independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Concerts > Prince Headlining Rally 4 Peace Concert in Baltimore!
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 5 of 14 <123456789>Last »

This is a "featured" topic! — From here you can jump to the « previous or next » featured topic.

  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #120 posted 05/07/15 11:14am

fusk

man, that artwork is awful...

.

This whole thing is very lame. Prince is doing almost the exact same thing he's been doing for the past while and has pasted "Rally 4 Peace" on top. What's disheartening about this is that Prince's "business as usual" really seems optimized for maximum profits and minimum commitment.

.

There's a party at Paisley Park, it seems to be the same as usual. $30 cover.

.

There's a show with short notice, expensive tickets, and (free?) promotion via local news stations.

.

The only functional difference between this show and other recent shows is that a "portion" of the proceeds go to charity. I dunno, I can't really criticize him on this because I don't know what he gives behind the scenes, but having an undisclosed amount of ticket sales go to charity always struck me as being the "cost-effective" way for a musician to boost his/her reputation.

.

I don't live in Baltimore, I don't know what Baltimore needs, but I don't think a Prince concert is particularly helpful. It's helpful for Prince's reputation, maybe, if he doesn't get too much backlash from people like me who think this show is laaaaaaaame.

.

I strongly suspect the reason we haven't heard the Baltimore song is because Prince hasn't worked out a way to monetize it yet (ie. make that Tidal deal happen). But he made sure that we knew he wrote the song. How does this help anyone at all except Prince? It's not like Prince is the guy shining a light on the situation in Baltimore, the people of Baltimore didn't need Prince's help to make themselves heard. I guess it's important for as many people as possible to show solidarity, but there are ways to do that that seem less self-serving...

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #121 posted 05/07/15 11:29am

herb4

fusk said:

man, that artwork is awful...

Huh. I rather like it. When I first saw the AOA cover I said you could practically draw Prince using nothing but circles these days. And there it is. What don't you like about it?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #122 posted 05/07/15 11:43am

thanks2joniand
u

I love the artwork, too.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #123 posted 05/07/15 11:46am

HatrinaHaterwi
tz

avatar

fusk said:

man, that artwork is awful...

.

This whole thing is very lame. Prince is doing almost the exact same thing he's been doing for the past while and has pasted "Rally 4 Peace" on top. What's disheartening about this is that Prince's "business as usual" really seems optimized for maximum profits and minimum commitment.

.

There's a party at Paisley Park, it seems to be the same as usual. $30 cover.

.

There's a show with short notice, expensive tickets, and (free?) promotion via local news stations.

.

The only functional difference between this show and other recent shows is that a "portion" of the proceeds go to charity. I dunno, I can't really criticize him on this because I don't know what he gives behind the scenes, but having an undisclosed amount of ticket sales go to charity always struck me as being the "cost-effective" way for a musician to boost his/her reputation.

.

I don't live in Baltimore, I don't know what Baltimore needs, but I don't think a Prince concert is particularly helpful. It's helpful for Prince's reputation, maybe, if he doesn't get too much backlash from people like me who think this show is laaaaaaaame.

.

I strongly suspect the reason we haven't heard the Baltimore song is because Prince hasn't worked out a way to monetize it yet (ie. make that Tidal deal happen). But he made sure that we knew he wrote the song. How does this help anyone at all except Prince? It's not like Prince is the guy shining a light on the situation in Baltimore, the people of Baltimore didn't need Prince's help to make themselves heard. I guess it's important for as many people as possible to show solidarity, but there are ways to do that that seem less self-serving...

I totally agree with you. Now there's tweets stating "Let's help Prince come up with a list of his most politically-charged songs 2 be played at the Peace Rally on Sunday." That just screams that no actual planning has really gone into this, at all. disbelief

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #124 posted 05/07/15 11:49am

fusk

it looks amateur to me in a way that really gets under my skin. As a teenager I might have made it and thought it was soooo cooool. As an adult, even thinking about that scenario makes me cringe with embarassment.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #125 posted 05/07/15 11:51am

fusk

my hatred of the artwork is definitely a personal issue. If you guys like it, that's fine. I'll just be over here working out my neuroses...

