Lovejunky said:

Vashtix said:

NotACleverName said:

Lovejunky said:

Thats a veiled threat.......

With all due respect, Lovejunky, I am shocked you see it that way. I honestly thought you came from a place of love and understanding. I interpret it to mean that he doesn't want to mess with her because A) he sees no point in it because she is in his past B) he is much too busy making music and being in the present to care, etc. Dave did say that Prince specifically did not want Owen's items (tapes, etc) offered at auction and so everything was pulled. This was in the podcast link that was posted on a thread on the org. Guess it's all in how you view statements.

I Try NotACleverName....

but when taken in Context~

We asked Mayte if he was going to sue and she said:

This statement shows a level of anger and aggression

“Prince doesn’t want to mess with me.”

It says..

Prince wont sue me because there would be consequences that he wont like

Im calling it as I see it...

I dont blame her for her hurt anger or dissapointment but that does not alter the threatening tone of her words.

Lovejunky said:

purplegirl00 said:

Lovejunky said:

I Try NotACleverName....

but when taken in Context~

We asked Mayte if he was going to sue and she said:

This statement shows a level of anger and aggression

“Prince doesn’t want to mess with me.”

It says..

Prince wont sue me because there would be consequences that he wont like

Im calling it as I see it...

I dont blame her for her hurt anger or dissapointment but that does not alter the threatening tone of her words.

Sounds aggressive and threatening in tone to me. I'm not understanding why he would sue? Were these pieces not supposed to be in her possession in the first place? Her attempt to sell/auction what is not hers is a justifiable reason to stop it and confiscate it back. However if it's hers and she was ready to part and move on, no one should've had right to stop her or make her keep something she didn't want to have, right? In this case, there should've been cause for celebration. Finally, get rid of all that baggage.

I think there was a dispute over what was really hers to sell. Also remember the symbol is copyrighted.

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said:

NotACleverName said:

purplegirl00 said:

Lovejunky said:

I Try NotACleverName....

but when taken in Context~

We asked Mayte if he was going to sue and she said:

This statement shows a level of anger and aggression

“Prince doesn’t want to mess with me.”

It says..

Prince wont sue me because there would be consequences that he wont like

Im calling it as I see it...

I dont blame her for her hurt anger or dissapointment but that does not alter the threatening tone of her words.

Sounds aggressive and threatening in tone to me. I'm not understanding why he would sue? Were these pieces not supposed to be in her possession in the first place? Her attempt to sell/auction what is not hers is a justifiable reason to stop it and confiscate it back. However if it's hers and she was ready to part and move on, no one should've had right to stop her or make her keep something she didn't want to have, right? In this case, there should've been cause for celebration. Finally, get rid of all that baggage.

With a story like this, if I were Prince I wouldn't want to mess with her.

And the fact that he did anyway with a story like this is just as curious.

Here’s a couple of thoughts…

The book itself could have been the threat. Obviously one version had already been written, and going by the response it clearly could have been used to threaten him.

However, the statement she makes doesn’t seem like blackmail, it is as if she were simply stating an absolute or recognized fact.

Is there a question regarding their divorce?

Was he her legal guardian or did he actually adopt her?

If he adopted her (and since there are no children) the adoption is grounds to allow for an annulment of the marriage. This would mean that the marriage legally never happened. No division of property, no spousal support, and the annulment would not be published.

If he were only a legal guardian and the marriage was annulled on the same grounds of (spouses who are closely related by blood or adoption) can an argument be made that they remained married?

Is there a lawyer in the house?

If friends, family and the estate seem a bit quiet about this book… they might have reason.

Just a thought…

TOB said:

With a story like this, if I were Prince I wouldn't want to mess with her.

And the fact that he did anyway with a story like this is just as curious.

Here’s a couple of thoughts…

The book itself could have been the threat. Obviously one version had already been written, and going by the response it clearly could have been used to threaten him.

However, the statement she makes doesn’t seem like blackmail, it is as if she were simply stating an absolute or recognized fact.

Is there a question regarding their divorce?

Was he her legal guardian or did he actually adopt her?

If he adopted her (and since there are no children) the adoption is grounds to allow for an annulment of the marriage. This would mean that the marriage legally never happened. No division of property, no spousal support, and the annulment would not be published.

If he were only a legal guardian and the marriage was annulled on the same grounds of (spouses who are closely related by blood or adoption) can an argument be made that they remained married?

Is there a lawyer in the house?

If friends, family and the estate seem a bit quiet about this book… they might have reason.

Just a thought…

Interesting, TOB.

The only thing she has said concerning the guardianship thing is that she only recently found out about it.

