kpowers said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Game could have been different....can't blame Trubearsky for that. He put the ball on the money. Wims didn't do his job.

If I'm the Steelers, I take a look at Sam Darnold. I think he can resurrect his career with a franchise that knows what it's doing.

I would be ok with that. Jets would be stupid to pick a QB as there number 1 pick in the draft. QB is not going to change anything, in fact it will pretty much remain the same. They should build around Darnold o-line/Defense but hey I know it's not a sexy pick.

They would have picked the no-brainer (Trevor Lawrence) if they didn't screw up the tank. Don't know if they'd go for the Ohio State QB.

Y'all calling for Tomlin's head...you know the Steelers don't operate that way, otherwise Cowher wouldn't have lasted as long.

Penny, I'd be concerned.

uPtoWnNY said:

kpowers said:

Ok never mind. But Trubisky had a pretty good game overall. Wims should have caught that TD pass.

Game could have been different....can't blame Trubearsky for that. He put the ball on the money. Wims didn't do his job.

If I'm the Steelers, I take a look at Sam Darnold. I think he can resurrect his career with a franchise that knows what it's doing.

What NFL team are u going 2 beat scoring 3 points in the playoffs?

Doug Pederson fired

uPtoWnNY said:

Doug Pederson fired

Well damn! Someone got thrown under the bus. I know Jalen Hurts and those defensive players

that wanted to put hands on him for that bullshit are somewhere smiling.

uPtoWnNY said:

kpowers said:

I would be ok with that. Jets would be stupid to pick a QB as there number 1 pick in the draft. QB is not going to change anything, in fact it will pretty much remain the same. They should build around Darnold o-line/Defense but hey I know it's not a sexy pick.

They would have picked the no-brainer (Trevor Lawrence) if they didn't screw up the tank. Don't know if they'd go for the Ohio State QB.

Y'all calling for Tomlin's head...you know the Steelers don't operate that way, otherwise Cowher wouldn't have lasted as long.

Not that I hate Tomlin but I'm a results oriented guy. His last 3 playoff games spread out from

2015 have been losses. The defense was horrible in those 3 losses. They came into the season

with the worst rb group in the AFC North and fans wonder why Big Ben have been turning the ball

over. You can't throw the ball an insane amount of times and don't turn it over. It's what hurts Drew Brees sometimes and he actually has a rb he can lean on. Steelers OC Randy Fuckner should be

handed his walking papers today.

uPtoWnNY said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Penny, I'd be concerned.

phunkdaddy said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Doug Pederson fired

Well damn! Someone got thrown under the bus. I know Jalen Hurts and those defensive players

that wanted to put hands on him for that bullshit are somewhere smiling.

Can somebody please throw the Bears under the bus.

Bench Ben? That is the worst football take ever Batman. He almost came back and I hate that motherducker.

Tomlin aint the problem, they just did not win.

Will my Rams do it?

2freaky4church1 said:

Bench Ben? That is the worst football take ever Batman. He almost came back and I hate that motherducker.

Tomlin aint the problem, they just did not win.

Will my Rams do it?

Of course you will say that. Tomlin is to chicken shit. Last year they should of picked up RB Dobbins (like phunkdaddy has said). The Claypool pick was to please Ben. Hell even the Ju-Ju Smith pick was to please Ben, we had good WR's and Anotnio Brown at the time. Ben is not the QB he was. The short passses all year long proves it. Playoff loss wasn't all Ben's fault but he did contribute a lot to putting the Steelers in a hole. 4 ints in a playoff game. Horrible. Steelers have not address the back up QB situation as well.

kpowers said:

Steelers have not address the back up QB situation as well.

They have no choice but to do it now.

uPtoWnNY said:

kpowers said:

I would be ok with that. Jets would be stupid to pick a QB as there number 1 pick in the draft. QB is not going to change anything, in fact it will pretty much remain the same. They should build around Darnold o-line/Defense but hey I know it's not a sexy pick.

