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Reply #240 posted 04/08/17 7:23am

purplegirl00

LBrent said:

bibrose, I totally get your point.

You don't like the book and are exercizing your right to dislike the book and critique it.

Gotcha.

I just have 2 questions: Why not give Mayte your opinion of the book since she wrote it, and not torture everyone else? Also, When will it be enough?

neutral

[Edited 4/8/17 0:54am]

I admit I don't understand all this devotion for Mayte, but I'm not "tortured" by it. Likewise, why should you or anyone else be by the opposing view? If you don't want to hear it or "enough is enough" for you, then keep scrolling. Bibrose is welcomed to share opinion here and directly to Mayte if so inclined- although I'm sure Mayte has her people reading this forum and already knows. She should also know by now, that when you write a book, you need to be prepared for the wonderful reviews and the critical ones as well.

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Reply #241 posted 04/08/17 7:38am

PennyPurple

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LBrent said:

PennyPurple said:

YUP!

http://www.star-memorabil...ius-slave/

Oh, that guy...I thought you meant JLo's ex-husband.

confused lol

Sorry, I should've spelled Mark with a K.

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Reply #242 posted 04/08/17 7:42am

BillieBalloon

LBrent said:



BillieBalloon said:


LBrent said:



Erm.



I never said anything about oppressing anyone.



What I'm asking is..Ok, you oppose. Now what? You oppose some more. Ok...and you oppose again. Ok. We heard your opposal loud and clear. But we can't do anything about your opposal so now it's simply you opposing, but to what end?



What's your end game?



When will you feel you've opposed enough?



Because you must realize there eventually must come an end. I'm simply enquiring when that will be.



Youre saying opposition is pointless and want to know when it will end? Sometimes people do things not because they have anything to gain but because it's a matter of principle. They do it because they see a wrong and want to correct it. This is NOT about me, or us, its about Prince. Our motives are not selfish, why dont you question the motives of those supporting? Of course people opposing are constantly having to justify themselves. Ill give some justification, PRINCE. Thats it.


So, what I'm hearing you say is that you will continue to torment the folks who didn't write the book in the hopes that it will make the book, what?...vanish?...be pulled off the market?



Because no amount of opposing to those who didn't write it and have no control over it will do that.



S'ok. Eventually, you'll either see that...or tire and take a nap.



Anyway, good luck with all of that.




The book is not going to vanish or be pulled off tbe market.
Torment? Torture?

If people are tormented and tortured by what theyre reading on here, they need to log off for a while. Nice classifying the opposition as tormenters and torturers , add it to the ist of haters and trolls. You dont need to resort to comedic hyperbole, im more than willing to listen.



confused

I wont tire over the years and years of music Prince gifted us.
Baby, you're a star.

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Reply #243 posted 04/08/17 7:55am

purplegirl00

BillieBalloon said:

LBrent said:

Actually, she does explain it.

It's explained pretty well.

She signs a document that outlines the both of them annulling their vows. Then the document disappears with Prince. How is this explaining?

Exactly. She said that he "bullied" for hours until 4 a.m. when she finally gave in and she signed the document but she didn't explain it other than saying it was not legally binding. So if she explained well in your book, then I guess LBrent, we don't have the same book lol My impression by how she explained it, was that he wore her down with his antics that she surrendered without possibly knowing what she just "scribbled" her name to.

[Edited 4/8/17 7:58am]

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Reply #244 posted 04/08/17 8:05am

Misslink88

LBrent said:

Misslink88 said:

Great! Can we have your crib notes on it 'cause my take away from that whole thing was there was no explanation. She wrote she didn't read something and that she signed something. That was all the explanation she provided in the book. Then she writes she wrote him a letter saying she knew he didn't love her any more and, less than 60 days later (fastest divorce on record it seems), she got an envelope handed to her from her lawyer.

See? You got it. There ya go.

And it was all right in the book.

BTW, since her lawyer was in NJ, maybe the divorce papers are filed there or in NYsince folks said they couldn't find a record of it in Minnesota.

BTW, as I've pointed out earlier in the thread that got pulled, NY requires 2 years of CONTINUOUS residency to file, so, yeah....I doubt it.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
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Reply #245 posted 04/08/17 8:09am

BillieBalloon

purplegirl00 said:



BillieBalloon said:


LBrent said:



Actually, she does explain it.



It's explained pretty well.



She signs a document that outlines the both of them annulling their vows. Then the document disappears with Prince. How is this explaining?


Exactly. She said that he "bullied" for hours until 4 a.m. when she finally gave in and she signed the document but she didn't explain it other than saying it was not legally binding. So if she explained well in your book, then I guess LBrent, we don't have the same book lol My impression by how she explained it, was that he wore her down with his antics that she surrendered without possibly knowing what she just "scribbled" her name to.

[Edited 4/8/17 7:58am]




She said she signed it without reading it but Prince explained to her it was a document to annull their vows. She agreed by signing it to the anullment of the marriage.

She daid it wasnt legally binding but she also didnt read it. What and who was the document for? Did Prince have his lawyer draw it up? This is the clarification i was talking about. In the morning he hoofed it out of there with the doc in hand.
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Reply #246 posted 04/08/17 8:36am

LOVESYMBOLNUMB
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LBrent said:[quote]

bibrose, I totally get your point.



You don't like the book and are exercizing your right to dislike the book and critique it.



Gotcha.



