rogifan said:

I find it interesting that there seems to be none of this drama around NPG-era associates. Clearly there is more to the story here that we don’t know about. And I don’t trust that any of them are giving us the whole truth. As far as Bruno Mars goes the only photo I saw of him was from the spot in Studio B where VIP ticket purchasers are allowed to have their photo taken. Same thing with Duff McKagen from Guns ‘n’ Roses.

THIS. And people keep feeding them with their energy, not realizing that they are being drawn into business they had no part in and that those in question don't give a shit about them.

rogifan said:

I find it interesting that there seems to be none of this drama around NPG-era associates. Clearly there is more to the story here that we don’t know about. And I don’t trust that any of them are giving us the whole truth. As far as Bruno Mars goes the only photo I saw of him was from the spot in Studio B where VIP ticket purchasers are allowed to have their photo taken. Same thing with Duff McKagen from Guns ‘n’ Roses.

well Kirk Mayte are NPG era associates with the highest level of drama around them.

not to mention Elisa F

Well the "hoopla" must have been huge to get a ban the next day to Morris' show.

There's more to this story....

OldFriends4Sale said:

clairew1975 said:

If they violated the rules of PP, then a ban is understandable. All this drama is a mess. It will explode one day.

rogifan said:

I find it interesting that there seems to be none of this drama around NPG-era associates. Clearly there is more to the story here that we don’t know about. And I don’t trust that any of them are giving us the whole truth. As far as Bruno Mars goes the only photo I saw of him was from the spot in Studio B where VIP ticket purchasers are allowed to have their photo taken. Same thing with Duff McKagen from Guns ‘n’ Roses.

That's why I keep saying how silly it is for people to take sides and engage in these stan wars. Allowing themselves to be triggered by every little tidbit of gossip on social media is pretty juvenile, especially since it's been more than a year now.

Find something else to do and leave poor Bruno out of it already.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

well Kirk Mayte are NPG era associates with the highest level of drama around them.

not to mention Elisa F

Good points

add Judith Hill to that list

laurarichardson said:

clairew1975 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

rogifan said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

well Kirk Mayte are NPG era associates with the highest level of drama around them.

not to mention Elisa F

Well Kirk is a special case of course. But he is touring with NPG and apparently is still involved with Paisley Park so is there really a lot of drama around himb I’m not sure what drama is around Mayte other than some don’t like that she wrote a book. She performed at the BET awards with Sheila and is friendly with Shelby. The only drama (if you can call it that) I’ve seen with Elisa is when she criticized Shelby for the timing of her album release but she quickly walked it back. But like I said I don’t think we know The whole story here. It doesn’t pass the smell test to me.

Agreed.

Technically speaking doesn't Kirk Predate the NPG era? In any case I haven't seen him whining on social media.

I have said the same thing from day one, with the exception of Prince's family all of these people who put themselves out there are fair game, which is why I won't cape for any of them no matter who it is. Prince was never shielded from scrutiny when he put himself out there, so there are no special snowflakes in this situation.

morningsong said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Graceland management lets you take all the photos you want at elvis's place...I totally understand why prince did not want photos taken while he was alive as paisley park was his sanctuary. But i don't see the sense of it now, as it is open to the public, I would think now with social media, paisley park would be getting massive free advertising if all the people that visited posted about it. It's no secret what they have on display so what's the deal? once you open a space up to the public what is the point of the hardcore photo stance?

All I got to say is, where were these folks on April 20,2016 at 3am? In their own house doing exactly what they wanted to do perhaps? All of them. Why are they constantly goading the fanbase into these petty azzed squabbles over stupid stuff? If you check the org even the fanbase was chomping at the bit because instinctually we knew something was wrong and wanted to be there on watch. So. Ask me again about who gets the privilege of not following the simple rules in Prince's final resting place?

Bravo! That is exactly what the fuck it boils down to.