She has flip-flopped on the annulment situation.

I agree that book had at least one draft completed by Dec 2015 so she may have done some slight amending but I can't believe it was extensive.

The statement about 'not messing with her' does read like a veiled threat or at least provocation on her part.

I don't know if she has elaborated on it or not.Would be intersting to find out.

TOB said:

TOB said:

purplegirl00 said:

Lovejunky said: Sounds aggressive and threatening in tone to me. I'm not understanding why he would sue? Were these pieces not supposed to be in her possession in the first place? Her attempt to sell/auction what is not hers is a justifiable reason to stop it and confiscate it back. However if it's hers and she was ready to part and move on, no one should've had right to stop her or make her keep something she didn't want to have, right? In this case, there should've been cause for celebration. Finally, get rid of all that baggage.

With a story like this, if I were Prince I wouldn't want to mess with her.

And the fact that he did anyway with a story like this is just as curious.

Here’s a couple of thoughts…

The book itself could have been the threat. Obviously one version had already been written, and going by the response it clearly could have been used to threaten him.

However, the statement she makes doesn’t seem like blackmail, it is as if she were simply stating an absolute or recognized fact.

Is there a question regarding their divorce?

Was he her legal guardian or did he actually adopt her?

If he adopted her (and since there are no children) the adoption is grounds to allow for an annulment of the marriage. This would mean that the marriage legally never happened. No division of property, no spousal support, and the annulment would not be published.

If he were only a legal guardian and the marriage was annulled on the same grounds of (spouses who are closely related by blood or adoption) can an argument be made that they remained married?

Is there a lawyer in the house?

If friends, family and the estate seem a bit quiet about this book… they might have reason.

Just a thought…

True.

It’s been said that she was planning to do this book in 2015 but he stopped it. Perhaps the same occurred with this auction but he didn’t go as far to sue? Her comment seemed to only be missing the “or else” part. Definitely provoking action or attention.

If Prince did either – adopted her or became her legal guardian so she could go work for him, I don’t believe he would’ve been able to marry her legally. I’m no lawyer, but that’s my hunch. I’ve heard a copy of the marriage certificate was floating around and it’s been said that it was not signed by either of them. I haven’t seen it myself therefore, I can’t comment on the validity. Maybe someone here who’s seen it can.

Usually you obtain a legal marriage license from the courthouse and then the day you get married, the witnesses and the officiant (if church wedding), all sign and it’s a done deal. Maybe they skipped the legal part? I know the wedding occurred in a church so maybe that's the only the marriage they had- religious/ church and not legal?

If there was a legal marriage between them and they divorced legally- which would’ve needed to occur before he could marry Mani, there doesn’t seem to be a public record available. There is proof of that a divorce occurred between him and Mani though. There is nothing indicating that Mayte received spousal support and even though Prince gave her the house he bought in Spain, it’s not exactly proof that it was done through a legal transfer because of divorce.

Again, I’m no lawyer and perhaps someone has answers to these questions.

You’re right, it’s been quiet on the part of associates and family. There could very well be a reason for it.

laurarichardson said:

TOB said:

With a story like this, if I were Prince I wouldn't want to mess with her.

And the fact that he did anyway with a story like this is just as curious.

Here’s a couple of thoughts…

The book itself could have been the threat. Obviously one version had already been written, and going by the response it clearly could have been used to threaten him.

However, the statement she makes doesn’t seem like blackmail, it is as if she were simply stating an absolute or recognized fact.

Is there a question regarding their divorce?

Was he her legal guardian or did he actually adopt her?

If he adopted her (and since there are no children) the adoption is grounds to allow for an annulment of the marriage. This would mean that the marriage legally never happened. No division of property, no spousal support, and the annulment would not be published.

If he were only a legal guardian and the marriage was annulled on the same grounds of (spouses who are closely related by blood or adoption) can an argument be made that they remained married?

Is there a lawyer in the house?

If friends, family and the estate seem a bit quiet about this book… they might have reason.

Just a thought…

This an interesting theory obviously he was not worried about what she was going to do and we only found out about this legal guardian businees recently and she claims her mom and dad only told her about this recently. I cannot figure out why he would need to be her legal guardian kids go off to college at 17.5 and they do not need a guardians. Mayte also said before she was 18 so now we do not know what is true. I know no one can find anything in the Carver County court files about the divorce and she swears they were divorced.

This. ^ That's one mystery about this whole thing.

purplegirl00 said:

laurarichardson said:

TOB said: This an interesting theory obviously he was not worried about what she was going to do and we only found out about this legal guardian businees recently and she claims her mom and dad only told her about this recently. I cannot figure out why he would need to be her legal guardian kids go off to college at 17.5 and they do not need a guardians. Mayte also said before she was 18 so now we do not know what is true. I know no one can find anything in the Carver County court files about the divorce and she swears they were divorced.