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #126 posted 05/07/15 11:59am

3rdeyedude

avatar

Rolling Stone has an article about the concert. I was reading the comments section. The funniest one was this..."Have you ever been to a Prince concert? It's a bunch of middle aged white and asian housewives drinking Bud Light reliving their youth."

here is the article: http://www.rollingstone.c...e-20150506

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #127 posted 05/07/15 12:02pm

motherfunka

avatar

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

$22.00 is not high. For the ones who say they sold out of those. At least prince set aside specially priced tickets for the underprivileged people. Give him some credit for that. rolleyes

I agree $22 is not high at all. A hot dog at the concert will probably cost that much. However, to say that Prince set aside specially priced tickets for the underprivileged people is pushing it. When people went to buy tickets online, I don't think there was a selection that said "if you're poor, get your tickets here". lol

TRUE BLUE
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #128 posted 05/07/15 12:04pm

lezama

avatar

LittlePurpleYoda said:

lezama said:

Regardless of recent charts, Prince is still one of the worlds biggest touring acts, and that's regardless of how many angry orgers there are in the world. And as others have mentioned, there are far better ways of making money than one off shows very randomly when he could be making more than 10 times the money with a full tour.

.

As with a few other high ticket performances he's played on a one off basis in conjunction with Van Jones's Rebuild the Dream --Chicago, New Orleans-- his motivation for the shows was actually political, not because he needed the attention or money, but because he was helping Van raise money for the YesWeCode project.

.

And regarding yourspeculations about motives, I'm all for being skeptical when things don't add up, and certainly in the past there've been things with Prince where there was motive to be skeptical, but in each case you don't go from wild speculation to skepticism, you go from a sound analysis of facts and from THERE one should feel free to speculate if the facts don't add up. That way you don't start saying things that make you look completely silly and misinformed.

"Regardless of recent charts, Prince is still one of the worlds biggest touring acts, and that's regardless of how many angry orgers there are in the world."

The same can be said of Jimmy Buffett.

"And as others have mentioned, there are far better ways of making money than one off shows very randomly when he could be making more than 10 times the money with a full tour."

Unfortunately, what can be said of Jimmy Buffett here, cannot be said of Prince, unless he's opened a massively successful chain of restaurants & resorts I haven't heard about? Nope? Didn't think so. Just a string of one-off concerts. And as some have pointed out, they haven't been as successful in recent years as you want to think.

"And regarding yourspeculations about motives, I'm all for being skeptical when things don't add up, and certainly in the past there've been things with Prince where there was motive to be skeptical, but in each case you don't go from wild speculation to skepticism, you go from a sound analysis of facts and from THERE one should feel free to speculate if the facts don't add up. That way you don't start saying things that make you look completely silly and misinformed."

Look at the ticket prices. Who is the audience? Affluent white people & the drug kingpins of Baltimore? What sort of cause is Prince trying to rally?

Jimmy Buffett concerts are announced well in advance, as are 99% of every other major artist in the world. You're comparing apples to oranges. Compare Prince to someone else who does this particular concert strategy.

.

Regarding the audience, there are two different strategies one could focus on.. one that focuses on giving something experiential to the neglected populations of west baltimore, another that focuses on giving financial resources to community organizations serving that population. To reach either of those goals you have to chose different strategies, trying to combine the two just dilutes the results of both.

Change it one more time..
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #129 posted 05/07/15 12:07pm

V10LETBLUES

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



fusk said:


man, that artwork is awful...


.


This whole thing is very lame. Prince is doing almost the exact same thing he's been doing for the past while and has pasted "Rally 4 Peace" on top. What's disheartening about this is that Prince's "business as usual" really seems optimized for maximum profits and minimum commitment.


.


There's a party at Paisley Park, it seems to be the same as usual. $30 cover.


.


There's a show with short notice, expensive tickets, and (free?) promotion via local news stations.


.


The only functional difference between this show and other recent shows is that a "portion" of the proceeds go to charity. I dunno, I can't really criticize him on this because I don't know what he gives behind the scenes, but having an undisclosed amount of ticket sales go to charity always struck me as being the "cost-effective" way for a musician to boost his/her reputation.


.


I don't live in Baltimore, I don't know what Baltimore needs, but I don't think a Prince concert is particularly helpful. It's helpful for Prince's reputation, maybe, if he doesn't get too much backlash from people like me who think this show is laaaaame.


.


I strongly suspect the reason we haven't heard the Baltimore song is because Prince hasn't worked out a way to monetize it yet (ie. make that Tidal deal happen). But he made sure that we knew he wrote the song. How does this help anyone at all except Prince? It's not like Prince is the guy shining a light on the situation in Baltimore, the people of Baltimore didn't need Prince's help to make themselves heard. I guess it's important for as many people as possible to show solidarity, but there are ways to do that that seem less self-serving...



