JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

After reading all these comments about how y'all percieved dick sucking and pussy licking, I've come to this conclusion with some of you:

Y'all weird as fuck.

you wouldn't say that if a lady (while licking her pussy in a missionary position) said to you :

"hahaha! you squint when you look at my clit!"

I wouldn't squint. That may have to do with personal reasons y'all have.

Dave1992 said:

wavesofbliss said:

I think it's cold and superficial that the joy people get from watching their sexual partner come stems from mere egoism. Plus, it's not just men that like to give pleasure to a woman; there are many women who like the feeling of giving pleasure to a man, regardless of their "ego"...

You're wrong about that "ego thing" you are referring to. Or would you also say parents buy their children toys because they have a problem with their egos? No, it's because it's human to want to make the people you care about happy. It's not an "ego thing", it's an "affection thing".

Well, if you were saying that it is more emotional for some than for other (which you clearly weren't)

yeah thats EXACTLY what i said and meant in my initial response. DERP

concerning egos in parental and all other relationships.... i can only suggest that you talk with wiser people or read basic psysch books. and yes i totally agree and understand what youre saying about the happiness of people you love- but that in no way negates the ego issues otherwise we'd all have conflict-free,happy relationships w/ everyone in our lives and that don't happen does it.

why are you makingit aq big deal? if she doesnt want you to go down on her then don't. THE END it never had to big deal. you asked her why, she anwserd you. you appear to not like the anwser you got.

Serious said:

JoeTyler said:

I hate it

Are you sure you are having sex with people who you consider hot and who you feel attracted too ?
Of course it can also be very hot to have "not personal sex" (even though for me only with somebody I love), but all the time?

when I'm having sex with somebody, and that somebody just keeps looking at "me" I assume something's "wrong"; perhaps it's paranoia, yes...

I think to myself "I'm doing it "right"" when the sex partner just keeps screaming and closing the eyes due to the "extreme" pleasure, etc; but those wordless/long looks into the eyes are just CREEPY/WORRYING...

JoeTyler said:

Serious said:

Are you sure you are having sex with people who you consider hot and who you feel attracted too ?
Of course it can also be very hot to have "not personal sex" (even though for me only with somebody I love), but all the time?

when I'm having sex with somebody, and that somebody just keeps looking at "me" I assume something's "wrong"; perhaps it's paranoia, yes...

I think to myself "I'm doing it "right"" when the sex partner just keeps screaming and closing the eyes due to the "extreme" pleasure, etc; but those wordless/long looks into the eyes are just CREEPY/WORRYING...

Who said that there is no screaming, moaning and sexy talk involved and it is just about looking you in the eyes. Ain't nothing worse for me than silent sex . And I guess that is one of the reasons why I love giving blowjobs so much because it is easier for me to focus on his lust and reactions than with everything else we might do.

Serious said:

JoeTyler said:

when I'm having sex with somebody, and that somebody just keeps looking at "me" I assume something's "wrong"; perhaps it's paranoia, yes...

I think to myself "I'm doing it "right"" when the sex partner just keeps screaming and closing the eyes due to the "extreme" pleasure, etc; but those wordless/long looks into the eyes are just CREEPY/WORRYING...

Who said that there is no screaming, moaning and sexy talk involved and it is just about looking you in the eyes. Ain't nothing worse for me than silent sex . And I guess that is one of the reasons why I love giving blowjobs so much because it is easier for me to focus on his lust and reactions than with everything else we might do.

oh, ok then

Dave1992 said:

SoLiDiFy said:

More than likely hasn't had it done right(aka a bad experience)

She also said that many guys have proudly said "they just haven't done it right, lemme try and you'll see!" and that it was just as bad as every time.

But the chance is still there that she was unfortunate enough to have men who didn't know what to do/how to react to certain "signs" only. We'll see.

You willing to take that chance & and be on the list of guys who "haven't done it right"?

paintedlady said:

I learned a few things regarding logistics...

