KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Mj didn't even own his masters before he passed....

Yes, Michael Jackson was an even worse businessman--seriously. I mean, he does something brilliant like buying the Beatles catalog (and a whole lot more) out from under Paul and Yoko, and then fails to hold onto it?

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But that's completely irrelevant. We were talking about Prince, the incredible businessman who signed a contract that entitled him to something he wanted only if he delivered something he couldn't deliver, and who then got mad about it, whined for a few years in an incredibly embarrassing way, was so annoying that the other party to the contract cut their losses by cutting him loose (since clearly he wasn't going to live up to his side and would sabotage anything they did), insulted others who continued to live up to their contracts by describing their situation as (when he was being polite) slavery or (at other times) worse, then after 20 years (yep, people born after he started whining can now vote here in the U.S.A.) he got (apparently) his masters back, and still hasn't lived up to what was probably a pretty important part of getting a new contract with his old slavemasters.

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Also, I've got to say that a music industry businessman who is either ignorant enough (or willing to pretend to be ignorant enough) to be getting an introductory course on Spotify in front of and from a bunch of Minneapolis press is hardly building confidence for anyone looking for a potential business partner. I'm sure Judith Hill learned a lot in the studio (and can be proud of what resulted from those few weeks of recording), but I bet she felt a little sick during that whole farce with the reporters.

Love, love, love this album!...Gorgeously funkalicious with hints of jazz and a splash of soul...I want a second helping...

I only wish Prince would spend as much time on his own music and release the same standard.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I'm sure these cuts were part of the NPGQ project. just decided to give them to an artist that serves them better. What a very humble thing to do!?

As you well know, Prince changed his name back from a symbol in 1999. Calling someone by a name they no longer wish to be referred by is extremely disrespectful.

SquirrelMeat said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I'm sure these cuts were part of the NPGQ project. just decided to give them to an artist that serves them better. What a very humble thing to do!?

As you well know, Prince changed his name back from a symbol in 1999. Calling someone by a name they no longer wish to be referred by is extremely disrespectful.

Given the fact that he keeps using the symbol intensively on stage and album covers, I doubt could possibly feel offended being called that way, it's not like calling Sananda Terence... Wait! Does every one keep talking about Terence Trent D'Arby on the Org? Does anyone makes a fuss that people don't call him Sananda Maitreya? No they don't. No one cares that his name isn't TTD anymore.

This whole anti-symbol campaign is just a biaised, symbolist (as in racist and sexist, but with symbols) campaign is all. If Prince had called himself Robert between 93 and 99, no one would care if people here kept calling him Robert.

EddieC said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Mj didn't even own his masters before he passed....

Yes, Michael Jackson was an even worse businessman--seriously. I mean, he does something brilliant like buying the Beatles catalog (and a whole lot more) out from under Paul and Yoko, and then fails to hold onto it?

.

But that's completely irrelevant. We were talking about Prince, the incredible businessman who signed a contract that entitled him to something he wanted only if he delivered something he couldn't deliver, and who then got mad about it, whined for a few years in an incredibly embarrassing way, was so annoying that the other party to the contract cut their losses by cutting him loose (since clearly he wasn't going to live up to his side and would sabotage anything they did), insulted others who continued to live up to their contracts by describing their situation as (when he was being polite) slavery or (at other times) worse, then after 20 years (yep, people born after he started whining can now vote here in the U.S.A.) he got (apparently) his masters back, and still hasn't lived up to what was probably a pretty important part of getting a new contract with his old slavemasters.

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Also, I've got to say that a music industry businessman who is either ignorant enough (or willing to pretend to be ignorant enough) to be getting an introductory course on Spotify in front of and from a bunch of Minneapolis press is hardly building confidence for anyone looking for a potential business partner. I'm sure Judith Hill learned a lot in the studio (and can be proud of what resulted from those few weeks of recording), but I bet she felt a little sick during that whole farce with the reporters.

Obviously! The WbR contract wasn't realistic, or 's lawyer wouldn't have found loop holes, to get him out of it. They took TOTAL advantage of like they did other artist....Him signing it was irrelevant.

is the one that emancipated himself from WbR. Not the other way around. GET IT RIGHT!

databank said:

SquirrelMeat said:

As you well know, Prince changed his name back from a symbol in 1999. Calling someone by a name they no longer wish to be referred by is extremely disrespectful.

