DeadlyGoldfish said:

Looks like I many be able to afford Saturday as well at the rate the tickets are dropping...

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Dropped you an Org note mate

Bought my tickets for Friday at Manchester from eventim and they arrived yesterday, Special Delivery.


By the way, I can see what powersoul is trying to say. I don't really understand why you would buy multiple tickets with the intention of selling them for face value? What is the advantage of doing that? When you select the tickets you want to buy, they get held for you, and you are given about 5 minutes to complete the purchase before they go public again.

Surely, if the sites are busy, you just keep trying until you get into the purchase page and then buy those. Why panic and buy more than you need? It makes no sense.

I think what happened a lot of people is that, in the crazy panic of trying to get *any* tickets on a site that is dangerously closing to crashing, they desperately take *any* tickets they can get. When things later calm down a bit and more tickets are released or more easily accessible they discover that better (i.e. closer to the stage) tickets are available so they buy them, with the intention of selling the earlier ones. With mass hysteria and people prematurely slapping 'SOLD OUT!!!!!' stamps over everything I can see their thinking - if demand is that high then of course they'll be able to sell them - at face value i.e. not trying to rip anyone off. Unfortunately with these shows it's the scalpers who created this situation and at least they'll be left out of pocket

EuanH91 said:

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I have 1 standing for sale for the Friday 16th in Manchester - £60 payment through paypal required as I've been let down twice

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Paper ticket and once I recieve can either meet in city centre with it leading up after work, or will head down on the day to meet up.

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Ppenguin said:

EuanH91 said:

Bought my tickets for Friday at Manchester from eventim and they arrived yesterday, Special Delivery.


By the way, I can see what powersoul is trying to say. I don't really understand why you would buy multiple tickets with the intention of selling them for face value? What is the advantage of doing that? When you select the tickets you want to buy, they get held for you, and you are given about 5 minutes to complete the purchase before they go public again.

Surely, if the sites are busy, you just keep trying until you get into the purchase page and then buy those. Why panic and buy more than you need? It makes no sense.

Because it pays to have a shotgun approach - take the ONA gigs for example. NPGMC failed on me so I was left to scramble for general sale tickets. I tried to secure tix whilst at work, my wife was trying too and so were my folks. In our case I got the number I needed before my other helpers did...but had we all got through at the same time then we'd have 3 times more god than needed. I'm not saying that's the case with everyone but, in the hysteria of this sale, everybody thought it would be do or die on tix

I can understand multiple people all trying to buy tickets at the same time, but just one person buying more than they need is a bit odd. If you get through, you've got some. You don't need to buy some more

Has anyone had their tickets for the first Birmingham show sent out yet?

Still awaiting tickets for Friday 16th from SeeTickets. Says '0% dispatched' when I go on customer service.

Yessss, got a ticket 25th May in Amsterdam. It will be mij 5th concert, after '92, '93, '95 and '02. Fantastic!

Militant said:

Has anyone had their tickets for the first Birmingham show sent out yet?

I havent had mine yet - keep us informed so I know when to panic !!!!!

Just got an email from SeeTickets conforming my tickets have been dispatched for Friday 16th.

fnksoul said:

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I have 1 standing for sale for the Friday 16th in Manchester - £60 payment through paypal required as I've been let down twice

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Paper ticket and once I recieve can either meet in city centre with it leading up after work, or will head down on the day to meet up.

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I know this lovely chap, so no funny business, all genuine, and I'll beat him up on Friday if not!

egansmind said:

Militant said:

Has anyone had their tickets for the first Birmingham show sent out yet?

I havent had mine yet - keep us informed so I know when to panic !!!!!

I did print @ home from Manc Arena (eventIM) and the email with the PDF was sent within seconds of booking.

Magenta said:

Not accusing anyone on here of being a Tout but those who bought excess tickets must be very wealthy indeed. Particularly at those prices. Thinking of the 3121 tickets and that we could have 10 tickets for less than the price of 3 seated makes me feel quite ill. Gutted about the availability left and that those of us, like myself, who bought at Midday and have crap seats to those who bought later. If everyone bought more than they needed we'd all be up shit creek without a paddle. It's not just the expense that has put many off it's the fact that it costs a fortune to arrange late Accomodation and expensive train tickets.nevertheless I'm extremely excited about the gigs!