I totally agree with you. Now there's tweets stating "Let's help Prince come up with a list of his most politically-charged songs 2 be played at the Peace Rally on Sunday." That just screams that no actual planning has really gone into this, at all. disbelief



Lol, it's not like people plan for riot concerts, is there a protocol? Lol.

How well can a spur of the moment gesture of good will towards an unexpected full blown riot be planed? C'mon, people are now going out of their way to being asses here.
[Edited 5/7/15 12:10pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #130 posted 05/07/15 12:10pm

herb4

3rdeyedude said:

Rolling Stone has an article about the concert. I was reading the comments section. The funniest one was this..."Have you ever been to a Prince concert? It's a bunch of middle aged white and asian housewives drinking Bud Light reliving their youth."

here is the article: http://www.rollingstone.c...e-20150506

Except that this is not true at all. At least it wasn't the last time I saw him play (Musicology Tour).

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #131 posted 05/07/15 12:14pm

lezama

avatar

fusk said:

man, that artwork is awful...

.

This whole thing is very lame. Prince is doing almost the exact same thing he's been doing for the past while and has pasted "Rally 4 Peace" on top. What's disheartening about this is that Prince's "business as usual" really seems optimized for maximum profits and minimum commitment.

.

There's a party at Paisley Park, it seems to be the same as usual. $30 cover.

.

There's a show with short notice, expensive tickets, and (free?) promotion via local news stations.

.

The only functional difference between this show and other recent shows is that a "portion" of the proceeds go to charity. I dunno, I can't really criticize him on this because I don't know what he gives behind the scenes, but having an undisclosed amount of ticket sales go to charity always struck me as being the "cost-effective" way for a musician to boost his/her reputation.

.

I don't live in Baltimore, I don't know what Baltimore needs, but I don't think a Prince concert is particularly helpful. It's helpful for Prince's reputation, maybe, if he doesn't get too much backlash from people like me who think this show is laaaaaaaame.

.

I strongly suspect the reason we haven't heard the Baltimore song is because Prince hasn't worked out a way to monetize it yet (ie. make that Tidal deal happen). But he made sure that we knew he wrote the song. How does this help anyone at all except Prince? It's not like Prince is the guy shining a light on the situation in Baltimore, the people of Baltimore didn't need Prince's help to make themselves heard. I guess it's important for as many people as possible to show solidarity, but there are ways to do that that seem less self-serving...

When causes work with celebrities its a two way affair, the causes seek the celebrities audience to raise attention to their issues, the celebrity seeks to help (if its a cause he/she is sympathetic to) and in turn wins because it demonstrates to that same audience that they care about something they might care about as well. Literally everything ANYONE does has a give and take. One sided altruism sounds idyllic and nice but it doesn't exist. Anywhere. People can take that and become cynical, or they can take it and realize that people do what they do because they feel its appropriate in any given moment. We all seek attention, we all want something in return when we give, etc etc. This is life... Just let those who want to give something for this do so. Being cynical and doing nothing but cheerleading in front of a tv or the internet is a lot less meaningful than all the people who are least trying to do something, even if their efforts are far from perfect.

Change it one more time..
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #132 posted 05/07/15 12:33pm

luvsexy4all

how can they sell tix to a show where u dont know exactyl who is on the bill besides him?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #133 posted 05/07/15 12:45pm

fusk

lezama said:

When causes work with celebrities its a two way affair, the causes seek the celebrities audience to raise attention to their issues, the celebrity seeks to help (if its a cause he/she is sympathetic to) and in turn wins because it demonstrates to that same audience that they care about something they might care about as well. Literally everything ANYONE does has a give and take. One sided altruism sounds idyllic and nice but it doesn't exist. Anywhere. People can take that and become cynical, or they can take it and realize that people do what they do because they feel its appropriate in any given moment. We all seek attention, we all want something in return when we give, etc etc. This is life... Just let those who want to give something for this do so. Being cynical and doing nothing but cheerleading in front of a tv or the internet is a lot less meaningful than all the people who are least trying to do something, even if their efforts are far from perfect.