I understand that all of us were caught off guard and reacting to all sorts of provocations but it's been over a year now and all of these instigators need to crawl right back where they were on 4-20-16!

morningsong said:

rogifan said:

babynoz said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

babynoz said:

morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

babynoz said:

That's why I keep saying how silly it is for people to take sides and engage in these stan wars. Allowing themselves to be triggered by every little tidbit of gossip on social media is pretty juvenile, especially since it's been more than a year now.

Find something else to do and leave poor Bruno out of it already.

Then why are you bothering to respond?

Because I have a POV and you are not a moderator. Thanks for proving once again that a stuck pig will squeal though.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

morningsong said:

All I got to say is, where were these folks on April 20,2016 at 3am? In their own house doing exactly what they wanted to do perhaps? All of them. Why are they constantly goading the fanbase into these petty azzed squabbles over stupid stuff? If you check the org even the fanbase was chomping at the bit because instinctually we knew something was wrong and wanted to be there on watch. So. Ask me again about who gets the privilege of not following the simple rules in Prince's final resting place?

My statement was not a comment on the ladies behavior, lots of people have had childish behavior before and after princes death, my comment is simply about the policy of no photos, and not really understanding how that policy benefits paisley park at this point in time...as far as princes final resting place being in the lobby of what is now a tourist attraction people are charged to enter, and can stop and pay their respects (after paying the fee of course) is beyond strange and I am still dumbfounded by this descion. And Yes totally appropriate for his remains to be at paisley but on display...no...his bedroom of limits...his remains yes that is included...and I did not bring this up, you did, but is an example in my opinion of very strange management...

Who cares. It's HIS house and those are the rule in it. Nobody's going to keel over and die because they can't take their own pictures. We already know how he personally felt about random pictures anyway. So build a bridge and get over it. Far more necessary items to deal with.

morningsong said:

rogifan said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

well Kirk Mayte are NPG era associates with the highest level of drama around them.

not to mention Elisa F

Well Kirk is a special case of course. But he is touring with NPG and apparently is still involved with Paisley Park so is there really a lot of drama around himb I’m not sure what drama is around Mayte other than some don’t like that she wrote a book. She performed at the BET awards with Sheila and is friendly with Shelby. The only drama (if you can call it that) I’ve seen with Elisa is when she criticized Shelby for the timing of her album release but she quickly walked it back. But like I said I don’t think we know The whole story here. It doesn’t pass the smell test to me.

probably cause U don't want it to smell.

But it does smell bad.

babynoz said:

laurarichardson said:

babynoz said: Then why are you bothering to respond?

Because I have a POV and you are not a moderator. Thanks for proving once again that a stuck pig will squeal though.

But you are constantly complaining about these topics so why bother to click on them. What is your pov that finds should not comment on the things that are actually going on. This is a message board in case you did not notice.

What part are you missing.

Jill said on her Facebook page that Kirk lied to her. This would mean she spoke to him. You kind of have to know someone to say they lied to your face.

A few people have complained about leaving messages for Prince with a person and not getting a call back. I wonder who was taking the messsages?

The Revolution was gone in 1986 but Jill was dating Prince from 82 on until sometime after Parade came out and so was Susan so what point her you trying to make. Jill said when Prince was engaged to Susan he sent Jill to New York and let her know they would still be seeing each other.

Why would the Revolution have Jill banned from the celebration if all is good? Keep in mind this tidbit is coming from Jill so stop saying something is being manufactured by orgers. No one is making up anything something is going on.

Could be whole love issues, Jill calling them a bunch of Milli Villin's, Jill putting it out there that they are wrong about "Wonderful Ass" and not getting the credit she believes she deserves.

As far as money who does not want more money. They only need to have a say on what they worked on and that is it.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I think a lot of people have went after Kirk.

I don't know much of Jill & Kirks history. I don't think they know each other.
I remember Apollonia talking about how she tried to get to Prince, but didn't think Kirk was getting her messages to him.