Given the fact that he keeps using the symbol intensively on stage and album covers, I doubt could possibly feel offended being called that way, it's not like calling Sananda Terence... Wait! Does every one keep talking about Terence Trent D'Arby on the Org? Does anyone makes a fuss that people don't call him Sananda Maitreya? No they don't. No one cares that his name isn't TTD anymore.

This whole anti-symbol campaign is just a biaised, symbolist (as in racist and sexist, but with symbols) campaign is all. If Prince had called himself Robert between 93 and 99, no one would care if people here kept calling him Robert.

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databank said:

SquirrelMeat said:

As you well know, Prince changed his name back from a symbol in 1999. Calling someone by a name they no longer wish to be referred by is extremely disrespectful.

Given the fact that he keeps using the symbol intensively on stage and album covers, I doubt could possibly feel offended being called that way, it's not like calling Sananda Terence... Wait! Does every one keep talking about Terence Trent D'Arby on the Org? Does anyone makes a fuss that people don't call him Sananda Maitreya? No they don't. No one cares that his name isn't TTD anymore.

This whole anti-symbol campaign is just a biaised, symbolist (as in racist and sexist, but with symbols) campaign is all. If Prince had called himself Robert between 93 and 99, no one would care if people here kept calling him Robert.

Yes he's always been linked to the symbol, but its not his name. He asked to be called Prince again. You can forgive a casual fan for forgetting, but you would except his bigger fans to respect his wishes.

The is no anti symbol campaign (and I don't know how you compare it to racist or sexist?). I was making a particular point with KCOOL because he/she is the biggest hypocrite on the site. On one hand, he/she says we shouldn't listen to bootlegs, because Prince doesn't want us to. On the other, he/she doesn't use the name Prince has expressly asked to be referred as.

I just don't get why anyone (let alone fans) would choose to deliberately call someone by a name that someone asked to no longer be called. Its not something you would normally do, especially if you supposedly like or respect that person and their wishes.

SquirrelMeat said:

databank said:

Given the fact that he keeps using the symbol intensively on stage and album covers, I doubt could possibly feel offended being called that way, it's not like calling Sananda Terence... Wait! Does every one keep talking about Terence Trent D'Arby on the Org? Does anyone makes a fuss that people don't call him Sananda Maitreya? No they don't. No one cares that his name isn't TTD anymore.

This whole anti-symbol campaign is just a biaised, symbolist (as in racist and sexist, but with symbols) campaign is all. If Prince had called himself Robert between 93 and 99, no one would care if people here kept calling him Robert.

Yes he's always been linked to the symbol, but its not his name. He asked to be called Prince again. You can forgive a casual fan for forgetting, but you would except his bigger fans to respect his wishes.

The is no anti symbol campaign (and I don't know how you compare it to racist or sexist?). I was making a particular point with KCOOL because he/she is the biggest hypocrite on the site. On one hand, he/she says we shouldn't listen to bootlegs, because Prince doesn't want us to. On the other, he/she doesn't use the name Prince has expressly asked to be referred as.

I just don't get why anyone (let alone fans) would choose to deliberately call someone by a name that someone asked to no longer be called. Its not something you would normally do, especially if you supposedly like or respect that person and their wishes.

I was pulling ur leg, mostly.

Nevertheless I never ever read someone saying that about TTD and I think he'd be much more pissed by this than P.

I call him (well, called, as my new Indian keyboard doesn't have the ">" on it) just because it's fun and it's also kinda outta respect cuz I thought this namechange was an act of brilliance and I supported it for 6 years when everyone was saying nonsense and making fun of P. I don't remember P ever sayin' "don't ever call me again", I don't have the text of the 2000 press conference in mind but AFAIK it was just "y'all can call me P again cuz now I'm free from WB" (even though I don't really understand how he was more free from WB in 2000 than in 1996 when he released Emancipation???), and even after that he kept crediting the NPGMC tracks from 94-99 to the symbol, so I think P would be OK with that, really

BigChick said:

Brendan said:

BigChick said:

Judith Hills "Back in Time" and how it fits in the cannon of Prince music.

At this juncture and point of time in Prince's career, its easy for me to say i'm really interested in watching Prince more as a producer and songwriter for other artists than solo projects. Like everyone here, we were questioned by who's Judith Hill and why is this record important. I, like most people knew of Judith for being Michael Jacksons main backround singer from the "This is it" tour. She had an oppurtunity to shine. We all know what happened. Going in cold, listening to a new Prince production without any hype behind it is such a breathe of fresh air. So, what is this album ?