.

first off, saying "when causes work with celebrities" suggests that someone from Baltimore approached Prince to play a show. I think the phrase "when celebrities support a cause" is more accurate. (By the way, that's a fun thought experiment: suppose some community leader or charity called on Prince to help Baltimore. What do you suppose the community leader would ask for? Would it be a song nobody could listen to? Or a concert with more $500 tickets than $20 tickets?)

.

Anyway. I understand there's always that two way street when it comes to being generous in public. As you said it always benefits both parties. My personal way of judging these things is to ask "who does this benefit more?" In my judgment, this benefits Prince waaaay more than the city of Baltimore. Baltimore benefits too, it's true, and I think Prince actually cares about the issues, but in my estimation the two way street you're talking about has much more traffic going towards Prince.

.

Again, it's Prince helping out Prince-style. It isn't what anyone asked for. So I'm kind of suspicious of how beneficial this concert will be.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #134 posted 05/07/15 1:09pm

Alexandernvrmi
nd

avatar

3rdeyedude said:

Rolling Stone has an article about the concert. I was reading the comments section. The funniest one was this..."Have you ever been to a Prince concert? It's a bunch of middle aged white and asian housewives drinking Bud Light reliving their youth."



here is the article: http://www.rollingstone.c...e-20150506



Well if that were true that would be funny. But as a Prince who would say think that was fun. Prince might be a spontaneous mess but his fans are as diverse as this country. The comment falls flat and reeks of queen
Dance... Let me see you dance
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #135 posted 05/07/15 1:17pm

tatocorcu

herb4 said:



3rdeyedude said:


Rolling Stone has an article about the concert. I was reading the comments section. The funniest one was this..."Have you ever been to a Prince concert? It's a bunch of middle aged white and asian housewives drinking Bud Light reliving their youth."



here is the article: http://www.rollingstone.c...e-20150506




Except that this is not true at all. At least it wasn't the last time I saw him play (Musicology Tour).


I saw him last year in the UK three times and it wasn't the case either. There were a lot of people my age, but there were loads, and I mean loads, of very young people as well...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #136 posted 05/07/15 1:24pm

lezama

avatar

fusk said:

lezama said:

When causes work with celebrities its a two way affair, the causes seek the celebrities audience to raise attention to their issues, the celebrity seeks to help (if its a cause he/she is sympathetic to) and in turn wins because it demonstrates to that same audience that they care about something they might care about as well. Literally everything ANYONE does has a give and take. One sided altruism sounds idyllic and nice but it doesn't exist. Anywhere. People can take that and become cynical, or they can take it and realize that people do what they do because they feel its appropriate in any given moment. We all seek attention, we all want something in return when we give, etc etc. This is life... Just let those who want to give something for this do so. Being cynical and doing nothing but cheerleading in front of a tv or the internet is a lot less meaningful than all the people who are least trying to do something, even if their efforts are far from perfect.

.

first off, saying "when causes work with celebrities" suggests that someone from Baltimore approached Prince to play a show. I think the phrase "when celebrities support a cause" is more accurate. (By the way, that's a fun thought experiment: suppose some community leader or charity called on Prince to help Baltimore. What do you suppose the community leader would ask for? Would it be a song nobody could listen to? Or a concert with more $500 tickets than $20 tickets?)

.

Anyway. I understand there's always that two way street when it comes to being generous in public. As you said it always benefits both parties. My personal way of judging these things is to ask "who does this benefit more?" In my judgment, this benefits Prince waaaay more than the city of Baltimore. Baltimore benefits too, it's true, and I think Prince actually cares about the issues, but in my estimation the two way street you're talking about has much more traffic going towards Prince.

.

Again, it's Prince helping out Prince-style. It isn't what anyone asked for. So I'm kind of suspicious of how beneficial this concert will be.

Yeah I was speaking in general, not about this specific case when mentioning the type of benefit celebrities bring to causes/issues. Because I don't like when people say that so and so is taking advantage of x,y,z.. it goes both ways. But I like your question regarding what the community would ask for. Its a great point. If the right people were advising him on this type of thing I think the approach would likely have been much different. But Im not in favor of kicking people just because somethings not perfect or even ideal (as long as they're not hurting anyone). If I see someone trying I commend them (at the very least) for their effort.

.

You could be right, but I'll wait to see what comes of it. We still don't know much of the logistics of who's doing what and who they're working with. Prince probably doesn't even know. Last minute things like this are logistic nightmares, so I feel sorry for his PR team and Trevor and whoever else is managing things for him because its a lot of pieces to put together on such short notice, especially if you want to pull it off without any hitches.

