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Reply #60 posted 03/04/22 6:34pm

SoulAlive

it's a good thing that some of the other bands (Apollonia 6,Mazarati,etc) aren't out there playing shows.The estate would probably come after them too.

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Reply #61 posted 03/04/22 11:00pm

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Why do they have to come up with an agreement with Morris? They don't have to do squat.

Morris doesn't own the name 'The Time'.

Do you know that Morris filed for a copyright 2-3 weeks after P died, for something he didn't even own?

It's amazing that people can't quite seem to understand that Comerica and the court's function is to earn money for the estate to preserve and ensure his legacy. That business of filing for the trademark on 5/5/2016 says a lot to me and none of it is nice. MD knew what the deal was re the name and had known for many years. To say he is being disingenuous about this whole thing wouldn't be a lie. And it's not like he's been left hung out to dry, they just want him to pay for a license, no doubt like others are or will also be doing. I've always liked MD and saw his numerous posts on FB about Prince for a long time after Prince passed. This mess makes me see him differently now.

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Reply #62 posted 03/04/22 11:03pm

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Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

Why do they have to come up with an agreement with Morris? They don't have to do squat.

Morris doesn't own the name 'The Time'.

Do you know that Morris filed for a copyright 2-3 weeks after P died, for something he didn't even own?

It's amazing that people can't quite seem to understand that Comerica and the court's function is to earn money for the estate to preserve and ensure his legacy. That business of filing for the trademark on 5/5/2016 says a lot to me and none of it is nice. MD knew what the deal was re the name and had known for many years. To say he is being disingenuous about this whole thing wouldn't be a lie. And it's not like he's been left hung out to dry, they just want him to pay for a license, no doubt like others are or will also be doing. I've always liked MD and saw his numerous posts on FB about Prince for a long time after Prince passed. This mess makes me see him differently now.


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A claim can't be a chess-piece in further negotiations?

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Reply #63 posted 03/05/22 5:10am

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If this is really how Morris paints it, I am very disappointed with The Estate. Shamefull! sad

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Reply #64 posted 03/05/22 5:25am

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Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

Why do they have to come up with an agreement with Morris? They don't have to do squat.

Morris doesn't own the name 'The Time'.

Do you know that Morris filed for a copyright 2-3 weeks after P died, for something he didn't even own?

It's amazing that people can't quite seem to understand that Comerica and the court's function is to earn money for the estate to preserve and ensure his legacy. That business of filing for the trademark on 5/5/2016 says a lot to me and none of it is nice. MD knew what the deal was re the name and had known for many years. To say he is being disingenuous about this whole thing wouldn't be a lie. And it's not like he's been left hung out to dry, they just want him to pay for a license, no doubt like others are or will also be doing. I've always liked MD and saw his numerous posts on FB about Prince for a long time after Prince passed. This mess makes me see him differently now.

[Edited 3/4/22 23:01pm]

Yep, I don't know what the big uproar is about except Morris is pissed and thought he'd uproar the masses with 1/2 truths.

The Estate is doing exactly what they are supposed to do, and need to do.

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Reply #65 posted 03/05/22 5:51am

SoulAlive

dualboot said:

It looks like the issue is in the combination with “the time”.


I wonder if it would be easier for Morris to just do shows billed as “Morris Day”.Yeah it would suck for the band members to perform uncredited,but the fans will understand and support them.As far as I know,the estate wouldn’t be able to do anything.He would be using his own name.
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Reply #66 posted 03/05/22 6:07am

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Morris is not an innocent babe in the woods here.

He knows the bidness. He snuck around and tried to trademark The Time days after Prince died.

I also think right before Prince died Morris came to him and wanted to record under the Time name and Prince said they could but they would have to pay him a percentage. THAT"S where the Original7 came from. They could tour under Morris Day and the Time but couldn't record. Now it was from my understanding that he had the option to buy the name from Prince and refused.

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Reply #67 posted 03/05/22 6:32am

SoulAlive

just another reason why it was foolish for Prince not to have a will.He could have clarified everything and prevented what is happening now.
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Reply #68 posted 03/05/22 7:52am

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motherfunka said:

I remember that too and same for the Family

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Reply #69 posted 03/05/22 8:53am

SoulAlive

such a shame that,after months of patiently awaiting for some exciting news from the estate,this fiasco is what we see in the headlines nuts
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Reply #70 posted 03/05/22 9:32am

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Prince Estate Told Morris Day He Could Not Use ‘Time’ Band Name, Docs Show

Day says the Prince estate is trying to "rewrite history" by "taking my name away from me."