As Trains Go By: The album opens with sound of a crackling vinyl, as perhaps to convey the feeling of a lost soul record from the 60’s or 70’s. “Like Cee-Lo Green in a sea of red light. Might as well be famous because I ain’t gonna be white. One way or another I know I’ll be alright. As trains go by. Bedtime’s out of sight.”. The music sounds warm and has a real slow burn funk groove but it’s also dirty and bass heavy. It also recalls the groove and tempo of a track along the lines of “3121”. Judith’s vocals are very strong, soulful incredibly well suited for this type of material. The theme is about being strong in times of social injustice. D’angelo’s “Charade” addressed some of the similar issues but as perhaps in response to that track, Prince as a song writer is more topical with lines such as “How can the chokehold never be on TV. Still be okay with the NYPD”. The line “While Martin sleeps. Brother Malcom is awake” strikes me as no matter who’s sleeping someone is always on guard. “Dreamer” also addressed the issue of not being asleep to reality or taking a blind eye.

Turn Up: This is a really warm, colorful and lively track but also built on more of the tempo of “As Trains Go By”. The bass is even deeper and it recalls the feeling of listening to War or perhaps Sly and the Family Stone. It’s biographical in the sense that it reveals Judith’s background to the listener and her struggles with business. “Straight out of North Holly-fornia. 20 feet away from every star”. Prince shares the vocal duties with Judith trading, switching and swirling between the lines and sometimes together. The chorus is a faster Sly Stone-esque rave up. The chorus recalls muscially “Turn Me Loose” which debuted in 2008, but never officially released. Prince’s comical monologue calling out fake people towards the end of the song is super animated and gave me a big chuckle. The road has been challenging, but theres a pay off if you show and prove.

Angel in the Dark: Perhaps the most modern sounding song production wise. This song could easily fit within the contemporary Zeitgeist of todays pop music. The production and chorus recall the urgency found in a track such as “U Know”. This type of production brings Josh's talents to the table. And I think he did a very good job. The theme of the song seems to be of faith, believing in that “something else” and the strength of the spirit. Finding the light in a large room. Nice lyrical callback to “Something In the Water”

There was a song called “Angel Wish” that made an appearance during a Dj Rashida set back in January 17, 2013 at the Dakota. It could be possible that this song could be a revamped version of that.

Beautiful Life: The song opens with the tickling of piano keys complimented by strings. The arrangement takes it’s time, giving the song a chance to breathe before bringing itself to the chorus.Which is the strong suit of the song. Judith’s vocal stylings are incredibly strong soulful and sung from the heart. Reminds me of "The Love We Make in Spirit". This song is a declaration of joy.

Beautiful Life. This is a really strong track and I hope it proves to be a success for Judith.

Cure: Opens up with some very happy piano reminiscent of “Everybody Wants What They Don’t Got”. The Npg horns uplift with the spirits and give this song a real swing. It’s really full sounding and colorful in musical stylings. Musically a cure for the blues. Short and sweet.

Love Trip: A breezy jazz, late night type of arrangement with a lyrical theme that recalls a more uptempo “Mellow” not only in delivery. Lyrically seductive.”Why don’t U come a little bit closer and let me hypnotize U 2 the rhythm of my heartbeat”. One of my favorite songs on the album. The chorus is delivered in a very playful Cab Calloway “Minnie the Moocher” sort of way. Prince’s repeated chant of “Love trip” with the vocal effects adds a level of trippyness to the scene. I would love to see this song performed live.

My People: Ventures back into the territory found on the first 2 tracks but more accentuated by the NPG horns. This one would be the last song to honestly grow on me. Thats not a bad thing. I just feel I’ve already been here at this point in the album. But it still reinforces themes of the album.

Wild Tonight: Invokes the spirit and sound of the Blackbyrds “Do it, Fluid”. The NPG horns are well utilized and augments the track. This song is really fun, lively and full of energy. Ms. Hill does what she does here.

