morningsong said:

Does anyone feel like this seems to reflect the climate change issues we face? I mean, every nation has a bunch of infighting, along with fighting each other for some ultimate power and control, all of which is important but coming over the horizon is this bigger looming issue that'll screw us all. Hopefully somebody's got some fire-breathing dragons in tow for us.

I think the White Walkers could be interpreted as an allegory for climate change.

When we reach the tipping point, Mother Nature could turn into the Night King.

namepeace said:

morningsong said:

Does anyone feel like this seems to reflect the climate change issues we face? I mean, every nation has a bunch of infighting, along with fighting each other for some ultimate power and control, all of which is important but coming over the horizon is this bigger looming issue that'll screw us all. Hopefully somebody's got some fire-breathing dragons in tow for us.

I think the White Walkers could be interpreted as an allegory for climate change.

When we reach the tipping point, Mother Nature could turn into the Night King.

Ah, environmental themes a la Lord of the Rings.

morningsong said:

namepeace said:

There are Wars to Come --

wars within the houses (Stark, Lannister and Greyjoy)

the wars for Westeros (Lannister-Stark-Targaryen)

and of course, the War Against Humanity (Night King v. The World)

That's going to take a lot of time and a lot of action to play out. I for one am glad they/re taking 2 more seasons to do it. There are way too many loose ends to tie up before the show ends.

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Yes, true. It's hard not having any idea how any of this may play out since there are so many things at play. Grandma Flowers wants her revenge on Cersi, Little Finger wants the throne and Sansa, so there are even smaller games at play that could upset a lot of things. And what's Sam contribution to all of this? You know it's got to be crucial.

"Grandma Flowers" . . . love that! Truly a ton of moving parts to begin the season, but that's par for the course for Thrones.

Fire (dragons) melts Ice. Water puts fire out and also melts ice....

purplethunder3121 said:

namepeace said:

I think the White Walkers could be interpreted as an allegory for climate change.

When we reach the tipping point, Mother Nature could turn into the Night King.

Ah, environmental themes a la Lord of the Rings.

morningsong also mentioned it earlier.

Also . . .

Arya may have tipped other scales in favor of her siblings without knowing it. She took out House Frey by herself. That leaves Houses Frey and Tully open to annexation by the new King of the North (or Edmure).

I refuse to believe Blackfish is dead until I see his body. His men could have easily lied to Walder and Jaime.

namepeace said:

Also . . .

Arya may have tipped other scales in favor of her siblings without knowing it. She took out House Frey by herself. That leaves Houses Frey and Tully open to annexation by the new King of the North (or Edmure).

I refuse to believe Blackfish is dead until I see his body. His men could have easily lied to Walder and Jaime.

Arya, Jon, Sansa and Bran need to have one more time together even if it's the last time they'll see each other. I need that.

You've got Frey, Tulley and Baratheon houses all fallen, and these were all crucial long standing houses in the scheme of things. Isn't the Bolton house gone too?

morningsong said:

namepeace said:

Also . . .

Arya may have tipped other scales in favor of her siblings without knowing it. She took out House Frey by herself. That leaves Houses Frey and Tully open to annexation by the new King of the North (or Edmure).

I refuse to believe Blackfish is dead until I see his body. His men could have easily lied to Walder and Jaime.

Arya, Jon, Sansa and Bran need to have one more time together even if it's the last time they'll see each other. I need that.

You've got Frey, Tulley and Baratheon houses all fallen, and these were all crucial long standing houses in the scheme of things. Isn't the Bolton house gone too?

I think we're going to get 3 of the 4 together at some point because Arya's killing her way to Winterfell.

The Frey and Tully armies should be pretty much intact. Edmure could conceivably take it all and get in the Game himself. Here's how: he's STILL married to Walder's oldest daughters. The other marriage-eligible daughter was married to Roose Bolton until she became fodder for Ramsay's dogs. He can claim it all if he gets out of the dungeon.

namepeace said:

morningsong said:

Arya, Jon, Sansa and Bran need to have one more time together even if it's the last time they'll see each other. I need that.

You've got Frey, Tulley and Baratheon houses all fallen, and these were all crucial long standing houses in the scheme of things. Isn't the Bolton house gone too?

I think we're going to get 3 of the 4 together at some point because Arya's killing her way to Winterfell.

The Frey and Tully armies should be pretty much intact. Edmure could conceivably take it all and get in the Game himself. Here's how: he's STILL married to Walder's oldest daughters. The other marriage-eligible daughter was married to Roose Bolton until she became fodder for Ramsay's dogs. He can claim it all if he gets out of the dungeon.

Okay, I guess there are enough dangling pieces to work from to fill the rest of the series out. You still have Robert's son wondering around somewhere. Another Red Priestess to stir up mess. And the mystery of Arya's wolf, which I think will get cut from the tv series anyway, but I'm hoping.

namepeace said:

kewlschool said:

The fleet of ships is going to fight to put Yara in control of her rightful crown. Euron dead wont be able to join the Lannisters.

So Dany and Yara are on the same page to invade the Iron Isles first?

Yes. That was the deal they shook on. And She can launch her attack from there. (She will need to supplies to finish her journey.)

Rumour has it that someone(a familiar character) gets killed off again. Perhaps Sansa? Or Dany? (She could be brought back to life. After all she is the only central character in a main story line through out a season to not be killed off.)

kewlschool said:

namepeace said:

So Dany and Yara are on the same page to invade the Iron Isles first?

Yes. That was the deal they shook on. And She can launch her attack from there. (She will need to supplies to finish her journey.)

Rumour has it that someone(a familiar character) gets killed off again. Perhaps Sansa? Or Dany? (She could be brought back to life. After all she is the only central character in a main story line through out a season to not be killed off.)