They would have picked the no-brainer (Trevor Lawrence) if they didn't screw up the tank. Don't know if they'd go for the Ohio State QB.

Y'all calling for Tomlin's head...you know the Steelers don't operate that way, otherwise Cowher wouldn't have lasted as long.

Cowher would have gotten the Steelers to the supebowl more often than Tomlin. Tomlin superbowl win is because that was basically Cowhers team.

kpowers said:

uPtoWnNY said:

They would have picked the no-brainer (Trevor Lawrence) if they didn't screw up the tank. Don't know if they'd go for the Ohio State QB.

Y'all calling for Tomlin's head...you know the Steelers don't operate that way, otherwise Cowher wouldn't have lasted as long.

Cowher would have gotten the Steelers to the supebowl more often than Tomlin. Tomlin superbowl win is because that was basically Cowhers team.

I've heard that before but the records don't bear that out.

Cowher went to 2 Super Bowls in 15 seasons and had 3 losing seasons.

Tomlin has been to 2 Super Bowls in 14 seasons and no losing seasons.

Cowher has gotten PIT to more AFC title games. Several more. But he won just as many of those games as Tomlin, several of them WITH Home Field Advantage.

Speaking objectively, Cowher's postseason record is better, but in terms of getting to more Super Bowls, can't go there.

namepeace said:

Talk about a fair weather fan. boo

Typical Steeler goof. lol

Get ready for a world of hurt when Burrow returns.

Browns just may do it.

namepeace said:

kpowers said:

Cowher would have gotten the Steelers to the supebowl more often than Tomlin. Tomlin superbowl win is because that was basically Cowhers team.

I've heard that before but the records don't bear that out.

Cowher went to 2 Super Bowls in 15 seasons and had 3 losing seasons.

Tomlin has been to 2 Super Bowls in 14 seasons and no losing seasons.

Cowher has gotten PIT to more AFC title games. Several more. But he won just as many of those games as Tomlin, several of them WITH Home Field Advantage.

Speaking objectively, Cowher's postseason record is better, but in terms of getting to more Super Bowls, can't go there.

If Cowher would have stuck around a little bit more he would have won at least one more Superbowl ring with young Ben.

2freaky4church1 said:

Talk about a fair weather fan. boo

Typical Steeler goof. lol

Get ready for a world of hurt when Burrow returns.

Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Typical drama shit going on in Pittsburgh but the team will turn around like always.

phunkdaddy said:

namepeace said:

I've heard that before but the records don't bear that out.

Cowher went to 2 Super Bowls in 15 seasons and had 3 losing seasons.

Tomlin has been to 2 Super Bowls in 14 seasons and no losing seasons.

Cowher has gotten PIT to more AFC title games. Several more. But he won just as many of those games as Tomlin, several of them WITH Home Field Advantage.

Speaking objectively, Cowher's postseason record is better, but in terms of getting to more Super Bowls, can't go there.

This always makes a great debate among Steelers fans on message boards I wouldn't claim Tomlin is a Hall Of Fame coach but at the same time what the hell made Cowher significantly better. Hell he lost 4 AFC championship games at home. Not outside Pittsburgh but in Pittsburgh. Then the good old franchise qb argument comes up but who was the franchise qb for San Diego in 1994 when the Steelers lost. It sure as hell wasn't Dan Fouts. 1997 they led the Broncos much of the game and lost late when it counted. 2001 when they lost to the up and coming Patriots it wasn't because of the qb but because special teams put them in a 21-3 hole at halftime. A blocked punt for a TD and Troy Brown on a punt return. 2005 against the Patriots again Cowher cost the team a chance when down early in the 4th 27-13 on 4th and goal at the 2 he elected to kick a FG instead of going for it to cut it to 7. I was going nuts at home. At worst you don't make it you pin them at their own 2. Both are good coaches who had flaws but Cowher is always gonna be the favorite because he is a Pittsburgh bred guy.