I just have 2 questions: Why not give Mayte your opinion of the book since she wrote it, and not torture everyone else? Also, When will it be enough?



neutral

[Edited 4/8/17 0:54am]

[/quote


So dramatic, everyone else is not "tortured" by differing view points. If this is truly tortuous for you then why are you here 24/7? And the people that don't like the book have pretty much stayed off the book club thread, so you can discuss the book with like minded people, and not have to worry that another person might have different thoughts than you. Just trying to help...
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Reply #247 posted 04/08/17 9:18am

NotACleverName

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bibrose said:



bibrose said:




NotACleverName said:


Vashtix said: I had initially decided that I was not going to respond to any additional posts but after seeing the bolded comment.....well, here I am. Frankly, this comment is repulsive. To put it mildly. For the life of me, I could not understand where all the false claims, venomous attacks and downright nastiness was coming from. I realized that there are a small faction of Vanity fans that in their, misguided imo, attempts to raise her to a level in Prince's life that she never achieved, they have to disparage those that had a definitive impact on his life. Obviously, vashtix, I vehemently disagree with your opinion. Prince was very much in love with Mayte. They developed a meaningful friendship that then turned into a deep love. He chose her to be his first wife. He chose her to be the Mother to his children. Please take a minute to read the articles in the following link: content://com.sec.android...2943.mhtml A quote from Prince in one of the articles: Like a man in love, he adds: "She really makes my soul feel complete. I feel powerful with her around. And she makes it easier to talk to God." In her book, she shares some letters he wrote to her that are very telling of the tremendous love he had for her. It is what it is. There is simply no point in scrutinizing the parent's decision to let Mayte spend time with Prince in his hotel room discussing their career aspirations. It is a mute point as this happened 30 years ago and resulted in nothing more than planting the seed of a friendship. Aamof, Mayte was less safe in her own home with a trusted family friend. Should the parents be condemned for letting that disgusting man into their home? Please, let it go! There was NEVER an annulment. There is no valid reason to question Mayte's own statements regarding that. In the GENLUX article from Summer 2013, she emphatically denies the annulment story: http://www.genlux.com/mayte-garcia/ The book details events surrounding that entire scenario and after reading it, you understand why it transpired. (In response to bibrose reply #131) It is common knowledge that Prince was a serial dater. If he chose to date three women at the same time after they split up, I guess that was his business. If he dated Desray, Ananda and Mani after they split, who cares? Again, his business. So what if Mayte identified "The Greatest Romance....." (not "song" as you wrote it) video as "down and dirty"? You stated it was "beautiful". You get an opinion but she doesn't? Smdh. YOU don't get to decide how the editing of Mayte's book is handled. Furthermore, Mani WAS one of two principal factor's that contributed to the demise of Prince and Mayte's marriage. Someone opined that Mayte was a footnote in Prince's life. No. She was incredibly relevant. He wrote some of his most lauded work during his time with Mayte. She inspired him tremendously. The footnotes are the women who held his attention for a minute before he got distracted by the music or another woman. Vanity, Carmen, Nona, Robin, Apollonia..... Oh, and TOB.....tsk. I can only smh.


NotACleverName -- who has appointed you the "Grand Poo-Bah" on what people can comment on a book that is in the public domain. Anybody with a modicum of elementary education knows that when a book is published that book will be read and reviewed by the public. You have your opinions and others have their opinions too. Some people are going to like the book and others are not going to like the book. The obvious and glaring omissions, misstatements, misrepresentations in the book and shortcomings of the book will be discussed by people because the book is about a public figure who, though very private while alive, has a wealth of information about him in the public domain. It is extremely naive for you, the author, and her associates and supporters to think that people will not oppose the book or be critical of it. Once the author decided to release the book in the month of Prince's first anniversary at a time that the majority of his fans are still mourning his loss, she should have expected that there would be pushback and a very critical review of the book. You cannot shut people up. This is the USA and one of the fundamental rights that the citizens of this country have is the right of free speech. The author has a right to write her book, and critics have a right to critically review the book, disagree with her, question her motives, and present facts to refute her assertions. If she was not prepared for a critical review of her book, then she should not have written it. She has chosen to write and release a book that is causing the reputation of a beloved public figure to be dragged through the mud. We will critic it! There is nothing that you, the author, her family, associate and friends, can do to shut us up. Perhaps you need to review Literature 101 before you post another condescending response in a blatant effort to shut people up. Thank you!




BTW, please leave Denise Matthews and TOB out of the discussion about Mayte's book. TOB suffered a loss he has not recovered from but is gracious enough to share with us. Denise is at rest and need to be allowed to rest in peace! We all know she rejected the name "Vanity" and reverted to her given name. Please show her some respect!



Regarding the bolded text.....you cannot make a demand for freedom of speech while attempting to silence another who is entitled to that same right. So no, I will post what I please, about who I please, when I please!

Furthermore, you can critique (not critic, btw) the contents of a book without relentlessly bashing the author. You, and your posse, do not seem to grasp that concept.
"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
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Reply #248 posted 04/08/17 9:25am

LOVESYMBOLNUMB
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NotACleverName said:

bibrose said:



bibrose said:




NotACleverName said:


