Yooooooo!!!!!! This latest episode was the muthafuckin' shit!!!!!! By far the best episode this season as of yet. I have to re-watch and give my tomorrow.

But Dany's throne is also Jon's. Same father, different mothers.

morningsong said:

Haven't seen epi 4 yet, shhh don't tell me. But I'm still a bit 'unnerved' that Dany's throne is her birthright. Noting that Jon 'earned" his right to his throne even though it wasn't his birthright. She has earned her rights to rule somewhere but not necessarily all of westros by default. The only aruement for Dany is the current occupant of the iron throne is absolutely insane, angry and vengeful.

I was on the edge of my seat the entire time.

Stannis Baratheon was the one true king.

PennyPurple said:

But Dany's throne is also Jon's. Same father, different mothers.

morningsong said:

Haven't seen epi 4 yet, shhh don't tell me. But I'm still a bit 'unnerved' that Dany's throne is her birthright. Noting that Jon 'earned" his right to his throne even though it wasn't his birthright. She has earned her rights to rule somewhere but not necessarily all of westros by default. The only aruement for Dany is the current occupant of the iron throne is absolutely insane, angry and vengeful.

No, Dany's father was Mad King and Jon's father was the Mad King's son Rhaegar, or not?

Did you all notice the parallel in episode 3?

"Rhaegar never liked killing"

[Edited 8/6/17 19:57pm]

PennyPurple said:

So Dany's is his AUNT??? That don't sound right.

214 said:

PennyPurple said:

But Dany's throne is also Jon's. Same father, different mothers.

No, Dany's father was Mad King and Jon's father was the Mad King's son Rhaegar, or not?

PennyPurple said:

So Dany's is his AUNT??? That don't sound right.

214 said:

No, Dany's father was Mad King and Jon's father was the Mad King's son Rhaegar, or not?

But it is right. Rhaegar is Daenerys brother, the mad King Aerys was their father. From Bran's vision, the show is implying that Jon's parentage is Ned Stark's sister and the father is Rhaegar, since Rhaegar was holding Ned's sister "hostage" during Robert's Rebellion. Therefore, Daenerys is Jon's aunt.

morningsong said:

Is Sansa jealous or feeling inadequate? I got that impression too.

Isn't Littlefinger on Arya's list? I believe so, but I'm not sure. Clearly, she sees right through him.

Doesn't Bran know everything Littlefinger has done? Yep. That's why he couldn't be manipulated by Littlefinger.

Tyrion is on Dany's bad side a little. Dany does get that crazy look in her eyes from time to time.
Oh hell yeah, she gives him the bitch face look now and then but even moreso now because his so called clever strategy has failed and she's questioning whether or not he is struggling with defeating his family.

Looks like there's going to be a grain shortage in the North and the South.. And thank goodness for no gross Sam scene. Speaking of Sam , John Bradley has lost a lot of weight this year, more than he appears to have lost on the show. 3 epis left then a very long wait.

Hands down, the best episode in a couple of seasons. Let's get into it:

1. Daenerys was REALLY interested in getting the tea about Missandei and Greyworm's love affair.

2. It seems sir Davos has a bit of a crush on Missandei...as does Tormond has on Brienne and from last night, it appears that Podrick could be developing something for Arya. Love is on the horizon.

3. Speaking of attractions, I'm wondering if Jon's Targaryen parentage will be revealed before he and Daenerys start to fall for each other, because I can see that happening a mile away. In fact, I thought they were going to jump each other in the cave.

4. Perhaps Jon's Targaryen nature will be revealed if he's able to control the dragons????

5. Was Daenerys right to question Tyrion on being apprehensive in destroying his family? Sure, his latest plans have failed, but even the most wisest people can make mistakes sometimes. I don't think she should completely ignore him going forward.

6. Sansa looked a bit salty that Arya's fighting game is on point.

7. So did the gold make it to King's Landing or not? I was under the impression that the wagon on fire with the horses running wild was the wagon with the gold in it.

8. Don't fret, Jaime and Bronn are still alive.

9. Wonder if Qyburn has another plan to slay the dragons since the huge crossbow was a partial fail.

10. It's official, this battle trumps the battle at Blackwater in season 2, which up until now, was the best.

11. It's clear that Littlefinger's slithering ways aren't being fazed by the surviving Stark kids but its only a matter of time before he does find someone in Winterfell to manipulate.

12. So when are we going to see The Hound pop up again through all of this?

13. When one of the Dothraki soldiers told Tyrion "your people can't fight", it was so honest that Tyrion couldn't even provide an appropriate come back response for it. All in all, I think he was worried that Jaime was going to meet his fate and even though he wouldn't mind seeing Cersei burn alive, I think watching Jaime die is something that would really bother him.

14. Question about the creation of the white walkers: So basically we learned last season that the White Walkers were created by The Children to protect them from the First Men. So, when Jon and Daenerys were in the cave looking at the drawings, Jon interpreted them as the First Men and The Children working together to defeat the White Walkers...but is he misinterpreting what its really saying? Basically, the Children created these monsters that took on a life of its own and is now a hinderence to mankind, right? SMH.

15. So, going by Daenerys decision to take Lady Orlenna's advice and be a dragon, is she slowly turning into the Mad Queen?

Can't wait until next week!!!

[Edited 8/7/17 11:16am]

Dany certainly has the potential to become crazy, but who knows?

I found it funny how in episode 3 she said, the Targaryen reign was full of "centuries of peace and prosperity", just casually ignoring all the Blackfyre Rebellions, the Faith Militant uprising, the War for the Stepstone, the Dance of the Dragons and so on.

missfee said:

morningsong said:

Is Sansa jealous or feeling inadequate? I got that impression too.

Isn't Littlefinger on Arya's list? I believe so, but I'm not sure. Clearly, she sees right through him.

Doesn't Bran know everything Littlefinger has done? Yep. That's why he couldn't be manipulated by Littlefinger.

Tyrion is on Dany's bad side a little. Dany does get that crazy look in her eyes from time to time.
Oh hell yeah, she gives him the bitch face look now and then but even moreso now because his so called clever strategy has failed and she's questioning whether or not he is struggling with defeating his family.

Looks like there's going to be a grain shortage in the North and the South.. And thank goodness for no gross Sam scene. Speaking of Sam , John Bradley has lost a lot of weight this year, more than he appears to have lost on the show. 3 epis left then a very long wait.

I saw a meme last week, I just kind of blew it off, but after this epi I think they were on to something. The remaining siblings all have something very special and unique about them, except her and she was pouting about it.


I think Littlefinger is on Arya's list and I don't think she's going to let it slide which is why I think Bran gave her the dagger. Bran knows the full story.

I'm not sure if those Dany crazed looks are just them messing with the viewers or are they hinting at something seriously going on with her, Jon seems to be all calm going about business and doing what needs to be done, but she seems to be gobbling up her own legendary status and birthright. That last walk through the fire seemed to made her snap a bit, she's not human anymore. Well until Jaime came at her with that spear and then she seemed to realize her own mortality for a hot moment. Only a hot one though.


Jaime better not drown, and Bron better be okay too, but that was some serious tension there. And Drogon better be on the mend too. I'm getting a kick just watching them fly over the ocean in the distance. That ocean is phenominal, I want to live there.

I hoping Tyrion head isn't on the chopping block anytime soon, because based on the trailer for the next episode Dany isn't listening to him or Varys much.


I'm worried about Arya, I think the faceless man is going to come after her eventually. But I'm also feeling like she's going to meet her first 'dancing' teacher again. She seemed to remember a lot of what he taught her.

Oooo, and I hadn't realized the gold didn't get to it's destination, I'm thinking about the grain. Yeah, Cersei's going to really lose it now. Yikes.

[Edited 8/7/17 10:44am]

Randyll told Jamie the gold reached KL safely.

FunkGetsStronger said:

Randyll told Jamie the gold reached KL safely.

He did, now I remember. Well Cersei will be mad but her head won't explode in that case.

It's funny what it takes to take lil ole human Cersei down. You got to be able to walk through fire and that might not be strong enough in itself.

FunkGetsStronger said:

Randyll told Jamie the gold reached KL safely.