This. ^ That's one mystery about this whole thing.

Yes, this is confusing and getting worse by the minute.

Was the marriage planned for months or was it rushed.

How soon after the marriage was their child born.

.

Why didn’t she know he was her legal guardian back then? That doesn’t make much sense.

What was the issue and why would her parents need to “now” tell her about the guardianship, when that would have ended in 1991.

Telling her about an adoption is a whole other story, those records are sealed, so it’s possible that she didn’t know. Telling her about that is understandable.

Without an attorney she would not have known the difference between a dissolution of marriage and an annulment.

To her the ended result would be the same.

You can't divorce a marriage that never occurred

And though the marriage could be annulled, void as illegal, she would remain his heir as his daughter.

Yeah...

I'm done...

I'm going to stop think now and go and write a poem or something.

TOB said:

purplegirl00 said:

This. ^ That's one mystery about this whole thing.

Yes, this is confusing and getting worse by the minute.

Was the marriage planned for months or was it rushed.

How soon after the marriage was their child born.

.

Why didn’t she know he was her legal guardian back then? That doesn’t make much sense.

What was the issue and why would her parents need to “now” tell her about the guardianship, when that would have ended in 1991.

Telling her about an adoption is a whole other story, those records are sealed, so it’s possible that she didn’t know. Telling her about that is understandable.

Without an attorney she would not have known the difference between a dissolution of marriage and an annulment.

To her the ended result would be the same.

You can't divorce a marriage that never occurred

And though the marriage could be annulled, void as illegal, she would remain his heir as his daughter.

Yeah...

I'm done...

I'm going to stop think now and go and write a poem or something.

TOB, please don't play into this nonsense of them not being married or divorced. Here is a copy of the marriage certificate. As I've explained 100 times. You go to the court house to get a marriage license, it is signed my the bride and groom, who are then given the marriage certificate to give to the minister when they get married. The minister and 2 witnesses (usually the best man and the maid of honor) sign the marriage certificate, the minister then takes it to the courthouse and the courthouse records the marriage in their records which makes it legal.

.

Anyone can go get a marriage license, you don't have to use it. If you don't use it, you are not married, look at all the people who back out at the alter, just because they got the license, doesn't mean that they are married.

.

This nonsense is just not true. Just like 1/2 (or more) the things that people said about Denise wasn't true.

PennyPurple said:

TOB said:

Yes, this is confusing and getting worse by the minute.

Was the marriage planned for months or was it rushed.

How soon after the marriage was their child born.

.

Why didn’t she know he was her legal guardian back then? That doesn’t make much sense.

What was the issue and why would her parents need to “now” tell her about the guardianship, when that would have ended in 1991.

Telling her about an adoption is a whole other story, those records are sealed, so it’s possible that she didn’t know. Telling her about that is understandable.

Without an attorney she would not have known the difference between a dissolution of marriage and an annulment.

To her the ended result would be the same.

You can't divorce a marriage that never occurred

And though the marriage could be annulled, void as illegal, she would remain his heir as his daughter.

Yeah...

I'm done...

I'm going to stop think now and go and write a poem or something.

TOB, please don't play into this nonsense of them not being married or divorced. Here is a copy of the marriage certificate. As I've explained 100 times. You go to the court house to get a marriage license, it is signed my the bride and groom, who are then given the marriage certificate to give to the minister when they get married. The minister and 2 witnesses (usually the best man and the maid of honor) sign the marriage certificate, the minister then takes it to the courthouse and the courthouse records the marriage in their records which makes it legal.

.

Anyone can go get a marriage license, you don't have to use it. If you don't use it, you are not married, look at all the people who back out at the alter, just because they got the license, doesn't mean that they are married.

.

This nonsense is just not true. Just like 1/2 (or more) the things that people said about Denise wasn't true.

Denise has nothing to do with this. God Bless her and let her rest in peace.

Vashtix said:

PennyPurple said:

TOB, please don't play into this nonsense of them not being married or divorced. Here is a copy of the marriage certificate. As I've explained 100 times. You go to the court house to get a marriage license, it is signed my the bride and groom, who are then given the marriage certificate to give to the minister when they get married. The minister and 2 witnesses (usually the best man and the maid of honor) sign the marriage certificate, the minister then takes it to the courthouse and the courthouse records the marriage in their records which makes it legal.

.

Anyone can go get a marriage license, you don't have to use it. If you don't use it, you are not married, look at all the people who back out at the alter, just because they got the license, doesn't mean that they are married.