Vashtix said: I had initially decided that I was not going to respond to any additional posts but after seeing the bolded comment.....well, here I am. Frankly, this comment is repulsive. To put it mildly. For the life of me, I could not understand where all the false claims, venomous attacks and downright nastiness was coming from. I realized that there are a small faction of Vanity fans that in their, misguided imo, attempts to raise her to a level in Prince's life that she never achieved, they have to disparage those that had a definitive impact on his life. Obviously, vashtix, I vehemently disagree with your opinion. Prince was very much in love with Mayte. They developed a meaningful friendship that then turned into a deep love. He chose her to be his first wife. He chose her to be the Mother to his children. Please take a minute to read the articles in the following link: content://com.sec.android...2943.mhtml A quote from Prince in one of the articles: Like a man in love, he adds: "She really makes my soul feel complete. I feel powerful with her around. And she makes it easier to talk to God." In her book, she shares some letters he wrote to her that are very telling of the tremendous love he had for her. It is what it is. There is simply no point in scrutinizing the parent's decision to let Mayte spend time with Prince in his hotel room discussing their career aspirations. It is a mute point as this happened 30 years ago and resulted in nothing more than planting the seed of a friendship. Aamof, Mayte was less safe in her own home with a trusted family friend. Should the parents be condemned for letting that disgusting man into their home? Please, let it go! There was NEVER an annulment. There is no valid reason to question Mayte's own statements regarding that. In the GENLUX article from Summer 2013, she emphatically denies the annulment story: http://www.genlux.com/mayte-garcia/ The book details events surrounding that entire scenario and after reading it, you understand why it transpired. (In response to bibrose reply #131) It is common knowledge that Prince was a serial dater. If he chose to date three women at the same time after they split up, I guess that was his business. If he dated Desray, Ananda and Mani after they split, who cares? Again, his business. So what if Mayte identified "The Greatest Romance....." (not "song" as you wrote it) video as "down and dirty"? You stated it was "beautiful". You get an opinion but she doesn't? Smdh. YOU don't get to decide how the editing of Mayte's book is handled. Furthermore, Mani WAS one of two principal factor's that contributed to the demise of Prince and Mayte's marriage. Someone opined that Mayte was a footnote in Prince's life. No. She was incredibly relevant. He wrote some of his most lauded work during his time with Mayte. She inspired him tremendously. The footnotes are the women who held his attention for a minute before he got distracted by the music or another woman. Vanity, Carmen, Nona, Robin, Apollonia..... Oh, and TOB.....tsk. I can only smh.


NotACleverName -- who has appointed you the "Grand Poo-Bah" on what people can comment on a book that is in the public domain. Anybody with a modicum of elementary education knows that when a book is published that book will be read and reviewed by the public. You have your opinions and others have their opinions too. Some people are going to like the book and others are not going to like the book. The obvious and glaring omissions, misstatements, misrepresentations in the book and shortcomings of the book will be discussed by people because the book is about a public figure who, though very private while alive, has a wealth of information about him in the public domain. It is extremely naive for you, the author, and her associates and supporters to think that people will not oppose the book or be critical of it. Once the author decided to release the book in the month of Prince's first anniversary at a time that the majority of his fans are still mourning his loss, she should have expected that there would be pushback and a very critical review of the book. You cannot shut people up. This is the USA and one of the fundamental rights that the citizens of this country have is the right of free speech. The author has a right to write her book, and critics have a right to critically review the book, disagree with her, question her motives, and present facts to refute her assertions. If she was not prepared for a critical review of her book, then she should not have written it. She has chosen to write and release a book that is causing the reputation of a beloved public figure to be dragged through the mud. We will critic it! There is nothing that you, the author, her family, associate and friends, can do to shut us up. Perhaps you need to review Literature 101 before you post another condescending response in a blatant effort to shut people up. Thank you!




BTW, please leave Denise Matthews and TOB out of the discussion about Mayte's book. TOB suffered a loss he has not recovered from but is gracious enough to share with us. Denise is at rest and need to be allowed to rest in peace! We all know she rejected the name "Vanity" and reverted to her given name. Please show her some respect!



Regarding the bolded text.....you cannot make a demand for freedom of speech while attempting to silence another who is entitled to that same right. So no, I will post what I please, about who I please, when I please!

Furthermore, you can critique (not critic, btw) the contents of a book without relentlessly bashing the author. You, and your posse, do not seem to grasp that concept.




Thanks for pointing out the typo, that was helpful. And thanks for helping all that disagree with you to "grasp the concept", obviously We are not as smart as you.
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Reply #249 posted 04/08/17 9:30am

BillieBalloon

NotACleverName said:

bibrose said:



bibrose said:




NotACleverName said:


Vashtix said: I had initially decided that I was not going to respond to any additional posts but after seeing the bolded comment.....well, here I am. Frankly, this comment is repulsive. To put it mildly. For the life of me, I could not understand where all the false claims, venomous attacks and downright nastiness was coming from. I realized that there are a small faction of Vanity fans that in their, misguided imo, attempts to raise her to a level in Prince's life that she never achieved, they have to disparage those that had a definitive impact on his life. Obviously, vashtix, I vehemently disagree with your opinion. Prince was very much in love with Mayte. They developed a meaningful friendship that then turned into a deep love. He chose her to be his first wife. He chose her to be the Mother to his children. Please take a minute to read the articles in the following link: content://com.sec.android...2943.mhtml A quote from Prince in one of the articles: Like a man in love, he adds: "She really makes my soul feel complete. I feel powerful with her around. And she makes it easier to talk to God." In her book, she shares some letters he wrote to her that are very telling of the tremendous love he had for her. It is what it is. There is simply no point in scrutinizing the parent's decision to let Mayte spend time with Prince in his hotel room discussing their career aspirations. It is a mute point as this happened 30 years ago and resulted in nothing more than planting the seed of a friendship. Aamof, Mayte was less safe in her own home with a trusted family friend. Should the parents be condemned for letting that disgusting man into their home? Please, let it go! There was NEVER an annulment. There is no valid reason to question Mayte's own statements regarding that. In the GENLUX article from Summer 2013, she emphatically denies the annulment story: http://www.genlux.com/mayte-garcia/ The book details events surrounding that entire scenario and after reading it, you understand why it transpired. (In response to bibrose reply #131) It is common knowledge that Prince was a serial dater. If he chose to date three women at the same time after they split up, I guess that was his business. If he dated Desray, Ananda and Mani after they split, who cares? Again, his business. So what if Mayte identified "The Greatest Romance....." (not "song" as you wrote it) video as "down and dirty"? You stated it was "beautiful". You get an opinion but she doesn't? Smdh. YOU don't get to decide how the editing of Mayte's book is handled. Furthermore, Mani WAS one of two principal factor's that contributed to the demise of Prince and Mayte's marriage. Someone opined that Mayte was a footnote in Prince's life. No. She was incredibly relevant. He wrote some of his most lauded work during his time with Mayte. She inspired him tremendously. The footnotes are the women who held his attention for a minute before he got distracted by the music or another woman. Vanity, Carmen, Nona, Robin, Apollonia..... Oh, and TOB.....tsk. I can only smh.


