty tight reign on the Gold Experience promos, there were only a very small amount made (independantly of WB). Though obviously either one escaped or was copied otherwise the 3:47 version that's knocking around on a couple of boots wouldn't exist (As that's the version that appeared on the album).


Not necessarily. It was on the radio tape. (The difference in the time for Days Of Wild on the radio tape and on Gold Exp. is simply caused by the NPG Operator-segue being included in the time listed for the radio tape). biggrin

BorisFishpaw said:

These promos were very nice as well, as the booklet and inserts were printed on foil paper and the cd tray was made from gold colored plastic (with sparkly bits in too). All very glittery and gold!


I saw a picture of it once. It looked very cool. nod
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Reply #67 posted 08/09/04 1:38pm

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Reply #68 posted 08/09/04 1:39pm

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Reply #69 posted 08/10/04 1:22am

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Thanks, Starbuck. (You wouldn't happen to be a fan of the old Battlerstar Galactica TV series, now would you? wink )

I haven't seen any boots containing the complete March configuration of The Gold Experience, but the aforementioned Now boot has Days Of Wild (3:47) from that configuration. A longer version (6:08) is also out on boot, but don't ask me which. (I got it through... circulation! innocent )[/quote]



y yes I'm a huge fan of the Battlestar Galactica series... smile what a shame it was when I found out that 4 the new series they used a woman 2 portray Starbuck!!
Anyways. I have the Now boot also smile used 2 be a very avid collector around 1994, used 2 buy anything that had the name Prince on it... There4 i have lots of boots from that period...

Boris smile I know about the promo u talked about, I once saw a Leno show or some other (can't remember ) where he gave the presentor of the show a copy of the Gold foil Gold experience...

Also I remember that on the Act II tour Prince used 2 play new clips of his songs b4 coming onstage... The clips where Zannalee, Empty Room, 18 & Over and Same December... Could it be that it was a sort of teaser 4 the abondoned Dawn project ??? If so it would mean that Empty Room was slated 4 The Dawn or maybe even the Gold Experience or Come???


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Reply #71 posted 08/10/04 10:56am

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starbuck said:

Also I remember that on the Act II tour Prince used 2 play new clips of his songs b4 coming onstage... The clips where Zannalee, Empty Room, 18 & Over and Same December... Could it be that it was a sort of teaser 4 the abondoned Dawn project ??? If so it would mean that Empty Room was slated 4 The Dawn or maybe even the Gold Experience or Come???


No, that was on the Gold Tour in spring '95 and those tracks/videos were off of Chaos And Disorder (late '94 configuration). biggrin

Of course, Zannalee may very well have been on The Dawn, too. nod

As for Same December, it has a sound quite similar to the updated, released version of Dolphin, so Same December was probably recorded about the same time as Dolphin got updated. But I don't know when Dolphin got updated. Possibly that didn't happen until for the September/October configuration of Gold Exp. in 1994. confuse
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Reply #72 posted 08/10/04 7:05pm

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scififilmnerd said:

starbuck said:

Also I remember that on the Act II tour Prince used 2 play new clips of his songs b4 coming onstage... The clips where Zannalee, Empty Room, 18 & Over and Same December... Could it be that it was a sort of teaser 4 the abondoned Dawn project ??? If so it would mean that Empty Room was slated 4 The Dawn or maybe even the Gold Experience or Come???


No, that was on the Gold Tour in spring '95 and those tracks/videos were off of Chaos And Disorder (late '94 configuration). biggrin

Of course, Zannalee may very well have been on The Dawn, too. nod

As for Same December, it has a sound quite similar to the updated, released version of Dolphin, so Same December was probably recorded about the same time as Dolphin got updated. But I don't know when Dolphin got updated. Possibly that didn't happen until for the September/October configuration of Gold Exp. in 1994. confuse
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Yes u are right, that was the Gold Tour... Sorry 4 my error. Damn did i love that tour!!!
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Reply #73 posted 08/11/04 5:42am

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Initially, I just posted the parts of Virgo’s research into Prince’s prince –period that had to do with unreleased albums. But personally, I find this following part very entertaining and have decided to post it for those of you who might appreciate this information, too. And it DOES have to do with Gold, so…

After the release of Come, prince and W.B. negotiated a deal. For $4 million up front, Warners would release The Black Album in late ’94 followed by The Gold Experience in spring ’95. These two albums, along with an unspecified soundtrack for a W.B. movie, would count as two albums out of the remaining four in his contract. prince agreed to the terms.
At the last minute, prince changed his mind, presumably wanting more money. His attorney told him that it was the best deal he could get and advised him to sign it, but prince didn’t heed his advise and the deal fell through. (The attorney quit his job a week later.)
After this, prince started writing “slave” on his face, he “released” a video for the song Dolphin (previously from Come, now slated to be on The Gold Exp.) and announced that The Gold Exp.’s release date was: NEVER!
Saved from the original (Black/Gold/soundtrack) deal was the release of The Black Album. prince signed his agreement on October 25. He received almost $1 million for this release.
The legendary Black Album was released in November 1994. prince ’s PR-people claimed that he was “spiritually against” the release and that he had been forced to sign the agreement.
Levi Seacer, Jr, NPG label-boss, had a falling-out with prince and left NPG Records.