It's not necessarily that people are wealthy when buying more tickets, it comes down to circumstance. Allot of UK fans would not have seen Prince Live since O2 2007 gigs, before Feb this year I hadn't, I'm sure lots of fans have bought tickets that they cannot really afford and have put them on credit cards as they were so expensive, but it could be another 7 years before he plays again in the UK. What's worse is that allot of fans have done that and paniced when tickets went on sale at 12:00, the common ticket sites were crashing, giving no results, saying no tickets available, so people paniced and bought the first tickets they were offerred to secure a ticket wherever, there wasn't much time to check locations or try again as it felt like you was against a ticking clock and you would not get better/any tickets if you did not buy there and then.

That's just good marketing, the ticket companies know there will be a big demand from the fans who will attend whatever the costs, but nowhere near enough fans to sell out straight away, so now we see much better seats being released to tempt the casual fan. So for the fans who bought straight away and didn't get the location they really wanted, to see great tickets come on the market now is a real killer and some fans will take the hit and risk buying better in the hope of selling their original tickets for face value/at a small loss.

I am in a similar position, I arranged with 2 good friends that we'd buy tickets for the 16th at Manchester as I live in Manchester and they are from down South, so I could put them up, I was online searching the usual sites at 12:00 and was getting no results, at about 12:20 I was offered Block 205 for £90 + fee's each, I just bought 3 straight away, I really wanted £135 lower tier but had no results. 15 minutes later i'm online and the 17th go's onsale for Manchester, quick search as i'm on the site and I get 3 great tickets in block 115 next to the stage, so I buy them at £135 each.

Now one of my friends cannot get to Manchester on the Friday in time due to work, it was always touch and go, but as the Saturday gig is now available and he has a good ticket, he would rather not rock the boat at work. We decided to buy 2 new tickets earlier in the week and got really good tickets in Block 115 for the Friday night at £135 (what I originally was after). I am trying to sell the 3 Block 205 tickets for face value/ ONO, in no way did I plan/do I want to make any profit, I am reconciled to making a loss, but I would rather try to sell here than go via stubhub etc where they make their pound of flesh touting my tickets.

Orgnote me with an offer if you would like 3 Block 205 Row E tickets (originally £90 + fee's, willing to listen to fair offers.

ecnirp98 said:

Magenta said:

Not accusing anyone on here of being a Tout but those who bought excess tickets must be very wealthy indeed. Particularly at those prices. Thinking of the 3121 tickets and that we could have 10 tickets for less than the price of 3 seated makes me feel quite ill. Gutted about the availability left and that those of us, like myself, who bought at Midday and have crap seats to those who bought later. If everyone bought more than they needed we'd all be up shit creek without a paddle. It's not just the expense that has put many off it's the fact that it costs a fortune to arrange late Accomodation and expensive train tickets.nevertheless I'm extremely excited about the gigs!

It's not necessarily that people are wealthy when buying more tickets, it comes down to circumstance. Allot of UK fans would not have seen Prince Live since O2 2007 gigs, before Feb this year I hadn't, I'm sure lots of fans have bought tickets that they cannot really afford and have put them on credit cards as they were so expensive, but it could be another 7 years before he plays again in the UK.

I hear that! I've never seen him live, but who knows if this is the only chance I'll ever get. Not only has he not done proper shows since '07, but it's also worth bearing in mind that he hasn't done any show outside London in 12 years, and hasn't done a regional arena tour in almost 20 years.

I'm not that keen on 3EG (I think all the new songs he's performed in the past year or two have been total shite) and I was really hoping for an NPG show, especially considering it's an arena. £71 and up for 3EG only in a huge arena is ridiculously expensive.. but I don't want to miss out on my potential last chance to see him.

It'd be fine if we could count on him to come back in a year or two, but with Prince, you never know. Like you said, it could be another 7 years, and by then he'll be 62.

I still think 3rdEye are gonna fall pretty flat to a lot of people at these shows. New Prince music doesn't sell out arenas, his back catalogue of hits does. 3rdEyeGirl is totally different.. it isn't the 'classic' Prince people will be expecting, especially for those prices. Sure, he built up some hype for them in February, but just one of the Manchester shows is almost double the number of people he played to on the entire Hit And Run tour.

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EuanH91 said:

ecnirp98 said:

It's not necessarily that people are wealthy when buying more tickets, it comes down to circumstance. Allot of UK fans would not have seen Prince Live since O2 2007 gigs, before Feb this year I hadn't, I'm sure lots of fans have bought tickets that they cannot really afford and have put them on credit cards as they were so expensive, but it could be another 7 years before he plays again in the UK.

