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Printablegemini13 said: txladykat said: depends on the entire context. We don't condone racial comments, and extremely foul language. Depending on the entire content of the post it can either be deleted or just bleeped out. Well then, darlin', I have a problem with your site too. WHAT is WRONG with you people? You can't say fuck anymore? This is ridiculous. like I said, depends on the context of the entire statement. | |
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gemini13 said: txladykat said: depends on the entire context. We don't condone racial comments, and extremely foul language. Depending on the entire content of the post it can either be deleted or just bleeped out. Well then, darlin', I have a problem with your site too. WHAT is WRONG with you people? You can't say fuck anymore? This is ridiculous. I don't know what's wrong with 'em! I've never said no to a good "fuck"!  | |
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Hi everyone. I've been a member here for years, but only as a lurker. I've been a devout fan of Prince's since 1982 and I've also been defending him for years, but no more. Everyone has their limits and this is mine. 25 years and I'm out! I can't think of a single logical reason why he would do this.
We are the ones who have enabled him to live the life that he leads. Without his fans where would he be? In a way, it's our fault that we're being sued, because without our money he couldn't afford to do this. I propose a ban on all Prince related material; audio and otherwise. Let's not continue to fund our own demise. Long live PFU!!! | |
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again, depends on the context. | |
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jlmom said: Hi everyone. I've been a member here for years, but only as a lurker. I've been a devout fan of Prince's since 1982 and I've also been defending him for years, but no more. Everyone has their limits and this is mine. 25 years and I'm out! I can't think of a single logical reason why he would do this.
We are the ones who have enabled him to live the life that he leads. Without his fans where would he be? In a way, it's our fault that we're being sued, because without our money he couldn't afford to do this. I propose a ban on all Prince related material; audio and otherwise. Let's not continue to fund our own demise. Long live PFU!!! It's like America funding the war on terror by jonesing so much for gas that we will pay terrrorist states for it and fund their own fight against us in the process!  [Edited 11/7/07 19:33pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Am I the only one turned massively on by Supa's fierceness?
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2the9s said: Am I the only one turned massively on by Supa's fierceness?
Dude, I have brawled in drag! People should be afraid 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: jlmom said: Hi everyone. I've been a member here for years, but only as a lurker. I've been a devout fan of Prince's since 1982 and I've also been defending him for years, but no more. Everyone has their limits and this is mine. 25 years and I'm out! I can't think of a single logical reason why he would do this.
We are the ones who have enabled him to live the life that he leads. Without his fans where would he be? In a way, it's our fault that we're being sued, because without our money he couldn't afford to do this. I propose a ban on all Prince related material; audio and otherwise. Let's not continue to fund our own demise. Long live PFU!!! It's like America funding the war on terror by jonesing so much for gas that we will pay terrrorist states for it and fund their own fight against us in the process!
[Edited 11/7/07 19:33pm] SAD but TRUE! | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: 2the9s said: Am I the only one turned massively on by Supa's fierceness?
Dude, I have brawled in drag! People should be afraid I sooooo want to see you again. | |
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gemini13 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Dude, I have brawled in drag! People should be afraid I sooooo want to see you again. Me too! All this tag teaming has me missing you like a motherfucker!
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2the9s said: Am I the only one turned massively on by Supa's fierceness?
Nope!  | |
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Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: 2the9s said: Am I the only one turned massively on by Supa's fierceness?
Nope! 
OMG, can you imagine me defending the sites at the Supreme court? It might be like that opening scene to Kill Bill. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Nope!
OMG, can you imagine me defending the sites at the Supreme court? It might be like that opening scene to Kill Bill. LMAO! Let me have the Web Sheriff though! I like turning bullies into bitches!  [Edited 11/7/07 20:01pm] | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:
OMG, can you imagine me defending the sites at the Supreme court? It might be like that opening scene to Kill Bill. LMAO! Let me have the Web Sheriff though! I like turning bullies into bitches!
[Edited 11/7/07 20:01pm] You can do the Eye scene!  Or would you rather scalp em?
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txladykat said: WS sent a DMCA to prince.org's ISP. In that DMCA notice they alleged that certain materials were violating copyright of Prince/NPG/AEG. A DMCA notice requires you to identify the materials you allege to be infringing. In the DMCA notice WS included pictures of people with their tatoos, license plates, etc.