Prince’s spacey vocals appear toward the end, asking the listener “Don’t U ever wanna go Wild Tonight”. Prince’s delivery is really fun and playful, followed by a voice akin found at the end of “The Gold Standard”

Cry, Cry, Cry:This opens like “Satisfied” but only that observation sells this song short. This track opens up and builds to new levels, exploring more musical terrain. Another great soulful vocal delivery. It invokes the spirit and sound of Aretha Franklin, Gladys Knight and other artists but especially that style of 70’s soul. The chorus is delivered in a pleading type manner and really works well. This is also where perhaps Judith’s talents shine the best on the whole album.

Jammin in the Basement: The song is a jam, so far of the year. Prince is on the keys in a Ray Charles-esque funky sort of way. At the 2:35 mark the NPG horns shine soloing over the incredibly funky foundation that Prince has built. Judith’s performance easily carries this song effortlessly. Perhaps my favorite spot musically on this album. The best recorded usage of the NPG horns so far. This is a really strong closer musically (If thats what it really is)

Back in Time: Whether this 1 second track is an ode to the silence from on Sly Stone’s “There’s A Riot Going On”, or a slight pause to consider back in time music sounded like this. A file error or a track that will soon be revealed when this album becomes available at a retail or download level.

Overall, I think this is a very sucessful project for what its trying to be. I feel this is where Prince is really at right now and musically I really enjoy that. it doesn't give me the sometimes cold feel of "AOA" or "Plectrum Electrum". For an debut artist, this is an incredibly strong record.

Big Chick

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Extremely well done!

Thank You Brendan.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Obviously! The WbR contract wasn't realistic, or 's lawyer wouldn't have found loop holes, to get him out of it. They took TOTAL advantage of like they did other artist....Him signing it was irrelevant.

is the one that emancipated himself from WbR. Not the other way around. GET IT RIGHT!

Okay... he's not responsible for signing a contract that had only one real purpose... to allow him and Warner Brothers to get a little press touting him as extremely important and expensive well after his commercial prime. It's called publicity, and Prince and Warner both got what they initially wanted out of it. He was too shortsighted to realize that it tied him to other obligations. And no, signing a contract isn't "irrelevant"--it's a promise on both parties part to meet their responsibilities. Whether or not the contract's written well enough to force someone to meet them is quite outside the fact that breaking a contract makes it harder to get people to throw in and really support you in the future (because you've shown you're not trustworthy). Which might be part of why no one's been willing to work with him seriously on any releases since then. They're all at best halfhearted short-term commitments from both sides, not just from Prince's. Nobody believes he'll do the work necessary to make their work worthwhile, and releases sink far faster than they should--I'm not claiming he should be topping sales figures for months on end, but he's far less successful commercially than the work the last 20 years really merits.

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And as far as who emancipated themselves from whom... keep believing what you believe KCOOL. I wouldn't know what to think if you were ever influenced by an argument. But there wasn't anybody crying when that door slammed behind P on his way out. When your employee stops working (and you own everything that's gonna make any real money for you already), you're not broken up about them leaving.

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If the new crew at Warner is willing to try again... well, it has been a whole generation since he left. And they thought there was going to be a real chance to go back to the well with remastering projects...but, you know, contracts and promises and how important they are. Prince seems to share your opinion about the significance of putting your name to something... but he should value his own name more than that.

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EddieC said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Obviously! The WbR contract wasn't realistic, or O( > 's lawyer wouldn't have found loop holes, to get him out of it. They took TOTAL advantage of O( > like they did other artist....Him signing it was irrelevant.

O( > is the one that emancipated himself from WbR. Not the other way around. GET IT RIGHT!

Okay... he's not responsible for signing a contract that had only one real purpose... to allow him and Warner Brothers to get a little press touting him as extremely important and expensive well after his commercial prime. It's called publicity, and Prince and Warner both got what they initially wanted out of it. He was too shortsighted to realize that it tied him to other obligations. And no, signing a contract isn't "irrelevant"--it's a promise on both parties part to meet their responsibilities. Whether or not the contract's written well enough to force someone to meet them is quite outside the fact that breaking a contract makes it harder to get people to throw in and really support you in the future (because you've shown you're not trustworthy). Which might be part of why no one's been willing to work with him seriously on any releases since then. They're all at best halfhearted short-term commitments from both sides, not just from Prince's. Nobody believes he'll do the work necessary to make their work worthwhile, and releases sink far faster than they should--I'm not claiming he should be topping sales figures for months on end, but he's far less successful commercially than the work the last 20 years really merits.