.

This nonsense is just not true. Just like 1/2 (or more) the things that people said about Denise wasn't true.

Denise has nothing to do with this. God Bless her and let her rest in peace.

LOLOL ... same difference, they did the same to Denise as they are doing to Mayte.

[Edited 4/4/17 19:12pm]

PennyPurple said:

Vashtix said:

Denise has nothing to do with this. God Bless her and let her rest in peace.

LOLOL ... same difference, they did the same to Denise as they are doing to Mayte.

[Edited 4/4/17 19:12pm]

If I recall Denise was not talking about her time with Prince; her book was about her; Mayte is totally imo on a different level. Denise was not posting pics of her and Prince and whatever she shared with him. She was sharing her story and how the redemption of Jesus changed her life.

The current book discussion is about M1 and is on a different level and that's cool but why people keep wanting to pull Denis out for this. Denise is deceased and did her book and it was a gift she touched many souls but it was not a tell all about her time with Prince.

Pulling her from the grave to give credence to this book hysteria grates.

Vashtix said:

PennyPurple said:

LOLOL ... same difference, they did the same to Denise as they are doing to Mayte.

[Edited 4/4/17 19:12pm]

If I recall Denise was not talking about her time with Prince; her book was about her; Mayte is totally imo on a different level. Denise was not posting pics of her and Prince and whatever she shared with him. She was sharing her story and how the redemption of Jesus changed her life.

The current book discussion is about M1 and is on a different level and that's cool but why people keep wanting to pull Denis out for this. Denise is deceased and did her book and it was a gift she touched many souls but it was not a tell all about her time with Prince.

Pulling her from the grave to give credence to this book hysteria grates.

? I'm not talking about Denise's book. I'm asking TOB not to be pulled into the drama of believing 1/2 of this stuff that is said, because as he full well knows, 1/2 the stuff that was said about Denise, wasn't true either.

.

Yes, I agree Denise touched a lot of souls and she was a wonderful person. I'm in 100% agreement with you there.

.

People are cruel. They say things that aren't true and can't back it up. I'm asking TOB to not fall for it, especially when it can be proven (that they were married).

.

Of all people on this forum, I respect TOB the most. He's creative, wonderful and caring and very thoughtful. I just don't want him to be pulled into this nonsense.

[Edited 4/4/17 19:36pm]

PennyPurple said:

Vashtix said:

If I recall Denise was not talking about her time with Prince; her book was about her; Mayte is totally imo on a different level. Denise was not posting pics of her and Prince and whatever she shared with him. She was sharing her story and how the redemption of Jesus changed her life.

The current book discussion is about M1 and is on a different level and that's cool but why people keep wanting to pull Denis out for this. Denise is deceased and did her book and it was a gift she touched many souls but it was not a tell all about her time with Prince.

Pulling her from the grave to give credence to this book hysteria grates.

? I'm not talking about Denise's book. I'm asking TOB not to be pulled into the drama of believing 1/2 of this stuff that is said, because as he full well knows, 1/2 the stuff that was said about Denise, wasn't true either.

.

Yes, I agree Denise touched a lot of souls and she was a wonderful person. I'm in 100% agreement with you there.

.

People are cruel. They say things that aren't true and can't back it up. I'm asking TOB to not fall for it, especially when it can be proven (that they were married).

.

Of all people on this forum, I respect TOB the most. He's creative, wonderful and caring and very thoughtful. I just don't want him to be pulled into this nonsense.

[Edited 4/4/17 19:36pm]

PennyPurple said:

TOB said:

Yes, this is confusing and getting worse by the minute.

Was the marriage planned for months or was it rushed.

How soon after the marriage was their child born.

.

Why didn’t she know he was her legal guardian back then? That doesn’t make much sense.

What was the issue and why would her parents need to “now” tell her about the guardianship, when that would have ended in 1991.

Telling her about an adoption is a whole other story, those records are sealed, so it’s possible that she didn’t know. Telling her about that is understandable.

Without an attorney she would not have known the difference between a dissolution of marriage and an annulment.

To her the ended result would be the same.

You can't divorce a marriage that never occurred

And though the marriage could be annulled, void as illegal, she would remain his heir as his daughter.

Yeah...

I'm done...

I'm going to stop think now and go and write a poem or something.

TOB, please don't play into this nonsense of them not being married or divorced. Here is a copy of the marriage certificate. As I've explained 100 times. You go to the court house to get a marriage license, it is signed my the bride and groom, who are then given the marriage certificate to give to the minister when they get married. The minister and 2 witnesses (usually the best man and the maid of honor) sign the marriage certificate, the minister then takes it to the courthouse and the courthouse records the marriage in their records which makes it legal.