Ben responded appropriately to the DMCA notice specifically stating that (and I quote) "there are certainly MANY images in the list provided that were taken by members of the site and don't include Prince etc (i.e. picture #10 is a picture of a fan's car, taken by the fan, but there are MANY more examples)." As someone pointed out, we cannot post the entire letter. Even if we could, it would take up about 10 pages to post the letter because WS has a entire laundry list of the images he claims were infringing which include, as pointed out by Ben, invidual pictures of fans, their tatoos, their cars, etc. Hope this sheds some light. The main criteria is for web sheriff to prove who owns the intellectual property rights on each and every picture or image they are stating breaches their clients rights There is a burden of proof to be satisfied legally Pictures taken or images made by fans belong intellectually to the taker of the picture or the maker of the image I would also demand proof that web sheriff do, in fact, act for who they say they do Without signed letters of authority to act on a clients behalf they effectively have no power In the past I have acted for people and usually obtain a power of attorney limited to the specific task in hand If this matter ends up in court, you can always subpoena the artist concerned to give, under oath, the reasons they feel they have been libelled, defamed, or their reputation has suffered in any way I would be more than interested to hear how a license plate or a tattoo on a fan damages the reputation of an artist All these points at the moment are moot though The claim of copyright on the email is dubious to say the least, and the attempts to claim intellectual ownership of other peoples property built on foundations of sand Certainly under UK law, from the opinions I have had, the demands to remove images etc that belong to others would not get anywhere Let me guess, the ISP that was served is US based? | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SexyBeautifulOne said: LMAO! Let me have the Web Sheriff though! I like turning bullies into bitches!
[Edited 11/7/07 20:01pm] You can do the Eye scene! Or would you rather scalp em?
Oooooh, nice. The eye scene! | |
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gemini13 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You can do the Eye scene! Or would you rather scalp em?
Oooooh, nice. The eye scene! Karla, I see you taking on the 88  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SexyBeautifulOne said: LMAO! Let me have the Web Sheriff though! I like turning bullies into bitches!
[Edited 11/7/07 20:01pm] You can do the Eye scene! Or would you rather scalp em?
Hmmm, scalp 'em definitely! In honor of the last "new frontier" that was bombarded with self appointed Sheriffs!  | |
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Markland said: txladykat said: WS sent a DMCA to prince.org's ISP. In that DMCA notice they alleged that certain materials were violating copyright of Prince/NPG/AEG. A DMCA notice requires you to identify the materials you allege to be infringing. In the DMCA notice WS included pictures of people with their tatoos, license plates, etc.
Ben responded appropriately to the DMCA notice specifically stating that (and I quote) "there are certainly MANY images in the list provided that were taken by members of the site and don't include Prince etc (i.e. picture #10 is a picture of a fan's car, taken by the fan, but there are MANY more examples)." As someone pointed out, we cannot post the entire letter. Even if we could, it would take up about 10 pages to post the letter because WS has a entire laundry list of the images he claims were infringing which include, as pointed out by Ben, invidual pictures of fans, their tatoos, their cars, etc. Hope this sheds some light. The main criteria is for web sheriff to prove who owns the intellectual property rights on each and every picture or image they are stating breaches their clients rights There is a burden of proof to be satisfied legally Pictures taken or images made by fans belong intellectually to the taker of the picture or the maker of the image I would also demand proof that web sheriff do, in fact, act for who they say they do Without signed letters of authority to act on a clients behalf they effectively have no power In the past I have acted for people and usually obtain a power of attorney limited to the specific task in hand If this matter ends up in court, you can always subpoena the artist concerned to give, under oath, the reasons they feel they have been libelled, defamed, or their reputation has suffered in any way I would be more than interested to hear how a license plate or a tattoo on a fan damages the reputation of an artist All these points at the moment are moot though The claim of copyright on the email is dubious to say the least, and the attempts to claim intellectual ownership of other peoples property built on foundations of sand Certainly under UK law, from the opinions I have had, the demands to remove images etc that belong to others would not get anywhere Let me guess, the ISP that was served is US based? yep, and as you can see the pics are still here  | |
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Markland said: I would also demand proof that web sheriff do, in fact, act for who they say they do Without signed letters of authority to act on a clients behalf they effectively have no power Ding! Ding! Ding! That's what I want to see!! Web Sheriff? Where's my email? | |
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txladykat said: yep, and as you can see the pics are still here Going for website uplinks is an old tactic The results usually depend on how knowledgable and robust the ISP or uplink is looks like in this case thankfully the ISP didnt just cave in as many do What does surprise me is why Prince doesnt seem to have any trademarks registered for music, live performances, clothing, cd's, dvd's etc Not within the european union anyway I checked the patents office website and cant find anything The trademark for t shirts actually belongs to a US sports company That technically means that any t shirts with the word "prince" on it would infringe the trademark of that company thereby breaching the Trademarks Act 1994 if produced without that companies permission Anyway, it appears that all claims on his behalf or those of the other parties mentioned are based on copyright Copyright offers nowhere near the legal protection afforded by trademarks With commissioned artwork such as album covers or commissioned photographs there is no doubt over ownership Where the lines do start getting fuzzy is over adapted or altered images etc and photographs taken by private persons It will be interesting to see where all of this goes Has there been a response from the artists concerned yet as web sheriff indicated? | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: gemini13 said: Oooooh, nice. The eye scene! Karla, I see you taking on the 88  | |
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Markland said: txladykat said: yep, and as you can see the pics are still here Going for website uplinks is an old tactic The results usually depend on how knowledgable and robust the ISP or uplink is looks like in this case thankfully the ISP didnt just cave in as many do What does surprise me is why Prince doesnt seem to have any trademarks registered for music, live performances, clothing, cd's, dvd's etc Not within the european union anyway I checked the patents office website and cant find anything The trademark for t shirts actually belongs to a US sports company That technically means that any t shirts with the word "prince" on it would infringe the trademark of that company thereby breaching the Trademarks Act 1994 if produced without that companies permission Anyway, it appears that all claims on his behalf or those of the other parties mentioned are based on copyright Copyright offers nowhere near the legal protection afforded by trademarks With commissioned artwork such as album covers or commissioned photographs there is no doubt over ownership Where the lines do start getting fuzzy is over adapted or altered images etc and photographs taken by private persons It will be interesting to see where all of this goes Has there been a response from the artists concerned yet as web sheriff indicated? Not officially, no. I read somewhere earlier that WS was sending emails to PFU stating that they wanted some post supposedly from Prince put on the PFU site. I tried looking through the 1200+ posts for it but my eyes got tired somewhere in the 600's but I'm sure if happened someone over here would have posted it. | |
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not yet mark. | |
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This is just fucking sad. FUCKING SAD. Prince is a nut. The people here defending his actions are even bigger nuts.
What kind of an artist discourages people from discussing his/her work? Ridiculous. Bite your fans in the ass, my friend, bite them right in the ass. That's the thanks they get for buying your shit all these years. As a native Minnesotan, I have always been very proud that Prince is our hometown star. Right now, I feel absolutely disgusted. What a selfish, greedy, narrow-minded prig he is. Repeat: FUCKING SAD. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: This is just fucking sad. FUCKING SAD. Prince is a nut. The people here defending his actions are even bigger nuts.
What kind of an artist discourages people from discussing his/her work? Ridiculous. Bite your fans in the ass, my friend, bite them right in the ass. That's the thanks they get for buying your shit all these years. As a native Minnesotan, I have always been very proud that Prince is our hometown star. Right now, I feel absolutely disgusted. What a selfish, greedy, narrow-minded prig he is. Repeat: FUCKING SAD. I don't understand how ANYONE could defend Prince, with all this shit that he's doing to his fans. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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SAUSAGEMAN!!!!!
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: 2the9s said: Am I the only one turned massively on by Supa's fierceness?
Dude, I have brawled in drag! People should be afraid Did you ever get your butt kicked? being in a brawl doesn't mean winning the brawl! I avoid physical settling of arguements, since I'm 4'10". That's where attorneys come in.....kinda like P...although I understand he kicked Sinead's ass...deprived her of a ride home..... 
Mental cruelty goes alot further than physical interactions...hmmmm | |
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xplnyrslf said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Dude, I have brawled in drag! People should be afraid Did you ever get your butt kicked? being in a brawl doesn't mean winning the brawl! I avoid physical settling of arguements, since I'm 4'10". That's where attorneys come in.....kinda like P...although I understand he kicked Sinead's ass...deprived her of a ride home.....
Mental cruelty goes alot further than physical interactions...hmmmm well no, not usually but I sure as hell wasn't gonna let someone hit my ass without putting a scar on their ass 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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