DarkKnight1 said:

It's not rocket science.

Apart from typos THE VAULT is a grammatical minefield, which means anybody with a tenuous grasp of the English language should easily be able to spot at least a further 200 linguistic inaccuracies. And I'm sure the UPTOWN staff will be grateful for pointing them out.

Besides, you don't have to get involved if you don't want to .

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If I had a copy, I'd be more than happy to search out the grammatical errors and typos, but as such, I do not own The Vault. Oh well.

MrDespuez said:

Pity. I'm quite sure you'd have a lot of fun while you're at it.

I suspect you'd run away with the prize too!

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giotto said:

most likely.

hmmm, of course it was written by Prince they would have called him every name under the sun!.

are you sending these to Uptown or collecting them in order to get a free happy meal ?

stop point scoring and do something constructive by sending them directly to Uptown

freakyfeet said:

It was a valid question dansa and you snipped it why exactly ?

Please don't let this place become NPGMC forums

freakyfeet said:

The former.

No point scoring involved.

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freakyfeet said:

because you could've asked your "question" without acting like a smart-ass, that's why. either contribute to the topic at hand and keep your snide commentary to yourself or don't post at all.

ain't that hard to do, really.

In the section titled "Purple Music, The Circulating Recordings", time estimates are given alongside titles of currently circulating unreleased songs, or officially unavailable versions of existing songs. Those of us who care about such things can only be grateful for such a helpful way of compiling a survey of this kind.

"All timings are approximate", warns the feature. Which is why I will point to time estimates that either fall short or go over five seconds of what is actually circulating.

If anybody begs to differ with my post then feel free to provide soundly argued, reasonable input.

Since THE VAULT is being billed as "the most comprehensive and authoritative guide to Prince's music ever assembled" - and there is no doubt that it is - it is only fitting that the following observation is made for the sake of accuracy.


p.663: 1983-1984[I] sessions: "Computer Blue #2" (11:57) (12:07)
p.666: 1985[II]-1986[I] sessions: "All My Dreams" (7:19) (7:09)
p.669: 1987-1988[I] sessions: "Fuchsia Light" (4:06) (4:16)
p.672: 1990[II]-1991[I] sessions: "Player" (3:47) (3:55)
p.674: 1993-1994 sessions: "Calhoun Square" (4:30) (4:41)
p.674: 1993-1994 sessions: "P.Control" (6:33) (6:40)
p.674: 1993-1994 sessions: "Proud Mary" (4:07) (4:17)


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OK G! I'm going to take the challenge and find some more! (as we are helping them out!)

Based on unreleased songs that have "emerged" since the publication of TURN IT UP 2.0 just over three years ago, issue 57 of UPTOWN magazine (July 2003) continued to revise the information previously published in TURN IT UP 2.0.

Under the 1983-1984 (I) sessions, UPTOWN listed "Erotic City #3" (8:42) as one of the unreleased songs that had "emerged".

Shortly afterwards, however, this "outtake" was identified as a fake that should have been consigned to the list of homemade bogus tracks, a fact widely publicised in collectors' forums like Housequake.

Not even the new The Work vols. 6-7 (11 disc set) contains this "Erotic City #3" fake.

Turn to page 663 however, and you'll find that THE VAULT has not corrected this.

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[This message was edited Tue Jul 27 9:01:52 2004 by giotto]

p. 292, under the entry for december 13th, 2003--relevant bit is here:

A fundraiser for the Lil' Angel Buddy Foundation[...]

...it's lil' angel bunny.

giotto said:

his last name's spelled withers.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Lol! Thanks, Dansa... Looks like typos CAN be contagious after all!!!

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SquirrelMeat said:

Don't forget the prize I'm offering for your efforts: a spanking, clean looking new transfer "Diamonds And Pearls" London show on DVD.

Regarding the above gig I think it's time I outed my own intentional typo:

The correct date for that gig is 24th June 1992, not 25th as I'd stated repeatedly. There was no gig on 25th June 1992.

Surprised no-one noticed it and gave me a clip around the ear for it...


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giotto said:

wow. What amazing eyes! I've been reading it alot (great book-amazing research) but I only noticed a few of these. I guess since it was probably written in Swedish first, maybe that is why there are so many errors. Its funny, that one book (Rise and Fall of Prince) had alot too, but people hated that book and seem to love The Vault. Why is that?

Good eyes. Wish I could find some for you but you seem to be doing a great job.

Bsunshine said:

THE VAULT is not nearly as opinionated as "Rise and Fall".

Besides, THE VAULT is far easier to love than "Fall" because it's so painstakingly detailed.
It's quite obvious that a lot of effort, sweat and tears has gone into putting the whole shebang together. It truly is an invaluable wealth of amazingly detailed information at anybody's fingertips and we should all be grateful for it.


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p.230: 12 October 1998: "...former Prince band members Levi Seacer Jr. and Tony Mosley.The suit claimed that Prince hadn't shared royalties they were owned for songs they had co-written..." (owed).