Change it one more time..
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #137 posted 05/07/15 1:33pm

HatrinaHaterwi
tz

avatar

V10LETBLUES said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I totally agree with you. Now there's tweets stating "Let's help Prince come up with a list of his most politically-charged songs 2 be played at the Peace Rally on Sunday." That just screams that no actual planning has really gone into this, at all. disbelief

Lol, it's not like people plan for riot concerts, is there a protocol? Lol. How well can a spur of the moment gesture of good will towards an unexpected full blown riot be planed? C'mon, people are now going out of their way to being asses here. [Edited 5/7/15 12:10pm]

Well enough to ensure Prince's safety and finances will be secure, I'm sure. So why not regarding everything else?

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #138 posted 05/07/15 1:36pm

herb4

tatocorcu said:

herb4 said:

Except that this is not true at all. At least it wasn't the last time I saw him play (Musicology Tour).

I saw him last year in the UK three times and it wasn't the case either. There were a lot of people my age, but there were loads, and I mean loads, of very young people as well...

Thanks for the confirmation. Every time I've seen Prince, it's been a pretty equal mixture of black and white, young and old (though MOSTLY old). I think this guy confused a Prince show with a John Cougar Mellencamp, KISS or Bruce Springsteen concert. But it's a comments section and those are almost always entirely filled with garbage.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #139 posted 05/07/15 1:47pm

fusk

lezama said:

Yeah I was speaking in general, not about this specific case when mentioning the type of benefit celebrities bring to causes/issues. Because I don't like when people say that so and so is taking advantage of x,y,z.. it goes both ways. But I like your question regarding what the community would ask for. Its a great point. If the right people were advising him on this type of thing I think the approach would likely have been much different. But Im not in favor of kicking people just because somethings not perfect or even ideal (as long as they're not hurting anyone). If I see someone trying I commend them (at the very least) for their effort.

.

You could be right, but I'll wait to see what comes of it. We still don't know much of the logistics of who's doing what and who they're working with. Prince probably doesn't even know. Last minute things like this are logistic nightmares, so I feel sorry for his PR team and Trevor and whoever else is managing things for him because its a lot of pieces to put together on such short notice, especially if you want to pull it off without any hitches.

.

I agree. You're a lawyer who deals with charities, right? You probably hear a bit of trash talk about people who sincerely just want to help.

.

I forget which news site i was reading (about the prince show), but there were so many comments along the lines of, 'liberals are making a martyr of a thug,' 'this is just part of the national hate campaign against police,' etc etc... a lot of stuff varying from kinda racist to blatantly racist. It put things in perspective for me a bit. At the end of the day, I would much rather have Prince get the media attention instead of those goons.

[Edited 5/7/15 13:47pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #140 posted 05/07/15 1:50pm

andymacfunky

avatar

Given the context of the recent riots, please don't start with Lat's Go Crazy

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #141 posted 05/07/15 2:05pm

7roses

avatar

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

7roses said:

.

Who knows?! Anyway...I think it's all about giving people a sense of participation with this, and then he'll play whatever he wants... razz

Some people will even claim "hey that's my choice, I said that!" lol

.

Here's another idea, if you were allowed to bring signs to the concert...what would your sign say?

Snap out of it! razz

.

razz exclaim

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #142 posted 05/07/15 2:33pm

langebleu

avatar

moderator

luvsexy4all said:

how can they sell tix to a show where u dont know exactyl who is on the bill besides him?


The same way other shows sell tickets

ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #143 posted 05/07/15 2:39pm

3rdeyedude

avatar

herb4 said:

tatocorcu said:

herb4 said: I saw him last year in the UK three times and it wasn't the case either. There were a lot of people my age, but there were loads, and I mean loads, of very young people as well...

Thanks for the confirmation. Every time I've seen Prince, it's been a pretty equal mixture of black and white, young and old (though MOSTLY old). I think this guy confused a Prince show with a John Cougar Mellencamp, KISS or Bruce Springsteen concert. But it's a comments section and those are almost always entirely filled with garbage.

jeez people, don't take it so seriously........it is just one element of his fans and I have seen plenty of them but it is just like the guys who dress up like Prince or the women who dress like hookers............plenty of people to make fun of at a Prince concert.........lighten up

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #144 posted 05/07/15 2:46pm

3rdeyedude

avatar

andymacfunky said:

Given the context of the recent riots, please don't start with Lat's Go Crazy

well, maybe as the final encore he could play it and then afterwards tell looters to loot the streets once more and get him some more wigs from the Korean owned black wig shops in Baltimore

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #145 posted 05/07/15 2:48pm

lezama

avatar

fusk said:

lezama said:

Yeah I was speaking in general, not about this specific case when mentioning the type of benefit celebrities bring to causes/issues. Because I don't like when people say that so and so is taking advantage of x,y,z.. it goes both ways. But I like your question regarding what the community would ask for. Its a great point. If the right people were advising him on this type of thing I think the approach would likely have been much different. But Im not in favor of kicking people just because somethings not perfect or even ideal (as long as they're not hurting anyone). If I see someone trying I commend them (at the very least) for their effort.

.

You could be right, but I'll wait to see what comes of it. We still don't know much of the logistics of who's doing what and who they're working with. Prince probably doesn't even know. Last minute things like this are logistic nightmares, so I feel sorry for his PR team and Trevor and whoever else is managing things for him because its a lot of pieces to put together on such short notice, especially if you want to pull it off without any hitches.

.

I agree. You're a lawyer who deals with charities, right? You probably hear a bit of trash talk about people who sincerely just want to help.

.

I forget which news site i was reading (about the prince show), but there were so many comments along the lines of, 'liberals are making a martyr of a thug,' 'this is just part of the national hate campaign against police,' etc etc... a lot of stuff varying from kinda racist to blatantly racist. It put things in perspective for me a bit. At the end of the day, I would much rather have Prince get the media attention instead of those goons.

[Edited 5/7/15 13:47pm]

Yeah I hear it all in assisting donors, assisting NGO's and then just being in the industry hearing the publics perception of the activities of celebrities, corporations and others who may be characterized as "do-gooders" or "rich liberals appropriating/patronizing the poor". I work a lot with the very wealthy and with corporations, and while there are bad seeds out there who do just want the public pat on the back for being good philanthropists, I've learned you can never make that generalization. I've worked with rich people who are 10 times more genuine, more trustworthy, than some poor "community leaders" who people think are doing things for noble reasons. Ive worked with plenty of people who have been frauded by small community leaders who people thought were genuine connections to certain social issues. And Ive worked with small NGO's that have been frauded by the rich and by corporations. Both for professional reasons, but also for the sake of my own sanity, Ive learned to pay close attention, but not judge until I see things unfold. At first I didn't know what I felt about that person's "open-letter" to Prince, but on retrospect I see it as a good thing. Just as the media has an important role in holding politicians and others accountable for their actions or inactions, so too community leaders and the public in general play a role in keeping philanthropic actors and celebrities playing that role accountable for their promises and other activities. So critiques, questions, all that stuff play an important role in people double checking their thought-process. We all play a part of the same ecosystem that should be working for the betterment of our communities.

Change it one more time..
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #146 posted 05/07/15 2:56pm

fusk

it's cool hearing your perspective! thanks for sharing!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #147 posted 05/07/15 2:56pm

lezama

avatar

andymacfunky said:

Given the context of the recent riots, please don't start with Lat's Go Crazy

Maybe Chaos & Disorder.. or Sly's "There's a Riot Going on"

[Edited 5/7/15 18:59pm]

Change it one more time..
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #148 posted 05/07/15 2:57pm

lezama

avatar

fusk said:

it's cool hearing your perspective! thanks for sharing!

Anytime man..

Change it one more time..
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #149 posted 05/07/15 3:36pm

herb4

3rdeyedude said:

herb4 said:

Thanks for the confirmation. Every time I've seen Prince, it's been a pretty equal mixture of black and white, young and old (though MOSTLY old). I think this guy confused a Prince show with a John Cougar Mellencamp, KISS or Bruce Springsteen concert. But it's a comments section and those are almost always entirely filled with garbage.

jeez people, don't take it so seriously........it is just one element of his fans and I have seen plenty of them but it is just like the guys who dress up like Prince or the women who dress like hookers............plenty of people to make fun of at a Prince concert.........lighten up

Who was being heavy in any way? Or overly serious?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 5 of 14 <123456789>Last »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)

This is a "featured" topic! — From here you can jump to the « previous or next » featured topic.

« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Concerts > Prince Headlining Rally 4 Peace Concert in Baltimore!