Some Guys Send You Flowers, Prince Gives You Albums’: An Interview With Jill Jones

Once a woman completed an album with Prince, the romantic period was over

oh man ain't that the truth

The more I'm seeing Wendy as conniving/manipulative. A lot of things are beginning to make sense now.

jaawwnn said:

Once a woman completed an album with Prince, the romantic period was over

oh man ain't that the truth

I thought the exact same thing.

Iamtheorg said:

The more I'm seeing Wendy as conniving/manipulative. A lot of things are beginning to make sense now.

don't you know you're not allowed to talk about W&L on here unless it's praise or giving them all the credit? lol anyway, this was a great article. after Prince's death a lot of people on FB groups kept talking about him transcending race and not seeing color whatever the hell that even means. All the while, as years went on Prince affirmed his blackness. i'm proud of him.

tab32792 said:

Iamtheorg said:

The more I'm seeing Wendy as conniving/manipulative. A lot of things are beginning to make sense now.

don't you know you're not allowed to talk about W&L on here unless it's praise or giving them all the credit? lol anyway, this was a great article. after Prince's death a lot of people on FB groups kept talking about him transcending race and not seeing color whatever the hell that even means. All the while, as years went on Prince affirmed his blackness. i'm proud of him.

Ever since the WB wars, it seemd to me he made sure things were ba-lack as much as possible. I read about some instance where the n word was thrown around with the new guard at WB, or at least how he felt uncomfortable with the new guard as they were not as enamored with him as Ostin, etc were.

I think Jughead was veiled explanation and feelings about a lot of things besides just managers.

Jill is simply maing some of this come to light, such as her final comments on that Purple Rain panel last month.

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tab32792 said:

Iamtheorg said:

The more I'm seeing Wendy as conniving/manipulative. A lot of things are beginning to make sense now.

don't you know you're not allowed to talk about W&L on here unless it's praise or giving them all the credit? lol anyway, this was a great article. after Prince's death a lot of people on FB groups kept talking about him transcending race and not seeing color whatever the hell that even means. All the while, as years went on Prince affirmed his blackness. i'm proud of him.

I think you're giving a little too much credit to Wendy & Lisa, sure didn't Prince drop them when he was done with them as well? And hasn't Dez always stated that he left because he wanted to?

She was there though, not me

Latin said:

Thanks for posting this article. Hopefully, Jill Jones is added to the list of awesome Prince associated artists scheduled to perform at the Prince memorial tribute & celebrations being held in October because she is an amazing vocalist and has one of the best albums of any Prince protege.

I concur. JJ should definitely be invited. I like her.

Iamtheorg said:

"It was a way to distance himself from when he got in the game: the ambivalence of white, black, no creed, no race. That needs to be talked about more because that really gives you a frame of mind of where he evolved to and he never left it. He had a public side that he wanted to show but once he left the white record system, he was free to be, “This is who I really am.” He was a brotha. I don’t care what people wanna say. No, he was not Sammy lunchmeat! I’m sitting here and looking at everyone revising his history and somebody has to get on it because they’re just leaving out the chunks that matter!"

Thank you, Jill, for confirming what many have tried to explain here on the org, but typically ignored, locked, or deleted. I get the feeling she's saying this in direct response to how some here try to downplay what Prince tried to correct as he grew older/wiser, revising his history based in their assumptions/beliefs, etc. Brav-fucking-o.

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GoldenParachute said:

Iamtheorg said:

The more I'm seeing Wendy as conniving/manipulative. A lot of things are beginning to make sense now.

Why do you say that?

Because I can read.

jaawwnn said:

tab32792 said:

don't you know you're not allowed to talk about W&L on here unless it's praise or giving them all the credit? lol anyway, this was a great article. after Prince's death a lot of people on FB groups kept talking about him transcending race and not seeing color whatever the hell that even means. All the while, as years went on Prince affirmed his blackness. i'm proud of him.

I think you're giving a little too much credit to Wendy & Lisa, sure didn't Prince drop them when he was done with them as well? And hasn't Dez always stated that he left because he wanted to?

She was there though, not me

i was being sarcstic lol they were important but not as much as they're painted as on here.

After reading this, the FB post NOW makes sense!!!!! The part about Wendy & Lisa getting Dez out of the picture........

woogiebear said:

After reading this, the FB post NOW makes sense!!!!!

sho' does

woogiebear said:

There's a real tension between those who praised and loved him for his ambiguity (I mean the amount of people who have come out and said he helped them dealing with being gay/small/effeminate/mixed race etc.) and her point that once he got to a place in the (white record company) system where he was secure he was happy to step back from that ambiguity and embrace being "a brotha", along with all the trappings that come with that.

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jaawwnn said:

There's a real tension between those who praised and loved him for his ambiguity (I mean the amount of people who have come out and said he helped them dealing with being gay/small/effeminate/mixed race etc.) and her point that once he got to a place in the (white record company) system where he was secure he was happy to step back from that ambiguity and embrace being "a brotha", along with all the trappings that come with that.

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Yeah. For one Wendy and Fink didnt like that. Fink is quoted in A Pop Life that after Wally and them joined, "Prince wanted to hang around his black buddies"

luvgirl said:

Thank you for the article. It was very nice of her to mention Kim Upsher. I've always wanted to know more about her. What she said about her was very enlightening! As I've seen in the past how a thread that touches on the topic of race can turn out, I'm a little weary on the direction this thread will take. Prince has fans that are all races and creed so Please let's be respectful and thoughtful in our post as not offend anyone. Sometimes just a turn of phrase can be hurtful to others. Thanks again for the article. There's a few interesting tid bits to analyze now...
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So happy that Jill finally told her perspective in an interview. I would like for her to write a book and she can go self publishing route too.

She's needs to stop throwing shade at Wendy and Lisa. It's childish. Obviously whatever went down between them and Dez has been forgiven as he was part of the REV show earlier this month. People do grow up and people do forgive, something she has yet to do. Sad.

blizzybiz said:

bondno9 said:

rogifan said:

bondno9 said:

She's needs to stop throwing shade at Wendy and Lisa. It's childish. Obviously whatever went down between them and Dez has been forgiven as he was part of the REV show earlier this month. People do grow up and people do forgive, something she has yet to do. Sad.

Was Jill at the Rev shows?

No, she was not