Thanks for clearing that up. I missed that even after binging S6 over the holiday.

I have an idea on who the next victim is, because apparently a promo photo contained a small clue that could be a huge spoiler, but I won't go into it here.

On the Iron Throne:

Cersei

Those loyal to her: Qyburn (the hand of the queen), Gregor (the mountain) and Jaime

Fighting for the throne:

Daenerys Targaryen, those loyal to her: Tyrion Lannister (the hand of the queen), Varys, Grey Worm, Missandei & the dragons.

Yara Greyjoy, loyal to her is Theon Greyjoy.

Olenna Tyrell (Flowers)

Fighting the Dead:
Jon Snow, loyal to him, Davos Seaworth, Tormand Giantsbane (leader of the Free Folk) Lyanna Mormont (Lady of Bear Island)

Sansa Stark, loyal to her, Brienne of Tarth, and Petyr "LittleFinger" Baelish

Bran is at weirwood tree

Sam is in oldtown

Gendry was last seen rowing a boat

Arya is searching for revenge

Euron Greyjoy

Sandor "The Hound" is traveling wit an outlaw group

Meliandre has been banished


Jorah Moremont is searching for a cure for greyscale

can't wait

PennyPurple said:

On the Iron Throne:

Cersei

Those loyal to her: Qyburn (the hand of the queen), Gregor (the mountain) and Jaime

You sure we're counting Jaime there? He didn't look too happy when he got back to King's Landing. He slayed the last occupant of the Iron Throne who tried to burn down the Sept (Aerys Targaryen). And Cersei actually did it. They may be in for a Romeo and Juliet ending (not good).

Fighting for the throne:

Daenerys Targaryen, those loyal to her: Tyrion Lannister (the hand of the queen), Varys, Grey Worm, Missandei & the dragons.

Yara Greyjoy, loyal to her is Theon Greyjoy.

Olenna Tyrell (Flowers)

Dorne, too -- Ellaria and the Sand Snakes run the place now and are united with House Tyrell to destroy the Lannisters.

Fighting the Dead:
Jon Snow, loyal to him, Davos Seaworth, Tormand Giantsbane (leader of the Free Folk) Lyanna Mormont (Lady of Bear Island)

Sansa Stark, loyal to her, Brienne of Tarth, and Petyr "LittleFinger" Baelish

I agree you have to presume that there will be factions in the North.

Bran is at weirwood tree: hopefully the Night King's mark on Bran doesn't dissolve the spells in the Wall when Bran gets to Castle Black.

Sam is in oldtown: hopefully finding a way to fight the Walkers.

Gendry was last seen rowing a boat: And may end up winning the Game by default.

Arya is searching for revenge: She got quite a bit of it -- Trant and the Freys gone. But she's aiming for more. She may not even realize at this point she did Jon a huge solid.

Euron Greyjoy: The rumored other "Big Bad" of S7.

Sandor "The Hound" is traveling wit an outlaw group: Brotherhood Without Banners, who'll be seen North of the Wall.

Meliandre has been banished: And a free agent!


Jorah Moremont is searching for a cure for greyscale: If he goes back to Old Valyria he may find a stash of steel that could kill the White Walkers. Maybe he encounters Quaithe, the veiled woman he ran into in Qarth, who seemed to know a lot.

How could I forget about Dorne and the Sand Snakes?

HBO releases titles &...3 episodes

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FunkGetsStronger said:

PennyPurple said:

How could I forget about Dorne and the Sand Snakes?

Waaaay too many storylines to keep up with.

I only remembered because I binged S6 last weekend (twice)!

I'm excited, and sure about Jame is goin to be the one who kills the greatest character of them all: Cersei.

namepeace said:

morningsong said:

Does anyone feel like this seems to reflect the climate change issues we face? I mean, every nation has a bunch of infighting, along with fighting each other for some ultimate power and control, all of which is important but coming over the horizon is this bigger looming issue that'll screw us all. Hopefully somebody's got some fire-breathing dragons in tow for us.

I think the White Walkers could be interpreted as an allegory for climate change.

When we reach the tipping point, Mother Nature could turn into the Night King.

Nice theory.

214 said:

I'm excited, and sure about Jame is goin to be the one who kills the greatest character of them all: Cersei.

Could happen.

The past 3 days we have been having problems with our cable, and guess which channel we aren't getting??? That's right HBO. Called the cable company they are supposed to come and take a look. If it is not fixed by GOT night. I'm going to be ticked.

I started off, off a day.

PennyPurple said:

214 said:

I'm excited, and sure about Jame is goin to be the one who kills the greatest character of them all: Cersei.

Could happen.

It could, everything is possible. I'm watching the whole show again, i'm starting with the first season.

I am currently finishing up my rewatch to get ready for the new season. I just finished "The Mountain and the Viper" and it never fails to send chills down my spine...

FunkGetsStronger said:

I am currently finishing up my rewatch to get ready for the new season. I just finished "The Mountain and the Viper" and it never fails to send chills down my spine...

I wanted to rewatch the six seasons before the seventh season opening, but unfortunately i won't be able to do that.

214 said:

FunkGetsStronger said:

I am currently finishing up my rewatch to get ready for the new season. I just finished "The Mountain and the Viper" and it never fails to send chills down my spine...

I wanted to rewatch the six seasons before the seventh season opening, but unfortunately i won't be able to do that.

One thing you could do is rewatch the last 2 episodes of seasons 1-4 and the last 3 episodes of seasons 5 and 6. That's a great refresher.

FunkGetsStronger said:

I am currently finishing up my rewatch to get ready for the new season. I just finished "The Mountain and the Viper" and it never fails to send chills down my spine...

I wanted to rewatch the six seasons before the seventh season opening, but unfortunately i won't be able to do that; i'm just about to finish the first season.