1. Most people with fake teeth generally do not like to kiss or engage in oral sex. I know this because ALL of my girlfriends with fake teeth that are removeable will not kiss their partners. Crazy.

dang!!! all of em'??

Dave1992 said:

paintedlady said:

I learned a few things regarding logistics...

1. Most people with fake teeth generally do not like to kiss or engage in oral sex. I know this because ALL of my girlfriends with fake teeth that are removeable will not kiss their partners. Crazy.

2. A frustrated person will just pound the hell outta you in because they are using sex as a release of their own tension.... your orgasm be damned.

3. Different twats got different spots that need attention. Vulvas vary in shape and so must the nerve endings have so you men have added work of finding all her erogenous zones and all women are different.

Some women like how it feels when they are hairy, others like sex better when they are bald.

Some women like doggy style, other women hate it.

Some women love anal... some you better not even try it.

So women like to be stirred and stroked slowly, some prefer a good hard pounding.

Some like big dicks, others run from big dicks.

This you must remember when dealing with women, WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT. Women are really "individual creatures" so no one "recipe" for sex is universal. Especially since women tend to change their likes/tastes with each different partner.

She may like oral sex with one guy and not the other....

so if she doesn't like cunnilingus with you, maybe its "you" and not "her". Sowwy.

Is this for real or are you imago in disguise?

No disrespect here, but it really looks like you haven't read one single word from my original post describing my situation.

1. This has nothing to do with fake teeth. Her teeth are real and so is her pussy. My teeth are real too.

2. ...

3. Agreed (and I think we all agreed on that even before you posted it!).

The bold part is full of unnecessary weirdness and lecturing, especially if you've actually read my original post (where I clearly stated how I believed in the uniqueness of women; where I clearly stated that she actually does not like to have passive oral sex with anyone; where I clearly stated that I haven't even touched her yet.

Better learn to read! Sowwy...

I was generalizing as far as logistics are concerned during sex... not specifying your unique situation. Again..I was speaking in general to illustrate why people tend to not like oral sex/kissing/yadda yadda.

Some of us do not consider oral sex to be "passive"... I read that and that's besides the point.

BTW I can read so just fine.... your insults really do not help you or your situation. Hey, if it makes you feel better to talk shit then whatever. I don't have these problems.

Oh well, maybe she just doesn't want you sucking on her pussy... just live with that. No biggie.

No need to try to pick the girl apart over it.

HuMpThAnG said:

paintedlady said:

I learned a few things regarding logistics...

1. Most people with fake teeth generally do not like to kiss or engage in oral sex. I know this because ALL of my girlfriends with fake teeth that are removeable will not kiss their partners. Crazy.

dang!!! all of em'??

I am over 40 so are most of my friends.

The women who do have fake teeth/partials do NOT like to kiss let alone engage in oral sex of any kind (this is not an issue for my frineds who have their teeth intact). I think it may really be an age gap sorta thing due to their own Puritanical upbringing...

who knows really? they just do not do that stuff.

My friends that do engage in oral sex like it VERY much, and so do I.

I can not imagine not kissing!

So oral health does play a part in wanting to engage in oral exchanges with another person.

JoeTyler said:

when I'm having sex with somebody, and that somebody just keeps looking at "me" I assume something's "wrong"; perhaps it's paranoia, yes...

I think to myself "I'm doing it "right"" when the sex partner just keeps screaming and closing the eyes due to the "extreme" pleasure, etc; but those wordless/long looks into the eyes are just CREEPY/WORRYING...

I am realizing I am just like you. I never really thought about it before, but yeah... someone staring at me while I give them head would creep me the fuck out or make me worry.

Glancing is OK... but staring at me the entire time?

paintedlady said:

JoeTyler said:

when I'm having sex with somebody, and that somebody just keeps looking at "me" I assume something's "wrong"; perhaps it's paranoia, yes...

I think to myself "I'm doing it "right"" when the sex partner just keeps screaming and closing the eyes due to the "extreme" pleasure, etc; but those wordless/long looks into the eyes are just CREEPY/WORRYING...

I am realizing I am just like you. I never really thought about it before, but yeah... someone staring at me while I give them head would creep me the fuck out or make me worry.