.

Anyone can go get a marriage license, you don't have to use it. If you don't use it, you are not married, look at all the people who back out at the alter, just because they got the license, doesn't mean that they are married.

.

This nonsense is just not true. Just like 1/2 (or more) the things that people said about Denise wasn't true.

Thanks for posting this. Now, can you find the divorce decree/ information? That seems to be a mystery.

purplegirl00 said:

Thanks for posting this. Now, can you find the divorce decree/ information? That seems to be a mystery.

Wish I could. I don't know where or what county in the USA or out of the USA to look. My guess is it wasn't in Carver or Hennepin County.

Regarding the legal guardianship, she was underage, she was away from her family, and she was not an emanicapted minor. This means someone would have to be "in charge" of her legally, to address medical issues, to give her permission to perform and travel since her parents were not there to grant that permission. With Prince being so spontaneous with concerts and travel, it would have to be someone in the immediate vicinity, so it only makes sense that Prince would be granted a power of attorney or some other legal guardianship over Mayte to be able to make those kinds of decisions since Mayte was not of a legal age to be able to make those decisions. It's just good legal sense in the situation.

As for her not knowing at the time that Prince had legal guardianship of her (legal guardianship does not indicate adoption), it is merely a document that grants someone else the authority to make decisions for a minor, when I moved in with my aunt and uncle, I thought they had adopted my sister and I. For years, they let me live with this belief, even using their last name as my own. It wasn't until I moved in with another family member and had to register for a different school that I learned I was not adopted, my aunt and uncle only had legal guardianship of my sister and I. Essentially, they were given the rights to seek medical treatment, to register us for school, to provide our care, but they were not our parents and any MAJOR decisions had to go through my father first. There are many ways that she could have been unaware of what Prince's lawyers and her parents had discussed since she was considered a minor and therefore would not have been included in those proceedings.

PennyPurple said:

TOB said:

Yes, this is confusing and getting worse by the minute.

Was the marriage planned for months or was it rushed.

How soon after the marriage was their child born.

.

Why didn’t she know he was her legal guardian back then? That doesn’t make much sense.

What was the issue and why would her parents need to “now” tell her about the guardianship, when that would have ended in 1991.

Telling her about an adoption is a whole other story, those records are sealed, so it’s possible that she didn’t know. Telling her about that is understandable.

Without an attorney she would not have known the difference between a dissolution of marriage and an annulment.

To her the ended result would be the same.

You can't divorce a marriage that never occurred

And though the marriage could be annulled, void as illegal, she would remain his heir as his daughter.

Yeah...

I'm done...

I'm going to stop think now and go and write a poem or something.

TOB, please don't play into this nonsense of them not being married or divorced. Here is a copy of the marriage certificate. As I've explained 100 times. You go to the court house to get a marriage license, it is signed my the bride and groom, who are then given the marriage certificate to give to the minister when they get married. The minister and 2 witnesses (usually the best man and the maid of honor) sign the marriage certificate, the minister then takes it to the courthouse and the courthouse records the marriage in their records which makes it legal.

.

Anyone can go get a marriage license, you don't have to use it. If you don't use it, you are not married, look at all the people who back out at the alter, just because they got the license, doesn't mean that they are married.

.

This nonsense is just not true. Just like 1/2 (or more) the things that people said about Denise wasn't true.

I'm not being played, and believe most my comments hold her innocent.

My speculation is just as I said, “a thought.” I am too flawed and judge no one.

If her entire book is completely true and accurate, I’m a bit uncomfortable with reading about the romance of a 16 year old girl, and do not wish to try to convince myself otherwise trying to justify the possibility. I’m not hating on her or him and wish it had worked out for them.

I’m too analytical and I have a 13 year old daughter. I do not doubt Mayte to be a wonderful person, the exception to the rule even, but I visualize when I read.

It’s just that I’m a romantic poet and a big fan of women, something else I thought I had in common with Prince.

Prince said his music speaks for him.

For you to understand what and how I think I’ll let my writing speak for me…

.

.

i.e. SHE

.

Her nature, our relation… is my inspiration.

To have me glimpse epiphanies to teases creation.

.

Sensing my pen’s need to bleed puddles and pools of ink;

knowing its desperate want for a reason.

And I,

being metaphorically equally as needy,

plus seemingly easily bemused by her feminine mystique,

for her enjoyment She wades in… to watch my mind drift as She pleases.

.

Awaiting serenity’s engagement…

Awaiting for her to impart sublime comprehension…

I do not listen

I sense them

She hints them

As if She blissfully kissed them

into existence.