I hear that! I've never seen him live, but who knows if this is the only chance I'll ever get. Not only has he not done proper shows since '07, but it's also worth bearing in mind that he hasn't done any show outside London in 12 years, and hasn't done a regional arena tour in almost 20 years.

I'm not that keen on 3EG (I think all the new songs he's performed in the past year or two have been total shite) and I was really hoping for an NPG show, especially considering it's an arena. £71 and up for 3EG only in a huge arena is ridiculously expensive.. but I don't want to miss out on my potential last chance to see him.

It'd be fine if we could count on him to come back in a year or two, but with Prince, you never know. Like you said, it could be another 7 years, and by then he'll be 62.

I still think 3rdEye are gonna fall pretty flat to a lot of people at these shows. New Prince music doesn't sell out arenas, his back catalogue of hits does. 3rdEyeGirl is totally different.. it isn't the 'classic' Prince people will be expecting, especially for those prices. Sure, he built up some hype for them in February, but just one of the Manchester shows is almost double the number of people he played to on the entire Hit And Run tour.

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he did hop park in 2011. that was only 3 years ago, was outside london and was a proper show. plus he did manchester in feb this year, also outside london and a proper show, and he played 2 nights

EuanH91 said:

ecnirp98 said:

It's not necessarily that people are wealthy when buying more tickets, it comes down to circumstance. Allot of UK fans would not have seen Prince Live since O2 2007 gigs, before Feb this year I hadn't, I'm sure lots of fans have bought tickets that they cannot really afford and have put them on credit cards as they were so expensive, but it could be another 7 years before he plays again in the UK.

I'm not that keen on 3EG (I think all the new songs he's performed in the past year or two have been total shite) and I was really hoping for an NPG show, especially considering it's an arena. £71 and up for 3EG only in a huge arena is ridiculously expensive.. but I don't want to miss out on my potential last chance to see him.

It'd be fine if we could count on him to come back in a year or two, but with Prince, you never know. Like you said, it could be another 7 years, and by then he'll be 62.

I still think 3rdEye are gonna fall pretty flat to a lot of people at these shows. New Prince music doesn't sell out arenas, his back catalogue of hits does. 3rdEyeGirl is totally different.. it isn't the 'classic' Prince people will be expecting, especially for those prices. Sure, he built up some hype for them in February, but just one of the Manchester shows is almost double the number of people he played to on the entire Hit And Run tour.

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I was lucky enough to see both shows in Manchester at the Academy and SBE in February, these were great gigs, so don't be put off that its 3EG, I was hoping for NPG as well as i'd seen 3EG so recently, but either way they will be great gigs, he seems in a really good mind set at trhe moment enjoying himself, which makes the gigs all the better for it.

The set lists he played were a good mix of old & new, stuff like I would Die 4 U/Hot Thing that I never thought I'd hear live again, these were on the revamped sampler set, but 3EG play along and he's pretty much doing the full songs and not short teasers.

I'm sure you can pick up a decent ticket for a good price with they way the tickets are available, he's really putting in great performances at the moment, so if you get the opportunity, go for it, i've seen most of the tours since 86 and the recent gigs are some of the best I've been at, albeit at a small venue which does make a difference, but I think Manchester will be rockin for these gigs.

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EuanH91 said:

I hear that! I've never seen him live, but who knows if this is the only chance I'll ever get. Not only has he not done proper shows since '07, but it's also worth bearing in mind that he hasn't done any show outside London in 12 years, and hasn't done a regional arena tour in almost 20 years.

I'm not that keen on 3EG (I think all the new songs he's performed in the past year or two have been total shite) and I was really hoping for an NPG show, especially considering it's an arena. £71 and up for 3EG only in a huge arena is ridiculously expensive.. but I don't want to miss out on my potential last chance to see him.

It'd be fine if we could count on him to come back in a year or two, but with Prince, you never know. Like you said, it could be another 7 years, and by then he'll be 62.

I still think 3rdEye are gonna fall pretty flat to a lot of people at these shows. New Prince music doesn't sell out arenas, his back catalogue of hits does. 3rdEyeGirl is totally different.. it isn't the 'classic' Prince people will be expecting, especially for those prices. Sure, he built up some hype for them in February, but just one of the Manchester shows is almost double the number of people he played to on the entire Hit And Run tour.

