jn2 said:

Well, many of us don't have a Wendy and Lisa fetish, so it isn't that big of a deal to us. If Prince did a song with Brown Mark, or Bobby Z, I doubt people would be as excited. It is great that you and others are so happy about this, but it means little to most fans.

TonyC said:

I think that is totally off the mark. I think it means little to some fans and most fans are very happy to hear this news. If it didn't mean so much to so many, why so many posts and so many threads?? Were there this many when Sheila E came back? Or Eric Leeds??? No, there wasn't.

Exactly! Thank you.

7salles said:

That's not nice.

EverlastingNow said:

Well, I don't know if the big Wendy and Lisa fans are 30% of Prince fans or 45% or what, but W&L are just old band members, and the main reason people care is because they were in the Purple Rain movie (and because they are/were attractive women).

I know some people have these wild fantasies about Wendy and Lisa having a huge influence on Prince and writing half of his songs at the time, but W&L solo stuff shows that they are only marginally talented in that department. If anything, they were diluting Prince's talent and dragging him down during the Parade album. It's no coincidence that when he dumped the Revolution is when he did his greatest album (SOTT).

I like Wendy and Lisa and have all four of their albums, and even saw them in concert once, but I realize that people mainly like them because they were in Purple Rain.

It is kind of sad that an artist like Prince who is usually forward looking seems to be falling back on his old songs and old band members to get people to pay attention to him again. I really hope this isn't the case, and this is an isolated event, but a Revolution reunion would relegate Prince to an oldies act and would be truly pathetic. I hope he doesn't go down that road.

If this is just an isolated event of him running into Wendy at a studio and jamming with her, it will be fun and I'm looking forward to watching it, just like it'd be fun to see him jamming with Sonny T or Dr. Fink or anyone other talented ex-band member. Let's just hope he doesn't give up on new music though and walk on the crutches of his 80s hits.



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[This message was edited Fri Feb 13 21:37:33 PST 2004 by TonyC]

Yo', some of you are just plain negative! Wendy and Lisa are the fucking bomb! No man is an island, including Prince. The hits we all love have contributions by the girls. Lets be happy for once, there is too much negativity out there. Shit, Bush is nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize, thats something to be angry about, not Prince and Wendy singing together.

ok, if you say so,now what contributions did they have on their own albums. Give me a freakin break. And don't even compare Sheila E and Eric leads musically to Wendy ans Lisa.Sheila and Eric are the bomb and any one who is into music will tell you the same. Tony you are exactly correct.

TonyC said:

Okay, you make it sound like Prince has shelved the oldies in favor of this blazing new direction of music. Let's look at the tours since the end of the Revolution; Sign, Lovesexy, Nude, D and P, Act 1, Act 2, Gold, Love 4 1 Another, Jam of the Year, Hit and Run and One Night Alone. A big percent of these tours were the oldies tours so it's not like he stopped playing the old stuff in favor of his new sound. "W&L solo stuff shows that they are only marginally talented in that department" Are you kidding?? You may not like the albums but that doesn't mean that they're less talented than they are. The work the did with Seal, Neil Finn and many others only reaffirms that Wendy and Lisa can get an artist to dig deeper than they're used to digging. It is true that most people only know them for Purple Rain, but the biggest checks that Prince has ever cashed is for the same reason. So it's not like working with the Wendy and Lisa would affect him in any negative way, if anything it may get them all to grow some. Because I'm sure after walking all these years on the crutches of his 80's hits must be tiring.

By the way Brookly, You don't know what Prince songs we all love, so give me a break. Purple Rain was very successful commercially, but that doesn't mean that this was the album that we all liked the most. So kill that theary.

You know what? All the negative Nancy's should have a vicodin ,a glass of wine and chill out! Or, f@ck it, have a Klonopin and go to sleep during the show.

Bull said:

You totally missed the point. TonyC made it seem like no one cared, but that was true there wouldn't be all these posts. No need to school me on Sheila E and Eric Leeds I'm very well aware of their talent and that's why I own all of their music as well. So let's let all these nice folks get back to enjoying their great news shall we?

I don't agree with you , why does that make me negative? As I said eariler.I like Wendy and Lisa a great deal, I own all of their music. I just think that people are getting a little carried away with their influence on Prince, If at all they had an influence on him. Just because I feel that way doesn't mean that I wouldn't pay to see them perform again. Just my opionion.

Bull said:

And then we agree to disagree, you think they are overrated in their influence of Prince's music, and I think they're grossly underrated which is also an opinion..mine. It's all good

Quite frankly, The only former Prince band members that I hope that I never see again are, Tony, Damon Kirk. I think that the names are correct. I hated these 3 since the first time I heard them,and still to this day the nude tour is the one that I don't like. Everlastingnow, I think that we agree on something. Let me write this down in my book,LOL

EverlastingNow said:

I like Wendy and Lisa's albums...yes they are talented. But they are 1/10th as talented as Prince. The best contribution they made to Prince's music was the cool spoken part at the beginning of "Computer Blue". Besides that, they were two fairly attractive girls, which is why Prince hired them to begin with. Yes they have some talent, but not enough to warrant the worship they get from some people, which is really only because they were in Purple Rain.