Glancing is OK... but staring at me the entire time?

Reminds me of Bernie Mac's stand-up discussing this very topic (I think from Kings of Comedy?),

"what the f*** you lookin' at me for ???"

Ottensen said:

paintedlady said:

I am realizing I am just like you. I never really thought about it before, but yeah... someone staring at me while I give them head would creep me the fuck out or make me worry.

Glancing is OK... but staring at me the entire time?

Reminds me of Bernie Mac's stand-up discussing this very topic (I think from Kings of Comedy?),

"what the f*** you lookin' at me for ???"

Bernie was always on point with his skits. I loved his perenting skits they always had me in tears from laughing so hard!

RIP Bernie, you are missed.

Did you ask her if somebody had ever told her she was riding the stink train? Seriously, I've known more than one woman who was VERY self-conscious about that because someone had told them they smelled at one time or another. Maybe she does smell.

paintedlady said:

HuMpThAnG said:

dang!!! all of em'??

I am over 40 so are most of my friends.

The women who do have fake teeth/partials do NOT like to kiss let alone engage in oral sex of any kind (this is not an issue for my frineds who have their teeth intact). I think it may really be an age gap sorta thing due to their own Puritanical upbringing...

who knows really? they just do not do that stuff.

My friends that do engage in oral sex like it VERY much, and so do I.

I can not imagine not kissing!

So oral health does play a part in wanting to engage in oral exchanges with another person.

HuMpThAnG said:

paintedlady said:

I am over 40 so are most of my friends.

The women who do have fake teeth/partials do NOT like to kiss let alone engage in oral sex of any kind (this is not an issue for my frineds who have their teeth intact). I think it may really be an age gap sorta thing due to their own Puritanical upbringing...

who knows really? they just do not do that stuff.

My friends that do engage in oral sex like it VERY much, and so do I.

I can not imagine not kissing!

So oral health does play a part in wanting to engage in oral exchanges with another person.

Exactly...

Maybe some stud squirted his sperm into her pussy before you wanted to lick her and she felt a bit uncomfortable because you might have noticed it and she was too embarrassed to tell you about it or simply didn´t feel like telling you?

It´s not necessarily your fault and maybe she doesn´t have a problem with getting her pussy licked in a serious relationship but you said:" She's extremely sexual, gets horny VERY quickly and once she is horny it's VERY difficult to make her stop (she'd even do it in a restaurant). There's certainly no sexual energy missing."

With her being "so sexual" I´d never rule out the possibility that she´s been giving it to all them graffiti dudes just like Rose, if you catch my drift.

So maybe having some remaining cum in her pussy is what makes her feel a bit uncomfortable when you want to go downtown?

Then again, you said you fingerfucked her....so you would have noticed if she had a load in her but then again, things can be a bit tricky when the juices of passion blend inside. She was probably too worried about you noticing that she´d sex with someone else before.

If I were you, I´d straight up ask her whether THAT is the real problem.

Then again, maybe she just doesn´t like cunnilingus.

Oral sex is a bit overrated anyway.

JoeTyler said:

Serious said:

Are you sure you are having sex with people who you consider hot and who you feel attracted too ?
Of course it can also be very hot to have "not personal sex" (even though for me only with somebody I love), but all the time?

when I'm having sex with somebody, and that somebody just keeps looking at "me" I assume something's "wrong"; perhaps it's paranoia, yes...

I think to myself "I'm doing it "right"" when the sex partner just keeps screaming and closing the eyes due to the "extreme" pleasure, etc; but those wordless/long looks into the eyes are just CREEPY/WORRYING...

That sounds as if you rely your judgement from what you've seen in porn movies.

Girls and boys copy behavior if they think 'that's the way I should behave'. So, girls will give you the whole show with screams, moans and other Hollywood worthy moves.

If you interpret that as prove that you are pleasing her, you might want to watch this scene again:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...FpnPZpFTEk

I was like that when I was younger. Or when I'm wasn't really into it and I want the guy just to come, so at least I got over with it fast so I could leave.