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And as far as who emancipated themselves from whom... keep believing what you believe KCOOL. I wouldn't know what to think if you were ever influenced by an argument. But there wasn't anybody crying when that door slammed behind P on his way out. When your employee stops working (and you own everything that's gonna make any real money for you already), you're not broken up about them leaving.

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If the new crew at Warner is willing to try again... well, it has been a whole generation since he left. And they thought there was going to be a real chance to go back to the well with remastering projects...but, you know, contracts and promises and how important they are. Prince seems to share your opinion about the significance of putting your name to something... but he should value his own name more than that.

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That statement right there is one of the reasons, Eye don't care for the majority of the peeps that post here. Because U NEVER give O( > any credit for NOTHING he has accomplished, since he left WBR. It's O( > 's sole decision, when he does business with other labels, what he wants & accepts NOT theirs. Which is OWNING his masters and THEM promoting his projects! They are HONORED to work with a legend. U thinking a label doesn't trust doing business with him only in limitation? That is laughable! O( > runs his own career not them.

O( > 's independence as an artist, since he left WBR in 1995, is the blueprint of EVERY independent artist! He is bowed down to @ EVERY award show appearance & treated as royalty wherever he goes. Because of his courage,strength, and bravery to fight for what he believes in as an artist. He is FREE now to do whatever he wants. He owns his masters, publishing company, MEGA studio complex and label. Case closed!

Oy Vey...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

EddieC said:

Okay... he's not responsible for signing a contract that had only one real purpose... to allow him and Warner Brothers to get a little press touting him as extremely important and expensive well after his commercial prime. It's called publicity, and Prince and Warner both got what they initially wanted out of it. He was too shortsighted to realize that it tied him to other obligations. And no, signing a contract isn't "irrelevant"--it's a promise on both parties part to meet their responsibilities. Whether or not the contract's written well enough to force someone to meet them is quite outside the fact that breaking a contract makes it harder to get people to throw in and really support you in the future (because you've shown you're not trustworthy). Which might be part of why no one's been willing to work with him seriously on any releases since then. They're all at best halfhearted short-term commitments from both sides, not just from Prince's. Nobody believes he'll do the work necessary to make their work worthwhile, and releases sink far faster than they should--I'm not claiming he should be topping sales figures for months on end, but he's far less successful commercially than the work the last 20 years really merits.

.

And as far as who emancipated themselves from whom... keep believing what you believe KCOOL. I wouldn't know what to think if you were ever influenced by an argument. But there wasn't anybody crying when that door slammed behind P on his way out. When your employee stops working (and you own everything that's gonna make any real money for you already), you're not broken up about them leaving.

.

If the new crew at Warner is willing to try again... well, it has been a whole generation since he left. And they thought there was going to be a real chance to go back to the well with remastering projects...but, you know, contracts and promises and how important they are. Prince seems to share your opinion about the significance of putting your name to something... but he should value his own name more than that.

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That statement right there is one of the reasons, Eye don't care for the majority of the peeps that post here. Because U NEVER give O( > any credit for NOTHING he has accomplished, since he left WBR. It's O( > 's sole decision, when he does business with other labels, what he wants & accepts NOT theirs. Which is OWNING his masters and THEM promoting his projects! They are HONORED to work with a legend. U thinking a label doesn't trust doing business with him only in limitation? That is laughable! O( > runs his own career not them.

O( > 's independence as an artist, since he left WBR in 1995, is the blueprint of EVERY independent artist! He is bowed down to @ EVERY award show appearance & treated as royalty wherever he goes. Because of his courage,strength, and bravery to fight for what he believes in as an artist. He is FREE now to do whatever he wants. He owns his masters, publishing company, MEGA studio complex and label. Case closed!

All right. I think Prince's music should have more commercial success than it does because I think it's good--and somehow that means I give him no credit? As far as his being a blueprint for independent artists... only as far as being independent. Nobody follows his model as far as specifics, because he has no model. He has to restart every single time, and still seems to have learned nothing about efficiently handling his affairs.

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People bow down to him at award shows because of his art, not because of his business.

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However, I cede the floor to those who are discussing the Judith Hill album from an art standpoint.

Looking forward to the Tata Vega and Darlene Love follow-up albums.

Wait, what do you mean they're too old for a free download album?....