I mean the vent last Sept was about Prince and Jills career. the Revolution ws gone in 1986. But Prince & Jills relationship was static into 1990 and then they never spoke again until 2016 when Prince was reaching out to everyone.

Real Talk: Lisa & Wendy posted on their FB page March 2016 in response to someone saying Jills talent was wasted. They said 'I Jill Jones 2! Not wasted though. She still makes music. XO

that isn't the post of someone who cannot stand Jill Jones.

If the issue was who dated Prince then they would not have been cool with Sheila E.

Jill Jones is a married woman.

First of all they have money. Second of all they should have a say on the Vault.

laurarichardson said:

Jill called Kirk a lying ass on her Facebook page after the search warrants were releashed. I do not know what he told her but it obviously was not the truth and it amazes me that know one notices that the police found him uncooperative and not helpful at all but he is a person that can be trusted?

Jill might be the only person who sees him for what he is and knows what he lied to her about.

She has vented about more than just about Prince and we do not know all that she knows.

Real talk I just thank the Melvoins cannot stand her because she was dating Prince the same time that Susannah was as well as Sheila E. The Melvoins need to get over dude was running around on all the women and the Melvoins seemed to be the only ones that cannot let that shit go.

I actually think they think they owned Prince like he was their piece of the rock or bank. If someone told me to renounce my sexuality I would not give them the time of day but these chicks keep coming back. Why do you think that is? $$$$$ They want to have a say on that vault and that would mean money for them.

You are missing the part.

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You don't have to know someone to lie to them.

Jill wasn't in Prince's life from 1990-early 2016 why would she and Kirk know each other. She probably talked to him AD 4.2016 But that doesn't mean she knows him.

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Yes a few people have complained about Kirk and messages.

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Yes, the Revolution was disbanded, so why didn't her career with Prince take off if they were the reason to blame? They weren't. That was stuff between Jill & Prince. Even she said he told her in 88 she had no charisma and some other things. And then he blocked the further release of the next album.

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I said prior to Sept 2016 I doubt there was any particular issue Jill had with the Revolution. The banded together in 2012 to do the First Ave My Purple Heart show. Why no issue then?

Because her response was a hurt response more connected to Prince and a finality. Unfinished business. I wish she had more opportunity to talk with him.

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According to Jills post [I read a copy of it] she said the Revolution asked to not allow any interaction between them. They did not ban her from Paisley Park.
That was something else. Again I'm just going by what I read.

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The members should be a part of the process as they were from 1977-1986

I would expect the same for the protege bands including JJ and the NPG members etc

laurarichardson said:

What part are you missing.

Jill said on her Facebook page that Kirk lied to her. This would mean she spoke to him. You kind of have to know someone to say they lied to your face.

A few people have complained about leaving messages for Prince with a person and not getting a call back. I wonder who was taking the messsages?

The Revolution was gone in 1986 but Jill was dating Prince from 82 on until sometime after Parade came out and so was Susan so what point her you trying to make. Jill said when Prince was engaged to Susan he sent Jill to New York and let her know they would still be seeing each other.

Why would the Revolution have Jill banned from the celebration if all is good? Keep in mind this tidbit is coming from Jill so stop saying something is being manufactured by orgers. No one is making up anything something is going on.

Could be whole love issues, Jill calling them a bunch of Milli Villin's, Jill putting it out there that they are wrong about "Wonderful Ass" and not getting the credit she believes she deserves.

As far as money who does not want more money. They only need to have a say on what they worked on and that is it.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I think a lot of people have went after Kirk.

I don't know much of Jill & Kirks history. I don't think they know each other.
I remember Apollonia talking about how she tried to get to Prince, but didn't think Kirk was getting her messages to him.

I mean the vent last Sept was about Prince and Jills career. the Revolution ws gone in 1986. But Prince & Jills relationship was static into 1990 and then they never spoke again until 2016 when Prince was reaching out to everyone.