NotACleverName -- who has appointed you the "Grand Poo-Bah" on what people can comment on a book that is in the public domain. Anybody with a modicum of elementary education knows that when a book is published that book will be read and reviewed by the public. You have your opinions and others have their opinions too. Some people are going to like the book and others are not going to like the book. The obvious and glaring omissions, misstatements, misrepresentations in the book and shortcomings of the book will be discussed by people because the book is about a public figure who, though very private while alive, has a wealth of information about him in the public domain. It is extremely naive for you, the author, and her associates and supporters to think that people will not oppose the book or be critical of it. Once the author decided to release the book in the month of Prince's first anniversary at a time that the majority of his fans are still mourning his loss, she should have expected that there would be pushback and a very critical review of the book. You cannot shut people up. This is the USA and one of the fundamental rights that the citizens of this country have is the right of free speech. The author has a right to write her book, and critics have a right to critically review the book, disagree with her, question her motives, and present facts to refute her assertions. If she was not prepared for a critical review of her book, then she should not have written it. She has chosen to write and release a book that is causing the reputation of a beloved public figure to be dragged through the mud. We will critic it! There is nothing that you, the author, her family, associate and friends, can do to shut us up. Perhaps you need to review Literature 101 before you post another condescending response in a blatant effort to shut people up. Thank you!




BTW, please leave Denise Matthews and TOB out of the discussion about Mayte's book. TOB suffered a loss he has not recovered from but is gracious enough to share with us. Denise is at rest and need to be allowed to rest in peace! We all know she rejected the name "Vanity" and reverted to her given name. Please show her some respect!



Regarding the bolded text.....you cannot make a demand for freedom of speech while attempting to silence another who is entitled to that same right. So no, I will post what I please, about who I please, when I please!

Furthermore, you can critique (not critic, btw) the contents of a book without relentlessly bashing the author. You, and your posse, do not seem to grasp that concept.



You can also critique a book without relentlessly bashing the critics. Something you and your posse do not seem to grasp either.
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Reply #250 posted 04/08/17 10:04am

purplegirl00

BillieBalloon said:

purplegirl00 said:

Exactly. She said that he "bullied" for hours until 4 a.m. when she finally gave in and she signed the document but she didn't explain it other than saying it was not legally binding. So if she explained well in your book, then I guess LBrent, we don't have the same book lol My impression by how she explained it, was that he wore her down with his antics that she surrendered without possibly knowing what she just "scribbled" her name to.

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She said she signed it without reading it but Prince explained to her it was a document to annull their vows. She agreed by signing it to the anullment of the marriage. She daid it wasnt legally binding but she also didnt read it. What and who was the document for? Did Prince have his lawyer draw it up? This is the clarification i was talking about. In the morning he hoofed it out of there with the doc in hand.

These unanswered questions are correlated to the topic of this thread because if the items she was trying to auction/ sell were in her possession or were transferred to her through a divorce settlement, then she should've been free to do what she wanted to with them. It's obvious that if Prince was suing her, that she was not. Why is the question. Aside of from trademark issues (like LauraRichardson mentioned earlier in this thread), I can't think of any reason other than she wasn’t supposed to have them in the first place. Based on what she said in the book about him bullying her and wearing her down to sign this document without reading it, tells me that she was salty and felt he better not start in with her about selling things after all he'd done to her- hence her comment, “Prince better not mess with me”. I italicized “done to her” because when she starts in her book with the insinuations and misrepresentations of Prince, it’s about what he did to her. There is never any responsibility on her part about her role. Only my opinion.

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Reply #251 posted 04/08/17 10:07am

benni

Mayte had the items because Prince left them in the house in Spain. She made several attempts to get him to pick up his stuff, but he refused and left them there. She noted this in her book, that he had left clothing and other personal items at the house, that she called him several times, sent him letters, etc., to get him to pick up his stuff, and he never did. Therefore, legally, they were hers since she made the attempts and he refused.