A Beautiful Life and Angel in the Dark could easily be huge radio hits if Prince's name wasn't attached... the lyrics clearly indicate they weren't written by Prince they are simply too mature

I really like this record. Prince when he is inspired does still have some magic. I could do without the funk jams because they aren't finished. A singer the caliber of Judith deserves a more finished product but the other songs are mature.... very nice. Not Adele tight but a start in that direction

Its nice

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Hey, looks like Hill might tour with Prince............like I suggested earlier! This would be cool.

3rdeyedude said:

Hey, looks like Hill might tour with Prince............like I suggested earlier! This would be cool.

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How much different would this be from the Tamar thing in 2006 or so?

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

EddieC said:

Okay... he's not responsible for signing a contract that had only one real purpose... to allow him and Warner Brothers to get a little press touting him as extremely important and expensive well after his commercial prime. It's called publicity, and Prince and Warner both got what they initially wanted out of it. He was too shortsighted to realize that it tied him to other obligations. And no, signing a contract isn't "irrelevant"--it's a promise on both parties part to meet their responsibilities. Whether or not the contract's written well enough to force someone to meet them is quite outside the fact that breaking a contract makes it harder to get people to throw in and really support you in the future (because you've shown you're not trustworthy). Which might be part of why no one's been willing to work with him seriously on any releases since then. They're all at best halfhearted short-term commitments from both sides, not just from Prince's. Nobody believes he'll do the work necessary to make their work worthwhile, and releases sink far faster than they should--I'm not claiming he should be topping sales figures for months on end, but he's far less successful commercially than the work the last 20 years really merits.

.

And as far as who emancipated themselves from whom... keep believing what you believe KCOOL. I wouldn't know what to think if you were ever influenced by an argument. But there wasn't anybody crying when that door slammed behind P on his way out. When your employee stops working (and you own everything that's gonna make any real money for you already), you're not broken up about them leaving.

.

If the new crew at Warner is willing to try again... well, it has been a whole generation since he left. And they thought there was going to be a real chance to go back to the well with remastering projects...but, you know, contracts and promises and how important they are. Prince seems to share your opinion about the significance of putting your name to something... but he should value his own name more than that.

.

That statement right there is one of the reasons, Eye don't care for the majority of the peeps that post here. Because U NEVER give O( > any credit for NOTHING he has accomplished, since he left WBR. It's O( > 's sole decision, when he does business with other labels, what he wants & accepts NOT theirs. Which is OWNING his masters and THEM promoting his projects! They are HONORED to work with a legend. U thinking a label doesn't trust doing business with him only in limitation? That is laughable! O( > runs his own career not them.

O( > 's independence as an artist, since he left WBR in 1995, is the blueprint of EVERY independent artist! He is bowed down to @ EVERY award show appearance & treated as royalty wherever he goes. Because of his courage,strength, and bravery to fight for what he believes in as an artist. He is FREE now to do whatever he wants. He owns his masters, publishing company, MEGA studio complex and label. Case closed!

CLASSIC Kcool

antonb said:

Well it looks like she will be the support act, hopefully doing away with the daft 2shows a night.

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ooo, that'd be nice! Fingers crossed...

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or maybe we'll get two prince & 3rdeyegirl & judith hill shows per night, where the short setlist is split between judith hill songs, plectrum electrum songs, and a prince sampler set

udo said:

3rdeyedude said:

Hey, looks like Hill might tour with Prince............like I suggested earlier! This would be cool.

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How much different would this be from the Tamar thing in 2006 or so?

Not much except Judith had her album actually released

udo said:

3rdeyedude said:

Hey, looks like Hill might tour with Prince............like I suggested earlier! This would be cool.

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How much different would this be from the Tamar thing in 2006 or so?

Judith's already proved that she can appeal to the mass public and has her own fan base at this point. She has more followers than Liv and Liv's been at it much longer.

bigd74 said:

Not much except Judith had her album actually released

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There appear to be actual Tamar CD's.

For Judith's music we had a download over which there is a dispute now.

Not much except Judith had her album actually released

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Info on this album -- http://www.princevault.co...ck_In_Time

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Tamar did release a anbum in 2011 -- http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography

By the way Prince has said he dislike music contest shows. Why would he record an album with a contestant from one?

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kbarso said:

Tamar did release a anbum in 2011 -- http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography

By the way Prince has said he dislike music contest shows. Why would he record an album with a contestant from one?

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Because she actually has talent.

Most people from those shows are marginal at best.

r the versions on the spike lee soundtrack that much different?