OirishKev said:

I'm sorry. I was wrong. I forgot. It was 19 f ing years ago. You're all right. It was the NPG SAMPLER. Now I gotta go as I need to start a q

Your not wrong in regards to The War. That cant have been given out in 95, Neither was the Versace Experience. The NPG Sampler was given out at a variety of the 95 shows, but not all,

SquirrelMeat said:

TheEnglishGent said:

It's funny isn't it, everyone so ready to put you down about this and take my word as the faithful recollection of events, yet I'm the scum who let his wife into the queue the other night, so I don't know why I'm suddenly the essence of virtue. Maybe I'm Wolfie?

It was 7 years ago and there were loads of orgers getting their glowsticks and everyone was super hyped. Just because I don't recall having a drink with squrrel doesn't mean we didn't meet and chat for a bit. I met some people from the org who's real names I recall but I can't match a screen name to. Superb times and great people.

As for the number of shows he's claiming I have no idea, but seeing as I seem to have been used as anti-Squirrel ammunition I will say this. I've been coming here longer than my profile has existed, more than 13 years in fact and Squirrel has always been a solid member of the community and not someone that I've ever suspected of being a bullshitter. As far as I'm concerned he's one of the good guys.

Going back to the show count though, it really doesn't seem unbelieveable. I've only been going to see Prince since '93 and have seen him 27 times. Before the O2 shows there were 20 shows in England alone that I could have attended but didn't. I saw Prince at 12 main shows and 7 after shows, so there were a firther 9 main shows and 6 more after shows at which he performed. This brings us to 35 missed shows, so I could have been up to 65 easily and that's just in the UK being a fan since '93. Add in European dates and things like the celebration and I could easily be up to 100 performances, so someone who's been going since the early 80's and also travelling to European shows could easily be hitting 200.

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Don't worry Dude, I'm thick skinned enough to not lose any sleep over a few petty comments, but thanks for the kind words. I'm guessing that was you and I mentioned at the meeting point on the old thread I linked to, but I'm sure neither of us give two hoots as the what was said as long as we had a good time.

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I just find it very weird that some people would be so bothered to begin with. Even more weird is why people would troll a thread about London gigs without, it seems, even making an attempt to go to them, regardless how hardcore they claim to be. I guess some people just need something to rag on.

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As for shows, the funny thing is, I don't know the exact amount I've been to. I stopped counting before 150, and that was a long while ago. I know fans who have been to alot more than me. I think some people can't comprehend how hardcore others are.

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In the 80's I would travel Mainland Europe with a crappy backpack following the funk. I used to work to fund it. I've slept in cupboards on German railway stations to raining town parks in Utrect. I've driven across the US. For the UK Nude Tour, I got a standard ticket for the first night, and for the next 18, went to the touts as the lights were going down inside, and then snapped up their premium seats they were left with for a few quid.

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I was 15 when I lied to my parents and slept out overnight at Wembley Arena to bag front row seats for all the Parade gigs.

I could have hit 300 easy (like some have) but for funds. That was the biggest blocker.

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I'll just have to get some sort of passport stamped for the next 100 gigs in case people who just watch from the sidelines get their knickers in a twist.

You don't have to justify yourself. No at all.

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I usually go once or twice on each UK tour. I feel i probably take more from seeing one main show and hopefully an aftershow too. Setlists don't change much in the main shows enough for me to justify the expense. i.e. Lovesexy, same set next night. Nude, D&P, same. pretty much.

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But this set of shows, yeah. I just know without managing to get to one yet (i've tried!), this tickles my music bones.

WetDream said:

Just reading through the whole debate on the tapes distributed at the gigs in Dublin in 95, apart from the fact that the discussion about the tapes ended up reading like some sort of pathetic cat fight, I would sincerely like to recommend, that we start to act like adults. I am not trying to judge anyone, I am as guilty of over reacting and being an arse as anyone else on here.

Regarding Wolfie, I was almost kicked off this site because of a rabid rant I posted about him on here, the punishment would have been fair, coz what I did was bang out of order. However, I have never had to look at another post by him since, but I am sure he is here, in one form or another. Do I give a shit? Obviously not, some of the shit that guy was up to was wrong on so many levels...just think about the Croke park fiasco, or the 2007 ticket lottery thing where the funds were going to a hospital for sick children (his pocket)...and so on.