Real Talk: Lisa & Wendy posted on their FB page March 2016 in response to someone saying Jills talent was wasted. They said 'I Jill Jones 2! Not wasted though. She still makes music. XO

that isn't the post of someone who cannot stand Jill Jones.

If the issue was who dated Prince then they would not have been cool with Sheila E.

Jill Jones is a married woman.

First of all they have money. Second of all they should have a say on the Vault.

Let me make myself clearer for you. On Jill’s Facebook page, right after the search warrants were unsealed she posted that Kirk lied to her face. Would this not mean that a conversation (which requires more than one person took place between the two) What would her knowing him have do with him lying to her. If he lied, he lied as he certainly lied to the cops so why would he not continue lying.

What does her career taking off must do with her going with him the whole-time Susannah was going with him along with Sheila E and Devin and who know who else. I think the Melvoins particurly Susanannah is still a little salty about the affair it has nothing to do with career matters.

They obviously have issues now. See the post from Jill’s page she was not allowed in Paisley Park for the celebration per the Revolution’s request. She was banned that day by them per her comments.

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Yes it's true. We were banned from Paisley Park. However, I was not present during this time that Apollonia took the photo. I was in fact airborne on my way to Mpls arriving at midnight. 2 hours after this hoopla occurred. Lol. Drama. I was informed the next day that I could not attend any events at Paisley. Me, Apollonia,Susan & Brenda. Do I care? No. Does it make me angry that I was also told that Hucky called a meeting prior to all of this informing our security that the Revolution wanted to make sure that I was kept separated from them during this event at Paisley? Not really it makes me laugh. I had no idea I rattled people as much as I do. Do I care? Not really. They can play the game. But I want to make it clear, I was never in it for the game. I am for real. I don't front. For the record joel weinshanker and shannon Pratt and scott march are behind the ban. Scott, they made him the face of the ban.

OldFriends4Sale said:

You are missing the part.

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You don't have to know someone to lie to them.

Jill wasn't in Prince's life from 1990-early 2016 why would she and Kirk know each other. She probably talked to him AD 4.2016 But that doesn't mean she knows him.

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Yes a few people have complained about Kirk and messages.

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Yes, the Revolution was disbanded, so why didn't her career with Prince take off if they were the reason to blame? They weren't. That was stuff between Jill & Prince. Even she said he told her in 88 she had no charisma and some other things. And then he blocked the further release of the next album.

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I said prior to Sept 2016 I doubt there was any particular issue Jill had with the Revolution. The banded together in 2012 to do the First Ave My Purple Heart show. Why no issue then?

Because her response was a hurt response more connected to Prince and a finality. Unfinished business. I wish she had more opportunity to talk with him.

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According to Jills post [I read a copy of it] she said the Revolution asked to not allow any interaction between them. They did not ban her from Paisley Park.
That was something else. Again I'm just going by what I read.

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The members should be a part of the process as they were from 1977-1986

I would expect the same for the protege bands including JJ and the NPG members etc

laurarichardson said:

What part are you missing.

Jill said on her Facebook page that Kirk lied to her. This would mean she spoke to him. You kind of have to know someone to say they lied to your face.

A few people have complained about leaving messages for Prince with a person and not getting a call back. I wonder who was taking the messsages?

The Revolution was gone in 1986 but Jill was dating Prince from 82 on until sometime after Parade came out and so was Susan so what point her you trying to make. Jill said when Prince was engaged to Susan he sent Jill to New York and let her know they would still be seeing each other.

Why would the Revolution have Jill banned from the celebration if all is good? Keep in mind this tidbit is coming from Jill so stop saying something is being manufactured by orgers. No one is making up anything something is going on.

Could be whole love issues, Jill calling them a bunch of Milli Villin's, Jill putting it out there that they are wrong about "Wonderful Ass" and not getting the credit she believes she deserves.

As far as money who does not want more money. They only need to have a say on what they worked on and that is it.