.

“She”

Always does this to me

and I compose a piece within this serenity

A piece as if in rhythm with a heart’s beat.

.

The pace set subconsciously

Tempo synchronized to the spaces left empty.

Circadian harmonized

to fill the distance between me and She.

.

Relying upon the subtlety of this divine leading,

as if my two eyes blind

and my third eye wide,

so “Blissfully kissed” I began writing.

.

The following sequence of events

begins, not with the sequence of her dress,

though taking notice of it (She too notes)

That it does have some notable influence.

.

Although, its’ length

exposes only the length of my attention,

blatant… hint or suggestion

not to mention what She is intentionally doing to me.

.

Obviously, this piece is not mused to be

about drifting wood,

or the social political state of affairs

relative to each neighborhood we share,

nor about the stereotypical statistical clichéd ranting’s of this poetic chronicler,

but rather the thoughts and nature of man… specifically, this man.

.

The danger and difficulty of delicacy feasting

with thy own eyes is in the reaching…

a tipping-point where tasting becomes gluttony

and thy eyes yet remain still hungry.

.

And for this piece,

this is where She needed me to be…

Hungry!

Thus, Blissfully kissed” I began writing

about She.

.

Its’ intent is not meant to significantly compete, historically,

with the Mona Lisa,

Corel Castle, the Taj Mahal, or Solomon’s Song

in beloved honoring.

.

It’s just that, Deservingly,

with all her past inspirings,

in my words She wanted

Me

to prose a reflection of “SHE”

and “Her” influence on “He”

from the beginning...

Since Adam and Eve

Throughout the century

and on down to “Me.”

.

Blissfully kissed, I began scribing

describing in highlighted details

of what She will mean to He.

.

What Her life (Her past, Her present and Her future)

brings to He.

Enhancing, motivating, inspiring…

from the beginning to the never ending.

.

In the beginning…

How fitting,

for it is this beginning that we (man) is often forgetting,

and thus repeating.

.

Forgetting how…

solely and soullessly He was mechanically doing,

yearning and wanting without She,

forgetting to be thankful to HE, who gifted She.

.

Silly little them… (men)

who have pondered and argued

the number of angels that could dance on the head of a pin.

Time would be better spent

considering "HIS Final Creation" instead, (i.e. She).

.

It is evident that Her creation

was no mere negligible oversight,

no afterthought corrected,

not given all that She is blessed with.

.

No, no She was meant to be

as icing

She is topping,

enticing,

as a prized crown jewel sparkling.

.

And if an afterthought,

as it Biblically reads…

Then she is the encore crescendo to the final act before resting.

.

Profile, flawless with stunning accentuations,

obviously an upgrade from the first model created.

Could be the reason for the “Doubled You (W)” coming before the “Oh-man”

That is, when you consider the amount of Her value and true significance.

Gifted presented to mankind, to life,

to have purpose, to have meaning

Man’s motivation and inspiration; which I can “bare” witness.

.

Man’s buttress companion carrying both his burden and his legacy

Both figuratively and literally his reason for being is She, i.e.

.

And to speak frankly, if it were written

That not “Man”

but “Woman” was made in God’s image

there would be less warring and more worshipping and thanksgiving.

.

Blissfully kissed

AND SO IT IS WRITTEN

The true intention of SHE to muse this,

my inspired benediction,

as testimony to man’s failed acknowledgement of Her true significance.

His arrogance destines him to remain ignorant to the feminine mystique

thus inevitable to forever independently repeat

with his and his and his-story.

.

Hopelessly awkwardly progressing

without significant reasoning without meaning

As Adam before Eve,

“without”

i.e. She.

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TOB said:

PennyPurple said:

TOB, please don't play into this nonsense of them not being married or divorced. Here is a copy of the marriage certificate. As I've explained 100 times. You go to the court house to get a marriage license, it is signed my the bride and groom, who are then given the marriage certificate to give to the minister when they get married. The minister and 2 witnesses (usually the best man and the maid of honor) sign the marriage certificate, the minister then takes it to the courthouse and the courthouse records the marriage in their records which makes it legal.

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Anyone can go get a marriage license, you don't have to use it. If you don't use it, you are not married, look at all the people who back out at the alter, just because they got the license, doesn't mean that they are married.

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This nonsense is just not true. Just like 1/2 (or more) the things that people said about Denise wasn't true.

I'm not being played, and believe most my comments hold her innocent.

My speculation is just as I said, “a thought.” I am too flawed and judge no one.