Thoughts on Neil O'Donnell?? I always liked him. Wish he would have stuck around a little bit longer. Then the Jets took him. Come to think of it the Jets are always taking some of our big name players Alan Faneca, Santonio Holmes and Levon Dumb Bell.

Steelers still haven't fired Randy Fichtner

kpowers said:

phunkdaddy said:

namepeace said: This always makes a great debate among Steelers fans on message boards I wouldn't claim Tomlin is a Hall Of Fame coach but at the same time what the hell made Cowher significantly better. Hell he lost 4 AFC championship games at home. Not outside Pittsburgh but in Pittsburgh. Then the good old franchise qb argument comes up but who was the franchise qb for San Diego in 1994 when the Steelers lost. It sure as hell wasn't Dan Fouts. 1997 they led the Broncos much of the game and lost late when it counted. 2001 when they lost to the up and coming Patriots it wasn't because of the qb but because special teams put them in a 21-3 hole at halftime. A blocked punt for a TD and Troy Brown on a punt return. 2005 against the Patriots again Cowher cost the team a chance when down early in the 4th 27-13 on 4th and goal at the 2 he elected to kick a FG instead of going for it to cut it to 7. I was going nuts at home. At worst you don't make it you pin them at their own 2. Both are good coaches who had flaws but Cowher is always gonna be the favorite because he is a Pittsburgh bred guy.

Thoughts on Neil O'Donnell?? I always liked him. Wish he would have stuck around a little bit longer. Then the Jets took him. Come to think of it the Jets are always taking some of our big name players Alan Faneca, Santonio Holmes and Levon Dumb Bell.

He made Larry Brown a household name, lol. Parcells wasn't a fan of his, I can tell you that.

kpowers said:

phunkdaddy said:

namepeace said: This always makes a great debate among Steelers fans on message boards I wouldn't claim Tomlin is a Hall Of Fame coach but at the same time what the hell made Cowher significantly better. Hell he lost 4 AFC championship games at home. Not outside Pittsburgh but in Pittsburgh. Then the good old franchise qb argument comes up but who was the franchise qb for San Diego in 1994 when the Steelers lost. It sure as hell wasn't Dan Fouts. 1997 they led the Broncos much of the game and lost late when it counted. 2001 when they lost to the up and coming Patriots it wasn't because of the qb but because special teams put them in a 21-3 hole at halftime. A blocked punt for a TD and Troy Brown on a punt return. 2005 against the Patriots again Cowher cost the team a chance when down early in the 4th 27-13 on 4th and goal at the 2 he elected to kick a FG instead of going for it to cut it to 7. I was going nuts at home. At worst you don't make it you pin them at their own 2. Both are good coaches who had flaws but Cowher is always gonna be the favorite because he is a Pittsburgh bred guy.

Thoughts on Neil O'Donnell?? I always liked him. Wish he would have stuck around a little bit longer. Then the Jets took him. Come to think of it the Jets are always taking some of our big name players Alan Faneca, Santonio Holmes and Levon Dumb Bell.

I liked O'Donnell. He got a bad rap because of the Super Bowl obviously. Why was he throwing anyway when the Steelers were running the ball down Dallas throat with Bam Morris?

Dallas defenders were literally gasping for air trying to tackle that big dude. Ironically Bam Morris

misfortune off the field led the Steelers to trading for some guy named Jerome Bettis.

Bam Morris was freakishly fast for his size.

uPtoWnNY said:

phunkdaddy said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Browns just may do it.

Doubtful.

PennyPurple said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Browns just may do it.

Doubtful.

Browns running attack could be a problem.

uPtoWnNY said:

PennyPurple said:

Doubtful.

Browns running attack could be a problem.

Browns have lost the last 3 or 4 games that they've played against the Chiefs.

2freaky4church1 said: Get ready for a world of hurt when Burrow returns.

Cincy better get Burrow a rock-solid o-line (see Andrew Luck).

Urban Meyer may help kitties.