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ladygirl99 said:
I have been on the org since 1998 and some fans did addressed a displeasure of Prince discussed about race. And the most recent backlash when he did the song Baltimore and addressed police bruality against minorities. All people have to do is google search on this org to see some of the unhappy comments. If you are going to follow a minority artist (whether they are gay, black, women, or whatever) don't be suprised if they address social conscious issues that affect them.
It would be nice if I don't have to think about race and no matter how hard I tried to think myself as a human being, I am still reminder, in society, of my sex and race. Prince likely think that way too as he wanted to transcend but couldnt in this planet. Very true. Especially when he mentioned 'Freddue Gray'. A lot if fans weren't aware that he also followed the State of the Black Union conferences, and Tavis Smiley said Prince would call him after the conference, and they would be on the phone for hours talking about the discussions that took place, at the conference, and how Prince had an interest in that conference and concerns about/for the state of the Black community. I mean after all, Prince had family members which I'n sure understand and can relate to the experience of living as a Black Anericans, in this country, so I don't get why some would think he had no concern/interest about members from his own racial community. I think many fans focused and was in love with his light complexion, and based on the women he dated, (many of whom were close to his complexion), drew from that the impression that Prince distanced himself from the darker-complected part of his community, and many assumed this, without knowing any real truths about that. Lawd knows we have seen/read here and on other sites, the many, negative and ugly reactions/comments from some fans, when he was seen with a friend/associate/protégée of a darker shade. Sad, but true that was often the response. [Edited 9/29/16 15:38pm] | |
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JudasLChrist said:
I don't agree, but we are both entitled to our opinions. So I will agree to disagree. You should go back and read some of the threads about that album. Anyway, getting back on topic, I appreciate Jill sharing her experience with others about her time with Prince. | |
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* Dez Dickerson in Purple After your departure from Prince's band, how did you react to the offhanded way he addressed your departure in the “Extraloveable” outtake? It seemed like it could have been good-natured ribbing or meant as pointedly nasty; since Prince has very rarely let the public in on how his sense of humor is keyed, we may never know. (Speaking as a fan, it seems tacky, particularly since he chose to do so in one of his filthiest songs.) My departure from the band was discussed and planned — I had the option of re-upping for an additional three years after the 1999 tour, or leaving with the full support of Prince and management to launch the solo career he and I agreed I would pursue at some point. The lyric was, as always, a calculated reference meant to provoke speculation — which it did, and still does. Having been around during Gayle Chapman's alienation (and later, departure) from Prince's band due to nastiness in the material, did that affect you in your own religious awakening and reaction to the sexual theatre that comprised much of the Dirty Mind, Controversy and 1999 tours? After having been "raised in the church" but opting out at age 16, I had a profound salvation experience on the Christmas break from the Dirty Mind tour in 1980. Unlike the classic "come to Jesus" testimony of the fallen rocker who finds himself in the gutter, drug-addled and penniless, and surrenders his or her life to Christ, mine was a mountaintop epiphany. I was doing everything I ever wanted to do, but found it hollow and unfulfilling. On Dec. 22, 1980, in the living room of my house on Castle Ave. in North St. Paul, Minn., at about 11:30 p.m., I had what I can only describe as a divine encounter, and, in a moment of time, recognized that it was the relationship with the living God, from Whom I had bolted, that I really needed, not attempting to become a guitar-playing god myself. After that, I went back out on the road with a radically changed perspective, although I remained in the group for almost three more years. Eventually, it was the realization that the incongruity of who I needed to be and who I had to be as "the guy with the kamikaze headband" was changing me in ways that made me difficult to live with. Ultimately, when you know it's time to turn the page, nothing else matters but going out and doing what you are, as opposed to continuing to do what you've always done, what makes you famous, etc.
Wow That is touching and he was self aware So many of Prince'superstar 80s crew became Christians | |
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I am kind of suprised to hear Prince had Anti semetic views because he had a lot of people who were Jews around him. From his first manager to Wendy and Susannah, plus Matt Fink and Bobby, and Vanity's mother was Jewish I believed, and some others I can't think of right now. Keep in mind he was on a record label that was founded by Jewish immigrants. And plus if he was that way wouldn't the media called him out like they had with Michael Jackson? I also admired Jewish people and I thought Prince did too and because I said awhile back one of the many things P and I have in common was our appreciation for Jewish people as they (besides Native Americans) gets it and tend to be most of understanding black oppression and even helped black people alot from starting NAACP to help keeping black women's art and contributions alive that otherwise would had been ignored in the black community and mainstream to Hollywood, etc.
I am also aware Prince had flaws and I did called out his questionable remarks in regard to gay people.