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Reply #74 posted 08/11/04 5:47am

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scififilmnerd said:

Initially, I just posted the parts of Virgo’s research into Prince’s prince –period that had to do with unreleased albums. But personally, I find this following part very entertaining and have decided to post it for those of you who might appreciate this information, too. And it DOES have to do with Gold, so…

After the release of Come, prince and W.B. negotiated a deal. For $4 million up front, Warners would release The Black Album in late ’94 followed by The Gold Experience in spring ’95. These two albums, along with an unspecified soundtrack for a W.B. movie, would count as two albums out of the remaining four in his contract. prince agreed to the terms.
At the last minute, prince changed his mind, presumably wanting more money. His attorney told him that it was the best deal he could get and advised him to sign it, but prince didn’t heed his advise and the deal fell through. (The attorney quit his job a week later.)
After this, prince started writing “slave” on his face, he “released” a video for the song Dolphin (previously from Come, now slated to be on The Gold Exp.) and announced that The Gold Exp.’s release date was: NEVER!
Saved from the original (Black/Gold/soundtrack) deal was the release of The Black Album. prince signed his agreement on October 25. He received almost $1 million for this release.
The legendary Black Album was released in November 1994. prince ’s PR-people claimed that he was “spiritually against” the release and that he had been forced to sign the agreement.
Levi Seacer, Jr, NPG label-boss, had a falling-out with prince and left NPG Records.


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he was “spiritually against” the release and that he had been forced to sign the agreement


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IstenSzek said:


he was “spiritually against” the release and that he had been forced to sign the agreement


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I just love these bits and pieces of information


Yes, that IS one of the entertaining highlights of that piece of info. Maybe financial considerations "forced" him? lol
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PS:

Is there any info on when all of the tracks from this era were recorded, much like the
recordingcharts in "DMSR" ?

I mean, that way I would like to compile a 3 or 4 disc boxset of all the tracks that he
recorded from the very first sessions from COME down to the last thing recorded 'till
the release of these albums.....

thanx a million if anyone could compose a list [even unreleased songs added]
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IstenSzek said:

PS:

Is there any info on when all of the tracks from this era were recorded, much like the
recordingcharts in "DMSR" ?

I mean, that way I would like to compile a 3 or 4 disc boxset of all the tracks that he
recorded from the very first sessions from COME down to the last thing recorded 'till
the release of these albums.....

thanx a million if anyone could compose a list [even unreleased songs added]


Sure. Just give me an hour or two to update my list with the info from this thread and I'll post it here. nod
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Reply #78 posted 08/11/04 6:43am

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scififilmnerd said:

IstenSzek said:

PS:

Is there any info on when all of the tracks from this era were recorded, much like the
recordingcharts in "DMSR" ?

I mean, that way I would like to compile a 3 or 4 disc boxset of all the tracks that he
recorded from the very first sessions from COME down to the last thing recorded 'till
the release of these albums.....

thanx a million if anyone could compose a list [even unreleased songs added]


Sure. Just give me an hour or two to update my list with the info from this thread and I'll post it here. nod



Thank you, that would be absolutely amazing.

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Reply #79 posted 08/11/04 7:34am

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Okay, just a few tidbits that I know. Hopefully these will help rather than add to the confusion. In 93 to 95, a friend of a friend was working at Paisley. As a result, I was hearing lots of different configurations and tracks at the time.

At one point "Acknowledge Me" was slated to be the single release follow-up to TMBGITW (mid 1994).

After prince played "Shhh" at his Valentines 94 show, Tevin Campbell told him to stop playing "his" song (hopefully Tevin was just joking). Joke or not, prince immediately went into the studio and recorded his own version, based on his live arrangement. This was done as an answer to Tevin as to whose song it actually was. Later on, supposedly after hearing the track on The Beautiful Experience TV special, WB asked for its inclusion on TGE.

In early 1993, Prince had tenative plans for an album release on his birthday. Later, this was pared down to the idea of an EP. Jon Bream reported on this at some point, although I cannot remember the source (it was quoted in Controvery fanzine that year, so dig out your copies to get the full scoop). At one point, I heard of a six track configuration that included "Peach", "Pope" "Interactive" and "Come" (not sure what the other two track were). WB balked at the idea, and it was shelved. This was a very brief idea that was very quickly shot down, so who knows how far it actually got. Its just an interesting footnote to all these different configurations.

The Beautiful Experience TV special version of "Come" was the original album version, with the Glam Slam Ulysses verion slated to be on the EP ("18 and Over" and the version that wound up on the album were also to be included on this EP). This is also the version that was to start out the configuration with two "Come"s. At one point, it was even rumoured that he was going to put these two different versions on two different albums. TBETV special version would have been on "Gold", while the longer sax version would have been on "Come". The idea was to have the single represent both albums, in much the same way as Guns & Roses had used two different versions of "Don't Cry" to promote both "Use Your Illusion" discs. One would have been marketed to the pop stations, while the other would be edited down and marketed to the R&B audience. Whether or not this was ever really a serious consideration, or just a brief idea that came up in conversation, I just don't know. I tend to think the latter, since I never did see any configurations of these albums that were laid out this way.
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Reply #80 posted 08/11/04 7:54am

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Okay. Here is my chronological list of Prince’s recordings covering the period discussed in this thread. The list is first and foremost based on the information in Uptown’s invaluable Turn It Up and Days Of Wild publications. I have added information gleaned from articles/publications (like New World being recorded in January 1994). nod
I have also added multiple versions of circulating outtakes and released versions, placing them using nothing but logical reasoning, and of course that can be faulty. So if anyone has any corrections to point out, please do not hesitate to post them. biggrin
Released versions are followed by an asterisk (*).
I have added the times for circulating outtakes that I know of. biggrin

Please bear in mind that it is a work in continuing progress. wink

Relevant excepts from 1992:
The NPG, Studios 301, Sydney, 25 April – 3 May 1992
Peach*

Olympic Studio, London, 18 June 1992
Shhh #1

Tevin Campbell, late October 1992
Shhh #2*

The Paisley Park Power Trio, 2 January 1993
Come #1 (4:44) - segued with
Endorphin Machine #1 (3:51)
Dark #1 (6:26)
Dolphin #1 (6:27)
Laurianne #1
Dream

Come, Paisley Park, January 1993
Pheromone*
Papa #1
Dance Of Desperation (18/1)
Laurianne #2

Come, Paisley Park, February 1993
Loose! #1 (3:20)
No Cones Allowed (16/2) – for the film “The Coneheads”, horn overdubs by Eric Leeds 12/6-‘93
Down (Prince/Levi Seacer, Jr./Kirk Johnson/Sonny Thompson/Michael Bland/Rosie Gaines) – tentative placing, Library of Congress registration 1/10-‘93
Egyptian Intro #1 (Instrumental)

Come Musical, late March 1993
Solo* – lyrics by David Henry Hwang
Strays Of The World*

Pre 27 April 1993
BET’s Video LP Theme #1 (3:56) – instrumental version of Pheromone
BET’s Video LP Theme #2 (3:00) – edit of #1
The Call – tentative placing
Fuck D Press (21/4)

Come & Glam-O-Rama (later “Glam Slam Ulysses”), May 1993
Space #1 (5:26)
Race #2 (4:01)
Pope*
What's My Name #1*
Poem #1 (3:36) – segued with
What’s My Name? #2 (3:09)
Zannalee #1 (2:49)
I Wanna Be Held Tonight (19/5)
Emotional Crucifixion (26/5)
Interactive #1*

Come, June 1993
Come #2 (3:15) – edit of #1, tentative placing, aired over the PA before some after shows on Act II

The Paisley Park Power Trio: The Undertaker, Paisley Park, 14 June 1993
Peach #2
The Ride #1 (10:53)
Poorgoo #1 (4:26)
Honky Tonk Women (3:01) (Mick Jagger/Keith Richards) – cover of The Rolling Stones
Bambi (4:03) - previously released
Zannalee (Prelude) (0:44)
The Undertaker (9:45) - previously released
Dolphin #2 (3:37)
The Ride #2 (Video Version) (10:33)
Poorgoo #2 (Video Version) (4:26)
Dolphin #3 (Video Version) (3:35)

Paisley Park, 15 June 1993
Calhoun Square #1 (4:30)
Calhoun Square #2* - tentative placing

26 June 1993
The Mad Pope – possibly a remix of Pope

NPG: Goldnigga, late June 1993 – album completed
2Gether (3:51)

Madhouse: 24, Paisley Park, 7 July 1993 – post-production by Ricky Peterson in late August – September 1993
- o)+>: Keyboards, Levi Seacer, Jr.: Guitar, Sonny Thompson: Bass, Eric Leeds: Saxophone, Michael Bland: Drums
(Got 2) Give It Up (7:19) (Marvin Gaye) – originally titled Got To Give It Up, co-vocal by Nona Gaye
Space #2 (4:47)
Parlor Games (4:01)
Carnac* – later retitled 17
Edward (7:09) – later retitled Asswoop, then Asswhoopin’ In A Trunk
Rootie Kazootie (7:05)

NPG: 2Gether – the remixes, 1993
2Gether (12” Mix)
2Gether (Interview)
2Gether (Enlightenment)
2Gether (LEEp Mix)
2Gether (Instrumental)

I’ll Do Anything Soundtrack, summer 1993
Cast: Wow #2
Cast: Make Believe #3
Cast: Make Believe #3 Pt.II
Julie Kavner: My Little Pill #2
Albert Brooks: There’s Lonely #3
Nick Nolte: Be My Mirror #2
Julie Kavner: I Can’t Love U Anymore #2
Melissa Etheridge: I Can’t Love U Anymore #3
Tracey Ullman: Don’t Talk 2 Strangers #2
Albert Brooks: I’ll Do Anything #3
Cast: I’ll Do Anything Medley (7:29)

Bullet Sound, Nederhorst den Berg, 12 August 1993
The P #2 – lead vocal: Tevin Campbell