By Bill Donahue 03/3/2022



https://www.billboard.com...235039415/



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Reply #71 posted 03/05/22 10:17am

SoulAlive

It’s a messy situation confused

I wish the estate would just leave Morris alone and allow him to use the name.After all,when Prince was alive,he had no problem with that arrangement.The estate should be focusing on other,better ways to generate income and keep Prince’s legacy alive.
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Reply #72 posted 03/05/22 10:56am

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udo said:

Mumio said:

It's amazing that people can't quite seem to understand that Comerica and the court's function is to earn money for the estate to preserve and ensure his legacy. That business of filing for the trademark on 5/5/2016 says a lot to me and none of it is nice. MD knew what the deal was re the name and had known for many years. To say he is being disingenuous about this whole thing wouldn't be a lie. And it's not like he's been left hung out to dry, they just want him to pay for a license, no doubt like others are or will also be doing. I've always liked MD and saw his numerous posts on FB about Prince for a long time after Prince passed. This mess makes me see him differently now.


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A claim can't be a chess-piece in further negotiations?


The law is not a chess game. Morris signed a contract in 1982 that stated Prince owned all trademarks and images of "The Time". NOW, Morris is whining to the public beause he got caught ttying to steal.

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Reply #73 posted 03/05/22 10:58am

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SoulAlive said:

just another reason why it was foolish for Prince not to have a will.He could have clarified everything and prevented what is happening now.


A will would not distribute legal contracts.
A will would not keep people from fighting.
A will does not stop the estate taxes from being levied.

TRUSTS and new contracts would have done so.

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Reply #74 posted 03/05/22 11:03am

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luv4u said:

Prince Estate Told Morris Day He Could Not Use ‘Time’ Band Name, Docs Show

Day says the Prince estate is trying to "rewrite history" by "taking my name away from me."

By Bill Donahue 03/3/2022



https://www.billboard.com...235039415/



hmmm

Sorry, it's the ASSociates that are always trying to rewrite history.

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Reply #75 posted 03/05/22 11:11am

laytonian

Sorry, sympathizers, but you're letting Morris play on your emotions because he got caught (frankly) in thievery.

IT'S A COLD-BLOODED MOVE to attempt to steal the trademark that Prince owned, just TWO WEEKS AFTER PRINCE DIED. Morris doesn't mention that, does he? He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

Here's the trademark filing:
https://trademarks.justia.com/870/25/morris-day-and-the-87025467.html

NOTICE ALSO: This trademark is an attempt for ONLY Morris' own LLC to own the trademark. Does he "own" the entire band under that/those LLCs? If so, what's the difference between that and Prince owning what was signed in 1982?

NOTHING prevente Morris Day from forming a new band, performing new music along with the old and paying royalties that were due, hiring new and/or old associates and doing his own thing. DID HE? No! He's been a historical fossil for 40 years with that stale "somebody bring me a mirror" act.

I have no sympathies. THIS, on top of his co-authorized book where he complained he was only paid $50,000 for his part in Purple Rain. Yes, the man that had to be dragged out of a drug-addled haze, the man who ouldn't even show up and so Jerome had to do some of his parts. That man is complaining that he was actually paid more than standard for a low-budget film. Morris did not help fund the film (WB and Prince himself funded it). $50,000 in 1984 is worth over $135,000 today.

Sorry. I ramble sometimes.
I'm just PO'd about this.

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Reply #76 posted 03/05/22 11:12am

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funkaholic1972 said:

If this is really how Morris paints it, I am very disappointed with The Estate. Shamefull! sad


You've not read the replies from those of us who've actually learne the truth?
Read page 3 before you have sympathies.

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Reply #77 posted 03/05/22 11:13am

laytonian

PennyPurple said:

luv4u said:

Prince Estate Told Morris Day He Could Not Use ‘Time’ Band Name, Docs Show

Day says the Prince estate is trying to "rewrite history" by "taking my name away from me."

By Bill Donahue 03/3/2022



https://www.billboard.com...235039415/



hmmm

Sorry, it's the ASSociates that are always trying to rewrite history.


Thank you for standing up with the truth.

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Reply #78 posted 03/05/22 11:19am

SoulAlive

laytonian said:

He's been a historical fossil for 40 years with that stale "somebody bring me a mirror" act.


Bullshit.For all of these years,he has been working hard,performing regularly and keeping this music alive.I have seen Morris and the Time in concert many times and it is always a fun,lively show.
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Reply #79 posted 03/05/22 11:22am

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DavidZ777 said:

Morris Day & The Tyme?

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[Edited 3/5/22 11:23am]

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Reply #80 posted 03/05/22 11:54am

SoulAlive

FunkyStrange said:

Bank gotta take their cut from Morris and the guys being on the road while the estate can sit back and collect their percentage simply for 'licensing' the name to them.. so petty

All because Morris didn't tow the company line. This is the current 'estate' so many heap praise upon LOL


pretty much
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Reply #81 posted 03/05/22 3:53pm

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Fuck the estate. Bootleg and pirate any releases they release. Prince was a sorta/kinda conflicted/jealous SOB asshole towards Morris but this is beyond the pale. BAD PR MOVE.

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Reply #82 posted 03/05/22 4:35pm

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homesquid said:

Fuck the estate. Bootleg and pirate any releases they release. Prince was a sorta/kinda conflicted/jealous SOB asshole towards Morris but this is beyond the pale. BAD PR MOVE.

Your just making up fucking excuses to make yourself feel better for stealing.

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Reply #83 posted 03/05/22 5:06pm

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homesquid said:

Fuck the estate. Bootleg and pirate any releases they release. Prince was a sorta/kinda conflicted/jealous SOB asshole towards Morris but this is beyond the pale. BAD PR MOVE.

LMAO. Prince jealous of morris for what? Acting as a character Prince originally created? lol The Time was prince. The character was prince. Vanity and Apollonia 6 was prince. All of them wouldn't be where they are now if it wasn't for prince.

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Reply #84 posted 03/05/22 6:43pm

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Reply #85 posted 03/05/22 6:57pm

SoulAlive

EmmaMcG said:

strawberryletter23 said:

I am not sure what the point is - if it is about money, what do they have to lose by having them make money billed as the band they have always been? It isn't like the ticket sales or new material would take away from any sort of thing from the Estate's pockets on The Time material Prince wrote, right?




Fucking ridiculous. How can the estate claim to be acting in Prince's best interests and then turn around and fuck Morris Day, a long time friend of Prince, over a name he's been using for decades. A name which Prince himself had no problems with.


It makes no sense.
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Reply #86 posted 03/05/22 10:01pm

Mumio

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laytonian said:

Sorry, sympathizers, but you're letting Morris play on your emotions because he got caught (frankly) in thievery.

IT'S A COLD-BLOODED MOVE to attempt to steal the trademark that Prince owned, just TWO WEEKS AFTER PRINCE DIED. Morris doesn't mention that, does he? He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

Here's the trademark filing:
https://trademarks.justia.com/870/25/morris-day-and-the-87025467.html

NOTICE ALSO: This trademark is an attempt for ONLY Morris' own LLC to own the trademark. Does he "own" the entire band under that/those LLCs? If so, what's the difference between that and Prince owning what was signed in 1982?

NOTHING prevente Morris Day from forming a new band, performing new music along with the old and paying royalties that were due, hiring new and/or old associates and doing his own thing. DID HE? No! He's been a historical fossil for 40 years with that stale "somebody bring me a mirror" act.

I have no sympathies. THIS, on top of his co-authorized book where he complained he was only paid $50,000 for his part in Purple Rain. Yes, the man that had to be dragged out of a drug-addled haze, the man who ouldn't even show up and so Jerome had to do some of his parts. That man is complaining that he was actually paid more than standard for a low-budget film. Morris did not help fund the film (WB and Prince himself funded it). $50,000 in 1984 is worth over $135,000 today.

Sorry. I ramble sometimes.
I'm just PO'd about this.

Same here! And it's disgusting to see that so many of Prince's so-called fans are turning their backs on him given what MD has done re the trademark, not to mention only putting out half of what the real beef is. MD knew for decades that trademark wasn't his and would always be owned by Prince.



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Reply #87 posted 03/05/22 10:27pm

luv4u

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‘Do The Right Thing Here’: Primary Wave Supports Morris Day in Prince Estate Feud


The company, which will soon own half of Prince's estate, says Morris Day should be allowed to keep using "The Time."

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Reply #88 posted 03/05/22 10:35pm

SoulAlive

luv4u said:

‘Do The Right Thing Here’: Primary Wave Supports Morris Day in Prince Estate Feud


The company, which will soon own half of Prince's estate, says Morris Day should be allowed to keep using "The Time."

hmmm so it seems that Comerica are the bad guys here.In the end,I bet that Morris will be able to continue using the name.This is alot of bad publicity that I'm sure they don't want.

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Reply #89 posted 03/06/22 8:40am

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And Primary Wave isn't in control. lol

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