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TonyC said:

I'm sorry but anyone who thinks that their best contribution to Prince's music was the spoken intro to Computer Blue loses all credibility with me. That's like saying Prince's biggest contribution to music is My Name is Prince. I get the feeling like you're just trying to get my head to split in half with stuff like "fairly attractive girls which is why Prince hired them", no they were hired for their musical abilities. So why don't you just let me get back to my nightly Wendy and Lisa worshiping and you can go...I don't know...go get lost in the genius of Animal Kingdom.
[This message was edited Fri Feb 13 22:38:25 PST 2004 by EverlastingNow]

Dude, true, I don't know which songs we all love and personally Purple Rain isn't one of my favorite cds. One can only think that Prince may have borrowed heavily from some of his old band mates, including Wendy and Lisa, to make his most popular songs. I dig them, and I am happy to hear he will be performing with one of them. Obviously, Prince thinks something of them.. have you heard of the song "In This Bed I Scream" and read to whom its dedicated?

This thread would have been much nicer as a series of 's

TonyC said:

Me, I like them because they are lesbians.

J0eyC0c0 said:

That's because he straight-up bites ideas off of people.

TonyC said:

Methinks you're confusing "talent" with appeal - what's projected on to Prince... rather than cultivated qualities like musical/lyrical skill, etc.



[This message was edited Sat Feb 14 1:24:50 PST 2004 by Mutiny04]

Mutiny04 said:

I find it incredible that so many people here can suggest that Wendy and Lisa are in the same league as Prince as far as talent goes. As I said many times, Wendy and Lisa are talented and I like their solo albums OK. But they are nowhere near as talented as Prince...no shame in that...very few artists are, but it is the obvious truth.

I'm just glad that his current religious beliefs aren't as strident or rigid as I believed they were. They can't be, if he is prepared to take to the stage with a known lesbian. He definitely appears to have relaxed recently.

I got goosebumps when I heard this news. I really, really did.

TonyC said:

if you owned and listened to all of Wendy and Lisa's post-Prince albums, you wouldn't be saying that.

Prince doing a duet with Wendy? Whoever would have thunk it? This is great news that will make Wendy and Lisa fans very happy.

By the way, does anybody know what channel the Tavis Smiley show is on?
[This message was edited Sat Feb 14 8:45:35 PST 2004 by psychodelicide]

Along with Lisa, Wendy was one of the best songwriters Prince ever worked with. Give her props, people! Look at the great Prince songs that came out of those three working together.

Temptation said:

- It´s true. I agree they deserve the credit for making Prince sound so unique in the 80s, but these songs aren´t my fave Prince pieces. Revolution made Prince sound so whitey. One of the reasons he made the Black Album was to prove that he could do something less ´whitey´. I am not racist, you know what I mean (I am latino).
I prefer stuff like ´When doves cry´, ´Darling Nikki´, ´I wanna be your lover´, ´Billy Jack Bitch´, ´Gett Off´, ´Dead on it´ and ´If I was your girlfriend´ or ´SOTT´.

17 Days
Around the World in a Day
Raspberry Beret
Pop Life
Mountains
Sometimes It Snows In April
Power Fantastic
Strange Relationship
Witness
All My Dreams

All songs contrived with HEAVY Wendy and Lisa input. Strange Relationship was recorded in 82, then shelved by Prince. Wendy and Lisa got hold of it and redid it, giving it it's psychedelic sound. Prince grabs it, rerecords his vocals and releases it with no mention of Wendy and Lisa's rewrites.

Power Fantastic was an instrumental song written by the girls called "Carousel". Prince wrote lyrics to it and released it with no songwriting credit to the girls, according to Mr. Eric Leeds.

The music for Mountains and Sometimes It Snows... was written exclusively by the girls...again, no mention.

I won't go through all of the songs, but for anyone to say that Prince was not heavily influenced by his relationship with Wendy, Lisa and Susannah is dead wrong. To say he wouldn't have been as big or whatever is dead wrong as well.

Bottom line is GIVE RESPECT TO THE GIRLS! Everyone from the Revolution has said that they (Prince/Wendy/Lisa) had become a "band within the band." It is absolutely THRILLING that the man is one step closer to getting back on track with them.

And finally, I quote Wendy...

"I gave colors to you you'd never seen..."

I would bet most people who love the Revolution were Prince fans before 1984. I can see how those who didn't go though it first hand and are looking back can see it differently. Check out who accepts the Grammys with Prince for Purple Rain. Keep in mind how old Prince and the members of the Revolution were then. The Revolution had more personnality than most of the NPG bands. So many of those members came and went and hard core fans remember them. Everyone else remembers the Revolution.

VioletBlue said:

- Coincidence or not some the most ´whitey´ Prince songs, borrowing heavily from the Beatles. ´Witness´ is one of the few that don´t fit in there. At least, in the Dream Factory CD, the versions sound a lot like Hendrix.


- I looove this song. One of my fave Prince songs ever and it is a shame it was never included in an official album. Is it true that he only added the lyrics? I heard the story about Carousel, but I thought Prince only stole the piano riff and wrote the intro and the chorus harmonies.


- I always will give respect to them. They are really good and they are responsible for lots of good songs Prince still plays. As I said before, they seemed not to allow Prince to release substandard stuff (the opposite of Kirky J). I am just not thrilled with they getting back. I am very happy with Prince´s new band, and I hope they release a kick ass band album soon (like Gold Experience).
[This message was edited Sat Feb 14 17:32:14 PST 2004 by GustavoRibas]