Now I'm more in touch with my body. So, I sometimes can be wild, if that suits my mood. Or can be calm and wordless, because I'm enjoying myself, the moment, the atmosphere etc.

I've been very quite whilst having a great time and have been screaming and moaning while being very bored.

So, you might want to reconsider your conclusions about different behaviours.........

[How on earth do I embed youtube clips nowadays? edit]

[Edited 7/7/12 15:15pm]

KoolEaze said:

Maybe some stud squirted his sperm into her pussy before you wanted to lick her and she felt a bit uncomfortable because you might have noticed it and she was too embarrassed to tell you about it or simply didn´t feel like telling you?

It´s not necessarily your fault and maybe she doesn´t have a problem with getting her pussy licked in a serious relationship but you said:" She's extremely sexual, gets horny VERY quickly and once she is horny it's VERY difficult to make her stop (she'd even do it in a restaurant). There's certainly no sexual energy missing."

With her being "so sexual" I´d never rule out the possibility that she´s been giving it to all them graffiti dudes just like Rose, if you catch my drift.

So maybe having some remaining cum in her pussy is what makes her feel a bit uncomfortable when you want to go downtown?

Then again, you said you fingerfucked her....so you would have noticed if she had a load in her but then again, things can be a bit tricky when the juices of passion blend inside. She was probably too worried about you noticing that she´d sex with someone else before.

If I were you, I´d straight up ask her whether THAT is the real problem.

Then again, maybe she just doesn´t like cunnilingus.

Oral sex is a bit overrated anyway.

Hmm that thought would have never crossed my mind .

I know that you did not mean to generalize it and that it was not your intention to say that women who are like that fuck around, but I just wanted to point out that someone being a sexual person does not mean at all that that person is having sex with many partners. I have a lot of sexual energy, but I am totally not interested in sleeping around. I just cannot get enough of the partner I am with when I am in a relationship. I know that many people have that impression of somebody who loves sex or dresses sexy and that can be frustrating at times . But I guess that the woman Dave is talking about probably is interested in having fun with many men, so you could be right with what you are saying....

dJJ said:

JoeTyler said:

when I'm having sex with somebody, and that somebody just keeps looking at "me" I assume something's "wrong"; perhaps it's paranoia, yes...

I think to myself "I'm doing it "right"" when the sex partner just keeps screaming and closing the eyes due to the "extreme" pleasure, etc; but those wordless/long looks into the eyes are just CREEPY/WORRYING...

That sounds as if you rely your judgement from what you've seen in porn movies.

Girls and boys copy behavior if they think 'that's the way I should behave'. So, girls will give you the whole show with screams, moans and other Hollywood worthy moves.

If you interpret that as prove that you are pleasing her, you might want to watch this scene again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE

I was like that when I was younger. Or when I'm wasn't really into it and I want the guy just to come, so at least I got over with it fast so I could leave.

Now I'm more in touch with my body. So, I sometimes can be wild, if that suits my mood. Or can be calm and wordless, because I'm enjoying myself, the moment, the atmosphere etc.

I've been very quite whilst having a great time and have been screaming and moaning while being very bored.

So, you might want to reconsider your conclusions about different behaviours.........

Could be and yes that happens, but in most cases I don't think that women just fake their lust that often when they are loud and show how much they enjoy themselves.

[Edited 7/7/12 15:15pm]

Wait...

Did I just read "false teeth"?

Maybe her pussy smells? Maybe they figured it's best if a man don't go down because they may come up, like Martin Lawrence said, with a yeast infection.

That's why folks gotta talk to each other before sucking dick or pussy. Ladies, check the dick, men, check the clit.

Serious said:

dJJ said:

That sounds as if you rely your judgement from what you've seen in porn movies.

Girls and boys copy behavior if they think 'that's the way I should behave'. So, girls will give you the whole show with screams, moans and other Hollywood worthy moves.

If you interpret that as prove that you are pleasing her, you might want to watch this scene again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE

I was like that when I was younger. Or when I'm wasn't really into it and I want the guy just to come, so at least I got over with it fast so I could leave.

