crimesofparis said:

Per the article itself, I'm pretty sure that the only story with her in the liner notes isn't the kitchen one. Lisa has the story about them singing on "Baby, I'm a Star." She should have been credited more clearly, but she wasn't credited properly on the original release, either. I'd blame WB for that one.

Jill has said "Fuck WB" on her website so she blames them as well. It feeds into the whitewashing and it is being noticed by the fanbase.

laurarichardson said:

crimesofparis said:

Per the article itself, I'm pretty sure that the only story with her in the liner notes isn't the kitchen one. Lisa has the story about them singing on "Baby, I'm a Star." She should have been credited more clearly, but she wasn't credited properly on the original release, either. I'd blame WB for that one.

Jill has said "Fuck WB" on her website so she blames them as well. It feeds into the whitewashing and it is being noticed by the fanbase.

But hopefully in the future a PR box set of music, included more thurough credits and information

A little talk with Prince is needed

Does she ever stop??

Why is she bringing skin color into it. The article states nothing about skin color.

She is a jealous ex-lover who wants credit. When was the last time she saw Prince, other then Vanity's funeral?

OUt of the entire article, this is all it has to say about JJ.

Fascinating stuff, but oddly Jill Jones was left out of the vocal credits and only mentioned in the liner notes as present in Prince’s kitchen. Despite clearly hearing Jill’s voice on a few tracks we guess she was around making pancakes or checking the Dorito inventory or something.

Thewooh said:

I'm glad she continues to speak up.

I just hope(d) hope she would just communicate privately and legally.
All those fans who are anti-this group anti-that group whooping and hollering cannot do anything for her

OldFriends4Sale said:

Thewooh said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I just hope(d) hope she would just communicate privately and legally.
All those fans who are anti-this group anti-that group whooping and hollering cannot do anything for her

Nah. She should make it public, to balance public statements made by other associates.

Doesn't help her brand
Fans who want her to 'go in' are thinking selfishly

there are a few too many 'fans' who flock to certain people because they like to

see them angry or riled up. That is not love. Encouraging that is not love and it is not healthy for the soul mind or body.
I used to see people do that to Cat, right before she got sick.

I does help on the business side

Butterscotch said:

I want to like Lisa, I want to like Wendy, I want to like Mayte, I want to like all of P's associates but some of these people make it very hard. Credit needs to be properly given to those who contributed to any part of his personal or professional life, whether the other person likes it or not. Throwing people under the bus to make one look more important or better is childish and all of this is coming from people who are middle age.

I believe all of them are still in a weird grieving stage.
I'm not too hard on any of them, except for Kirk right now.

People should reach out to each other intimately, not cyberly(can that be a word)
I still think it's only been 1 year and 4 months and people are still caught up in the

swirl of everything good and bad of his death.

Butterscotch said:

I want to like Lisa, I want to like Wendy, I want to like Mayte, I want to like all of P's associates but some of these people make it very hard. Credit needs to be properly given to those who contributed to any part of his personal or professional life, whether the other person likes it or not. Throwing people under the bus to make one look more important or better is childish and all of this is coming from people who are middle age.

It doesn't matter whether fans choose to "like" them or not. They're people just like us. If some of us think it's "complicated" to like people from afar, it means shit in comparison to the complexities of the real relationships each individual shared with him.

Poeples silence can be just as bad as saying lies etc.

scorp84 said:

I've always been a Jill fan but one day she's all chill and zen, and the next she's "going in" and playing the race card. I kinda feel bad for her that she's almost always on the defensive. There are about 50 people on this planet who still care which associated artist co-wrote or sang backup on some obscure unreleased track. A few decades from now there will be zero. Also, it speaks volumes that Wendy, Lisa, Mayte and Sheila continue to take the high road no matter how much crap is slung their way. Others need to get a grip and keep shit in perspective.

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eduJ said:

I've always been a Jill fan but one day she's all chill and zen, and the next she's "going in" and playing the race card. I kinda feel bad for her that she's almost always on the defensive. There are about 50 people on this planet who still care which associated artist co-wrote or sang backup on some obscure unreleased track. A few decades from now there will be zero. Also, it speaks volumes that Wendy, Lisa, Mayte and Sheila continue to take the high road no matter how much crap is slung their way. Others need to get a grip and keep shit in perspective.

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We must remember how many semnal artists got their start playing with Miles Davis. Im not equating associates with all of Miles Davis' former players, but I'm also not denying it. Its funny how people want to say sometimes how some band members were seminal in their part of building his empire with musicianship, ideas etc. But not with some others.

rdhull said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

rdhull said:

Poeples silence can be just as bad as saying lies etc.

Yep! Especially when that person is dead. Speak on jill...speak on!!

Im talking about the ones who are still living.

rdhull said:

I love Jill ones -I wish she would write a book. She was there. Step Off.

eduJ said:

Wendy talked about being bitter in that documentary, she wasn't hiding it and she wasn't saying it's a good thing, she was being honest. Yeah she's bitter about a few things and thankful for others, she's human.

As for Jill Jones, she released one of my favourite ever Prince associate albums and clearly was very close to him for quite a while. She deserves credit in some places where she wasn't credited for sure. Now she's bitter about stuff as well. She's human.

everyone is bitter. hurrah. I'm so glad someone is running a website called the Most Beautiful Lies

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eduJ said:

I've always been a Jill fan but one day she's all chill and zen, and the next she's "going in" and playing the race card. I kinda feel bad for her that she's almost always on the defensive. There are about 50 people on this planet who still care which associated artist co-wrote or sang backup on some obscure unreleased track. A few decades from now there will be zero. Also, it speaks volumes that Wendy, Lisa, Mayte and Sheila continue to take the high road no matter how much crap is slung their way. Others need to get a grip and keep shit in perspective.

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You need to take your race card nonsense somewhere else. Black associates in the Prince world have been getting crap on this board for years. It does not matter if two people in the world care people should be credited for their work and other people should not be telling tall tales ( they introduced him to jazz when he dad was a jazz musician). Condesending as hell thing to say.

If W&L were around then they know Jill's contributions and in no way should they have asked that she be kept away from them at the celebrations which in the end resulted in her not being welcomed at all to the celebration events at Paisley Park. The last time I looked that was Prince's place and his name and music generates the income not the Revolution. They are line steppers and someone has to tell line steppers when they are going to far.

If you have a problem with people speaking up for themselves that tells us more about you then them.

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What the fuck is she bitter about? She was a nobody that Prince put front in center in his band. Who gets a chance like that? It is her fault if she was not smart enought to milk it and run with it.

Damm look at Sheila E or Morris Day. They got their shot and have never stopped working it.

jaawwnn said:

Wendy talked about being bitter in that documentary, she wasn't hiding it and she wasn't saying it's a good thing, she was being honest. Yeah she's bitter about a few things and thankful for others, she's human.

As for Jill Jones, she released one of my favourite ever Prince associate albums and clearly was very close to him for quite a while. Now she's bitter about stuff as well. She deserves credit in some places where she wasn't credited.

everyone is bitter. hurrah. I'm so glad someone is running a website called the Most Beautiful Lies

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yack yack yack Laura, tell it to her not me, I said she was being honest I didn't say she was being reasonable.