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Ok, here goes...

p.222: 10 April 1998: “The symbol of the cross comes from ancient false religions, according to Jehovah’s Witness” (Witnesses)
p.225: 30 June 1998: “…amongst the celebrities attending were… Mel B of Spice Girls”. (The)
p.226: 31 July 1998: “Prince attends…Spice Girls’ concert at the Target Center in Minneapolis”. (The)
p.230: 17 October 1998: “Even with a bad leg, I’m still gonna kick you ass tonight!” (your – or even yo’. “You” is phonetically wrong)
p.232: 11 December 1998: “To some degree, Prince has maintained the pretence that he and Mayte are still a couple… Mayte and Prince were for all
intents and purposes living separate lives”. (to all intents and purposes).
p.233: 24 December [AM] 1998: “Next was Stevie Wonder’s “Superstition”, but Prince cut it short by saying that “it wasn’t written by us” (by saying:
“we didn’t write that”)
p.235: 17 April 1999: “At one point he handed out copies of Watchtower…” (The Watchtower).
p.237: 31 May [AM] 1999: “They played “Thank You (Falletin Me Be Mice Elf Agin)”. (Falettinme).
p.237: 31 May [AM] 1999: “The version of “Thank You (Falletin Me Be Mice Elf Agin)” was played in an arrangement close to the original
recording…” (Falettinme).
(typo repeated on 19 June [AM] 1999 + 26 June [AM] 1999, p.238 & 10 July [AM] 1999, p.239)
p.239: 3 July [AM] 1999: “…they were trying to give me this ole guitar…and a guitar pick the size of a dorrito!” (Dorito).
(same entry): “…with that, they were into a fast and jam filled take on “Release Yourself”. (went).
p.239: 19 July 1999: “He said that Prince lets them call him Prince but he doesn’t let the “shysters” called him that”. (call).
p.240: Late July 1999: “Prince works…at the Electric Ladyland Studio in New York He mixed “So Far, So Pleased”…” (“…New York. He mixed…”)
p.241: 4 September [AM] 1999: “Thank You (Faletin Me Be Mice Elf Agin)”. (Falettinme).
p.242: 6 September 1999: “Prince introduced “Prettyman” by saying that it was written for Morris Day, “But it was so funky, so I kept it”.
( “But it was so funky I decided to keep it”)
p.243: 9 October 1999: “He introduced “Let’s Work” by saying that it was a song from 1982 (it was released in 1981 on Controversy).
(it was released on 6th January 1982 as a single).
p.244: 9 November 1999: “…as well as for veterans Santana, who had made a remarkable comeback…” (veteran).

Anji said:

Congratulations dude!!!


As previously announced, that set of 20 typos entitles you to the shitty version of "Diamonds & Pearls" London '92 on DVD, your copy will be in the post tomorrow.

Thank God you live in ther UK...


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Anji said:

These two are my absolute favourites from that list


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Here's thirteen more:

p.235: 25 February 1999:
"The suit seeked to halt the publication of the magazine". (sought).

p.237: 22 May [AM] 1999:
"He stopped and instead the drum loop for "Love...They Will Be Done" kicked in." (Thy).

p.625: (Video Clips section): "Gett Off [Houstyle]"
"...with a close-up of Prince's piano following by a brief glimse of Prince's father...". (followed).

p.627: "7"
"Prince simultaneously kills off seven images of himself, the different personas corresponding to the Prince's appearances in the videos..."

p.644: (Comic Books section, top left hand column):
"Man fans had subscribed for more issues". (Many).

p.645: "As Tammuz rips the last chain of gold from Gilamesh's skeleton, a laser beam is fired..." (Gilgamesh).

p.646: (Other Books And Magazines) :
Neo Manifesto - Audentes Fortuna Juvat:
"Photographer Gassian is one of France's premium rock photographer" (photographers).

p.648: (Tour Programmes):
"The tour book for the 2003 tour (planned to continued in 2004) (continue).

p.651: (Books):
PrinceAuthor: No author is credited:
" A similar book covering the years 1986 to 1992 or so, when Prince's reached peak popularity in Europe, would be very interesting." (Prince)

"There would likely there have been copyright issues granting permission to use the clippings".

p.655: Antes Conocido Como Prince:
"...including a description of the interview that appeared in Spanish newspaper El Pais in 1993 The discography is not updated..." (...in 1993. The...)

p.656: The Lyrics Of Prince Rogers Nelson/
Author: Claude L. McInnis Jr.
"The back cover text gushes that McInnis' book is a "worthy to be considered an excellent and profound academic dissertation", which is an exaggeration".

p.656: Purple Reign - The Artist Formerly Known As Prince
Author: Liz Jones
"This is the US hardback edition of Slave To The Rhythm. By the way, who came up with the idea to revise the title of the book? "Purple" reign may have worked in 1984, but it is fairly stupid in 1998."
("Purple Reign")


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[This message was edited Fri Jul 30 12:11:50 2004 by giotto]