As for the fucking competition of who has been to the most P concerts, total nonsense. I am a hardcore fan but I have not seen 200+ Prince concerts. I would love to say I have, but geography amongst other things prevented me. However, I like to read accounts from people who have seen shed loads of gigs and I equally like to read the stories of the first timers. Each account of a gig, has its own individual perspective, purpose, and validity. As a member of a Prince forum, I would expect nothing less than that.

Finally, regarding the lost tapes, as I have mentioned earlier in this thread, I was at both Point Depot gigs in Dublin in 95. I remember at the time that there was talk of them, but I vaguely remember that. I was not on the floor for either gig, but I do remember there was some commotion in front of the stage during the gigs. In the end, who fucking cares, I don't, all I care about is the fact that they were two of the best gigs I was ever at, and I like to discuss the stories about them.

Peace N B wild...Those were the true Days Of Wild.

Looks like people are already queueing and getting numbered outside Koko.

@PrinceWatchUK ....no.10 in queue!! Yep they are numbering already so NO QUEUE JUMPING!! pic.twitter.com/GkqfkAdMXi

— Rob Staples (@jamiestarr1uk) February 16, 2014

Hmmm, if they're numbering do you have to wait there all day? Or can we drop kids with grandparents, go get numers, come home and arrange sitters for later then turn up at our leisure?

TheEnglishGent said:

Hmmm, if they're numbering do you have to wait there all day?

What do you think the benefit of 'numbering' would be besides that issue?

If you can trust the scheme, the people around you in the queue and what's not,....

Hi all really excited for the Manchester dates, just need a question answering, What's the age limit been for the London shows. My daughter really wants to see the man himself live, she is twelve has any of you noticed any younger pince fans about at the gigs.Many thanks enjoy tonite.

heywoodwhites said:

Hi all really excited for the Manchester dates, just need a question answering, What's the age limit been for the London shows. My daughter really wants to see the man himself live, she is twelve has any of you noticed any younger pince fans about at the gigs.Many thanks enjoy tonite.

SBE there was an under 10 near me so dooesnt seem to be a prob, but every venue will prob have diff policy, also pass different if standing or seating.

Koko 33 min ago

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TheEnglishGent said:

Hmmm, if they're numbering do you have to wait there all day? Or can we drop kids with grandparents, go get numers, come home and arrange sitters for later then turn up at our leisure?

Well, at SBE, they numbered everyone, but I didn't see much checking of the numbers at entry time. Maybe its done more for dispute. Just get a sharpie now and write a number on.

Good luck to everyone queuing already at Koko for the show. Enjoy!

Sadly, i have a life and can't be queuing in the cold for 12 hours so another gig not for me. Oh well.

THEDAYSOFWILD said:

SquirrelMeat said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Hmmm, if they're numbering do you have to wait there all day? Or can we drop kids with grandparents, go get numers, come home and arrange sitters for later then turn up at our leisure?

Well, at SBE, they numbered everyone, but I didn't see much checking of the numbers at entry time. Maybe its done more for dispute. Just get a sharpie now and write a number on.

I realised how daft i was being just after I posted. Oviously I can't just go there and then return at 7:30 expecting that they wouldn't have just started letting non-numbers in until the place is full.

"Sorry guys, you can't go in, EnglishGent hasn't returned yet"

It's good fun though, I'm cracking up at some of the people panicking on Twitter, "Will I definitely get in if I get there within an hour?". I'm thinking there's a possibility they may just squeeze in.

I'll be keeping an eye on it and if it gets to about 5pm and looking like we might get in still, then the wife and I may head over. No way I'm queueing for hours again though.

THEDAYSOFWILD said:

Rorywan said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Whats your problem dude? Upset that others have been to more gigs or something? Called out, I'm not even sure what you are on about, but you clearly have issues. The cassette picture you are pointing out now is not the one you said was given out. My guess, you made an honest mistake.

7 Years ago you me, Dayzofwild and others were calling Wolfie out til we eventually got him kicked off.

But I don't get all this playground stuff.

Is it that you think me or others make up the amount of gigs they go to? Your logic is what? I'm sure the hardcorers are like me and go for the music, not some score card thing.