The Hits Remixes, 1993
Pope (12” Remix) (6:06)
Pink Cashmere (12” Remix) (6:19) – featuring Steppa Ranks
Erotic City (Remix) - played by DJ at Paisley Park 27/1-'94 along with Pink Cashmere (12" Remix)

Madhouse, 31 August 1993
Slaughterhouse #2 – saxophone: Eric Leeds

Guillome Tell Studios, Paris, 2 September 1993
It’s About That Walk #1
+ some recordings with Ophélie Winter

Mayte, Paisley Park, 13 September 1993 – spring 1994
Latino Barbie Doll #2 (4:55) (Sept.)
If I Could Get Your Attention (2:47) - previously released
Love’s No Fun #1 (3:41) – previously released
The Juice #2
Mayte On Top #2 (previously “Carmen On Top”)
Go Mayte Go #2 (previously “Go Carmen Go”)
This Is My House - previously released

Paisley Park, 20 September 1993
The Most Beautiful Girl In The World*
Slave 2 The Funk

Paisley Park, 10 October 1993
Now*
Ripopgodazippa* – offered to Showgirls Soundtrack 12/2-‘95
Shy #1 (4:50)

The Dawn, mid to late October 1993
Gold #1 (5:56)
Strawberries (25/10) – with The Hornheadz
319* (25/10) – offered to Showgirls Soundtrack 12/2-‘95
Billy Jack Bitch #1 (7:08)
Chaos And Disorder #1 (4:11) – recorded on the same day as
Right The Wrong #1 (4:40)
Acknowledge Me #1 (6:24)
Listen 2 The Rhythm #2 – tentative placing
NPG Operator Segues
+ “other tracks not ending up on The Gold Experience”

Nona Gaye, Paisley Park, 5 November 1993
Snow Man (4:16)
A 1.000 Hugs & Kisses #3 (4:23) – tentative placing
Inner City Blues (Marvin Gaye) – tentative placing

Guillome Tell, Paris, 10-22 November 1993
Hide The Bone*
It’s About That Walk #2* - possibly identical with #1

Come, pre January 1994
Come #3 (3:17)
Race #3 (6:15)
Race #4 (5:00) – edit of #3
Papa #2*
Loose! #2 (3:25)
Dark #2* - edit of #1
Space #3* – edit of #1

Poet 99, 1993 - 1994
3 Shots (2:12)
Burn Baby Burn (2:47)
It's Our Music (2:09)
Give God A Try (3:05)
The Boom (3:08)

The Beautiful Experience/Gold/The Gold Album, Paisley Park, 20 January – early 1994
New World*
Interactive #2 (2:25)
Days Of Wild #1 (6:08)
Days Of Wild #2 (5:35) – edit of #1
Acknowledge Me #2*
Shy #2 (5:04)
Eye Hate U #1 (6:15)
Gold #2 (7:36)
Mayte & The NPG: Box Talk 777 – TV commercial
Instrumental (ca.2:00) – from the TV movie, following Shhh

The Beautiful Experience, Paisley Park, February 1994
Beautiful*
Staxowax*
Mustang Mix*
Flutestramental*
Sexy Staxophone And Guitar*
Mustang Instrumental*
Beautiful (Extended Club Version) (6:25)*
Saxophone Version (Brian’s Mix) (4:30)*
Beautiful Beats (3:30)*
The Beautiful Experience Medley (10:26) (March)

Come, Paisley Park, March 1994
Poem #2 (3:37)
Interactive #3 (3:04)
Endorphine Machine #2 (3:50)
Loose! #3*
Race #5* - edit of #4
Letitgo*

The Gold Experience, March 1994
Days Of Wild #3 (3:47) – edit of #2
Shhh!* - previously released
The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (Album Version)* - previously released
Shy #3*
Billy Jack Bitch #2* - tentative placing
Eye Hate U #2*
Gold #3*

Nona Gaye, pre 9 April 1994
Love Sign* – co-lead vocal: Nona Gaye
Love Sign (Alternative Version)
Nona Gaye: A Woman’s Gotta Have It* (Bobby & Linda Womack/D. Carter) – tentative placing

Come, Paisley Park, mid April 1994
Come #4*
Orgasm #3* (previously “Poem”)

Mayte, April 1994 – tentative placings
The Most Beautiful Boy In The World*
?Quieres ser el mas bello de este mundo?*
If Eye Love U 2Night #2*
If Eye Love U 2Night (Spanish)*

MPLS: Minneapolis single, spring 1994
Minneapolis (12-Inch Mix) (7:00)

Spring – summer 1994
None Of Your Business – not mentioned in Turn It Up 2.0
What It Is… - not mentioned in Turn It Up 2.0
Strength – not mentioned in Turn It Up 2.0
Angie – cover of The Rolling Stones, not mentioned in Turn It Up 2.0
Glam Slam Boogie
Get Wild #1 (5:35) – tentative placing

Kamasutra, March – late July 1994
At Last... The Lost Is Found*
Barcelona*
Coincidence Or Fate*
Cutz*
The Ever Changing Light*
Kamasutra*
Kamasutra/Eternal Embrace*
Kamasutra/Overture #8*
The Plan*
Promise/Broken*
Seratonin*

Love Sign – The Remixes, pre June 1994
Ted’s Get ‘em Up Mix (6:23)
Ted’s Funky Chariot Mix (6:52)
Mack Attack Message Mix (4:33)
Ted’s Double Trouble Mix (6:52)
Ted’s Love Sign Radio Mix (6:19)
Shock’s Silky Smooth Mix* – released as Lovesign (Remix By Shock G.)
Shock’s Silky Smooth INT’s (4:22)

NPG: Exodus, Paisley Park, 15 May – mid June 1994 – 1st album configuration 19 June
The Good Life* (May)
N.P.G. Bumrush The Ship (Segue) #1 (1:33)
The Exodus Has Begun #1 (10:45) – retitled Exodus on 2nd configuration
N.P.G. Operator (Segue)* - released as NPG Operator Intro
Get Wild #2 (5:56)
Count (Segue) #1 (0:49)* - later retitled Sonny Turns The TV Off
Count The Days*
DJ Gets Jumped (Segue)*
New Power Soul #1 (3:57)
DJ Seduces Sonny (Segue) #1 (0:45)
It Takes 3 (3:59) (15/5)
Rain (Segue) #1 (0:16)
Hallucination Rain #1 (11:07)
Spooky Soup (Segue) (0:09)
N.P.G. Outro (0:11)

Remixes of Letitgo, mid 1994
Caviar Radio Edit*
Cavi’ Street Edit*
Instrumental*
On The Cool-Out Tip Radio Edit*
(-) Sherm Stick Edit*

Madhouse: 24, mid 1994 – album completed
Guitar Segue (1:05) – later retitled Asswoop Segue
Ethereal (0:31)
Michael B. (0:41)
Sonny T. (1:42)

July 1994
Pussy Control #1 (6:33)
Realize – tentative placing, horn overdubs added by The Hornheadz 25/7-‘94
Get Wild #3* – Pret-A-Porter version, tentative placing

Jevetta Steele, 1994
Jevetta Steele: Ain’t No Place Like U #1 (3:55)

Pre September 1994
Mad #1 (5:26) – offered to From Dusk ’til Dawn Soundtrack in ’95 along with The Funk Of A 1000 Years (not mentioned in Turn It Up 2.0) & Alone In The Dark (possibly a Dark remix)
Funky Design #1 (3:39) – tentative placing

Space single, 1994
Universal Love Remix*
Funky Stuff Remix*
Funky Stuff Dub*
Acoustic Remix*

The Gold Experience, September – October 1994 – album completed
P. Contol #2*
Endorphinmachine #3*
We March*
Dolphin #4*

The Wild Experience single, pre 14 October 1994
Get Wild (Money Maker)*
Get Wild (Kirky J’s Get Wild)*
Get Wild (Club Mix)*
Get Wild (Get Wild In The House)*
Get Wild #4*
Get Wild (Money Maker Funky Jazz Mix)*

Come single, pre 14 October 1994
18 & Over #1 (6:38)
18 & Over #2 (5:40)* - edit of #1

Ashley Davis, autumn – winter 1994
Ashley Davis: On Your Own (5:05)

Derek Hughes, autumn – winter 1994
Derek Hughes: Somebody’s Somebody #1 (4.27)
Derek Hughes: Somebody’s Somebody #2 (4:25)

NPG: Exodus, second half of 1994 – 2nd album configuration 2 December 1994
Get Wild #5 (4:30)
Slave #1 (1:01) – later retitled Slave 2 The System
Acknowledge Me #3 (5:14)
Super Hero (7:20) - previously released, incorporates Outa-Space (Billy Preston/Greene) – cover of Billy Preston
Sonny Segue #1 (0:50) – longer than the released version, Sonny ads: “How can he see with that mask on? Fuck that! Put me in the trunk.”
New Power Soul #2 (5:38)
Mad #2 (5:26)
Love, Thy Will Be Done (4:41) - previously released
Funky (4:14) (Chambers) – cover of The Chamber Brothers
Proud Mary (4:19) (John Fogerty) – cover of Creedence Clearwater Revival, lead vocal: Derek Hughes
Funky Design #2 (4:18)

Chaos And Disorder, November - December 1994
The Same December* - pre 8/11
18 & Over #3 (Video Version) (3:54) – edit of #2, around 8/11
I Like It There #1
Zannalee #2 (2:49) – possibly identical with #1
Empty Room #3 (3:18)

NPG: Exodus, December 1994 – album completed in early 1995
Segue*
New Power Soul #3*
Segue #2* (previously “Sonny Turns The TV Off”)
Cherry Cherry*
Segue #2* (previously “Sonny Segue”)
Return Of The Bump Squad* – horn overdubs added by Eric Leeds 16/1-‘95
Mashed Potato Girl Intro*
Segue*
Big Fun* – horn overdubs added by Eric Leeds 16/1-‘95
New Power Day*
Segue #2* (previously “Rain”)
Hallucination Rain #2*
NPG Bum Rush The Ship (Segue) #2*
The Exodus Has Begun #2*
Outro*
NPG Operator segues from NPG Artist Sampler (1:03)* - tentative placing
Free The Music #1 (3:23) – tentative placing
Free The Music #2* - edit of #1, tentative placing