If her entire book is completely true and accurate, I’m a bit uncomfortable with reading about the romance of a 16 year old girl, and do not wish to try to convince myself otherwise trying to justify the possibility. I’m not hating on her or him and wish it had worked out for them.

I’m too analytical and I have a 13 year old daughter. I do not doubt Mayte to be a wonderful person, the exception to the rule even, but I visualize when I read.

It’s just that I’m a romantic poet and a big fan of women, something else I thought I had in common with Prince.

Prince said his music speaks for him.

For you to understand what and how I think I’ll let my writing speak for me…

.

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i.e. SHE

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Her nature, our relation… is my inspiration.

To have me glimpse epiphanies to teases creation.

.

Sensing my pen’s need to bleed puddles and pools of ink;

knowing its desperate want for a reason.

And I,

being metaphorically equally as needy,

plus seemingly easily bemused by her feminine mystique,

for her enjoyment She wades in… to watch my mind drift as She pleases.

.

Awaiting serenity’s engagement…

Awaiting for her to impart sublime comprehension…

I do not listen

I sense them

She hints them

As if She blissfully kissed them

into existence.

.

“She”

Always does this to me

and I compose a piece within this serenity

A piece as if in rhythm with a heart’s beat.

.

The pace set subconsciously

Tempo synchronized to the spaces left empty.

Circadian harmonized

to fill the distance between me and She.

.

Relying upon the subtlety of this divine leading,

as if my two eyes blind

and my third eye wide,

so “Blissfully kissed” I began writing.

.

The following sequence of events

begins, not with the sequence of her dress,

though taking notice of it (She too notes)

That it does have some notable influence.

.

Although, its’ length

exposes only the length of my attention,

blatant… hint or suggestion

not to mention what She is intentionally doing to me.

.

Obviously, this piece is not mused to be

about drifting wood,

or the social political state of affairs

relative to each neighborhood we share,

nor about the stereotypical statistical clichéd ranting’s of this poetic chronicler,

but rather the thoughts and nature of man… specifically, this man.

.

The danger and difficulty of delicacy feasting

with thy own eyes is in the reaching…

a tipping-point where tasting becomes gluttony

and thy eyes yet remain still hungry.

.

And for this piece,

this is where She needed me to be…

Hungry!

Thus, Blissfully kissed” I began writing

about She.

.

Its’ intent is not meant to significantly compete, historically,

with the Mona Lisa,

Corel Castle, the Taj Mahal, or Solomon’s Song

in beloved honoring.

.

It’s just that, Deservingly,

with all her past inspirings,

in my words She wanted

Me

to prose a reflection of “SHE”

and “Her” influence on “He”

from the beginning...

Since Adam and Eve

Throughout the century

and on down to “Me.”

.

Blissfully kissed, I began scribing

describing in highlighted details

of what She will mean to He.

.

What Her life (Her past, Her present and Her future)

brings to He.

Enhancing, motivating, inspiring…

from the beginning to the never ending.

.

In the beginning…

How fitting,

for it is this beginning that we (man) is often forgetting,

and thus repeating.

.

Forgetting how…

solely and soullessly He was mechanically doing,

yearning and wanting without She,

forgetting to be thankful to HE, who gifted She.

.

Silly little them… (men)

who have pondered and argued

the number of angels that could dance on the head of a pin.

Time would be better spent

considering "HIS Final Creation" instead, (i.e. She).

.

It is evident that Her creation

was no mere negligible oversight,

no afterthought corrected,

not given all that She is blessed with.

.

No, no She was meant to be

as icing

She is topping,

enticing,

as a prized crown jewel sparkling.

.

And if an afterthought,

as it Biblically reads…

Then she is the encore crescendo to the final act before resting.

.

Profile, flawless with stunning accentuations,

obviously an upgrade from the first model created.

Could be the reason for the “Doubled You (W)” coming before the “Oh-man”

That is, when you consider the amount of Her value and true significance.

Gifted presented to mankind, to life,

to have purpose, to have meaning

Man’s motivation and inspiration; which I can “bare” witness.

.

Man’s buttress companion carrying both his burden and his legacy

Both figuratively and literally his reason for being is She, i.e.

.

And to speak frankly, if it were written

That not “Man”

but “Woman” was made in God’s image

there would be less warring and more worshipping and thanksgiving.

.

Blissfully kissed

AND SO IT IS WRITTEN

The true intention of SHE to muse this,

my inspired benediction,

as testimony to man’s failed acknowledgement of Her true significance.

His arrogance destines him to remain ignorant to the feminine mystique

thus inevitable to forever independently repeat

with his and his and his-story.

.

Hopelessly awkwardly progressing

without significant reasoning without meaning

As Adam before Eve,

“without”

i.e. She.