But that is another topic. I am glad that Jill did defend Prince as people in the past said he was ashame and distance himself from his blackness. | |
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Reminder ( Please let us. Stay on topic which is this article) i dont want this thread to hit south 💜💜💜 | |
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strawberrylova123 said: Reminder ( Please let us. Stay on topic which is this article) i dont want this thread to hit south 💜💜💜 Yeah...too late. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: strawberrylova123 said: Reminder ( Please let us. Stay on topic which is this article) i dont want this thread to hit south 💜💜💜
Yeah...too late. Nope never too late..we can stay on track. [Edited 9/29/16 16:45pm] | |
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bondno9 said: She's needs to stop throwing shade at Wendy and Lisa. It's childish. Obviously whatever went down between them and Dez has been forgiven as he was part of the REV show earlier this month. People do grow up and people do forgive, something she has yet to do. Sad. Thank you. She has no tact. Plantation mistresses really? And how does she know what was going on with Prince she hadn't seen him since forever!!! | |
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strawberrylova123 said: Reminder ( Please let us. Stay on topic which is this article) i dont want this thread to hit south 💜💜💜 It already has. Sigh... Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜 | |
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How many people do you know outside of the hard core fan base even know about the exsistence of "The Rainbow Children"? | |
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Ah, I forgot Ingrid Chavez
Ingrid Chavez - 1992 (recorded from 1987-1991)
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--- She was a plantation mistress so she knows what she is talking about. | |
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Plantation Mistress? Really you guys? That's not even a good metaphor (Pailsey Park wasn't a plantation, Prince wasn't Massa'). But leave it to the Org to say something awful about Prince asscociates. Espcially if they are women. | |
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Good one! | |
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Just to clarify, the Huffpo does NOT pay most contributors, hence the reason so much of its content is poorly written and edited. I have no idea if this writer is on staff or not, but if not on staff, they likely did the work for free. And we get what we pay for.
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limoncello said:
Just to clarify, the Huffpo does NOT pay most contributors, hence the reason so much of its content is poorly written and edited. I have no idea if this writer is on staff or not, but if not on staff, they likely did the work for free. And we get what we pay for.
I see. Learn something new every day  "We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15 | |
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i consider ingrid an exception. they weren't romantic and he dropped her project fairly quickly and only got interested in it once ingrid and koppelman had approached WB directly. +++ Tamar calls him uncle P so idoubt they were getting sexual. isn't her album STILL in limbo? poor thing. Prince really knew how to hamstring a sista. first Jill then Margie Cox, then Rosie and Tamar. Judith barely got a release but sony had to sue Prince. that's a BAD habit he had. it reminds of those men and women who love to still someone elses partner even if they don't want them seriously. they just like to "know they can". not cool. [Edited 9/30/16 16:51pm] Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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Oh right, Margie Cox is another (but I don't think they were romantic either)
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Yeah. I'm afraid you're right. I have mixed feelings since I always found her insanely attractive (with dark hair) and loved her album. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reading his book will tell you he very much wanted to leave. Plus her calling them the "milli vanilli" band was ridiculous considering he wrote all of her songs. Her Facebook tantrums have really shined a light on who she is as a person sadly.
Yeah, lol. The first sentence alone was a fucking nightmare. Don't they have editors at the Huffington Post? Jesus! “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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That's strange as I never questioned what Jill was in any of the photos I saw of her, Mariah either.
I honestly think sometimes that like recognizes like.
I never doubted that Jill was black Because of their half-baked mistakes, we get ice cream, no cake; all lies, no truth; is it fair to Kill the YOUTH ~~ Party Up | |
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---------- Tamar's record was never picked up by Sony. You can find it as a bootlegg and it is actually pretty good.
Margie Cox said her manager convinced her to leave Prince and she admitted this was a mistake on her part.
Judith CD is available to purchase directly from her website. How is something barely released either it is or it is not. In addition, Judith wanted Prince to work on her CD and Jolene Cherry and Sony did not want his involvement. She took her songs and went off with him and Prince got sued over it. Sounds like he put his ass on the line for her.
I know Rosie had a deal with Motown but I believe that put her CD on the shelf | |
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both margie and rosie said that when they did want to leave prince refused to release them from their contracts and refused to release their records which had been on the shelf for a minute by then anyway. just likehehad done with ingrid who took the initative to go to the studio and work on things for herself. but she hadn't signed any contracts with p at that point so she probably had more freedom. rosie andmargie were in his band fora minute so thoes contracts were still active.
-- i thought judy was locked into her situation with sony. maybe i misunderstood the nature of her deal with them. which is why i thought her thing with sony was like tamar and universal and she just barely got the release out before things went south. Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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