Really? If that's so, then what was in the wagon that was burning on fire near the end of the episode?

Littlefinger spoke to Bran Stark for the first time in Sunday's episode of Game of Thrones, but the conversation didn't exactly go very well. After Littlefinger gifted Bran — or as he now thinks of himself, the Three-Eyed Raven — with the Valyrian steel dagger used by the cutthroat who tried to assassinate him, the young Stark son asked if he knew who the blade had belonged to.

"No. That very question was what started the War of the Five Kings," Littlefinger replied. "In a way, that dagger made you what you are today. Forced from your home, driven out to the wilds beyond the Wall...To go through all of that and make your way home again only to find such chaos in the world, I can only imagine—"

"Chaos is a ladder," Bran interrupted.

The comment seemed to be a reference to a season three discussion between Littlefinger and Varys.

"Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder," Littlefinger told the Spider after he handed Ros over to Joffrey for double-crossing him. "Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, are given a chance to climb. They refuse, they cling to the realm or the gods or love. Illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."

Dany gets to sit in the Iron Throne, but after some years she lost her mind like her father before her. Jon being The Hand of The Queen testifies how Dany got lost through the years, and decides the best for everyone is to get rid of her, even though it breaks his heart. Afterwards he becomes King of The Seven Kingdoms.

214 said:

Dany gets to sit in the Iron Throne, but after some years she lost her mind like her father before her. Jon being The Hand of The Queen testifies how Dany got lost through the years, and decides the best for everyone is to get rid of her, even though it breaks his heart. Afterwards he becomes King of The Seven Kingdoms.

Are you trying to spoil things for us, like when you said the dragon was killed in post 207?

morningsong said:

Littlefinger spoke to Bran Stark for the first time in Sunday's episode of Game of Thrones, but the conversation didn't exactly go very well. After Littlefinger gifted Bran — or as he now thinks of himself, the Three-Eyed Raven — with the Valyrian steel dagger used by the cutthroat who tried to assassinate him, the young Stark son asked if he knew who the blade had belonged to.

"No. That very question was what started the War of the Five Kings," Littlefinger replied. "In a way, that dagger made you what you are today. Forced from your home, driven out to the wilds beyond the Wall...To go through all of that and make your way home again only to find such chaos in the world, I can only imagine—"

"Chaos is a ladder," Bran interrupted.

The comment seemed to be a reference to a season three discussion between Littlefinger and Varys.

"Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder," Littlefinger told the Spider after he handed Ros over to Joffrey for double-crossing him. "Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, are given a chance to climb. They refuse, they cling to the realm or the gods or love. Illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."

And you could tell by the look on Littlefinger's face that Bran freaked him out! Loved it!

FunkGetsStronger said:

Did you all notice the parallel in episode 3?

"Rhaegar never liked killing"

[Edited 8/6/17 19:57pm]

She's so light and friendly here and she'd already been through most of her crap. A vast difference in her behavior now.

PennyPurple said:

214 said:

Dany gets to sit in the Iron Throne, but after some years she lost her mind like her father before her. Jon being The Hand of The Queen testifies how Dany got lost through the years, and decides the best for everyone is to get rid of her, even though it breaks his heart. Afterwards he becomes King of The Seven Kingdoms.

Are you trying to spoil things for us, like when you said the dragon was killed in post 207?

And did it get kill?

It's just my theory, nothing official.

morningsong said:

PennyPurple said:

But Dany's throne is also Jon's. Same father, different mothers.

I know I can't wait for that one little fact to come out. Will one of the dragons adopt him?

214 is right. Aerys, the Mad King, is Dany's father. Rhaegar, the Crown Prince who was felled by Robert's Hammer, is Jon's father. Meaning . . . Jon has a stronger claim than Dany, being the only surviving son of the next in line.

The pertinent questions are . . . when will Bran tell him? when will Howland co-sign? and how will Dany react?

missfee said:

FunkGetsStronger said:

Randyll told Jamie the gold reached KL safely.

Really? If that's so, then what was in the wagon that was burning on fire near the end of the episode?

I think they were supplies and "foodstuffs," needed to feed the Lannister Army and perhaps survive a siege.

214 said:

214 said: