Vashtix said:

morningsong said:

malbena said:

laurarichardson said:

GaryMF said:

Yes I'm done as well because you just proved your limits in cognition.

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you just showed you don't understand the concept of things "NOT BEING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE".

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i.e. 1) Prince DID write WA about Vanity

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2) Lisa said they were referring to Susannah and Wendy WHEN they SANG IT

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Since you don't understand that both these things can be true at the same time and neither negates the other, you clearly cannot have rational arguments.

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Good evening.

That is not what she is saying from the Star Tribune.

http://www.startribune.com/revolution-keyboardist-shares-untold-stories-from-prince-s-soon-to-be-reissued-purple-rain/428738003/

1) Who knew they were famous for their flat asses? WTF

2) Was Prince writing about his own butt ( because if you listen to the song that is not the case)

3) She is saying the song is about Susannah. Jill is saying the song was written before Susan came along for Vanitiy. She saw Prince give the song to Vanity.

4) I honestly think Lisa does not have the foggiest idea who the song was about and is really just a goof ball.

I think the song was about Vanity and he just asked Lisa to sing on it and this is no different than " The Beautiful Ones" What she is saying is simpley not true.

“Wonderful Ass”

“Wendy and her twin sister, Susannah, are pretty famous for having nice butts. And Prince did have one of the world’s cutest butts. Prince was dating Susannah, and I was with Wendy. It was us being goofy about our girlfriends. I sang co-lead with Prince. It was a happy-go-lucky time.”

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Let it go.

She was asked to talk about her memories of recording the song.
What she said was true, and did not negate the Vanity connection.

OldFriends4Sale said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

That is not what she is saying from the Star Tribune.

http://www.startribune.com/revolution-keyboardist-shares-untold-stories-from-prince-s-soon-to-be-reissued-purple-rain/428738003/

1) Who knew they were famous for their flat asses? WTF

2) Was Prince writing about his own butt ( because if you listen to the song that is not the case)

3) She is saying the song is about Susannah. Jill is saying the song was written before Susan came along for Vanitiy. She saw Prince give the song to Vanity.

4) I honestly think Lisa does not have the foggiest idea who the song was about and is really just a goof ball.

I think the song was about Vanity and he just asked Lisa to sing on it and this is no different than " The Beautiful Ones" What she is saying is simpley not true.

“Wonderful Ass”

“Wendy and her twin sister, Susannah, are pretty famous for having nice butts. And Prince did have one of the world’s cutest butts. Prince was dating Susannah, and I was with Wendy. It was us being goofy about our girlfriends. I sang co-lead with Prince. It was a happy-go-lucky time.”

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Let it go.

She was asked to talk about her memories of recording the song.
What she said was true, and did not negate the Vanity connection.

This is the usual response when it comes to pointing out the nonsense with W&L

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Let it go.

She was asked to talk about her memories of recording the song.
What she said was true, and did not negate the Vanity connection.

This is the usual response when it comes to pointing out the nonsense with W&L

no it is your down the street around the block over the hill avoidance

purplefam99 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Let it go.

She was asked to talk about her memories of recording the song.
What she said was true, and did not negate the Vanity connection.

Could be that he wrote it about Vanity but when he sang it with lisa they were dating the sisters and started joking around about butts and having fun and he never bothered to out and out correct her and say " lisa I'm having fun with you right now, but I need you to know that when I actually wrote this song it was for vanity, ok now let's go back joking and singing." your both likely correct. Good morning!

That is what I and a few others have been saying for the longest.

A song has a way of evolving.

dual inspirations in Prince's music are not uncommon.

ie When Doves Cry (Susan Moonsie, real life parents, onscreen parents)

OldFriends4Sale said:

purplefam99 said:

OldFriends4Sale said: Could be that he wrote it about Vanity but when he sang it with lisa they were dating the sisters and started joking around about butts and having fun and he never bothered to out and out correct her and say " lisa I'm having fun with you right now, but I need you to know that when I actually wrote this song it was for vanity, ok now let's go back joking and singing." your both likely correct. Good morning!

That is what I and a few others have been saying for the longest.

A song has a way of evolving.

dual inspirations in Prince's music are not uncommon.

ie When Doves Cry (Susan Moonsie, real life parents, onscreen parents)

yes he loved mystique, what better way to encourage it.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Let it go.