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The first lot of Hit n Run were to gauge how well recieved 3rd Eye Girl was to justify these larger shows I think, which overall the reviews were great, I was listening to one of the Manchester shows earlier and there is actually quite a few hits in there. I know what you mean about seeing a Hits show with NPG, would have loved to have seen that myself, but 3rd Eye live are a brilliant the girls are such a tight unit! You wont come away dissapointed because NPG aint there or he hasnt played as many hits as you had hoped. I wouldn't count out NPG horns section or something with him if which would be good, but im not holding my breath

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I dont think his back cataloge could sell out arenas as much these days, the majority of his fan base have other things to pay for, kids and everything else than £70 upwards on a ticket, he has to apeal to a wider age range which he can't do just playing stuff the older crowd liked back in the day.

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You honestly wont be dissapointed when you come out anyway

unique said:

he did hop park in 2011. that was only 3 years ago, was outside london and was a proper show. plus he did manchester in feb this year, also outside london and a proper show, and he played 2 nights

Yeah, I wasn't counting a festival slot as a "proper show", and the two shows in Manchester were announced at pretty short notice with no one knowing if there were gonna be multiple shows per night, resulting in people queueing outside for a second show who were then let in for the end of the first show.

When I say "proper show" I mean an advance sale, properly promoted tour/string of shows, like this set he is doing now.

ecnirp98 said:

The set lists he played were a good mix of old & new, stuff like I would Die 4 U/Hot Thing that I never thought I'd hear live again, these were on the revamped sampler set, but 3EG play along and he's pretty much doing the full songs and not short teasers.

Yeah, that's always a plus.. but the full band is always gonna beat the sampler or stripped down piano medleys. I'd really love to see the reworkings on the piano, or with 3rdEye, had I already seen the full band play them. The lack of a Purple Rain guitar solo is going to be a real shame

fnksoul said:

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The first lot of Hit n Run were to gauge how well recieved 3rd Eye Girl was to justify these larger shows I think, which overall the reviews were great.
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I dont think his back cataloge could sell out arenas as much these days, the majority of his fan base have other things to pay for, kids and everything else than £70 upwards on a ticket, he has to apeal to a wider age range which he can't do just playing stuff the older crowd liked back in the day.

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You honestly wont be dissapointed when you come out anyway

You're right about his genuine 'fan base' - but Prince is viewed by most to be some kind of musical pop legend.. not on the same level as Michael Jackson, but that kind of thing. He is pretty 'cool' at the moment. I have a feeling that the majority of the people who would go and see him on an arena tour are the kind of people who own The Ultimate Collection, and maybe Purple Rain, and want to go and see a musical legend in concert. He is well known to be one of the greatest live performers of all time, so that adds to his selling point.

It's his classic hits, and his reputation as a musical 'legend' that sells out arenas. There will be a hell of a lot of people expecting some funky 80's synth-pop they can dance and sing along to, and they're gonna be disappointed when he's just blasting some heavy guitar with a small rhythm section.

Either way, I'm still gonna love it! It's Prince for christs sake I've paid the money, so I'm over that now. Just seeing him play/perform will be enough for me.

Bring on the 16th!

strawberrybubblegum said:

Thanks Manhattan11 and PPenguin. Do i really need to go into the who what where why and and how i got so many tickets it's simple as the guys pointed out and I keep saying... better one kept coming up and I was like a kid in a candy store thinking of at least 8 casual friend fans who may want the ones I was discarding and if not would sell on at face value on Gumtree etc. Simple. No one else needs to add their 2 pence to this now. Can we move on. Jeez.

EuanH91 said:

unique said:

he did hop park in 2011. that was only 3 years ago, was outside london and was a proper show. plus he did manchester in feb this year, also outside london and a proper show, and he played 2 nights

Yeah, I wasn't counting a festival slot as a "proper show", and the two shows in Manchester were announced at pretty short notice with no one knowing if there were gonna be multiple shows per night, resulting in people queueing outside for a second show who were then let in for the end of the first show.

When I say "proper show" I mean an advance sale, properly promoted tour/string of shows, like this set he is doing now.

Yeah, that's always a plus.. but the full band is always gonna beat the sampler or stripped down piano medleys. I'd really love to see the reworkings on the piano, or with 3rdEye, had I already seen the full band play them. The lack of a Purple Rain guitar solo is going to be a real shame

fnksoul said:

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The first lot of Hit n Run were to gauge how well recieved 3rd Eye Girl was to justify these larger shows I think, which overall the reviews were great.
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I dont think his back cataloge could sell out arenas as much these days, the majority of his fan base have other things to pay for, kids and everything else than £70 upwards on a ticket, he has to apeal to a wider age range which he can't do just playing stuff the older crowd liked back in the day.