Pre 5 January 1995
Loose Dub #1 – later retitled (Lemme See That Body) Get Loose! (3:43)
Loose Dub #2* - released as Get Loose
So Dark* – tentative placing, possibly identical with Alone In The Dark
Alone In The Dark – tentative placing, offered to From Dusk ‘til Dawn Soundtrack in 1995
The Funk Of A Thousand Years – tentative placing, offered to From Dusk ‘til Dawn Soundtrack in 1995, not mentioned in Turn It Up 2.0

Kirk J. Remixes, winter 1994
Head (3:58)
When Doves Cry (5:03)
Pop Life (4:48)
Alphabet St. (5:58)
Purple Medley*
Kirk J.’s B Sides Remix*

Pre 3 March 1995
Egyptian Intro #2 (Instrumental)

Stevie Wonder, pre 21 March 1995
Cold Chill (Stevie Wonder) – guitar: o)+> (unreleased)

Emancipation, January - summer 1995 – 1st configuration July 1995
Good Pussy – horn overdubs by Eric Leeds added 16/1-‘95
Eye Am The DJ (4:47) – horn overdubs by Eric Leeds added 16/1-‘95
Feelgood (4:06) (early ’95)
Good Dick And A Job – aired at Paisley Park 19/5-‘95
PoomPoom*
Right Back Here In My Arms #1 (6:16)
Right Back Here In My Arms #2 (4:33) (Edit of #1)
Slave 2 The System #2 (3:05)
Slave #1 (5:09) – without drum effects on chorus
2020 (2:05)
Journey 2 The Center Of Your Heart #1 (4:15)
Emancipation #1 (4:30)
(Excuse Me Is This) Goodbye #2* - tentative placing, included on 2nd configuration
Die – tentative placing, Library of Congress registration 25/8-’95 along with Right Back..., Journey 2... & Poom Poom

Mayte: Child Of The Sun, pre 5 May 1995 – 1st album configuration 5 May 1995
Children Of The Sun #1 (4:22)
In Your Gracious Name #1 (5:00)
The Rhythm Of Your Heart #3 (previously “Listen 2 The Rhythm) (5:37) – includes a rap by o)+>
Ain’t No Place Like U #2 (4:33)
House Of Brick (Brick House) #1 (4:27) (William King/Thomas McCleary/Walter Orange/Lionel Richie/Milan Williams/Ronald LaPread) – cover of The Commodores, originally titled Brick House
Love’s No Fun #2 (3:52) - previously released
Baby Don’t Care #2 (previously “Holly Don’t Care”) (5:41)
However Much U Want #2 (4:43)
Mo’ Better #1 (4:54)
If Eye Love U 2Night (3:25) - previously released

Remixes, Pre 13 June 1995
Beautiful Girl*
Loïs Lane: I Wanna Be (Loïs Lane) – remix
The Good Life (Bullets Go Bang Remix)*
The Good Life (Big City Remix)*
Eye Hate U (7” Edit w/o Guitar)*
Eye Hate U (Album Edit)*
Eye Hate U (Quiet Night Mix by Eric Leeds)*
Eye Hate U (Extended Remix)*
Eye Hate U (Album Version)* - without NPG Operator
P. Control (House Mix) (5:42)
P. Control (Club Mix) #1 (6:02)
P. Control (Club Mix) #2*

Stacy Francis, Paisley Park, June 1995
Journey 2 The Center Of Your Heart #2
Over The Rainbow (Harold Arlen/Yip Harburg) – cover of Judy Garland

Live at Paisley Park, 18 June 1995
The Volkswagen Blues (3:51) – tentative title, ad-libbed lyrics to music based on Mary, Don’t You Weep

Sandra St. Victor, summer 1995
Soul Sanctuary #1 (4:32) (Prince/Sandra St. Victor/Johnny Kemp)
Eye’ll Never B Another Fool #1 (3:13) (Prince/Sandra St. Victor)
Livin’ 2 Die (3:34) (Prince/Sandra St. Victor) – bootlegged as Living 2 Die (Our Lives)
Stone (3:02) (Prince/Sandra St. Victor) – possibly titled Heart Of Stone or Nothing Left But A Stone
Van Gogh #1 (4:58)

The Versace Experience, July 1995
P. Control (Club Mix Edit) (3:04)
Eye Hate U (Remix) (3:28) – Quiet Night Mix + Extended Remix
Billy Jack Bitch (2:31) – remixed edit
Chatounette Controle (2:38)
P. Control (Control Tempo Edit) (1:23) – outro of House Mix
Segue (0:49) – remix of NPG Operator preceding TMBGITW on The Gold Experience

Madhouse, 1995 – tentative placing
18 And Over
Kamasutra Instrumental
Kamasutra/Overture #8 (2:39)