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Reply #252 posted 04/08/17 10:24am

laurarichardso
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PennyPurple said:



bibrose said:




Misslink88 said:



From reading her book. She writes she is told to lie about her age from the age of 3, and again until she is 16, so she can dance in clubs. She writes about her parents cheating, and their on/off relationship as some kind of "love story". She writes that she earned $100K but within a few months of getting to PP and WHILE ON HIS PAYROLL, she writes she is broke - she never accounts for where her money went. She writes her father came to speak to P about her "being taken advantage of because he was writing songs about her" (meaning he was making money) and then writes she didn't get "a raise". Later on she claims P had no idea how much she was making ($300 a week, wages from the Revolution days) and that she got herself a raise. She writes she was docked pay because a hairdresser was eating whipped cream and cookies (like a hairdresser's looks are important behind the scenes!) and claims the accountant told her this was the first time something like this happened in his 20 years knowing full well that others from as far back as the Revolution had their pay docked for various reasons. She writes: I want to be clear. In all the years we were together, I never actually saw Prince doing drugs. He didn’t want me to see it…" which, in essence says, I believe he was hiding it from me. She writes that he "bullied" her into signing something that indicated they were annulling their marriage but claims she didn't read it nor gives the details as to whom it was written for. She claims now to have "lost track" of the urn but she could keep track of china, his clothing and a pair of hand-cuffs across continents for 20 years. She writes that P prevented her from having a D&C when there was no fetus only the placenta, instead of getting the procedure done right away as any Doctor would have done since she was bleeding because they are bound by the Hippocratic Oath to do so, she goes to visit her mother for a while. I could go on and on about the FACTS she misrepresents or manipulates to put P in a bad light but it would take a 400 page book to point them all out.




Misslink88 -- you are awesome! You have discussed a lot of the issues I had problems with. Most of the people stanning for Mayte are not very analytical so they don't notice the glaring lies, misstatements and misrepresentations that cannot get past any analytical or intelligent person.





Mayte's Real Age: Remember that Prince asked her if she was really 16 when he first met her. He was aware that it was a showbiz industry practice for a few years to be shaved off the age of child stars. Both MJ and Prince had a couple of years shaved off their age when they were younger. Also, it is not unusual for army brats to follow behind a year or two as their families moved around army bases. Recently her current age was announced as 47, so if she turned 47 in November 2016, then birth year cannot be 1973. A member of LSA did a great write up on Mayte's age using her stated age when she appeared on "That's Incredible" where she was described as the youngest belly dancer. The video has since been taken down from Youtube. Here is what she shared: "Originally Posted by xxxxx I am a year younger than Mayte claims to be. I turned 18 in late 1992. Which made her 19, the age she's said in several interviews to Daily Mail interviews she was when she moved to MN. But here's some proof. In a promo interview for Hollywood Exes, Mayte said her most treasured memory was being on That's Incredible when she was 8. On the May 12, 1980 episode that she appeared on, they introduced her as "8-year old PrincessMayte". There's a clip of this video on the 3 Chains O' Gold film at 8:40. If Mayte's birthday is in November and in May 1980 she was 8, her accurate birth year is 1971, not 1973. Which means if she met him in 1990, she was 19 not 16. And when they became intimate in 1993, she was 21 going on 22, not 19 going on 20. No matter how many times you Google her name."




$100,000 Earned before Joining Prince: In one instance she claims her Father did not properly manage her money. Then she claims she had $100,000 in savings before she met Prince. That is a bit of a stretch for someone who was performing in Middle Eastern and Turkish restaurants in Weisbaden. I have lived in Germany before. There was not such a large population of people of Middle Eastern descent back in the day for her to earn enough just from dancing, and also save that much while as she claims her Father was not properly managing her money. It seems that within short order of joining Prince, she had run down her savings and had to pilfer food from the service carts in hotel corridors to feed herself. Some of the stories just do not make any sense at all!





Second Pregnancy: The second pregnancy was an undeveloped fertilized egg and a placenta. How is that a child? How was it determined to be a girl? Which medical facility or lab would test an undeveloped fertilized egg to determine its sex? Very strange! D&C is a standard procedure undertaken to remove tissue following a miscarriage to prevent infection. Was it even necessary to share such details, and the detailed description of the first child, with the entire world? Does Prince not deserve some modicum of respect and privacy regarding such details of his private life?


It is just very sad when one considers that it is not only people on Prince.org and the USA who are reading this book. The book is being discussed in newspapers and will be read worldwide -- India, China, South America, UK, Australia, Europe, Africa, Canada, Asia etc. This is gratutious sharing of information that we really do not need to know.




I think she knows when she was born. Sheesh. Nit pic, nit pic.


So when she lies it is nitpicking?
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Reply #253 posted 04/08/17 10:25am

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benni said:

Mayte had the items because Prince left them in the house in Spain. She made several attempts to get him to pick up his stuff, but he refused and left them there. She noted this in her book, that he had left clothing and other personal items at the house, that she called him several times, sent him letters, etc., to get him to pick up his stuff, and he never did. Therefore, legally, they were hers since she made the attempts and he refused.


Yes....and additionally, had kept them in climate controlled storage for years. That is a costly monthly expense, I assure you. She did not profit in any way via the divorce. By the time the Marbella house sold, any equity had been exhausted by the general upkeep during the time it was on the market. And, just to further clarify, they (she and Prince) did not close the sale with cash. They put a down payment toward the purchase and had monthly mortgage payments (gleaned from info she provided in the book). Hope that helps to clear up any "what did she do with all the money she got in the divorce?) questions.

Almost forgot.....she also included her pink Mercedes/BMW/can't remember the make, in the sale of the house. As incentive for the buyers.
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Reply #254 posted 04/08/17 11:00am

BillieBalloon

purplegirl00 said:



BillieBalloon said:


purplegirl00 said:



Exactly. She said that he "bullied" for hours until 4 a.m. when she finally gave in and she signed the document but she didn't explain it other than saying it was not legally binding. So if she explained well in your book, then I guess LBrent, we don't have the same book lol My impression by how she explained it, was that he wore her down with his antics that she surrendered without possibly knowing what she just "scribbled" her name to.