She was asked to talk about her memories of recording the song.
What she said was true, and did not negate the Vanity connection.

This is the usual response when it comes to pointing out the nonsense with W&L

becasue you have no better knoweldge than anyone else who didn't actually work with Prince. You have zero actual idea what anyone said or didn't say. Like the rest of us.

OldFriends4Sale said:

purplefam99 said:

OldFriends4Sale said: Could be that he wrote it about Vanity but when he sang it with lisa they were dating the sisters and started joking around about butts and having fun and he never bothered to out and out correct her and say " lisa I'm having fun with you right now, but I need you to know that when I actually wrote this song it was for vanity, ok now let's go back joking and singing." your both likely correct. Good morning!

That is what I and a few others have been saying for the longest.

A song has a way of evolving.

dual inspirations in Prince's music are not uncommon.

ie When Doves Cry (Susan Moonsie, real life parents, onscreen parents)

Yes, that is what we've been trying to expain to LauraRichardson, but she seems to have some kind of cognitive issue and can't comprehend it.

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Laura: Here's another example maybe you can understand.

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Let's say yesterday, someone reading this thread, let's call him "Steve", sat down and wrote a song, called "Annoying Stupid Bitch" set to the music of "Irresistable Bitch" (Live Syracuse '85 version) . He composed it and recorded it on his computer using Garage Band.

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A year later, Steve is with his band, in the studio. This woman, Doreen, who works there keeps annoying them, barging in, just bothering the band all day.

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Someone says, "Hey, let's play that song Steve wrote, "Annoying Stupid Bitch."

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They all start playing and singing the song, laughing and joking about a bitch Doreen is. They record it and label it "Annoying Stupid Bitch (2018 version)".

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They release it on iTunes and it becomes a big hit!

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Rolling Stone interviews Steve about the song and he says: "Yeah I wrote it last year about this stupid bitch on Prince.org who woudn't stop jabbering on about something that made no sense, and was annoying everyone on the thread."

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Spin magazine couldn't talk to Steve cuz he was talking to RS, so they interview Lisa and Donald from the band who say "Yeah we were in the studio earlier this year and this bitch Doreen who worked there was bothering us all day so we decided to play this song Steve wrote. We wre laughing and joking about Doreen as we sang it. Everyone knows Doreen is a bitch so we thought it would be funny."

See...... 2 things can be true at the same time!

GaryMF said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That is what I and a few others have been saying for the longest.

A song has a way of evolving.

dual inspirations in Prince's music are not uncommon.

ie When Doves Cry (Susan Moonsie, real life parents, onscreen parents)

Yes, that is what we've been trying to expain to LauraRichardson, but she seems to have some kind of cognitive issue and can't comprehend it.

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Laura: Here's another example maybe you can understand.

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Let's say yesterday, someone reading this thread, let's call him "Steve", sat down and wrote a song, called "Annoying Stupid Bitch" set to the music of "Irresistable Bitch" (Live Syracuse '85 version) . He composed it and recorded it on his computer using Garage Band.

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A year later, Steve is with his band, in the studio. This woman, Doreen, who works there keeps annoying them, barging in, just bothering the band all day.

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Someone says, "Hey, let's play that song Steve wrote, "Annoying Stupid Bitch."

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They all start playing and singing the song, laughing and joking about a bitch Doreen is. They record it and label it "Annoying Stupid Bitch (2018 version)".

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They release it on iTunes and it becomes a big hit!

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Rolling Stone interviews Steve about the song and he says: "Yeah I wrote it last year about this stupid bitch on Prince.org who woudn't stop jabbering on about something that made no sense, and was annoying everyone on the thread."

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Spin magazine couldn't talk to Steve cuz he was talking to RS, so they interview Lisa and Donald from the band who say "Yeah we were in the studio earlier this year and this bitch Doreen who worked there was bothering us all day so we decided to play this song Steve wrote. We wre laughing and joking about Doreen as we sang it. Everyone knows Doreen is a bitch so we thought it would be funny."

See...... 2 things can be true at the same time!

Sure.But that is notwas Lisa is saying. She said in a recent interview that Wonderful Ass was WRITTEN ABOUT Susannah. Not inspired by during a re-recording. Lisa was wrong. Maybe she forgot, maybe she didn't know the real story behind the song.

yeah right.. Prince making a song called wonderful ass about 2 sisters that had no ass definition whatsoever

paulludvig said:

Sure.But that is notwas Lisa is saying. She said in a recent interview that Wonderful Ass was WRITTEN ABOUT Susannah. Not inspired by during a re-recording. Lisa was wrong. Maybe she forgot, maybe she didn't know the real story behind the song.

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You are INCORRECT. That is not what she said in the interview that has already been posted here. .

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FROM THE ARTICLE:

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“Wonderful Ass”

“Wendy and her twin sister, Susannah, are pretty famous for having nice butts. And Prince did have one of the world’s cutest butts. Prince was dating Susannah, and I was with Wendy. It was us being goofy about our girlfriends. I sang co-lead with Prince. It was a happy-go-lucky time.”

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http://www.startribune.com/revolution-keyboardist-shares-untold-stories-from-prince-s-soon-to-be-reissued-purple-rain/428738003/

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If you have another quote that supports what YOU said, please provide.

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Thewooh said:

GaryMF said:

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You are INCORRECT. That is not what she said in the interview that has already been posted here. .

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FROM THE ARTICLE:

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“Wonderful Ass”

“Wendy and her twin sister, Susannah, are pretty famous for having nice butts. And Prince did have one of the world’s cutest butts. Prince was dating Susannah, and I was with Wendy. It was us being goofy about our girlfriends. I sang co-lead with Prince. It was a happy-go-lucky time.”

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http://www.startribune.com/revolution-keyboardist-shares-untold-stories-from-prince-s-soon-to-be-reissued-purple-rain/428738003/

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If you have another quote that supports what YOU said, please provide.

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Here you go: "His music could be very simple but so powerful and I think [‘Wonderful Ass’] was one of the songs the was like that. Even though it was a kind of lighter subject matter, it’s just such a precious little gem of music. Do you know who it was written about? Yes of course, it was written about Wendy and Susannah. They were twins [Susannah was in a relationship with Prince at the time]. It was about Wendy and Susannah’s wonderful ass."

Source please?

GaryMF said:

Vashtix said:

All songs during that era was written for Susannah per Wendy, Lisa and Susannah just because Prince dated, sexed, lived with Susannah. However, we know he was seeing her and Vanity at the same time. If Prince had not done The Piano and Mic Tours they would still reference Susannah to certain songs. It is kind if hard to argue with 2015/2016 Prince.

He was seeing more then Susannah and Vanity at that same time.

PennyPurple said:

Vashtix said:

All songs during that era was written for Susannah per Wendy, Lisa and Susannah just because Prince dated, sexed, lived with Susannah. However, we know he was seeing her and Vanity at the same time. If Prince had not done The Piano and Mic Tours they would still reference Susannah to certain songs. It is kind if hard to argue with 2015/2016 Prince.

He was seeing more then Susannah and Vanity at that same time.

Yep; he was but they always act like he was dating Susannah ; they conveniently forget to mention the others. I am pointing out the relationship is not as they present it. She was not the lone woman he could be inpired by-

Vashtix said:

PennyPurple said:

He was seeing more then Susannah and Vanity at that same time.

Yep; he was but they always act like he was dating Susannah ; they conveniently forget to mention the others. I am pointing out the relationship is not as they present it. She was not the lone woman he could be inpired by-

That's true.

Thewooh said:

GaryMF said:

Source please?

Here you go again 😊 https://thespinoff.co.nz/...ces-vault/

Thank you!

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OK I stand corrected. She did say in that interview it was written about Susannah. In the other interview she said they SANG it about Susannah.

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I can admit when I am incorrect. Thank you.

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Still, going back to the original topic of this thread, Jill said that PP Staff banner her and A6. Not the REv. She said the Rev just asked to keep her away.

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So again, the 2 are not mutually exclusive.

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Thanks for the link! (for real)

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PS I don't think Lisa has any negative intent. That might be what she actually believes or more likely, doesn't really remember.

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I remember when I first startred on social media and connected with Jill and Sheila and Eric etc. and I asked one of them some arcane question asbout who did a certain part or what instrument was used etc. and the person I asked was like "who remembers? that was 20 years ago! We dont' really remember all those details" and laughted or something like that.

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Moreover, all these folks saying the Rev is doing some kind of "cash grab" or just being mean spirited. They have gone on record saying they are barely making money on the tour, and just giving opinions or offering to help with the vault is not going to get them major $$s.