Mayte: Child Of The Sun, 1995 – tentative placing
Children Of The Sun #2*
In Your Gracious Name #2*
The Rhythm Of Your Heart #3*
Ain’t No Place Like U #3*
House Of Brick (Brick House) #2* (William King/Thomas McCleary/Walter Orange/Lionel Richie/Milan Williams/Ronald LaPread)
Love’s No Fun #3* - previously released
Baby Don’t Care #3*
However Much U Want #3*
Mo’ Better #2*

Emancipation, 9 September 1995
The Emancipation Proclamation - lyric sheet handed out at Paisley Park
Slave #2* – tentative placing, handed out on cassette in December ‘95

Paisley Park, 12-14 September 1995
Rock’n’Roll Is Alive! (And It Lives In Minneapolis)* (12/9)
Rock’n’Roll Is Alive! (And It Lives In Minneapolis) (Tony Fly Mix) (4:40) (14/9)
Rock’n’Roll Is Alive! (And It Lives In Minneapolis) – longer version, debuted 18/9
Rock’n’Roll Is Alive! (And It Lives In Minneapolis) (Alternative Version) (4:24)

October 1995
5 Women #2* - with The NPG Hornz, previously released
Starfish And Coffee (3:17) - previously released

November 1995
Betcha By Golly Wow!* (Thom Bell/Linda Creed) – cover of The Stylistics
2Morrow*
One Of Us #1 (Eric Brazilian)– cover of Joan Osborne

The NPG: Girl 6, December 1995
Girl 6* (Tommy Barbarella/o)+>) – co-lead vocal: Nona Gaye
Girl 6 (Extended Version) (4:41)

Early 1996
Egyptian Intro #3 (Instrumental)
Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife*
Let’s Have A Baby*
One Kiss At A Time*
The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (Mustang Mix ’96) (4:25) – tentative placing

o)+> & The NPG, Paisley Park, late February – The NPG is disbanded 8 March 1996
Into The Light*
I Will*
Sarah #1 (2:50)
Da Bang*
Saviour*
I Rock, Therefore I Am* (March)
One Of Us #2* - tentative placing

Chaos And Disorder & The Vault, March 1996 – delivered to W.B. 26/4-‘96
Sarah #2*
Had U*
Dig U Better Dead*
Dinner With Delores* – tentative placing
Chaos And Disorder #2* - tentative placing

The Paisley Park Power Trio: Chaos And Disorder, South Beach Studios, Miami, late March – early April 1996
I Like It There #2* - with Sonny Thompson & Michael Bland
Chaos And Disorder #3 – with Sonny Thompson & Michael Bland
Right The Wrong #2* – with Sonny Thompson & Michael Bland

shocked

I can see from my very own list that this raises a question about when exactly Prince got together with David Henry Hwang to propose the Come musical AND if the cassette Boris recalled having seen was indeed the one Henry Hwang got a copy of, then that also raises the question about when exactly tracks like Space and Poem where recorded. omfg

Boris? headlp

NPG Edit! biggrin
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[Edited 10/7/04 14:20pm]
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Reply #81 posted 08/11/04 8:19am

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very impressive list!...where do all these information come from? and those new titled mentioned?? never heard of them...how do u know those titles such as None of your business,Strenght,Emotional Crucifixion,The funk of a 1000 years etc.??? eek
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Reply #82 posted 08/11/04 8:24am

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The Funk Of 1000 Years was, at one point, rumoured to be a duet with Madonna. Don't know if she actually contributed vocals, or if that was just Prince's intention.
jedi

Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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scififilmnerd said:
I can see from my very own list that this raises a question about when exactly Prince got together with David Henry Hwang to propose the Come musical AND if the cassette Boris recalled having seen was indeed the one Henry Hwang got a copy of, then that also raises the question about when exactly tracks like Space and Poem where recorded. omfg

Boris? :headlp:


Yeah, working out exactly when Prince actually recorded a lot of these tracks is very difficult.
Tracks often appear out of nowhere, and then you find out they were recorded ages ago!
According to Days Of Wild, Space was recorded in May 1993. Though of course if the cassette
I saw is the same one that Prince gave to David Henry Hwang (which seems quite likely, since
it doesn't include 'Solo', the track they wrote together) then that would mean that Space was
already in existance in March '93. Of course it's also possible that the cassette was assembled
post-May. Who knows. I didn't hear it until a year or so later, so I have no way of knowing
when exactly it was compiled (it was the usual style Paisley Park in-house cassette, but
unusually it had no artist, tracklisting or date written on it). But it was described as being "the
earliest known version of 'Come', made before it was even called 'Come'" (or something like
that).
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scififilmnerd

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BorisFishpaw said:

Yeah, working out exactly when Prince actually recorded a lot of these tracks is very difficult.
Tracks often appear out of nowhere, and then you find out they were recorded ages ago!
According to Days Of Wild, Space was recorded in May 1993. Though of course if the cassette
I saw is the same one that Prince gave to David Henry Hwang (which seems quite likely, since
it doesn't include 'Solo', the track they wrote together) then that would mean that Space was
already in existance in March '93. Of course it's also possible that the cassette was assembled
post-May. Who knows. I didn't hear it until a year or so later, so I have no way of knowing
when exactly it was compiled (it was the usual style Paisley Park in-house cassette, but
unusually it had no artist, tracklisting or date written on it). But it was described as being "the
earliest known version of 'Come', made before it was even called 'Come'" (or something like
that).