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She said she signed it without reading it but Prince explained to her it was a document to annull their vows. She agreed by signing it to the anullment of the marriage. She daid it wasnt legally binding but she also didnt read it. What and who was the document for? Did Prince have his lawyer draw it up? This is the clarification i was talking about. In the morning he hoofed it out of there with the doc in hand.



These unanswered questions are correlated to the topic of this thread because if the items she was trying to auction/ sell were in her possession or were transferred to her through a divorce settlement, then she should've been free to do what she wanted to with them. It's obvious that if Prince was suing her, that she was not. Why is the question. Aside of from trademark issues (like LauraRichardson mentioned earlier in this thread), I can't think of any reason other than she wasn’t supposed to have them in the first place. Based on what she said in the book about him bullying her and wearing her down to sign this document without reading it, tells me that she was salty and felt he better not start in with her about selling things after all he'd done to her- hence her comment, “Prince better not mess with me”. I italicized “done to her” because when she starts in her book with the insinuations and misrepresentations of Prince, it’s about what he did to her. There is never any responsibility on her part about her role. Only my opinion.





The tapes were his, his music so she couldnt sell tbem even if he had left them lying around. There must have been some basis he had the auction pulled.
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Reply #255 posted 04/08/17 11:03am

BillieBalloon

NotACleverName said:

benni said:

Mayte had the items because Prince left them in the house in Spain. She made several attempts to get him to pick up his stuff, but he refused and left them there. She noted this in her book, that he had left clothing and other personal items at the house, that she called him several times, sent him letters, etc., to get him to pick up his stuff, and he never did. Therefore, legally, they were hers since she made the attempts and he refused.


Yes....and additionally, had kept them in climate controlled storage for years. That is a costly monthly expense, I assure you. She did not profit in any way via the divorce. By the time the Marbella house sold, any equity had been exhausted by the general upkeep during the time it was on the market. And, just to further clarify, they (she and Prince) did not close the sale with cash. They put a down payment toward the purchase and had monthly mortgage payments (gleaned from info she provided in the book). Hope that helps to clear up any "what did she do with all the money she got in the divorce?) questions.

Almost forgot.....she also included her pink Mercedes/BMW/can't remember the make, in the sale of the house. As incentive for the buyers.



It was a Pink BMW Prince had given her as a wedding gift.
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Reply #256 posted 04/08/17 11:50am

purplegirl00

BillieBalloon said:

purplegirl00 said:

These unanswered questions are correlated to the topic of this thread because if the items she was trying to auction/ sell were in her possession or were transferred to her through a divorce settlement, then she should've been free to do what she wanted to with them. It's obvious that if Prince was suing her, that she was not. Why is the question. Aside of from trademark issues (like LauraRichardson mentioned earlier in this thread), I can't think of any reason other than she wasn’t supposed to have them in the first place. Based on what she said in the book about him bullying her and wearing her down to sign this document without reading it, tells me that she was salty and felt he better not start in with her about selling things after all he'd done to her- hence her comment, “Prince better not mess with me”. I italicized “done to her” because when she starts in her book with the insinuations and misrepresentations of Prince, it’s about what he did to her. There is never any responsibility on her part about her role. Only my opinion.

The tapes were his, his music so she couldnt sell tbem even if he had left them lying around. There must have been some basis he had the auction pulled.

This I understand- his music and trademark items were not for her to sell. So if that's what she was was trying to do, then it makes sense for him to have sued her, taking them down.

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Reply #257 posted 04/08/17 12:01pm

Misslink88

NotACleverName said:

benni said:

Mayte had the items because Prince left them in the house in Spain. She made several attempts to get him to pick up his stuff, but he refused and left them there. She noted this in her book, that he had left clothing and other personal items at the house, that she called him several times, sent him letters, etc., to get him to pick up his stuff, and he never did. Therefore, legally, they were hers since she made the attempts and he refused.

Yes....and additionally, had kept them in climate controlled storage for years. That is a costly monthly expense, I assure you. She did not profit in any way via the divorce. By the time the Marbella house sold, any equity had been exhausted by the general upkeep during the time it was on the market. And, just to further clarify, they (she and Prince) did not close the sale with cash. They put a down payment toward the purchase and had monthly mortgage payments (gleaned from info she provided in the book). Hope that helps to clear up any "what did she do with all the money she got in the divorce?) questions. Almost forgot.....she also included her pink Mercedes/BMW/can't remember the make, in the sale of the house. As incentive for the buyers.

She wrote she got the house and contents in Spain. I'm assuming he had clothing there when he did visit. I am surprised, however, that she didn't just pack up all his stuff and ship it to MN after he didn't get back to her, especially when she was engaged to Tommy Lee, instead of continuing to pay the "costly monthly expense" for 17 years. I also remember reading, when the Marbella house was listed again in 2006, that the Pink MINI had been included in the purchase price in 2004.

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Reply #258 posted 04/08/17 12:24pm

Vashtix

purplegirl00 said:

LBrent said:

bibrose, I totally get your point.

You don't like the book and are exercizing your right to dislike the book and critique it.

Gotcha.

I just have 2 questions: Why not give Mayte your opinion of the book since she wrote it, and not torture everyone else? Also, When will it be enough?

neutral

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I admit I don't understand all this devotion for Mayte, but I'm not "tortured" by it. Likewise, why should you or anyone else be by the opposing view? If you don't want to hear it or "enough is enough" for you, then keep scrolling. Bibrose is welcomed to share opinion here and directly to Mayte if so inclined- although I'm sure Mayte has her people reading this forum and already knows. She should also know by now, that when you write a book, you need to be prepared for the wonderful reviews and the critical ones as well.