Now I'm more in touch with my body. So, I sometimes can be wild, if that suits my mood. Or can be calm and wordless, because I'm enjoying myself, the moment, the atmosphere etc.

I've been very quite whilst having a great time and have been screaming and moaning while being very bored.

So, you might want to reconsider your conclusions about different behaviours.........

Could be and yes that happens, but in most cases I don't think that women just fake their lust that often when they are loud and show how much they enjoy themselves.

[Edited 7/7/12 15:15pm]

And when a girl is quiet that doesn't necessarily mean she is not enjoying herself.

I actually think porn doesn't help in sex. You're so focused on what you see someone do that if they don't do it like they do in that porno, they ain't shit.

dJJ said:

Serious said:

Could be and yes that happens, but in most cases I don't think that women just fake their lust that often when they are loud and show how much they enjoy themselves.

[Edited 7/7/12 15:15pm]

And when a girl is quiet that doesn't necessarily mean she is not enjoying herself.

very true

airbody's different

dJJ said:

Serious said:

Could be and yes that happens, but in most cases I don't think that women just fake their lust that often when they are loud and show how much they enjoy themselves.

[Edited 7/7/12 15:15pm]

And when a girl is quiet that doesn't necessarily mean she is not enjoying herself.

I agree

Serious said:

KoolEaze said:

Maybe some stud squirted his sperm into her pussy before you wanted to lick her and she felt a bit uncomfortable because you might have noticed it and she was too embarrassed to tell you about it or simply didn´t feel like telling you?

It´s not necessarily your fault and maybe she doesn´t have a problem with getting her pussy licked in a serious relationship but you said:" She's extremely sexual, gets horny VERY quickly and once she is horny it's VERY difficult to make her stop (she'd even do it in a restaurant). There's certainly no sexual energy missing."

With her being "so sexual" I´d never rule out the possibility that she´s been giving it to all them graffiti dudes just like Rose, if you catch my drift.

So maybe having some remaining cum in her pussy is what makes her feel a bit uncomfortable when you want to go downtown?

Then again, you said you fingerfucked her....so you would have noticed if she had a load in her but then again, things can be a bit tricky when the juices of passion blend inside. She was probably too worried about you noticing that she´d sex with someone else before.

If I were you, I´d straight up ask her whether THAT is the real problem.

Then again, maybe she just doesn´t like cunnilingus.

Oral sex is a bit overrated anyway.

Hmm that thought would have never crossed my mind .

I know that you did not mean to generalize it and that it was not your intention to say that women who are like that fuck around, but I just wanted to point out that someone being a sexual person does not mean at all that that person is having sex with many partners. I have a lot of sexual energy, but I am totally not interested in sleeping around. I just cannot get enough of the partner I am with when I am in a relationship. I know that many people have that impression of somebody who loves sex or dresses sexy and that can be frustrating at times . But I guess that the woman Dave is talking about probably is interested in having fun with many men, so you could be right with what you are saying....

I´m not judging anybody, least of all women who fuck a lot with many different partners. I don´t care whether they "sleep" with one man or a dozen, it´s none of my business, and if they have a lot of sexual energy and fuck with many men, then so be it. And if they focus that energy on ONE partner only, it´s all good too.

With this humid summer heat, I shouldn´t be on the org anyway. But I was watching the Klitchko fight.

Now I have to go out and get my freak on. Because you know, it´s summertime.

Folks are in HEAT.

This weather makes me horny.

Sweet, sweet sticky thing.

Timmy84 said:

I actually think porn doesn't help in sex. You're so focused on what you see someone do that if they don't do it like they do in that porno, they ain't shit.

Agreed. Kids of very young ages have acces to porn by internet. They just look up daddy's cookies .

I worry children/young teens only can get educated about their bodies, their sensations and the experience of sex by porn movies.

The porn industry is setting the standard for how to behave when having sex. That idea worries me. A lot.

It's as if the Paris-Hilton-looking-for-bff-show is the general assumed standard for friendships.