Well... I suppose later research must have shown that Prince and Henry Hwang actually collaborated in late March rather than in April/May which was the assumed time when Virgo did her research a few years ago. And if the cassette he got a copy of is the cassette you mention - which I strongly suspect it must be, considering it was described to you as "the
earliest known version of 'Come', made before it was even called 'Come'" - then I will change the date of the cassette to March. nod

Also, with Prince mentioning "a new album" on 10 April, March does indeed seem quite likely. biggrin
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Reply #85 posted 08/11/04 9:45am

fiveorange

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Thanks, Squirrelgrease. biggrin

In May 1995, prince and Warner Brothers reached an agreement for the release of The Gold Experience. By now, prince was already working on Emancipation.

- Personally, I think prince should have just skipped The Gold Experience and released Heart or Chaos And Disorder instead. That way, we might have gotten Chaos And Disorder while that album still had a good configuration AND The Gold Experience would have become as mythical an album as The Black Album. nod
But, NO! We had to have that godawful version of Endorphinmachine! stab
And then we had to have that godawful version of Zannalee! stab

How many versions of "Endorphinmachine" are there? I like the one I have on The Gold Experience album.




Which just goes to show that the sooner a new Prince album is released, the better, because if he has time to make changes while waiting for the release, the changes aren't always for the better. sad
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Reply #86 posted 08/11/04 9:50am

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IS ALL THIS THREAD REALLY ABOUT WHAT PRINCE NOT ACTUALLY DO?

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JediMaster said:

After prince played "Shhh" at his Valentines 94 show, Tevin Campbell told him to stop playing "his" song (hopefully Tevin was just joking). Joke or not, prince immediately went into the studio and recorded his own version, based on his live arrangement. This was done as an answer to Tevin as to whose song it actually was. Later on, supposedly after hearing the track on The Beautiful Experience TV special, WB asked for its inclusion on TGE.


Sounds quite likely as its sound is similar to the album version of The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. biggrin
And then when Warners asked for it, he could have then made the decision to go even further an actually put it on the Gold Exp. album. nod
So I've moved it on my list - to the March recordings for Gold Exp., although it wasn't included on the album at the time, but was probably recorded around the same time. biggrin

JediMaster said:

In early 1993, Prince had tenative plans for an album release on his birthday. Later, this was pared down to the idea of an EP. Jon Bream reported on this at some point, although I cannot remember the source (it was quoted in Controvery fanzine that year, so dig out your copies to get the full scoop). At one point, I heard of a six track configuration that included "Peach", "Pope" "Interactive" and "Come" (not sure what the other two track were). WB balked at the idea, and it was shelved. This was a very brief idea that was very quickly shot down, so who knows how far it actually got. Its just an interesting footnote to all these different configurations.


I've never heard this. If so, the album could have been the May configuration of Come and then the idea of an EP would probably be The Undertaker which he did indeed plan to release on his birthday, only Warners ordered all printed copies destroyed. biggrin I mean: omfg
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JediMaster said:

The Beautiful Experience TV special version of "Come" was the original album version, with the Glam Slam Ulysses verion slated to be on the EP ("18 and Over" and the version that wound up on the album were also to be included on this EP). This is also the version that was to start out the configuration with two "Come"s.


Okay. I'll nail that down on the April configuration and delete the Poem option. biggrin

JediMaster said:

At one point, it was even rumoured that he was going to put these two different versions on two different albums. TBETV special version would have been on "Gold", while the longer sax version would have been on "Come". The idea was to have the single represent both albums, in much the same way as Guns & Roses had used two different versions of "Don't Cry" to promote both "Use Your Illusion" discs. One would have been marketed to the pop stations, while the other would be edited down and marketed to the R&B audience. Whether or not this was ever really a serious consideration, or just a brief idea that came up in conversation, I just don't know. I tend to think the latter, since I never did see any configurations of these albums that were laid out this way.


Despite no such known configuration being made, the idea could have been there. In fact, if there IS an uknown configuration of The Gold Experience in between the March and September/October configurations, the TV movie-version of Come might very well have been on it, as well as Lovesign as mentioned by IstenSzek earlier in this thread. biggrin
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Reply #88 posted 08/11/04 9:59am

fiveorange

scififilmnerd said:

In April 1996, prince and Mayte started work on their multimedia (book, cassette & CD) bedtime stories for children, entitled Happy Tears, to be released in November 1996 co-inciding with the expected birth of their first child.

- Does anyone know if a Happy Tears CD was ever made/finished? confuse

I can well imagine Be My Mirror on there. lol



Wow I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing.
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Reply #89 posted 08/11/04 10:07am

scififilmnerd

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fiveorange said:

How many versions of "Endorphinmachine" are there? I like the one I have on The Gold Experience album.


Two. The released version from 1994 which is an updated version of the original 1993 recording. I think the original version is far superior to the overproduced, released version. biggrin
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