Lets swap pictures of our Prince gold discs and be friends.

I was one of the people who got Wolfie thrown off this site Squirrelmeat. If you can't take it, don't give it mate. There are a lot of bullshit artists on this site. Betty (dayz) knows all about it. On a positive note what happened to SquirrelGrease? I miss him, he was funny and smart. A lot of the great Orgers seem to have disappeared.

Thanks for the compliment..if it was one

THEDAYSOFWILD said:

TheEnglishGent said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Well, at SBE, they numbered everyone, but I didn't see much checking of the numbers at entry time. Maybe its done more for dispute. Just get a sharpie now and write a number on.

I realised how daft i was being just after I posted. Oviously I can't just go there and then return at 7:30 expecting that they wouldn't have just started letting non-numbers in until the place is full.

"Sorry guys, you can't go in, EnglishGent hasn't returned yet"

It's good fun though, I'm cracking up at some of the people panicking on Twitter, "Will I definitely get in if I get there within an hour?". I'm thinking there's a possibility they may just squeeze in.

I'll be keeping an eye on it and if it gets to about 5pm and looking like we might get in still, then the wife and I may head over. No way I'm queueing for hours again though.

I'm really torn today. I don't fancy another Sunday on the pavement....but....I have already rejigged things with Mrs M to look after the kids and anywhere walkable from Kings Cross is really handy as its the end of the Cambridge line.

I think I'll make the trip PM, if the queue is too big, I'll enjoy the market, afterall it was the birthplace of my P obsession with bootleg stalls.

SquirrelMeat said:

TheEnglishGent said:

I realised how daft i was being just after I posted. Oviously I can't just go there and then return at 7:30 expecting that they wouldn't have just started letting non-numbers in until the place is full.

"Sorry guys, you can't go in, EnglishGent hasn't returned yet"

It's good fun though, I'm cracking up at some of the people panicking on Twitter, "Will I definitely get in if I get there within an hour?". I'm thinking there's a possibility they may just squeeze in.

I'll be keeping an eye on it and if it gets to about 5pm and looking like we might get in still, then the wife and I may head over. No way I'm queueing for hours again though.

I'm really torn today. I don't fancy another Sunday on the pavement....but....I have already rejigged things with Mrs M to look after the kids and anywhere walkable from Kings Cross is really handy as its the end of the Cambridge line.

I think I'll make the trip PM, if the queue is too big, I'll enjoy the market, afterall it was the birthplace of my P obsession with bootleg stalls.

yeah i am thinking the same - will check the q about 3pm and then jump on train from stevenage if it looks likely can get in

SquirrelMeat said:

Well, at SBE, they numbered everyone, but I didn't see much checking of the numbers at entry time.

Aren't numbering schemes used for queueing people to self-organise when the time of entry comes near?

SquirrelMeat said:

TheEnglishGent said:

I realised how daft i was being just after I posted. Oviously I can't just go there and then return at 7:30 expecting that they wouldn't have just started letting non-numbers in until the place is full.

"Sorry guys, you can't go in, EnglishGent hasn't returned yet"

It's good fun though, I'm cracking up at some of the people panicking on Twitter, "Will I definitely get in if I get there within an hour?". I'm thinking there's a possibility they may just squeeze in.

I'll be keeping an eye on it and if it gets to about 5pm and looking like we might get in still, then the wife and I may head over. No way I'm queueing for hours again though.

I'm really torn today. I don't fancy another Sunday on the pavement....but....I have already rejigged things with Mrs M to look after the kids and anywhere walkable from Kings Cross is really handy as its the end of the Cambridge line.

I think I'll make the trip PM, if the queue is too big, I'll enjoy the market, afterall it was the birthplace of my P obsession with bootleg stalls.

I got a couple of boots from Camden market. Can't remember which ones but I remember they weren't great.

Seems the queue is up to about 300 people now. With over 9 hours until doors open it's not looking good for me. Wonder if this makes a late show more lilkely?

SquirrelMeat said:

. Wonder if this makes a late show more lilkely?

Depends pn your definition of late versus the curfew.

Absolutely nuts that the queue is hitting 300 by 10am. I love prince but 5-6 hours of queuing this is enough for me.