I guess the only thing people have to talk about these days are gossip and subjective scenarios regarding Prince, his associates, family, and the estate.

GaryMF said:

Thank you!

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OK I stand corrected. She did say in that interview it was written about Susannah. In the other interview she said they SANG it about Susannah.

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I can admit when I am incorrect. Thank you.

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Still, going back to the original topic of this thread, Jill said that PP Staff banner her and A6. Not the REv. She said the Rev just asked to keep her away.

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So again, the 2 are not mutually exclusive.

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Thanks for the link! (for real)

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PS I don't think Lisa has any negative intent. That might be what she actually believes or more likely, doesn't really remember.

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I remember when I first startred on social media and connected with Jill and Sheila and Eric etc. and I asked one of them some arcane question asbout who did a certain part or what instrument was used etc. and the person I asked was like "who remembers? that was 20 years ago! We dont' really remember all those details" and laughted or something like that.

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Moreover, all these folks saying the Rev is doing some kind of "cash grab" or just being mean spirited. They have gone on record saying they are barely making money on the tour, and just giving opinions or offering to help with the vault is not going to get them major $$s.

So that's all you got? After ripping another poster (Laura) a new asshole, and all you got is, "I stand corrected"?

So that's all you got? After ripping another poster (Laura) a new asshole, and all you got is, "I stand corrected"?

Yup.

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I don't know that I "ripped anyone a new asshole", I just used simple rules of logic and reading comprehnsion and suggested she do the same.

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This other person was kind of enough to provide evidence to back up his/her statement so I stand correted re: the Wonderful Ass thread.

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I still stand by my comments regarding the topic of this thread. As others besides me have pointed out, LR's own posts contradict her speculation. When someone lists a quote vervatim that disproves her original point, I see no reason to pull back.

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And if anyone is "ripping anyone a new one" I would vote for the people tearing into Lisa Coleman and the Melvoins who have had nothing but kinds words to say yet for some reason this seems to upset and rile up others.

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GaryMF said:

Thank you!

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OK I stand corrected. She did say in that interview it was written about Susannah. In the other interview she said they SANG it about Susannah.

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I can admit when I am incorrect. Thank you.

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Still, going back to the original topic of this thread, Jill said that PP Staff banner her and A6. Not the REv. She said the Rev just asked to keep her away.

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So again, the 2 are not mutually exclusive.

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Thanks for the link! (for real)

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PS I don't think Lisa has any negative intent. That might be what she actually believes or more likely, doesn't really remember.

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I remember when I first startred on social media and connected with Jill and Sheila and Eric etc. and I asked one of them some arcane question asbout who did a certain part or what instrument was used etc. and the person I asked was like "who remembers? that was 20 years ago! We dont' really remember all those details" and laughted or something like that.

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Moreover, all these folks saying the Rev is doing some kind of "cash grab" or just being mean spirited. They have gone on record saying they are barely making money on the tour, and just giving opinions or offering to help with the vault is not going to get them major $$s.

So that's all you got? After ripping another poster (Laura) a new asshole, and all you got is, "I stand corrected"?

Vashtix said:

PennyPurple said:

He was seeing more then Susannah and Vanity at that same time.

Yep; he was but they always act like he was dating Susannah ; they conveniently forget to mention the others. I am pointing out the relationship is not as they present it. She was not the lone woman he could be inpired by-

Well it isn't true that people 'conveniently' forget the others.
I don't think anyone fan or band don't know that Prince was seeing other people.

But Prince only 'acknowledged' certain people.
And that is on Prince.

Any other 'unknown' woman that had sex with Prince, if she is looking for her 5min, should not be suprised if people don't give it much attention.

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The thing is it was only certain songs that any inspiration was given too, not all of them. So there are many other songs about a woman that was never ascribed to Susannah.

purplefam99 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That is what I and a few others have been saying for the longest.

A song has a way of evolving.

dual inspirations in Prince's music are not uncommon.

ie When Doves Cry (Susan Moonsie, real life parents, onscreen parents)

yes he loved mystique, what better way to encourage it.

Yes he did, and I believe it was partially why 'purple culture' was so addictive, and 30+yrs later

It needs to be a college elective course.

CharismaDove said:

yeah right.. Prince making a song called wonderful ass about 2 sisters that had no ass definition whatsoever

He obviously was into it...