Exactly no matter who if you put yourself out there by writing a book, going on a reality TV show etc. you are welcoming the public to discuss you good and bad. Interviewers should be able to ask questions about the guardianship, her age and the annullment.

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Reply #259 posted 04/08/17 12:27pm

Vashtix

NotACleverName said:

bibrose said:

BTW, please leave Denise Matthews and TOB out of the discussion about Mayte's book. TOB suffered a loss he has not recovered from but is gracious enough to share with us. Denise is at rest and need to be allowed to rest in peace! We all know she rejected the name "Vanity" and reverted to her given name. Please show her some respect!

Regarding the bolded text.....you cannot make a demand for freedom of speech while attempting to silence another who is entitled to that same right. So no, I will post what I please, about who I please, when I please! Furthermore, you can critique (not critic, btw) the contents of a book without relentlessly bashing the author. You, and your posse, do not seem to grasp that concept.

This book is about the author. To discuss the book you have to discuss M1 it is about her life and times.

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Reply #260 posted 04/08/17 12:34pm

Vashtix

BillieBalloon said:

purplegirl00 said:

These unanswered questions are correlated to the topic of this thread because if the items she was trying to auction/ sell were in her possession or were transferred to her through a divorce settlement, then she should've been free to do what she wanted to with them. It's obvious that if Prince was suing her, that she was not. Why is the question. Aside of from trademark issues (like LauraRichardson mentioned earlier in this thread), I can't think of any reason other than she wasn’t supposed to have them in the first place. Based on what she said in the book about him bullying her and wearing her down to sign this document without reading it, tells me that she was salty and felt he better not start in with her about selling things after all he'd done to her- hence her comment, “Prince better not mess with me”. I italicized “done to her” because when she starts in her book with the insinuations and misrepresentations of Prince, it’s about what he did to her. There is never any responsibility on her part about her role. Only my opinion.

The tapes were his, his music so she couldnt sell tbem even if he had left them lying around. There must have been some basis he had the auction pulled.

She may have had even more personal items than just tapes or music maybe letters he received or wrote to others. That makes you wonder who was being contacted about the auction. Clearly she must have things from those contacted . I have to look at the other pages in this thread to see who else was in communication with the aution house. It is very intriguing.

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Reply #261 posted 04/08/17 12:57pm

Misslink88

Vashtix said:

BillieBalloon said:

purplegirl00 said: The tapes were his, his music so she couldnt sell tbem even if he had left them lying around. There must have been some basis he had the auction pulled.

She may have had even more personal items than just tapes or music maybe letters he received or wrote to others. That makes you wonder who was being contacted about the auction. Clearly she must have things from those contacted . I have to look at the other pages in this thread to see who else was in communication with the aution house. It is very intriguing.

Here's a couple of auction links, Vashtix.

http://worldofwonder.net/in-march-the-prince-auction-was-a-bust-why-didnt-his-stuff-sell/

http://ca.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2016030930215/mayte-garcia-sells-prince-engagement-ring-auction/

http://www.startribune.com/c-j-slide-over-to-beverly-hills-pawn-for-a-pair-of-prince-s-shoes-or-mayte-s-handcuffs/289374891/

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7262666/prince-auction-demo-tape-guitar-wedding-china

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Reply #262 posted 04/08/17 1:18pm

purplegirl00

Vashtix said:

purplegirl00 said:

I admit I don't understand all this devotion for Mayte, but I'm not "tortured" by it. Likewise, why should you or anyone else be by the opposing view? If you don't want to hear it or "enough is enough" for you, then keep scrolling. Bibrose is welcomed to share opinion here and directly to Mayte if so inclined- although I'm sure Mayte has her people reading this forum and already knows. She should also know by now, that when you write a book, you need to be prepared for the wonderful reviews and the critical ones as well.

Exactly no matter who if you put yourself out there by writing a book, going on a reality TV show etc. you are welcoming the public to discuss you good and bad. Interviewers should be able to ask questions about the guardianship, her age and the annullment.

That's right. She needs to endure scrutiny as it comes with the territory of writing a book and thrusting herself into the spotlight about Prince.

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Reply #263 posted 04/08/17 1:30pm

Vashtix

Misslink88 said:

Vashtix said:

She may have had even more personal items than just tapes or music maybe letters he received or wrote to others. That makes you wonder who was being contacted about the auction. Clearly she must have things from those contacted . I have to look at the other pages in this thread to see who else was in communication with the aution house. It is very intriguing.

Here's a couple of auction links, Vashtix.

http://worldofwonder.net/in-march-the-prince-auction-was-a-bust-why-didnt-his-stuff-sell/

http://ca.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2016030930215/mayte-garcia-sells-prince-engagement-ring-auction/

http://www.startribune.com/c-j-slide-over-to-beverly-hills-pawn-for-a-pair-of-prince-s-shoes-or-mayte-s-handcuffs/289374891/

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7262666/prince-auction-demo-tape-guitar-wedding-china

Thanks

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Reply #264 posted 04/08/17 1:44pm

LBrent

PennyPurple said:

LBrent said:

Oh, that guy...I thought you meant JLo's ex-husband.

confused lol

Sorry, I should've spelled Mark with a K.

Gurl, yes...I like JLo's Marc Anthony and all, but I was like, Huh? So P's gonna have a NYRican accent and be nearly 50 when the story starts???

lol

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Reply #265 posted 04/08/17 1:59pm

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If she was left with nothing, how the hell did she make the payments at all on a expensive house like that? Its not like she immediately had a career once she and P split. Explain how that works. I would think that either her first couple year's payments were late or she had some money from Prince to pay the payments or that in the divorce Prince paid off the house payments. A person with no money would have to fill for bankruptcy if they were stuck with those kind of payments. (remember she supposedly already depleted her 100,000 dollars.) Her divorce papers need to come out too. Why Manuela's and not hers?

NotACleverName said:

benni said:

Mayte had the items because Prince left them in the house in Spain. She made several attempts to get him to pick up his stuff, but he refused and left them there. She noted this in her book, that he had left clothing and other personal items at the house, that she called him several times, sent him letters, etc., to get him to pick up his stuff, and he never did. Therefore, legally, they were hers since she made the attempts and he refused.

Yes....and additionally, had kept them in climate controlled storage for years. That is a costly monthly expense, I assure you. She did not profit in any way via the divorce. By the time the Marbella house sold, any equity had been exhausted by the general upkeep during the time it was on the market. And, just to further clarify, they (she and Prince) did not close the sale with cash. They put a down payment toward the purchase and had monthly mortgage payments (gleaned from info she provided in the book). Hope that helps to clear up any "what did she do with all the money she got in the divorce?) questions. Almost forgot.....she also included her pink Mercedes/BMW/can't remember the make, in the sale of the house. As incentive for the buyers.

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Reply #266 posted 04/08/17 2:01pm

LBrent

purplegirl00 said:

BillieBalloon said:

LBrent said: She signs a document that outlines the both of them annulling their vows. Then the document disappears with Prince. How is this explaining?

Exactly. She said that he "bullied" for hours until 4 a.m. when she finally gave in and she signed the document but she didn't explain it other than saying it was not legally binding. So if she explained well in your book, then I guess LBrent, we don't have the same book lol My impression by how she explained it, was that he wore her down with his antics that she surrendered without possibly knowing what she just "scribbled" her name to.

[Edited 4/8/17 7:58am]

Yup. So, your copy of the book had an explanation after all.

wink


Misslink88 said:

LBrent said:

See? You got it. There ya go.

And it was all right in the book.

BTW, since her lawyer was in NJ, maybe the divorce papers are filed there or in NYsince folks said they couldn't find a record of it in Minnesota.

BTW, as I've pointed out earlier in the thread that got pulled, NY requires 2 years of CONTINUOUS residency to file, so, yeah....I doubt it.

Ah. I did not know that, despite being a NYer. So, ya were able to get an explanation then.

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Reply #267 posted 04/08/17 2:08pm

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

why are you here 24/7?

LMAO

1) My computers are usually turned on 24/7 and open to my favourite websites, but I'm not watching them 24/7.

2) I'm retired. I was a career Registered Nurse for 34 years.

3) I'm also an insomniac from working night shift all those years so I'm awake most nights.

lol

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Reply #268 posted 04/08/17 3:11pm

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purplerabbithole said:

If she was left with nothing, how the hell did she make the payments at all on a expensive house like that? Its not like she immediately had a career once she and P split. Explain how that works. I would think that either her first couple year's payments were late or she had some money from Prince to pay the payments or that in the divorce Prince paid off the house payments. A person with no money would have to fill for bankruptcy if they were stuck with those kind of payments. (remember she supposedly already depleted her 100,000 dollars.) Her divorce papers need to come out too. Why Manuela's and not hers?



NotACleverName said:


benni said:

Mayte had the items because Prince left them in the house in Spain. She made several attempts to get him to pick up his stuff, but he refused and left them there. She noted this in her book, that he had left clothing and other personal items at the house, that she called him several times, sent him letters, etc., to get him to pick up his stuff, and he never did. Therefore, legally, they were hers since she made the attempts and he refused.



Yes....and additionally, had kept them in climate controlled storage for years. That is a costly monthly expense, I assure you. She did not profit in any way via the divorce. By the time the Marbella house sold, any equity had been exhausted by the general upkeep during the time it was on the market. And, just to further clarify, they (she and Prince) did not close the sale with cash. They put a down payment toward the purchase and had monthly mortgage payments (gleaned from info she provided in the book). Hope that helps to clear up any "what did she do with all the money she got in the divorce?) questions. Almost forgot.....she also included her pink Mercedes/BMW/can't remember the make, in the sale of the house. As incentive for the buyers.


I don't know how the payments were made. She did not elaborate. I guess she figured that was her business. Perhaps something was worked out with the bank. Perhaps Prince paid them. Who knows?

Why in the world do her divorce papers need to be released to the public? You know, I read on one thread where a poster stated that she needs to disclose where the profits from her book sales are going! I mean....c'mon! People need to get out of their feelings for a minute and realize that Prince is gone. He doesn't care! He doesn't need (going to say it again) misguided fans "protecting" him! His legacy is secure. Good heavens....
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Reply #269 posted 04/08/17 3:15pm

NotACleverName

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purplegirl00 said:



LBrent said:

bibrose, I totally get your point.

You don't like the book and are exercizing your right to dislike the book and critique it.

Gotcha.

I just have 2 questions: Why not give Mayte your opinion of the book since she wrote it, and not torture everyone else? Also, When will it be enough?

neutral[Edited 4/8/17 0:54am]



I admit I don't understand all this devotion for Mayte, but I'm not "tortured" by it. Likewise, why should you or anyone else be by the opposing view? If you don't want to hear it or "enough is enough" for you, then keep scrolling. Bibrose is welcomed to share opinion here and directly to Mayte if so inclined- although I'm sure Mayte has her people reading this forum and already knows. She should also know by now, that when you write a book, you need to be prepared for the wonderful reviews and the critical ones as well.


People are not reviewing/critiquing the book.....they are reviewing/critiquing HER. There is a difference.
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