fnksoul said:

I have little to no interest in travelling from Manchester to Birmingham/London to stand in a Queue all day in November/December, what a way to ruin your day.

To top it off Andy Allo just cancelled her Manchester show.

If it's to be queuing, he can shove it up his arse as far as I'm concerned.

[Edited 11/13/15 3:13am]

antonb said:

so make an annoucement then, when it might be possible to buy the bloody tickets, a picture of a vulture does nothing for me. We are going to go from long interviews about not making enough money anymore to being a hero of the people against touts. I carnt wait!

Serious said:

Stranger said:

He is looking out for the true fans so I think we should be happy about that. The sale will happen in a different way. Patience.

Did you wait in the cold for 3 hours until 6 am and were number 9 in line and have no idea if you will get a ticket when the sale will start another time ?

oh fuck! I feel terrible for you did you aim for the 300€ range?


I'm not yet convinced I desperately need to go, we said we'll simply try our luck online at 9:00 for the "cheap" seats an see what we can get. but if it won't work, so be it.
and now, as it seems, it didn't work 't

Whilst I am all for getting rid of the scumbag touts there are far better ways already mentioned instead of putting fans through queuing at the venue FFS !!

PREDOMINANT said:

This makes no sense. 2 tickets per person, same card and photo ID, how can a tout buy a 100 and sell them at a marked up price?

Yeah, no sense at all. The ticket limits and conditions, and the T&C that any resold tickets will be cancelled pretty much busts the touts already.

If the ticket doesn't match the ID, you don't get in. Simple. and already stated as in place.

This already makes it impossible for people to buy tickets to give to genuine fans as gifts, so surely will stop the scalpers.

Looks like Prince has outed Ticketmaster as Touts on Twitter right now

I wonder what they think of that as a business !!!

ThePartyman said:

PREDOMINANT said:

This makes no sense. 2 tickets per person, same card and photo ID, how can a tout buy a 100 and sell them at a marked up price?

Yeah, no sense at all. The ticket limits and conditions, and the T&C that any resold tickets will be cancelled pretty much busts the touts already.

If the ticket doesn't match the ID, you don't get in. Simple. and already stated as in place.

This already makes it impossible for people to buy tickets to give to genuine fans as gifts, so surely will stop the scalpers.

An example from Germany:

Tickets for the shows will exclusively be sold personalized. Personalized means, that every single ticket is bounded to one person who is mentioned by name on it. Special limitation: only 4 tickets per person may be purchased per show.
Personalization of tickets as well as the limitation of the number of purchasable tickets takes place for causes of fairness and to avoid a secondary ticket market on which tickets often are offered to excessively inflated prices. Through this special and conscious regulation of pre-sale all fans should been given the opportunity to purchase tickets at fair prices.
The official online ticket pre-sale is handled exclusively by www.kraftwerk.tickets.de. All other ticket providers offering tickets for sale are NON AUTHORIZED sellers.

To be fair to Prince, the ticket market is control, with Ticketmaster owning getmein and seatwave, they have bascially become legalised touts themselves.

I like to see him take this on, rather than record labels.

What's the bet we'll get TidalTix soon?

egansmind said:

Looks like Prince has outed Ticketmaster as Touts on Twitter right now

I wonder what they think of that as a business !!!

Well they should be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves. It's totally their fault and they're greedy. They won't give two shits in reality.

ThePartyman said:

PREDOMINANT said:

This makes no sense. 2 tickets per person, same card and photo ID, how can a tout buy a 100 and sell them at a marked up price?

Yeah, no sense at all. The ticket limits and conditions, and the T&C that any resold tickets will be cancelled pretty much busts the touts already.

If the ticket doesn't match the ID, you don't get in. Simple. and already stated as in place.

This already makes it impossible for people to buy tickets to give to genuine fans as gifts, so surely will stop the scalpers.

I have been to concerts where this has been the claim, but touts are still selling tickets, and no one at teh venue are actually checking id's. So i guess its hard to enforce.

Stranger said:

Serious said:

Did you wait in the cold for 3 hours until 6 am and were number 9 in line and have no idea if you will get a ticket when the sale will start another time ?

No, I did not mate, and I am sorry you had to experience that. I do not believe it was Prince's intention either, it must have been the fact that scalpers had got hold of tickets before the pre-sale that kicked this off, I believe.

I am a woman ... that is me on my avatar
But Prince sure knew that people were waiting in line and it was to be foreseen that scalpers exist.

Like i said, its fine to take on the touts whatever, put your army of lawyers on it , just not F**king now!

antonb said:

Trying to stop ticket touts is fine, but do it , before you advertise to do a tour and put tickets nearly up for sale! Its up to whoever runs this system to sort it out. We the working punters get messed about again. People like me skipping work etc in the hope of seeing a bloody concert! Sort the problem out in your own time.

This!

Why is this always happening with Prince is what I wanna know?? No other artist or band has the same problem!!! Last weekend I went to the 02 to see The Dave Matthews Band in concert, they very rarely come over here to the UK, booked tix about 2 months before gig, the paper tickets arrived by courier 2 weeks before gig, went to gig, no problem!!!

Why is everything always a constant drama with Prince???

HYPE - he is the master of hype, that's why!

blackbob said:

JOYJOY said:

Do you have a link to this info bob?

was reported in a tweet that the vienna ticket office told a fan that the reason for the postponement of ticket sales was touts already selling them for thousands..

[Edited 11/13/15 3:08am]

I don't believe that somebody from the venue gave that information. We people waiting in line were told in an announcement that Prince had it stopped because he wanted to start the sale for the whole tour one time.

SquirrelMeat said:

To be fair to Prince, the ticket market is control, with Ticketmaster owning getmein and seatwave, they have bascially become legalised touts themselves.

I like to see him take this on, rather than record labels.

What's the bet we'll get TidalTix soon?

agree...i am prepared to put up with getting annoyed about the ticket postponement if he tells these c**ts to feck off...no excuse that they are making money on the side out of desperate fans....its been going on for years and its time something was done about it..

Serious said:

Stranger said:

No, I did not mate, and I am sorry you had to experience that. I do not believe it was Prince's intention either, it must have been the fact that scalpers had got hold of tickets before the pre-sale that kicked this off, I believe.

I am a woman ... that is me on my avatar
But Prince sure knew that people were waiting in line and it was to be foreseen that scalpers exist.

I don't buy the scalpers line either. Man has been doing this for thirty years, he knows the buisness. I think he has jumped on this as an excuse, or maybe as a way to generate interest, in his noble one man march upon the evils of the music industry, or just to make people care. Good publicity.

So if Ticketmaster itself is a tout, so why seling Tickets over Ticketmaster?

From recent experiences of buying tickets I think he just needs to find the right ticket agent. One that doesn't supply them straight to touts.

I don't know what Ticketmaster get up to, but they even promote their own secondary selling website on their ticket page!!... It's virtually impossible to buy tickets on their site whenever I've tried.

Someone like Seetickets seem to be much better... and sold tickets recently for Banksy's Dismaland without too much trouble (and they were a tout's dream for £3 each!)

Dancelot said:

Serious said:

Did you wait in the cold for 3 hours until 6 am and were number 9 in line and have no idea if you will get a ticket when the sale will start another time ?

oh fuck! I feel terrible for you did you aim for the 300€ range?


I'm not yet convinced I desperately need to go, we said we'll simply try our luck online at 9:00 for the "cheap" seats an see what we can get. but if it won't work, so be it.
and now, as it seems, it didn't work 't

As I was the 9th person in line yes I would have gotten those because it would have been great seats as some of the people in front of me only wanted 2 or 3 tickets.

Chasing said:

HYPE - he is the master of hype, that's why!

he could sell these tickets ten times over..doubt he needs any more hype...it may make it harder now to get tickets if this goes in the media though..

feranti said:

Serious said:

I am a woman ... that is me on my avatar
But Prince sure knew that people were waiting in line and it was to be foreseen that scalpers exist.

I don't buy the scalpers line either. Man has been doing this for thirty years, he knows the buisness. I think he has jumped on this as an excuse, or maybe as a way to generate interest, in his noble one man march upon the evils of the music industry, or just to make people care. Good publicity.

Yes, he seemed ok with selling last year's gigs through Ticketmaster but not now ?????

At least he is trending on Twitter and got some free publicitiy

Seetickets and gigsandtours are the same firm (SJM Concerts) and they have close ties with Ticketmaster. Its one big scam.

Even stubhub (ebay) seems dodgy. Once they carved of the tickets on ebay, prices started going through the roof.

Whatever his beef is let's put aside. But I do have issue pulling out minutes before the sale. People have planned their day around it and now the result is uncertaincy and, as someone said earlier, no tickets.

feranti said:

Serious said:

I am a woman ... that is me on my avatar
But Prince sure knew that people were waiting in line and it was to be foreseen that scalpers exist.

I don't buy the scalpers line either. Man has been doing this for thirty years, he knows the buisness. I think he has jumped on this as an excuse, or maybe as a way to generate interest, in his noble one man march upon the evils of the music industry, or just to make people care. Good publicity.

no..i believe him on this one...maybe he was taken aback by the number of tickets that were in the touts hands this time...but these types of gigs are a touts dream because the demand is soo high...they can make a fortune..

H-Y-P-E

jcurley said:

Can someone explain how this works please. How do touts get to own block tickets before general release and even then? I simply don't get it

Ticket agencies own the touting sites. They sell them through the touting sites rather than the regular site, at inflated prices, before the public even gets a chance to buy them.