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You honestly wont be dissapointed when you come out anyway

You're right about his genuine 'fan base' - but Prince is viewed by most to be some kind of musical pop legend.. not on the same level as Michael Jackson, but that kind of thing. He is pretty 'cool' at the moment. I have a feeling that the majority of the people who would go and see him on an arena tour are the kind of people who own The Ultimate Collection, and maybe Purple Rain, and want to go and see a musical legend in concert. He is well known to be one of the greatest live performers of all time, so that adds to his selling point.

It's his classic hits, and his reputation as a musical 'legend' that sells out arenas. There will be a hell of a lot of people expecting some funky 80's synth-pop they can dance and sing along to, and they're gonna be disappointed when he's just blasting some heavy guitar with a small rhythm section.

Either way, I'm still gonna love it! It's Prince for christs sake I've paid the money, so I'm over that now. Just seeing him play/perform will be enough for me.

Bring on the 16th!

but you are just inventing your own meanings for things that already have long defined meanings. hop park was a proper show, as were the shows earlier this year. how tickets are distributed or anything else has nothing to do with it

unique said:

Ppenguin said:

unique said:

but you are just inventing your own meanings for things that already have long defined meanings. hop park was a proper show, as were the shows earlier this year. how tickets are distributed or anything else has nothing to do with it

The first KOKO gig wasn't....just saying

wasn't what?

i was at the front again and it was a great gig. you can see me in one of the official photos from the show. i'm wearing a prince t shirt so easy to spot

unique said:

unique said:

but you are just inventing your own meanings for things that already have long defined meanings. hop park was a proper show, as were the shows earlier this year. how tickets are distributed or anything else has nothing to do with it

Hop Farm wasn't a Prince show, it was Hop Farm Festival. Prince was just one of the many acts on that day. The main headliner, sure, but still just one of many. The crowd weren't there solely to see Prince, hence the hits show.

As for the shows earlier this year.. yes, the performances themselves may have been 'proper', but the organisation surrounding the whole thing wasn't. Shows sometimes weren't announced until the day of the show itself, tickets were sold on the door with nobody having any idea how much they were or if they were even gonna get in, and if they did, how long the show would be, or if they'd be kicked out to let people in for a second show.

Most people can't just drop everything and rush off to a last minute Prince gig that could potentially cost £70. When I say 'proper shows' - I mean advance sale, advance warning, proper tickets, proper planning, proper promotion.. Like every other band/artist does. The kind of show that everyone gets a chance to try and go to. He hasn't done one of those outside London since the ONA shows in Manchester in '02, and hasn't done any kind of arena tour like this in almost 20 years.

Ppenguin said:

The first KOKO gig wasn't....just saying

EuanH91 said:

unique said:

but you are just inventing your own meanings for things that already have long defined meanings. hop park was a proper show, as were the shows earlier this year. how tickets are distributed or anything else has nothing to do with it

Hop Farm wasn't a Prince show, it was Hop Farm Festival. Prince was just one of the many acts on that day. The main headliner, sure, but still just one of many. The crowd weren't there solely to see Prince, hence the hits show.

As for the shows earlier this year.. yes, the performances themselves may have been 'proper', but the organisation surrounding the whole thing wasn't. Shows sometimes weren't announced until the day of the show itself, tickets were sold on the door with nobody having any idea how much they were or if they were even gonna get in, and if they did, how long the show would be, or if they'd be kicked out to let people in for a second show.

Most people can't just drop everything and rush off to a last minute Prince gig that could potentially cost £70. When I say 'proper shows' - I mean advance sale, advance warning, proper tickets, proper planning, proper promotion.. Like every other band/artist does. The kind of show that everyone gets a chance to try and go to. He hasn't done one of those outside London since the ONA shows in Manchester in '02, and hasn't done any kind of arena tour like this in almost 20 years.

The Hop Farm set was a full on Prince show, over 2 hours long and and very much along the lines of what had been done at the O2 and W2A. I bought tickets for the Prince day purely because Prince was there, arrived a couple of hours before he was due on stage and there were a lot of people arriving with and after me.

Don't forget that whole day was only put on because they got Prince, prior to that Hop Farm was a 2 day festival. When it was first announced it only had Prince down as playing and other acts were 2ba.

DeadlyGoldfish said:

egansmind said:

I havent had mine yet - keep us informed so I know when to panic !!!!!

I did print @ home from Manc Arena (eventIM) and the email with the PDF was sent within seconds of booking.

Birmingham tickets for 15th and Manc for the 16th both arrived today (brum via Gigsandtours, Manc via Eventium)