KoolEaze said:

Serious said:

Hmm that thought would have never crossed my mind .

I know that you did not mean to generalize it and that it was not your intention to say that women who are like that fuck around, but I just wanted to point out that someone being a sexual person does not mean at all that that person is having sex with many partners. I have a lot of sexual energy, but I am totally not interested in sleeping around. I just cannot get enough of the partner I am with when I am in a relationship. I know that many people have that impression of somebody who loves sex or dresses sexy and that can be frustrating at times . But I guess that the woman Dave is talking about probably is interested in having fun with many men, so you could be right with what you are saying....

I´m not judging anybody, least of all women who fuck a lot with many different partners. I don´t care whether they "sleep" with one man or a dozen, it´s none of my business, and if they have a lot of sexual energy and fuck with many men, then so be it. And if they focus that energy on ONE partner only, it´s all good too.

With this humid summer heat, I shouldn´t be on the org anyway. But I was watching the Klitchko fight.

Now I have to go out and get my freak on. Because you know, it´s summertime.

Folks are in HEAT.

This weather makes me horny.

Sweet, sweet sticky thing.

Cool, I can dig that. I just don't like it when some people make false assumptions and that happens quite often. Some people assume that you necessarily sleep around when you act like this or dress like that and that is just not true and annoying.

dJJ said:

JoeTyler said:

when I'm having sex with somebody, and that somebody just keeps looking at "me" I assume something's "wrong"; perhaps it's paranoia, yes...

I think to myself "I'm doing it "right"" when the sex partner just keeps screaming and closing the eyes due to the "extreme" pleasure, etc; but those wordless/long looks into the eyes are just CREEPY/WORRYING...

That sounds as if you rely your judgement from what you've seen in porn movies.

Girls and boys copy behavior if they think 'that's the way I should behave'. So, girls will give you the whole show with screams, moans and other Hollywood worthy moves.

If you interpret that as prove that you are pleasing her, you might want to watch this scene again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE

I was like that when I was younger. Or when I'm wasn't really into it and I want the guy just to come, so at least I got over with it fast so I could leave.

Now I'm more in touch with my body. So, I sometimes can be wild, if that suits my mood. Or can be calm and wordless, because I'm enjoying myself, the moment, the atmosphere etc.

I've been very quite whilst having a great time and have been screaming and moaning while being very bored.

So, you might want to reconsider your conclusions about different behaviours.........

if you were like that when you were younger, then I'm sorry that you had to fake it to get through it as soon as possible...perhaps having sex that night with that somebody was a bad/rushed idea to begin with...and it's kinda sad that you think girls (and boys) copy the cliches they see in a porn movie, because I seriously think porn copied REAL life sex to begin with, not the other way around: people already screamed and said/did nasty things and similar stuff during sex since the caveman days...

my first post was about people staring at each other WITHOUT sayin' a word during the coitus/oral sex; as I've said before, that just creeps the fuck out of me to the point I lost all the excitement...

by screaming I didn't mean FAKE "wild" screams to encourage the male; more like what Serious said: screaming, moaning and sexy talk...

if I was making love and the sex partner was just there, semi-still, glancing at me and just being passive, I would automatically think that something's wrong...call me paranoid

cold/wordless sex is something that doesn't exist in my universe, or sex without an oral foreplay (what this thread is about, anyway)

dJJ said:

Serious said:

Could be and yes that happens, but in most cases I don't think that women just fake their lust that often when they are loud and show how much they enjoy themselves.

[Edited 7/7/12 15:15pm]

And when a girl is quiet that doesn't necessarily mean she is not enjoying herself.

fair enough

but that doesn't mean it has to be sexy or entertaining

c'mon, not even some warm, heartfelt, uncontrollable moaning?

wtf

KoolEaze said:

Because you know, it´s summertime.

Folks are in HEAT.

This weather makes me horny.

Sweet, sweet sticky thing.

preach it man, preach it

July is, indeed, the month of love (Julius Caesar, horniest Roman general of all time, God bless him)