[Edited 4/4/17 20:37pm]

I get the bold and it might be part of my problem too as I have a 15 year old daughter. As a mother, I just can't imagine shipping off my daughter off to a 30-something year old man. I don't care how rich. It pains me everytime she goes out the front door- I remember doing little sneaky things at that age and now we have technology. Yay for being a parent in the 21st century!

Wow... your poem is beautiful! Thank you for sharing.

FUNNY

.

I woke up this morning in need,

wanting your care.

Rolling over half expecting to find you there.

Then imagining you were,

I then began,

running my fingers through your hair.

Funny.

.

Thoughts of caressing your cheeks,

Mind is again considering your lines.

From foot to thigh,

thigh to breast, hair and eyes,

Mind has me again on the rise…

Thinking… “next time

We’ll modify that six and nine.”

.

How this often happens is no surprise,

it’s just that I…

find,

it Funny

.

WHY?

.

My intellect seems a need to justify

A craving I cannot deny.

Stopping to analyze.

As if desire could be quantified.

By the contrast appeal of “Logic”

To that of “Want of Eye”

Or

so Says My Mind.

.

You see…

“My point is not to objectify…

the physical,

though may-be… the reason why…

I pry to unbind

that which lies behind

the meaning

leading all that is coming from the inside…

.

To find

a meeting of the minds…

And hoping

you too are so inclined”

…Funny.

.

That was all an attempt to justify

why I have your body always heavy on my mind

.

Behind my intellect

I attempt to hide.

.

My “Want”

I try to rationalize.

.

Knowing my nature is a yearning to be inside,

more than just your beautiful mind.

.

And It’s Funny, because

it is my intellect

that thinks you are So… Damn… FINE!!!

and I find… it Funny

.

.

.

.

Do you understand?

.

When I write it is meant to move a woman and make men think or rethink a certain way about a woman.

Do I succeed?

His use of pain-killers shouldn’t be scandalous.

The public shock or disbelief explains the reason why he felt he needed hide it.

Really, was this the first sign of him being human?

News Flash PRINCE is Normal!!!

Or World’s Greatest Performer hides pain from the world until it killed him…

That is just sad and my main issue with it are those who enabled it.

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I am not playing into anything because for me it's not about the marriage or divorce.

It is solely about her age.

I can read between the lines and play Devil’s Advocate for everything after 1992.

On Amazon they advertise the book describing, “… their unconventional meeting backstage at a concert

(and the long-distance romance that followed), to their fairy-tale wedding...

.

This implies that he was continuously visiting and calling her romantically at 16,

until she later moves in when she was 17, and then on top of that he adopts her?

This is the teaser and I shouldn’t be disturbed by that.

.

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When I first heard "And GOD Created Woman" it immediately reminded me of i.e. SHE.

That song was recorded in 1991...

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I will get over my shock. It's not my life.

Expecting people, especially his fans, not to be shocked is not reasonable.

We are in disbelief, mad, sad at it appearing to be opportunistic, but someday we might get over it.

Just not at this moment.

People just should step back and let us vent.

TOB said:

FUNNY

.

I woke up this morning in need,

wanting your care.

Rolling over half expecting to find you there.

Then imagining you were,

I then began,

running my fingers through your hair.

Funny.

.

Thoughts of caressing your cheeks,

Mind is again considering your lines.

From foot to thigh,

thigh to breast, hair and eyes,

Mind has me again on the rise…

Thinking… “next time

We’ll modify that six and nine.”

.

How this often happens is no surprise,

it’s just that I…

find,

it Funny

.

WHY?

.

My intellect seems a need to justify

A craving I cannot deny.

Stopping to analyze.

As if desire could be quantified.

By the contrast appeal of “Logic”

To that of “Want of Eye”

Or

so Says My Mind.

.

You see…

“My point is not to objectify…

the physical,

though may-be… the reason why…

I pry to unbind

that which lies behind

the meaning

leading all that is coming from the inside…

.

To find

a meeting of the minds…

And hoping

you too are so inclined”

…Funny.

.

That was all an attempt to justify

why I have your body always heavy on my mind

.

Behind my intellect

I attempt to hide.

.

My “Want”

I try to rationalize.

.

Knowing my nature is a yearning to be inside,

more than just your beautiful mind.

.

And It’s Funny, because

it is my intellect

that thinks you are So… Damn… FINE!!!

and I find… it Funny

.

.

.

.

Do you understand?

.

When I write it is meant to move a woman and make men think or rethink a certain way about a woman.

Do I succeed?

You do succeed. Thank you TOB for sharing!

Vashtix said: